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Is the RC33 Upgrade responsible for sms/calls Buggy Behavior?

I am in Baltimore Maryland... Ever since i upgraded to jf's rc33 firmware, i get aloooooooooot of " undelivered message" notifications. This never used to happen to me, maybe once a week with 2 messages. In most cases people ask me why the F am i triple texting, and it happens when i try to resend the messages and the phone keeps saying "message cannot be delivered". Is anyone else experiencing this? In maryland only perhaps?
I have tried keeping message count below 100, reseting the phone seems to be the only quick fix. One other thing, when i try to make phonecalls every now and then, the **** just hangs up as soon as the call is placed and when i receive a call sometimes and i press the answer key, it takes about 10 seconds to answer and continues to ring. suggestions buddys?

Make sure you delete your SMS threads if they get too long. Typically once threads get past 150 they are slow and take a while to open. If you are using the stock sms try chomp seems to handle threads better. I have JFRC33 and have not issues.

My wife and I have the exact same problem with the phone hanging up and not picking up a call for while. And dropped calls - almost always. And we live in the heart of Dallas.

yea the g1 is a nice phone, but either android or t-mobile blows..
every now and then people call me, and i get a missed call, but the phone never rings,
and sometimes when i call people, they pick up but one of us cant hear the other,
and sometimes, the g1 will ring, but when i press the green button to anwser, the phone continues to ring
im getting pissed off,
rc29, rc33 both fail to work

I am in Baltimore as well, and I have JF1.42 RC33, without any of the problems you have. Sorry, can't be of more assistance, but maybe your SIM card is old and needs to be replaced? I have heard of them causing issues sometimes.

yup same thing is happening to my phone. it is really starting to piss me off. i thought it was cuz i dropped my phone but i guess others have been getting the same thing. i hope theres a fix for this

I had this happen to me about two days ago. SMS failed to send to anyone. I restarted the phone and havent had a problem since. They are still developing this unit, so try to be patient.

i've had some calling issues recently, both making and receiving.
sometimes when receiving a call, i'll pick up and my phone will reboot, and take absolutely ages to boot up. and when making calls the other end will sometimes go completely dead and it's the same for the other person.
only happens very occasionally but it's happened with a few landline calls and different mobile networks. only been since RC33 too. not saying it's related but it is kinda annoying.

Wipe fixes all

unless the problem's firmware/hardware related, then it does **** all.

Wipe and wait
Could be too many apps eating memory on the G1 and/or buggy apps crashing buggy android. The best you can do is download mybackup from market, back up all data +sms+ageda etc, Wipe the phone. An dont install a single app from the market in 1-3 days and see if problems dissapear.
Personally, i never install any app who claims to "start at boot" Never. MyBackup is one of them and always delete it after backup. i may be wrong but i thing resident in memory apps and apps who starts at boot degrades performance over time, because many of them are buggy so i avoid using them. Well my phone runs fine with this.

buggy behavior
well i think this happen when phone memory is full, try to delete least used applications, clear applications cache like browser and youtube , then do a reset.

Ive had the issue more than a few times where the phone will start ringing but the screen will stay dark, i wait until it turns on to see who is calling after a few rings and then it wont respond to pressing the answer button unless i press it a few times, and even then it takes its sweet time answering. Ive dropped plenty of calls due to this, and yes it has only started happening after the radio firmware/RC33 update.

unrafa said:
Could be too many apps eating memory on the G1 and/or buggy apps crashing buggy android. The best you can do is download mybackup from market, back up all data +sms+ageda etc, Wipe the phone. An dont install a single app from the market in 1-3 days and see if problems dissapear.
Personally, i never install any app who claims to "start at boot" Never. MyBackup is one of them and always delete it after backup. i may be wrong but i thing resident in memory apps and apps who starts at boot degrades performance over time, because many of them are buggy so i avoid using them. Well my phone runs fine with this.
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Oh... don't even start my on "MyBackup"... I kept trying to figure out why my phone was lagged so much when I was going back to home screen. Uninstalled apps that were running all the time one by one. MyBackup and Phonebook were 2 biggest memory hogs. Phone runs oh so smooth after I unistalled those 2. Backgrounds app still autostarts for some reason but I like that app too much to uninstall and it does not cause as many problems.

