Video Chat options: Tango is working, Google Talk A/V Not,or substitute streaming app - HTC ChaCha

Dear All,
TANGO
I am so happy that Tango VideoChat is working!! I suppose all ROMS taking the front vs back camera into consideration
GTALK
I am upset though and please forgive me for insisting for GTALK, I really hope this is not an ARM processor instruction set issue on our device, but if yes, still I dont understand why its really impossible to make the correct patches to make it work, and why Tango is able to utilize...
On other phones it works, like cheap Xperia's and our ChaCha not..it seems unfortunately
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1056793
[APP][ROOT] Google Talk 1.3 with Video calling, Now wifi optional - is the title.
Under this thread there are various ways to install the video version enabled of GTalk. Personally I succeeded with the installation with @MOdaco install apk way and I can log in, chat with no problem. It also displays the camera icon correctly.
Only when I try to make a Video call from my side it hangs, and if other party tries to call me it refers to a network problem
USTREAM, BAMBUSER
(I prefer Bambuser due to the settings more versatility and I think better quality)
can be a Workaround to make your family at home see what you are doing instead of videochat and while streaming in the background you can initiate a call with VIBER for instance
If any other less battery sucking or nicer ways come out nonetheless GTALK updates make possible to work I will post it while being curious what others use... especially for phone to pc (mac)

Hongrois123 said:
Dear All,
TANGO
I am so happy that Tango VideoChat is working!! I suppose all ROMS taking the front vs back camera into consideration
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Fine! I think it should work with Yahoo Messenger too, but wasn't able to try it yet because no one uses it.
I am upset though and please forgive me for insisting for GTALK, I really hope this is not an ARM processor instruction set issue on our device, but if yes, still I dont understand why its really impossible to make the correct patches to make it work, and why Tango is able to utilize...
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Like I wrote in another posting 10 minutes ago, it is not possible getting this to work. I don't understand too why Google is doing this and I also don't even understand why voice talk won't work without video talk (on the PC it does, on Android phones not).
Only when I try to make a Video call from my side it hangs, and if other party tries to call me it refers to a network problem
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Similar here - so nothing with Google Talk yet.
There was some App that promises video for Google Talk on phones where it usually won't work. But don't try this, it doesn't work on the Chacha either.

Gtalk-Vtok
There is an app called Vtok on the market which works (with some minor issues eg you cant log out), but its a real battery drainer, so I installed it for case in need, but freezing it for normally...

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Android Webcam

I have been wondering thru the internet and have found many ideas of using a mobile phone with Android on it as a webcam.
placeware has been working on developing one but i can not seem to get in contact with these guys or find there app.
This would be a really cool idea and has already been implemented on the nokia s60 s40 etc. But not for the Android.
I think the best approach however would be finding out how qik use the the cell network to send video to their site.
Just do to this representation of a live video feed means that this would be very possible.
Some other ideas would be to use Bluetooth, Wifi or USB to connect the phone for webcam use.
This is qik the video streaming peeps
cant post the link
This is the webcam idea some other group had but has recently appeared to die...
cant post the link
...
That is a cool app for sure but the intention here is to not have to buy a web cam when i have a perfectly good 5mp camera on my phone.
As well as a wireless one to boot would be really cool.
Not to mention using the phone as a mic as well.
For instance; To use with skype to show somebody certain objects or large objects that you would not normally be able to show easily with a wired webcam.
I think it would just be really cool to have a phone with a cam facing you to use apps like skype on android....
Somebody really needs to do something like this it would be really really awesome and convenient to use.
However, The basic idea being feeding video to a computer to use for whatever you would want.
+1 on this.
I've been waiting for something for ages for this on my Nexi. I mean it may need root access but IDC, because it's better than most webcams probably.
This is a really good idea, I'm surprised an app hasn't been made for this yet. Hopefully it's just a matter of time.
This would be cool, hoe someone picks up on this

