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Problem with rom manager

I hit the back up rom button in rom manager and it went to the htc screen. Its the screen that you see when you first turn on the phone. Its still on that screen for 10 mins now should I pull the battery or wait another 10 min? I have a thunderbolt btw. any advice greatly appreciated. thx

Did you flash ClockwordMod Recovery through ROM Manager before trying to make a backup? Pull the battery and reboot. If you didn't flash CWM then you need to do that. It's the first option at the top of the menu in ROM Manager.

I just had this happen couple days ago. Seems like Recovery went wonky. Pull battery & when you boot get back into Rom Manager > Menu > Clear Download Cache > Then go into Menu > Setting > Check Erase Recovery ... Hit Flash ClockworkMod Recovery and it will download and reinstall recovery.

I think a battery pull is in order. Did you go to backup and restore > backup? I have never had an issue when it comes to backing up my current rom/setup in cwm so I dont know what the issue could be.

feedhead said:
I just had this happen couple days ago. Seems like Recovery went wonky. Pull battery & when you boot get back into Rom Manager > Menu > Clear Download Cache > Then go into Menu > Setting > Check Erase Recovery ... Hit Flash ClockworkMod Recovery and it will download and reinstall recovery.
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I just did that. Should I hit backup current Rom again? Maybe I should leave it alone. I don't want to damage the phone. I did back up my rom when i first rooted the phone with rom manager but i couldn't find it in the sd card and I couldn't see it under manage and restore backups. this is so discouraging. Oh one thing I should mention. I didn't update to the lastest version of rom manager. Could that be the problem?

newbaysie said:
I just did that. Should I hit backup current Rom again? Maybe I should leave it alone. I don't want to damage the phone. I did back up my rom when i first rooted the phone with rom manager but i couldn't find it in the sd card and I couldn't see it under manage and restore backups. this is so discouraging. Oh one thing I should mention. I didn't update to the lastest version of rom manager. Could that be the problem?
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I would definitely update to the latest version of ROM Manager and flash the latest recovery (should be 3.0.2.5 if it's not already.) There were issues with the previous version of CWR.

Absolutely update to latest version of Rom Manager then certainly try to run a backup.

newbaysie said:
I just did that. Should I hit backup current Rom again? Maybe I should leave it alone. I don't want to damage the phone. I did back up my rom when i first rooted the phone with rom manager but i couldn't find it in the sd card and I couldn't see it under manage and restore backups. this is so discouraging. Oh one thing I should mention. I didn't update to the lastest version of rom manager. Could that be the problem?
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Making a backup isn't going to damage the phone. You should always make a backup before flashing anything (ROMs, themes, kernels, radios). That way you have something stable to revert to incase what you flash ****s up your phone.
Your backups will be on the SD card under clockworkmod/backup.
Update ROM Manager, flash CWM and try making a backup.

newbaysie said:
I just did that. Should I hit backup current Rom again? Maybe I should leave it alone. I don't want to damage the phone. I did back up my rom when i first rooted the phone with rom manager but i couldn't find it in the sd card and I couldn't see it under manage and restore backups. this is so discouraging. Oh one thing I should mention. I didn't update to the lastest version of rom manager. Could that be the problem?
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if you click manage and restore backups and select "restore" it should be there. If not, you can back up your current rom through Recovery, think it says "backup current" or similar.

Another option to try is a full uninstall. Then redownload Rom Manager.

Ok I updated to the latest version and backing up my rom right now. Its seems to be working. Thanks everyone for your help. I'm a noob at this. What is the difference if I back up with the app titanium backup vs rom manager? It seems everybody that rooted their phone have these apps. I always thought they both have similar functions.

I had the same problem. I just turned off fastboot and everything worked fine.
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Use Clockwork... ROM Mangler always causes issue. What's true in life?? Cut out the middle man and go straight to the source. Uninstall Rom Mangler/Download Quickboot/Get your ROMS from here and leave the heavy work to Clockwork. My opinion.
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newbaysie said:
... i couldn't find it in the sd card and I couldn't see it under manage and restore backups.
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Not sure what to say about it not being under "Manage and Restore Backups," but it should be on your SD card under /sdcard/clockworkmod/backup.
newbaysie said:
What is the difference if I back up with the app titanium backup vs rom manager? It seems everybody that rooted their phone have these apps. I always thought they both have similar functions.
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Titanium Backup can back up all of your apps, data, and settings, but not your ROM (operating system), so TB can restore all of that stuff regardless of the ROM you're using (for the most part).
ROM Manager/ClockworkMod backups (aka Nandroid backups) take a full image of your phone (apps, data, settings, ROM, messages, etc) in one simple operation, so that when you restore that backup, your phone will be ABSOLUTELY IDENTICAL to the way it was when you took the backup.
Personally, I do a nandroid backup right before flashing a new ROM, and again after I get all of my settings the way I like them. That way, I have a restore point in case I completely eff up my phone. I do a Titanium Backup of my apps and settings right before switching to a different ROM (anytime that I have to clear the phone's cache for a ROM install), so that once the new ROM is installed, I can get my phone back up and running the way I like it faster. So, yes, they do a lot of the same things, but have very different uses. Hopefully that made sense! It did in my head, but that doesn't always translate well, lol!