bleomycin said:
Ive had the issue more than a few times where the phone will start ringing but the screen will stay dark, i wait until it turns on to see who is calling after a few rings and then it wont respond to pressing the answer button unless i press it a few times, and even then it takes its sweet time answering. Ive dropped plenty of calls due to this, and yes it has only started happening after the radio firmware/RC33 update.
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I still have this problem after another wipe..
why does android suck...
i wish tmo would come out with a winmo 3g phone, so much more stable and with more features =(.. i miss my shadow now

I started running into the issue of the phone not actually responding to the "answer call" button, but found it was only happening when I had auto-rotate set up with the DroidSans tools and the display had been rotated to landscape. It seemed like it would start trying to switch to portrait, then lock itself up long enough for the call to go to voicemail, then flip to portrait and be responsive again. I haven't had the problem since I disabled auto-rotate.
However, on the "too many apps" thing, I've suddenly started noticing that my phone will start a good 15-20 apps on startup, including things like AK Notepad. I didn't notice if this was something that started with RC33 or if I've done something else to make this happen...does this happen with anyone else?

I have had a similar issue with my g1 dropping calls and will sometimes see a force close while on a call as well. I did a wipe and did not enable auto rotation and so far it seems to be running more smoothly.

Been there done that...I am having the same issues and it is beginning to drive me nuts. I make heavy heavy use of my phone on a daily basis. Dropping calls where they just go to la la land...or the phone rings and I cannot answer for about 10 to 15 seconds, the phone just reboots for no reason... stupid things like that. I have RC33 rooted, radio upgraded with JF 1.41 and this has been happening daily about 3 times or so a day. I love my G1 and I have a hard time parting with it...I am trying to be patient while it develops but...I am about to go get the 8900 curve...

I forgot to mention...I had to do a wipe on my phone also due to a problem with the accelerameter and that did not help this issue either.
-Tonloc69

it seems to me that it is tmob related, since i`ve had that b4 on my lil nokia phone.

Anyone else having this problem with Handcent on the EVO?

Hello, all. Couldn't find anything on this elsewhere, so...
Was listening to all the raves about Handcent, so DL'd it from the Market on my EVO & have been using it for several days. Pretty good app & seems all the reviews were pretty much spot-on.
However, last night, when launching the app & selecting a message, my phone shut down & power-cycled. Waited on the phone to boot, went back into the app, selected another message & it happened again.
Hasn't happened since, but the only thing I know is different is that I also DL'd the text-to-speech add-on from the Market.
Anyone else experienced this?
Thanks to all the members & devs for their contributions, insights & info!
TD

I wouldn't blame Handcent for that. The EVO (and most HTC phones) have a reputation for randomly restarting sometimes.

TheBiles said:
I wouldn't blame Handcent for that. The EVO (and most HTC phones) have a reputation for randomly restarting sometimes.
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Understood. Wasn't really "blaming" Handcent, but wondering if anyone else had the same experience since both times I was using that app & trying to select messages to read.
Never had that happen when I was just using the stock SMS app.

If it happens again you might be on to something, but I've never had any problems with Handcent in 7 months.

TheBiles said:
If it happens again you might be on to something, but I've never had any problems with Handcent in 7 months.
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Thanks, Biles. I've read lots of posts by users that have had nothing but good things to say about Handcent, which is why I was so surprised. Since my post(s), I haven't had this reoccur.
Something else has happened a few times, however. Intermittently, the secondary characters on the keyboard won't pop up. For instance, long-pressing the "c" for an apostrophe or the "k" for a question mark only results in a "c" or "k" being typed on the screen. The only way I've been able to get it to work again is to PC the phone.
While they're probably not related, I haven't had this happen since the latest OTA update from Sprint, but time will tell, I guess.
Thanks for the feedback.

i can help i had this issue to,my problem was that i set a notfication sound from my sd i even had to re flash what i did was i added all to tones i wanted in media in there respective folders in the rom i hope this helps

I am using Handcent and I dont have this issue...however my timestamp is off and even if I set -5 hours, it still doesnt work

as goofy as this sounds, you might want to try a battery pull. or an uninstall and reinstall of hand cent
I've never had any probs with it either in the month I have used it

are you running JIT on your ROM?