Android and why I want WiMo back

For almost 2 years I used a Touch Diamond. While WiMo is far from perfect in todays world with a bit of tweaking and some extra software I had a device that did what I wanted it to do. Sure, WiMo isnt what you´d call fast but as said, it did what it had to do.
For the past few days I´ve been using android with my new htc legend. I heard a lot of good things about android and that is why I decided to switch. But even after a few days I´m already having a feeling of regret. While android is very fast and finger friendly the OS/apps itself just don't cut it compared to WiMo. About 75% of the things I did on a daily basis with my phone just don't work (properly) on android.
Syncing mail with hotmail is a *****. It for example does not sync read messages so everytime I login with my pc I still have to click all new messages while I already read them on my phone. This worked perfectly with WiMo.
No automatic 3g disconnect. Now this isnt default on WiMo either but there are apps that just disconnect a idle data connection. Now android has a whole bunch of apps like juicedefender but they just dont work properly and are overcomplicated. Just disconnect if I don't use it. Thats all I want. Let apps and whatever connect when they want to and kill the connection when they are done. Simple you'd think but impossible on android it seems.
Youtube is a epic fail. In the exact same place, with the exact same simcard I just can't load a movie. They all stop after 3 seconds and don't load further. Also there is no option for always having HQ. The WiMo app had this and I could always load HQ movies without trouble.
But it gets even worse when it comes to much more practical things. The browser won't save exchange webmail login info. So now I'm expected to loging like 5 times a day to my uni mail by typing my info every time? Not nice.
And what about displaying agenda items? can't do that on the lockscreen. There are apps to do this but not on the htc sense one as far as I've seen. So I have to manually check my agenda which is just a ***** because I'm just to seeing things come up on the homescreen.
Also I can't login to the uni website. You should get a login popup but the android browser doesnt seem to be capable of this. Ofcourse this was no problem at all with a 2 year old browser... So now I can't check schedules and all.
Also there is no way to stream my favorite internet radio station.
Basically I pay 10 euro's a month for internet on my phone but all apps I regulairy use with internet don't work or only work a bit on android.
Don't get me wrong, I love the speed and all but what good is speed to me if I can't use most of the functions that are important to me? What is even more disturbing is that non of the things I want to do are very special. This should all just work but it seems to be far above what android is capable of.
Basically to me android is a disfunctional OS. If the above things would work, I'd love it but now all I got is speed, but no way of doing the things I want.
Nice try, but not quite it.
sjaak1234 said:
Syncing mail with hotmail is a *****. It for example does not sync read messages so everytime I login with my pc I still have to click all new messages while I already read them on my phone. This worked perfectly with WiMo.
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That's hardly Android error - it just seems to be a bug in the mail client app. Maybe yry another one?
No automatic 3g disconnect. Now this isnt default on WiMo either but there are apps that just disconnect a idle data connection. Now android has a whole bunch of apps like juicedefender but they just dont work properly and are overcomplicated. Just disconnect if I don't use it. Thats all I want. Let apps and whatever connect when they want to and kill the connection when they are done. Simple you'd think but impossible on android it seems.
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It's not as simple as it sounds - android has to have an active data connection to enable IM messages as well as gmail imap notifications. Unlike POP3 e-mail accounts where you have to querry the server for new e-mails once in a while, gmail actually sends information to your phone when you get an email. And this wouldn't be possible if the connection was turned off.
And if you don't want to use gmail or gtalk, just disable background data in android's data sync settings and the 3g module won't eat your battery when unneeded. Don't worry, android is much smarter with power management than winMo and the fact that you didn't disable something by hand doesn't mean that it's eating your battery.
It's like GPS - even if it;s turned on in options/on power control wigdet the module isn't physically powered up until an app requests to use it. And when it's done the module powers down again. But still you see people disabling gps support in options after exiting maps believing that it will save some battery, or even requesting an app that would disable the switch on power control wigdet.
So just remember - it's a different OS, it has different rules and the fact that you did something by hand in winMo doesn't mean you have to do it here.
Youtube is a epic fail. In the exact same place, with the exact same simcard I just can't load a movie. They all stop after 3 seconds and don't load further. Also there is no option for always having HQ. The WiMo app had this and I could always load HQ movies without trouble.
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Again, this seems to be a problem with your rom/app version. I (and many other people) don't have any trouble with YT on android.
As for the HQ, it's turned on automatically when you're on wifi, on a gsm connection it defaults to standard quality. Personally i like this behavior but i agree that there should be an option to change that for people with huge/unlimited data plans.
But it gets even worse when it comes to much more practical things. The browser won't save exchange webmail login info. So now I'm expected to loging like 5 times a day to my uni mail by typing my info every time? Not nice.
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Weird, but also not android bug, just the browser. You might want to try some alternatives (like dolphin, skyfire, opera mini)
And what about displaying agenda items? can't do that on the lockscreen. There are apps to do this but not on the htc sense one as far as I've seen. So I have to manually check my agenda which is just a ***** because I'm just to seeing things come up on the homescreen.
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Okay, and since when does WinMo display the agenda without any additional software? But i agree, htc really should make some "upcomming events" widget, and default android could use one as well. For now i use "CalWidget" and i know of "pure calendar widget" (paid). I don't know it they're compatible with sense but it may be worth a try
Also I can't login to the uni website. You should get a login popup but the android browser doesnt seem to be capable of this. Ofcourse this was no problem at all with a 2 year old browser... So now I can't check schedules and all.
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Again, hard to blame android for that. Some alternative browser might help (maybe opera mini?).
