[Q] What to expect after warranty repair - T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide

Phone info: rooted, stock, s-off, CWM 5.0.2.7, BusyBox 1.17.1, ES File Explorer
In a nutshell, my phone's display died after a bit of condensation appeared under the glass. I have no idea how the moisture happened, as I've been babying this phone since my 1/7 purchase, and I haven't dunked the phone in water or exposed it to steam. Had it tucked in an inside coat pocket while going for a walk, discovered condensation spots later that evening (and no, I don't sweat like a horse, either). Screen began flickering over next four days, requiring brightness to be turned up to max, but otherwise operated normally--until day five, when the display went out completely. Liquid indicator under the battery is pure white, btw.
So, after discussion with HTC Warranty and Repair, my phone will be shipped off to be fixed, hopefully, under warranty, and I won't get dinged for out-of-warranty repair since this is a moisture issue (albeit one I'm baffled as to the cause).
What I'd like to know is what to expect upon return of my repaired phone. I know the HTC tech's will likely be wiping all data, and this means I'll have to reroot, correct? I have my most recent Nandroid backup on both my PC and my SD card, so I can restore to that, but I wasn't clear about the rerooting end of things.
Any experiences from others who have gone through the warranty repair process would be appreciated.
Many Thanks --
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King Cheetah

Well I sent my 3G Slide in to get the camera lens cover and keyboard fixed. I had the old hboot and flashed back to stock with s=on. They fixed the 2 issues and updated my phone to the Froyo OTA with the new hboot.
It isn't unrealistic to think the same would happen. So the Fabulous work the guys in the dev forum will be more appreciated once the hboot issue is solved.
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Actually, I just got back my phone from repair. hboot was 1.44.007 the one that is hackable.
It's essentially a roll of dice right now, because the OTA isn't in full effect yet. Maybe you can make a special request that they don't restore your phone (although that's usually the first thing they do) or tell them that you don't want the latest OTA

That pretty much answers my question--I'll have to go through the process once more for root once I get it back.
As far as I've been able to glean from the HTC and T-Mobile forums, the OTA is still on hold due to error troubleshooting, so I doubt that will be applied until all the bugs have been squashed. In fact, there's no word that the update will be ready this month, so I'm fairly confident the hboot will still be 1.44.007.
Thanks for the replies --
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King Cheetah

Yea - I sent one in to be serviced and got it back as it went out (fixed though) and still had s-off 1.44.0007 hboot.
I restored everything else to stock retail launch before sending it in.
They told me on the phone before I shipped it that if they chose not to repair i'd get charged. If there was evidence of tampering it was their option to not do anything to it.
I was also told that it would be flashed to their current software as the last thing before it left the factory.
I imagine it's up to the tech to decide if they want to work on it if it comes in with s-off - but now we have a guide for how to get s-on so this should no longer be a concern - it's in dev here.
Also, my theory was that the update being on hold was why I got it back with the software I sent it out on - and seems to be what everyone else thinks too.

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Phone Dead?

So I just got this Captivate and it's not rooted or anything. I used the Sideloading Wonder just once for an app. But then I tried to do a software update and the phone went black. After about 30 minutes it was really hot and I could not turn it back on. Any suggestions as to what the problem may be?
Installing one app with sideload wonder mechine, should not have casued any issues.
If your phone "Bricked" while downloading and installing the update, I recommend taking it into an AT&T warranty center and have them replace it. There are ways in most cases to unbrick the phone (I think), but that requires flashing a ROM which will void the warranty and possibility make it so you cannot replace the phone under warranty.
When you go into the warranty store that you received a message to update the phone and it froze during the update and will not wake back up. They will either fix it on the spot, which I doubt, or excahnge it for a referb that will still be under warranty for the rest of your 1 year warranty period.
Is there any reason the phone isnt coming back on at all. I mean do you think maybe the battery could just be shot and all i need is a new battery?
If its a new phone and not refurbished, I highly doubt its just the battery.
On another android forum there was a topic about over clocking, it mentioned the battery will begin to deteriorate when it hits temperatures around 140F, it never said it would completely fail. (correct me if I'm wrong)
But, it may be possible, but I don't think it would be the complete reason.
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[Q] DEAD Sensation...