SK4G Software FLAWED!

What the hell is going on. I tried resetting and everything, even exchanged the device and the new one is doing the same thing! Also vibrating and force closing it is getting on my nerves! The followig seems to happen after a while I am TIRED of having to turn of my phone and turn it back on! ~ I go to play a .mp3 it says " FIle type not supported"...My .mp3 ringtone does not work the phone just vibrates the selected ringtone doesnt work. I got too take a picture or record video it says "Camera Failed"....I get a visual voicemail....the "play" button is grayed out and I have to turn off phone turn it BACK On just to check my voicemail. Also occassioally my sms wont work either. I turn my phone off and on every morning and throughout day I notice this and its getting REAL annoying !

Well first off, this isn't a software flaw, this is specific to you, as we have many users here including myself who are using these phones daily without the issues you are describing.
You had said that the issue was with an mp3, can you upload that somewhere for us to test on our phones?
As far as the camera and visual voicemail, I've never heard of that issue before, perhaps you ended up with a bad phone again?

I am getting the frequent force close with messaging. I also have had problems with the camera and idk about the mp3 stuff I haven't put any ringtones on the phone yet. This is getting really annoying I agree.

I don't have any issues with mine? Have you guys done anything like rooting or flashing anything?

Nope, completely stock. The most I have done is take a screen shot lol.

hmm maybe some have a defect? It's not all SK4g's though, as some of us have no issues at all. I would suggest getting it replaced by T-Mobile, as this is a factory defect. not sure why that happened to you guys. has anyone else had these issues and found any fixes?

That's kinda tough the hearest t-mobile is like 4 hours from here /:
One of my friends who went with me on the trip to get the SK also got one and he says he's never gotten a force close so you may be right. But could it have anything to do with the amount of texts I send/receive? Because I have to admit it is pretty excessive. The failing to send messages when I am receiving one simultaneously is expected, but not the force closes in my opinion.

It shouldn't force close on you. I know mine fails to send every once in a while too, as I text a lot (kinda the reason I got the phone). failing to send isn't as big of a deal, as it notifies you and you just have to click resend. Not entirely sure why it's force closing though? I wonder if a logcat might help? if you have adb installed, you can try adb logcat and see what shows up when you force close? if we can find the issue there, it might be fixable from our end. all depends on where the flaw lies/if it's just a bad apk somehow or if there's an actual hardware issue or something.

I'll do a log next time there is a fc, I'm having another issue or it may be related, but this one is with WidgetLocker I believe. Sometimes when I go to unlock the phone it'll freeze up and then I dont know how to explain it, but it almost seems like it resets but it really doesnt. The phone will blackout for a little then the homescreen will pop up and service will gone for a while until the cards are read just like if I rebooted.

That might be a function of WidgetLocker, I used it on my old G1 and it always hung and black screened at me.

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That might be a function of WidgetLocker, I used it on my old G1 and it always hung and black screened at me.
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Yeah I know it does that from time to time, but on my previous phone it wouldn't do that reboot thing where it would lose connection then resend my latest text messages once it reconnected.

I'm not sure why it's doing that. My guess would be that the issues are caused because the SK4G doesn't use a normal lock screen. widgetlocker uses some modification of the system file for the lock screen, and perhaps it's not sure what to modify? just my 2 cents.

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I'm not sure why it's doing that. My guess would be that the issues are caused because the SK4G doesn't use a normal lock screen. widgetlocker uses some modification of the system file for the lock screen, and perhaps it's not sure what to modify? just my 2 cents.
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That's what I was thinking too, I'm gonna uninstall it for a bit and see if anything changes.

is anyone else having an issue with notification volume? everytime i reboot my SK, my notification volume gets pushed all the way down to nothing, so i don't get a sound notification for texts, emails, etc, until i move the notif. volume back up in my settings. i did root with the one-click for the Epic 4G.