TheStick13 said:
Not sure what to say about it not being under "Manage and Restore Backups," but it should be on your SD card under /sdcard/clockworkmod/backup.
Titanium Backup can back up all of your apps, data, and settings, but not your ROM (operating system), so TB can restore all of that stuff regardless of the ROM you're using (for the most part).
ROM Manager/ClockworkMod backups (aka Nandroid backups) take a full image of your phone (apps, data, settings, ROM, messages, etc) in one simple operation, so that when you restore that backup, your phone will be ABSOLUTELY IDENTICAL to the way it was when you took the backup.
Personally, I do a nandroid backup right before flashing a new ROM, and again after I get all of my settings the way I like them. That way, I have a restore point in case I completely eff up my phone. I do a Titanium Backup of my apps and settings right before switching to a different ROM (anytime that I have to clear the phone's cache for a ROM install), so that once the new ROM is installed, I can get my phone back up and running the way I like it faster. So, yes, they do a lot of the same things, but have very different uses. Hopefully that made sense! It did in my head, but that doesn't always translate well, lol!
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This makes alot of sense. Oh the reason the backup file is not on the sdcard was the first backup was never backup. I just assumed it backup when I hit "backup current rom" Thank god I didn't flash my rom. If something went wrong I have nothing to go back to. Thanks for the info it was very helpful.

[Q] First Time Flashing Rom

Ok, I just want to cover all my bases and make sure everything is set for me.
I rooted my ATRIX, installed ROM manager pro and Titanium backup pro, backed up my apps and data with Titanium, and flashed clockworkmod with rom manager.
I have the Alien rom and the alien theme downloaded and put on my sdcard.
From what I understand I just click install rom in rom manager and it should all be good correct?
Thanks for any advice! I just want to make sure I'm doing everything correctly.

Jup thats one way to do it. And it is a good method!
So go ahead and flash it if you already haven't done it

Sounds good to me.

should would fine long as your phone likes cwm, i had a lil issues with it myself but i'm running a new rezound that doesn't have the best support with it yet, i switched to amon ra recovery as it seemed to have a lil more to offer and didn't give me a issue with the scripts some roms use, long as that phone is well supported by cwm you should be fine tho

Or you can just boot intoo clockworkmod recovery and select "install zip from sdcard" and point to the zipfile of the new rom. A wipe is usually necessary and also doable from the recovery.

scarbutt11 said:
Ok, I just want to cover all my bases and make sure everything is set for me.
I rooted my ATRIX, installed ROM manager pro and Titanium backup pro, backed up my apps and data with Titanium, and flashed clockworkmod with rom manager.
I have the Alien rom and the alien theme downloaded and put on my sdcard.
From what I understand I just click install rom in rom manager and it should all be good correct?
Thanks for any advice! I just want to make sure I'm doing everything correctly.
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Well, almost. You also need to unlock the bootloader before you can flash a ROM. You mentioned that you backed up your data using Titanium Backup, which is fine, but you should also create a backup in recovery. That way, if something goes wrong and you end up with a phone that won't get past the boot logo, you can simply boot into recovery and restore your phone to exactly how it was before. Just make sure you have at least 2GB of free space on your sd card so that it can perform a full backup. To perform a backup, turn off your phone, then right as you're turning it on again, hold the volume down button until "fastboot" shows up. Then press the down volume button until you see "Android Recovery." Now press up to enter recovery. From there, navigate to backup. I realize that this isn't necessary, but I soft-bricked my phone the first time I tried to flash a rom, and if I had done a proper backup, it would have saved me a lot of grief.
Hope this helped!