I've had my Sensation for a week or so now... rebooted it earlier on, and now it's totally dead. Won't power up, won't charge, or anything.
Any recommendations of anything to try that I might not have tried? I've got a good background in this kind of technology, so I've tried the usual stuff - battery removal, leaving plugged in, holding buttons for longer etc...
Is there a trick that anyone's found?
If not, should I go back to '3' to replace it... or should I go to HTC and see if they'll replace with a nice S-OFF unit??
Thoughts please?
volume down and power button together and see if you can get recovery screen up and do a factory reset
Hi Gavin
Sadly it needs something more than that - that was the first thing I tried, thinking it might be software related.
Even tried leaving the battery out overnight before trying again, that didn't work.
What I have found, now, is that if I plug in the charger FIRST, and THEN connect the battery, I get an orange LED. I thought this might mean it is charging, but no, because when I unplug the charger again, the orange LED stays lit, and remains so until the battery is removed again.
I don't recommend trying this yourself, because it does say somewhere in the literature, NOT to apply power, without the battery being in place. I just figured, it's already dead, so it might do something different!
What I'd like to know / find out, is if there's a real "hardware" reset switch/button... my Toshiba TG01 had some hidden PCB pads which would allow different booting modes, etc... somethign like that I think it needs. I'm going to have to get a new one ANYWAY, but it'd be good to know what happened to this one, first!!
Sounds like a hardware issue to me (maybe motherboard failed, that was an issue with all previous HTC devices)
Put it on charge without the battery. Now with a paperclip hit the +- pins for a second. After that unplug it and put battery in and normally charge it. Friend of mine did this with his Sonyericsson and it worked. Otherwise send it back to htc.
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Ok, I've spoken to HTC, and as it's within the first 28 days, the onus is on 3UK (Hutchinson3G) to replace the handset.
Spent over an hour in store with them this morning, trying various things, and they decided that they would replace the handset. Except they then realised that they won't replace handsets which were from 3 'direct'.
So, I figured, can't hurt to try the 'shorting' method - I would again, out of a background in electronics, say DO NOT TRY THIS METHOD, UNLESS IT'S A LAST RESORT! IT COULD SERIOUSLY DAMAGE THINGS.
Now, instead of a constant orange light, I've got a flashing orange light.
Still no actual operational power though.
Thinking about it
This reminds me of a laptop I used to have - it had a "Quick Boot" feature which relied on stuff in the boot-area of the hard drive. Back then, I had a 'less-than-legitimate' copy of Windows 7, which used a boot-modifier to work as "genuine".
That laptop would, on occasion, refuse to power up for hours, and sometimes days at a time - and I traced that down to it being an issue relating to the loader software in the boot area of the HDD.
I wonder if this is a similar issue on the Sensation - an exception in the "quick boot" that makes it think there's still quick-boot data, even though there isn't, because the battery's been out. It's all hypothetical, but interesting to know how these things tick.
And who knows, maybe 3UK will send me an S-OFF unit in replacement.
i honestly dont know why you would try shorting your phone thats still under warranty. Are you trying not only to fix your phone, but also void your still current warranty?
take it back. get it replaced, and stop trying mcgyver tricks. Its just not needed.
Leigh,
Thanks for your concern for my handset. Personally I'd say having a brand-new, week-old handset to fail completely and spectacularly is 'not needed', either (!) But, really, any of the above actions, which were given to me in good faith, were up to me to use, or not use. I made a calculated decision based on i) the current level of operability of the handset ii) the likelihood of any action taken voiding the warranty iii) the likelihood of my receiving a new handset under said warranty. I hoped I made it clear enough that anyone who would even THINK to consider performing the above procedure would also make such a calculated decision.