This is a new UI so alot of the apps i.e. widgets you may put on will cause issues. If you like certain apps contact the dev so your device is supported correctly. Still to new to get mad at it till sum of the bugs get worked out. I did notice a couple of times when I left screen on in pocket on accident that when I go to use it again it doesn't respond to any touch but can move courser around till rebooted then its ok. If some don't already know the sk4g is almost the same as the epic. The sk4g is still a badass phone for 100bucks.

Same as the OP
I know this is a little old, but I've experienced the same problem as the OP so it seems they are not alone with this problem.
I actually tried two different newly formatted SD cards (because I thought it may have been the SD card), and still would have the problem. Then I actually did swap phones about a month ago and it seemed the problem would now take several days to resurface instead of several hours. And I could deal with that.
Since the OTA update about 2 weeks ago, the phone has been back on it's original BS as the OP posted and it's driving me nuts. I actually missed some emergency calls last night because the mp3 ringtone didn't work so I'm finding a solution to this issue today or trashing this phone.
My belief is that there is something interfering with the phone's ability to read the SD card for media. Because other apps I have that save to the SD card or read from it work fine. So I'm going to master reset it and not download any of my apps and see what happens when I set an mp3 ringtone. If it makes it through the day with no hiccups, I'll slowly add back one app at a time until hopefully I can find the culprit.
bipoler if you'd like, we can exchange via PM what apps we both have downloaded and see if we have some in common that may be problems.
I'll post back with any progress.

I've been having the problem with ringtones not working, just getting silence when I get a call. for me it seems to happen when I set a ringtone from the app Zedge, I don't think it happens when I use ringtones from the Android System, which would make sense if the issue is related to reading the sdcard. gonna go back to a system ringtone and see what happens today.

Yeah my phone had all those problems, but I installed the Lightning rom and all those problems went away, except for the ones about messages failing...I text A LOT

Lightning ROM
Thanks for that info on the Lightning Rom. I will check that out. Phone has been working flawlessly all day with the mp3 ringtone and no extra apps besides the master reset. I might give it until the morning before I start putting them back on.

On stock id install so many apps that ran on the background that id get delay from opening closing swiping and turning onthe phone.. so I wiped it installed a custom rom and just kept the essentials.. havnt had a problem since... well.. occasionly ill have to odi but that's on purpose
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Problem deleting large amounts of text messages.

I have 3 or 4 conversations that I had saved for personal reasons that are over 1500 messages long and I no longer need them. Every time I try to delete the texts, my phone just freezes or gets really laggy until I have to just reboot or pull the battery. Is there an easier way or better way to delete threads with that many texts?

Delete one thread each night before going to bed. When you wake up it should be gone. Repeat each night until they're gone.
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Yes in all seriousness I have done exactly that, I'm a text hoarder too. On some of my previous smart phones the phone would seem to freeze, but if i left it alone a few hours when i got back the threaded conversation was gone.
Rooted Thunderbolt on BAMF Sense 3.0 RC 4 with MR2 radio and latest dreamKernel.

you might try using handcent for your sms's. Just deleted a convo over 1000+ messages in a few seconds. Didn't bog the phone down either.

i have had a few conversations not nearly as large as yours before deleting
and it did seem to take a while.

I had the exact same problem. Try deleting them before you go to bed and see if they are gone in the morning. It took mine like almost an hour to delete 2000. It looks like its doing nothing, but eventually the disappear.

Messages settings delete old threads look there...or applications manage applications what ever sms program clear cache next step clear data...something goes south restart phone......
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I use a program from the market called "delete old messages" - the free version. It has a few less options than paid, but it deletes my messages very nicely. I started using it when I had my Eris since the phone would get so bogged down.

Probably would be wise to limit message count to 200 or less as well. Much more and it really drags rump.

HELP. Keyboard won't type.