I would also make a Nandroid backup of the current system just in case. Nandroid backups never failed on me when needed. I do believe it is a good "go to" option if a restore backup is needed.
Just my two cents

[Q] How to use g2xscrubber?

How to flash the g2x scrubber? I dont think I have NV flashed CWM. Should I do that 1st before g2xscrubber? I do have CWM as an app, can I flash from this? Should I expect sub-menus, in the process?
Does this scrubbing preserve my phone contacts and apps?
Can someone walk me thru this please

G2XScrubber!
You should definitely flash CWM via NVFlash first. Once that's all said and done, make a NANDROID Backup, then flash G2XScrubber. After you flash that you HAVE to flash a Rom afterwards, otherwise your phone won't boot.

1.CWM is not an app.
2.Yes you should NVflash CWM.
3.G2x Scrubber wipes everything.
4.Contacts are stored either on sim card or Google Account or both.
5.All the answers you need are easy to find if you search.
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Jonphinguyen7 said:
You should definitely flash CWM via NVFlash first. Once that's all said and done, make a NANDROID Backup, then flash G2XScrubber. After you flash that you HAVE to flash a Rom afterwards, otherwise your phone won't boot.
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Make sure you use nvflash to install cwm or you may not be able to enter recovery after you do a wipe.
To use g2x scrubber you select "install zip from SD card" and select the g2x scrubber and wham bam thank you ma'am clean install.
Pin it to Win it.

Thanks a lot for the quick reply.
I got a g2x thru craigslist. It had Phoenix blood v 1.1 on it.
Is there a way to find out if CWM has been NV flashed before re-flashing it?
Also, CWM shows up under the app. menu ( but I understand it is not an app)

sksriniv said:
Thanks a lot for the quick reply.
I got a g2x thru craigslist. It had Phoenix blood v 1.1 on it.
Is there a way to find out if CWM has been NV flashed before re-flashing it?
Also, CWM shows up under the app. menu ( but I understand it is not an app)
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Power off phone. Hold power and volume down button at same time till android screen comes up. At that point it should show cwm recovery if its on there which I would think it is if you are on customs rom
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sksriniv said:
Thanks a lot for the quick reply.
I got a g2x thru craigslist. It had Phoenix blood v 1.1 on it.
Is there a way to find out if CWM has been NV flashed before re-flashing it?
Also, CWM shows up under the app. menu ( but I understand it is not an app)
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I would just nvflash the newest cwm anyways. Couldn't hurt and then you know it will stick
Pin it to Win it.

Thanks
Just NV flashed cwm5.0.2.0. No problems.
I should store all contacts to sim and backup apps thru titanium backup--correct?
Should I perform a nandroid backup--since I am on phoenix blood v1.1 (not stock, remember I got my g2x thru craigslist)--is there any point to this? Am I ready for g2xscrubber? (Since this is recommended before any other roms)

sksriniv said:
Thanks
Just NV flashed cwm5.0.2.0. No problems.
I should store all contacts to sim and backup apps thru titanium backup--correct?
Should I perform a nandroid backup--since I am on phoenix blood v1.1 (not stock, remember I got my g2x thru craigslist)--is there any point to this? Am I ready for g2xscrubber? (Since this is recommended before any other roms)
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Yep you got it. If your going to stick with Phoenix blood I would wait a few hours as hell is going to release 1.8 in a few hours. But defiantly make a nandroid and tit backup is my app of choice for apps.
When your ready to flash download the rom and Google apps off the OP. Then run the scrubber and then the rom then Google apps. Reboot system then let your phone sit for a few minutes ans your good to go
Pin it to Win it.

when you say run the g2xscrubber or flash the g2xscrubber, is this done from CWM recovery screen? That is get into CWM recovery menu--find the install from SD submenu--choose g2xscrubber and hit enter?
Do I have to perform wipe data/factory reset, before g2xscrubber?
(I have g2xscrubber as the only file in the microsd now; once I perform a nandroid backup as suggested, I will likely have more files. Is it okay to have more than the g2xscrubber in the root of the sd card?)
I guess, I am asking too many questions (possibly too simple for some); just want to be careful; I have seen too many people ask questions after they have screwed up (also to confirm that I have tried to look up these questions about the scrubber for which answers do not exist, so far)
Thanks again

sksriniv said:
when you say run the g2xscrubber or flash the g2xscrubber, is this done from CWM recovery screen? That is get into CWM recovery menu--find the install from SD submenu--choose g2xscrubber and hit enter?
Do I have to perform wipe data/factory reset, before g2xscrubber?
(I have g2xscrubber as the only file in the microsd now; once I perform a nandroid backup as suggested, I will likely have more files. Is it okay to have more than the g2xscrubber in the root of the sd card?)
I guess, I am asking too many questions (possibly too simple for some); just want to be careful; I have seen too many people ask questions after they have screwed up (also to confirm that I have tried to look up these questions about the scrubber for which answers do not exist, so far)
Thanks again
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Yeah you got it , put your new rom and gapps on the SD as well. You don't have to do a wipe/factory reset that's what the scrubber does . Make sure you do the nandroid before the scrubber lol
Making bad decision's one at a time.