I don't know who McGyver is, but you'll notice that I did put a warning in my post stating that others shouldn't try it... chances are it would cause damage to the phone's power management, at the very least, it's cause wear on the voltage regulation side.
That said, there are times when simply shorting devices *can* work as said devices can hold small amounts of charge which can be dissipated with a short, a reverse polarity or otherwise. The cavaets being - a) it's already totally and completely dead, short of it going in flames, it cannot be made worse; b) the shorting (or other action) is momentary - the smallest fraction of a second.
Yes, it's under warranty. Yes, they're going to replace it. If we wanted to go into the whole matter of ethics, *if* I were the manufacturer, and I had proof that someone had done the above steps to their handset, NO, I would not honour the warranty. But I'm not, they don't, the handset already more-than-likely has a mainboard failure, so I was prepared to take the risk.
Eventually, the Service Manual for the device will be released, and this will help with matters of apparent hardware failure. In the meantime, it's a learning curve for everyone, and if I could help that curve at all with my dead handset, in the knowledge that a new one is coming, that's what I hoped to do.
Again, for all clarity, safety, etc. I am not advocating, or recommending the actions detailed above, or ANY other action other than in accordance with the user manual which was provided to you with your device. Do ANY of the above STRICTLY at your own risk, and on your head be it.
If anyone else has any ideas - "McGyver" or otherwise (who is he?!) - that won't obviously cause warranty-replacement issues, I would be happy to try them in the hope of furthering the knowledge of this new device. I'm grateful for any help, and for any chance to increase the small amount of knowledge we already have on this device.
McGyver is a character in an old American TV show from the 80's.He always got into impossible situations and always had some tricks up his sleeve like making a laser out of a package of gum,a paperclip,and a match.
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maybe it's the battery
I hat the same problem on my TG01, at the end it came out the Li-ion was all draind and my TG01 would not Charge it anymore.
not eaven in an external Charger
New battery was the only solution.
Maybe it's the same problem you have.
Hi GhostRider
I remember the days of the TG01 - turned out a decent handset, in the end.
I'd hope it's not a faulty battery on a week-old handset - although I don't have another battery to test it with, so I suppose it's possible that it was manufactured as faulty.
My new handset replacement arrives on Tuesday though... but I'll keep checking here to see if anyone wants me to do anything with this one in the mean time.
Had my first Sensation for a week and then it beeped and died just like yours. All I did was swap the battery and plug in the charger. Still nothing. Called TMO and got a replacement.
I think even if you managed to do CPR and get it back up the fact it died in the first place indicates a serious problem. Personally I'd rather have one that's reliable.
I would be excited if my sensation bricked, I've been trying to brick it for a few days. sadly no luck. If it is bricked tmobile atleast will replace it with another, that's atleast another chance at getting s-off.
Mine did what yours did the other day. I thought it was ****ed. I took battery out for 5 and after that put it in and charged for ten minutes. Sadly, it worked fine after that.
samnada said:
Still nothing. Called TMO and got a replacement.
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s-off i hope?
My replacement is due around 1330h (UK time) today.
I'll let you know the status of the new phone when it comes.
I'd bet a beer it's *STILL* S-ON though...
Here's hoping!!
Ok, my new Sensation has arrived.
PYRAMID PVT SHIP S-ON RL
HBOOT-1.17-0011
eMMC-boot
Jun 2 2011,22:31.39
Oh well. At least there's perma-temp-root for now
I've followed this course to its natural end, however, I appear not to be the only one with the 'dying sensation' problem... so might be good to keep this thread alive?
Cheers all