I have the Infused ROM 1.5.3, and every so often I'll go to type something, and no letters will show up in the text box! The keyboard thinks it's typing, and even the predictions show up sometimes. However, no text is ever typed into the text box. Sometimes restarting my launcher fixes it, but lately I've had to resort to restarting the phone. So frustrating. This happened on Infused 1.5.0 too, but it seemed to go away. Now all the sudden after upgrading to 1.5.3 it's happening a lot. Any suggestions? Does anyone else have this problem?

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I have the Infused ROM 1.5.3, and every so often I'll go to type something, and no letters will show up in the text box! The keyboard thinks it's typing, and even the predictions show up sometimes. However, no text is ever typed into the text box. Sometimes restarting my launcher fixes it, but lately I've had to resort to restarting the phone. So frustrating. This happened on Infused 1.5.0 too, but it seemed to go away. Now all the sudden after upgrading to 1.5.3 it's happening a lot. Any suggestions? Does anyone else have this problem?
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No sounds like a ghost i would download infused full zip then odin back to stock and flash with red cwm and pray
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this might sound weird but i swear the only problems i have with my phone are when im connected to our microcell. texts failing, keyboard not working, widgets not responding, calls not calling until 7 minutes after i hit "call."

Not sure what causes it or what to do to fix it but I have had the same problem on Refuse 1.6 and 1.7 mainly when using Andchat (irc client) have encountered it less in yaaic but have never experienced it in other areas of typing (messaging, browsers and such)
Sorry not of help but its not just u.

I've had the same problem, with no ROM on my phone at all, rooted stock. However when it happens to me i can just hit back until im at the home screen and then open the text message app up again. It always works when i do this. What keyboard are u using? ive got the "Android 2.3 Keyboard."

i have that keyboard, too. and the samsung and swiftkey. none of them work. what's even more bizarre is that it seems as though when i'm connected to wifi AND the microcell, i can't send texts or make calls and that's when my phone freaks out and the keyboards don't work. i turned off my wifi today and my texts finally sent and i haven't had an issue since.

Yeah had the same problem. All I did was just closed my text and reopened it. Kept doing it until it worked again.
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Same problem
I've had the same problem since I got my phone, I've been searching for almost two years on how to fix this problem, usually people don't believe me when I post on this. It seems to get worse the longer I use it and eventually it gets so bad I have to reflash my phone. I'm pretty sure its an app that I use, which would explain why I don't see it at first as I don't backup my apps, just redownload them when I need them. Is there an easy way to get a list of apps from your phone that we could post and cross reference? It doesn't matter which keyboard I'm using. It seems to happen mostly with the default SMS messanger, though it might just be that I use it the most and thats when I notice it, it does happen occasionally with other text fields.
Just as described, the keyboard won't type when I initially open it. The keyboard seems to be working, predictive text works, but nothing appears in the text field. If I wait, type on the keyboard a lot (maybe thats just part of waiting) back out of the keyboard repeatedly or restart the app it seems to fix it temporarily. It doesn't seem to matter which apps are running when it happens.
Any ideas people?

I was constantly having this issue on the GB ROMs I used. In both revenant and infused it would happen. I could recreate it by letting my phone lock while the keyboard was open. It always happened to me in stock messaging and Google Voice because I would pause trying to think of what to type. It became so annoying having to kill the app responsible or sometimes restart my phone that I decided to switch back to JB. I'm on the unofficial CM 10.1 now and haven't had one issue with the stock keyboard or Google Keyboard.
I never did try another keyboard or messaging app. You could try forcing your phone to stay awake longer if you notice the same thing I did. If it's just happening randomly then I'm afraid I don't know what to tell you besides that the jelly beans are delicious; you should give into peer pressure and try one.
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I have had this issue with my Infuse also, running CM 10.1 Cyber sgs-IV style ROM. It isn't as bad as some of y'all though, it seems to just hang for a few seconds while I'm typing, then the words will catch up. Only seems to happen when I have between 200-500 messages in a thread, so I was thinking it was a memory issue.. but I'm no developer.