Issue with CM9 ROM on Motorola Defy

Few months back i flashed CM9 ROM by Elypson3 on my Moto Defy.Presently there is a new version of that ROM which i downloaded and flashed.I have Nandroid Backup of the previous ROM.After flashing the updated version of that ROM i am getting ROOT problems using Superuser.When i use the ALLOW all app the root permissions in Superuser,the apps does not allow the root(Tested onany apps including Titanium Backup Pro),but when i use the PROMT option in Superuser settings,the root works on all apps when i tap ALLOW button on promt.
Is there any problem in ROM or i have to ROOT my phone again?Also if anyone can post some simple steps to flash ROM freshly(like a very new ROM and not including a single bit of data from previous versions,like wiping data etc.) would be really helpful.

Go into superuser app & check for update. You can try to unroot, reboot, & reroot. Play around how you like, since you (smartly) made a backup.
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post-mortem said:
Go into superuser app & check for update. You can try to unroot, reboot, & reroot. Play around how you like, since you (smartly) made a backup.
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Thanks for the reply.Ya I had a backup and unfortunatly had to go back to that as the update had some changes which i didnt like .I have a question, how to flash the stock nandroid backup?I have the ROM and its Fixed SFB.So what to flash first ROM or SFB?And after flashing stock ROM and SFB will i be able to get back to CM9 using nandroid backup?

I have problems with SMS. I don't receive certain texts. just randomly.Anyone else with this problem?

Thanks for the reply.Ya I had a backup and unfortunatly had to go back to that as the update had some changes which i didnt like .I have a question, how to flash the stock nandroid backup?I have the ROM and its Fixed SFB.So what to flash first ROM or SFB?And after flashing stock ROM and SFB will i be able to get back to CM9 using nandroid backup?
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I don't know what SFB is, but I'm guessing you need it for the ROM to work on your phone? In that case, ROM first.
Nandroid backs up your whole phone's internal memory, so restoring will take you back to whatever state your phone was in when you made the backup. The contents of your SD card are not included in the backup.
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I don't know what SFB is, but I'm guessing you need it for the ROM to work on your phone? In that case, ROM first.
Nandroid backs up your whole phone's internal memory, so restoring will take you back to whatever state your phone was in when you made the backup. The contents of your SD card are not included in the backup.
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Restored Nandroid ROM first and its rebooting again and again after Motorola logo.And cant go to cwm recovery too.What to do now?
Edit:Fixed.Thnx to this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1618718

Backup & restore rom

hi everyone,
i have just rooted my lava iris 454(ICS 4.0.4). i am very happy with my engineering (thanks to those members who helped me).
now before going to try custom ROM's i want to make a back up of company provided ROM.
SO, somebody please give me step by step instructions :
1) how can i backup my ROM.
2) After installing custom ROM how can i restore my backup ROM.
please somebody help me. i will be grateful.

aakashing said:
hi everyone,
i have just rooted my lava iris 454(ICS 4.0.4). i am very happy with my engineering (thanks to those members who helped me).
now before going to try custom ROM's i want to make a back up of company provided ROM.
SO, somebody please give me step by step instructions :
1) how can i backup my ROM.
2) After installing custom ROM how can i restore my backup ROM.
please somebody help me. i will be grateful.
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You can install ROM Manager from PlayStore and use Clockworkmod to backup your ROM. Or you could also backup your rom by entering your device's recovery. You can trigger it by pressing a specific combination (Volume Up, Volume Down or both alternatively - depends on your device) of buttons while the device is switching on.
You can find elaborate explanations here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1587607
Hope I helped.