[Q] Screen not responsive

Hey guys, long time lurker.
Recently, the right 8th of my screen has become non-responsive. I have flashed several builds since then to confirm that this happens regardless of what ROM im running. I believe this is a hardware issue.
Does anyone know if there is a screen calibration/screen debug app to confirm this?
Or should i take my phone into verizon. if so, i assume i shoudl through the stock software on the phone? I have never had any hardware fail on verizon (d1, dx, tbolt user), how anal are they about replacing malfunctioning hardware. i do not have insurance (since i am very careful with my cell phones and have never broekn one).
Any ideas??
Should be covered under manufacturer's warranty.
Bamf sense 3.0 RC4 with MR2 radio
recap
took my phone into verizon (after flashing back to stock) and gave told them that i cleaned the screen, restored back to factory, etc. they looked at the phone for 30 seconds, and then said "ok, we'll send you a new one".
ive read a couple of other posts saying that i should return to stock (including the bootloader). so ill do that before i send it back. either way, thanks for the help

[Q] Flash stock recovery?? warranty return again...not happy!

I previously had never rooted or in any way modded my Sensation. It was running the stock Three firmware with the Three UK splash screen. It developed a serious problem with dust under the screen, which I contacted HTC about and they sent a courier to pick up the handset and be repaired by their authorised UK repair centre (Regenesis) it came back on Tuesday and I was happy with it (they had replaced the entire digitizer and LCD) and I decided to take the plunge and install a custom ROM. To my surprise the device had come back from Regenesis with S-OFF (it had DEFINITELY been S-ON when sent to them as I had checked to make sure the device, which was second hand, had not been tampered with by the previous owner). ANYWAY, to cut a long story short I ended up Nandroid backing up the Three ROM and going with an XE ROM, then literally the NEXT DAY discovered new dust under the screen. It is nowhere near as bad as it was before, but I suspect it will only get worse. Being as the device came from the repair centre S-Off my most comfortable method of returning the item to stock would be to restore the Nandroid backup and remove clockwork mod and replace with stock. Is this possible??
I look forward to ringing HTC tomorrow and telling them what a piece of poorly-made junk this device is.

Can't turn on or charge...worried

Hi
I think I've killed my phone. I have voided my warranty. Please help/comfort me!
The story so far...flashed stock ROM with ARHD, no problems everything fine. Broke screen in pocket while at work (fuzzy lines across screen), phoned htc to explain problem, they told me to send in for repair but said that the repair would not go ahead if any mods such as custom ROMS had been installed - I told the guy that a custom ROM had been installed (probably my biggest error!). Bought new lcd/digitizer combo from ebay (ukeasybuy), and installed following an online guide (I was very meticulous and followed the guide to the letter with great care). Initially seemed fine but then quickly started doing weird stuff on its own accord, not responding to button/screen touches, would have to press the power button twice to get it to play normal. Yesterday the phone threw a wobbly and crapped out, switched itself off. Tried many times to power on, eventually managed to get into 4ext recovery where I started a restore to earlier nandroid backup, phone switched itself off again after about 20secs through the restore process (battery at this time was at 57%). Now can't seem to power on at all (tried loads of times), no charge light when plugged in, seems bricked.
When installing a custom ROM if you brick your device does it happen instantly or is it something that can develop over time? Only that for a brief period after installation it seemed to be fine, I made sure I had flashed the correct firmware package for the ROM.
I have done some research, but stumped on what to do now...my only thought is that I do have gadget insurance through barclays but wonder if they will just refer me to HTC??
Your thoughts and advice greatly appreciated..
Xenon
Bump
The turning off of the device itself can be a precautionary measure to protect itself. I'm guessing maybe the LCD was installed wrong and is causing a short within the board.
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I followed the iFixit guide to install the new screen/digitizer.
As I mentioned I was very careful to follow it carefully, the only extra thing I did was to add some double sided sticky pads inside to stick it back together again as the thin tape supplied was damaged and discarded when taking the phone apart.
Should I try and take the phone apart again and look for any mainboard damage and/or potential areas where shorts may have occurred?
What do you think about the insurance cover, is it worth a shot? what would be the best way to approach the subject?
Many thanks!
Xenon
Maybe you did install it correctly, but there could also be the possibility that the screen is defective. But i would suggest checking the main board for a short.
Good luck
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I have taken the device apart again, but no signs of any shorts / problems or anything suspicious. I don't want to spend anymore cash on a new screen without knowing its that that is causing the problem.
Perhaps its one for the scrap heap
talk to whoever supplied you with the screen and tell them you think the screen is defective. say you have installed it to the letter and it is giving you issues. any respectable ebay seller should be willing to hear you out at least. hope youve not left feedback already though as they may think your a chancer :/
Unfortunately feedback was left once I first turned on the phone and the screen lit up. I will give it a try but I won't keep my fingers crossed!
What about the gadget insurance that I have, is it worth trying to get the phone repaired or replaced through them, or will they just send me back to HTC because the phone is less than a year old?

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