In a nutshell, what you are looking for is called a making nandroid backup. There are many programs which can accomplish this. My favorite is 4EXT recovery, which you can download from the play store. It does require you have root to install 4EXT! After you have a program such as 4EXT or ClockworkMod which can make nandroid backups, then you can save them and restore them in the future. This is how you can return your phone to the exact way it was when you make the backup.

thank you for advising me 4EXT recovery and ROM Manager.
What about titanium backup?
i made a backup(i hope so) by Titanium backup, by selecting the option "Backup all user apps and system data".
my questions are:
1) is that enough for back up?
2) how can i restore it after installing a new rom?
3) in between the process of installing if my phone become dead or blank how it will possible to access titanium backup?
oh its so much complicated. plz any developer help me.
thanks in advance.

installed ROM Manager Premium v5.0.2.7
if select
1) "Flash CWM Recovery"
asks to confirm ph model-> select iris 454 -> says "it does not have an official supported CWM yet. Have u installed a cwm based recovery manually?" -> if i select "yes," 2 option comes for confirm version cmw 2.x and cmw 3.x -> after selecting one of those nothing happen.
2) Backup current ROM
displays "new backup name..." -> if i click OK the system reboot. -> in reboot process an android symbol comes and suddenly it lay down like a wounded man. -> system hangs ->only removing battery makes it solve.

Yes, that's enough backup. You have backed up all your system data and applications. So you can restore your phone's last known working state.
After installing a new ROM, you can download Titanium Backup from PlayStore and use it to restore everything.
Note: Some ROM's don't have PlayStore available in their package in which case you'd have to download the gapps package separately and flash it too while flashing the ROM.
You cannot use Titanium Backup if your phone doesn't come alive. You'd have to restore the stock ROM or flash some other known-to-be-working ROM. You can then restore your stuff.
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I've never used a nandroid backup, I usually do a backup with go backup (sms,phone log,wifi passwords and apps with preferences) which is an easy and intuitive app. If something fails i have a tested rom which i flash before do anything else.
Why it's better to do a nandroid backup and not just this??

Voldizard said:
Yes, that's enough backup. You have backed up all your system data and applications. So you can restore your phone's last known working state.
After installing a new ROM, you can download Titanium Backup from PlayStore and use it to restore everything.
Note: Some ROM's don't have PlayStore available in their package in which case you'd have to download the gapps package separately and flash it too while flashing the ROM.
You cannot use Titanium Backup if your phone doesn't come alive. You'd have to restore the stock ROM or flash some other known-to-be-working ROM. You can then restore your stuff.
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thnx dear.
titanium backup is enough for me.
but now what about" if your phone doesn't come alive"? how should i restore the stock ROM if it is unavailable?
can i make stock rom or make a back up of stock rom? how?

Sewrizer said:
this means that your device is not supported by CWM recovery so there is not much to do, unless your stock recovery can perform the same tasks as CWM. for instance sgs2 recovery mode only allows you to install zip and to wipe cache and factory reset.
On the other hand there is a risky method you may try but i am not sure whether it would work. Install odin on your PC or mobile odin on your device and look for a kernel which has CWM recovery in it. THIS IS A RISKY OPERATION SO THINK BEFORE YOU DO THIS. I'm saying this because i bricked my sgs2 and the only way i could make it work was to restore, but again, you need CWM to restore. good luck.
hit thanks if i helped or reply/ send me a PM if you need further details.
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"for instance sgs2 recovery mode only allows you to install zip and to wipe cache and factory reset"
unable to understand this.
i want to try with other rom (because custom rom unavailable for my device); if it fails how should i make alive my phone?
is it possible to recover the company provided rom?
plz response.
thanks in adv.

aakashing said:
thnx dear.
titanium backup is enough for me.
but now what about" if your phone doesn't come alive"? how should i restore the stock ROM if it is unavailable?
can i make stock rom or make a back up of stock rom? how?
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You can find the entire procedure for backing up your Stock ROM here: http://androidadvices.com/backup-stock-rom-clockworkmod-rom-manager/
In order to restore Stock ROM, turn off your phone, boot your phone into recovery and use the restore option in the screen you see.

Sewrizer said:
Can you put your phone in recovery mode? I if so, take a picture of it and post it in a reply.
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when i press power+ vol down key in booting time it displays Factory mode.
Under this heading the sub menus come like this (i dont know whether it is recovery mode or not.)
Full test
Item test
Test Report
Clear eMMC
Version
Reboot
is it enough info? otherwise ill shoot a photo.
plz make some way-out bro.

it sounds like you need to flash a custom recovery on your thing first

tsomclovin said:
it sounds like you need to flash a custom recovery on your thing first
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whats that man?
whats d process?
i badly need to solve that.
thanks in advance.