Also there is no way to stream my favorite internet radio station.
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There is no way to do that or maybe you just don't know a way to do it? Try DroidLive (it might even have this station in its database) or StreamFurious. Both have usable free versions.
Don't get me wrong, I love the speed and all but what good is speed to me if I can't use most of the functions that are important to me? What is even more disturbing is that non of the things I want to do are very special. This should all just work but it seems to be far above what android is capable of.
Basically to me android is a disfunctional OS. If the above things would work, I'd love it but now all I got is speed, but no way of doing the things I want.
Nice try, but not quite it.
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Well, seems to me that you don't really have a problem with android but you just got screwed by HTC and their customized version of android
If i were you, i'd just look for an unofficial rom. It might actually fix all your problems.
Also, part of your woes seems to be the fact that you knew winMo, knew the tweaks and apps you needed to make the device do what you want. Going over to android is a fresh start where you have to find out everything again. I know, i had similar feelings on a stock rom on my G1 after being a hardcore winMo user But after some research and grabbing a new rom and few extra apps android is way more functional than winMo for me and i don't feel like ever going back.
Just give it a chance and do some research.
Android platform has to mature a lot.
WM without xda is a hell.
You really need to find a new ROM. I've never had one single issue you're talking about.
Edit: And I'm using a myTouch running 1.6.
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That's hardly Android error - it just seems to be a bug in the mail client app. Maybe yry another one?
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Could be, though I doubt that. But I might try a different one.
It's not as simple as it sounds
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I know all that. But for me it does not seem to work perfectly. If I disable data connection always on (I never actually completely disable it), it still leaves it open. I checked overnight compared with just totally disabling it and it made a clear difference in the battery charge left. Its not like GPS where the icon actally dissapears when you don't use it but this doesnt happen with 3g so far as I can see it, it still uses more power than when disabling it.
I understand all the google stuff needs it, but I don't use any of it so for me its rather useless.
Again, this seems to be a problem with your rom/app version. I (and many other people) don't have any trouble with YT on android.
As for the HQ, it's turned on automatically when you're on wifi, on a gsm connection it defaults to standard quality. Personally i like this behavior but i agree that there should be an option to change that for people with huge/unlimited data plans.
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I did some more reachers on this and the problems seems to exist on a lot of different models/rom versions. I got the latest 2.1 rom for legend so I should have the latest (v1.5 I believe).
Weird, but also not android bug, just the browser. You might want to try some alternatives (like dolphin, skyfire, opera mini)
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I reacherd a bit more and it seems to be a IIS and android problem. Wm and Iphone have the same problem but they just ignore the IIS message and continue. I tried Opera and it has the same problem. Btw, I think Opera on android is a long way off from Opera on WM. Still missing lots of functions I think.
IIS problem for the website login btw. Not sure why the exchange site doesnt save credentials but that seems to be misconfiguration. For example it wont even work on most desktop browsers either.
Okay, and since when does WinMo display the agenda without any additional software? But i agree, htc really should make some "upcomming events" widget, and default android could use one as well. For now i use "CalWidget" and i know of "pure calendar widget" (paid). I don't know it they're compatible with sense but it may be worth a try
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Yes ofcourse with extra software I will try the apps you posted. Thanks.
There is no way to do that or maybe you just don't know a way to do it? Try DroidLive (it might even have this station in its database) or StreamFurious. Both have usable free versions.
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Thats the problem. They work with their own databases. I just want to load a .pls or m3u file in a player and have it connect.
Well, seems to me that you don't really have a problem with android but you just got screwed by HTC and their customized version of android
If i were you, i'd just look for an unofficial rom. It might actually fix all your problems.
Also, part of your woes seems to be the fact that you knew winMo, knew the tweaks and apps you needed to make the device do what you want. Going over to android is a fresh start where you have to find out everything again. I know, i had similar feelings on a stock rom on my G1 after being a hardcore winMo user But after some research and grabbing a new rom and few extra apps android is way more functional than winMo for me and i don't feel like ever going back.
Just give it a chance and do some research.
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Maybe you are right. I know everything about WM and for me android still has a lot of things beneath its skin I don't know. If the apps I want exist I could fix some of my problems.
But some problems are just android related. The whole website thing is a combination of android and IIS configuration that don't play nice. Nothing HTC can do about this, nor can any custom rom. Its something google needs to fix. Ofcourse, if my uni would change their IIS settings it could also fix the problem but I don't think I can get them to change settings just for me.
For me that really needs to work because its a daily function for me.
Also I wonder if some things can be done. For example in WM you can just select to only use your provider. I still havn't found a way to completely disable roaming on android. Fortunatly its easy to prevent data roaming.

[Q] Use a web cam as the Secondary cam an make Video Chats (Fring, Skype etc.).

Hi Everyone ,
Few days before i started to use an ANDROID phone "HTC DESIRE Z" for the first time. Its pretty cool actually. I really like everything. Bought it from Singapore for $699. There were few misses but its really cool. but i really miss the Front Facing Camera which was in my Nokia N97mini. It helps me to make video chats through 3G by using apps like fring. HTC too should have add a FFCam. I really miss it.
What i want to know is, can’t you connect a web cam through USB and use it as the front facing camera. i have seen microUSB to USB codes too. so as i think you should be able to connect it. But there should be necessary drivers to make a connection. So please let me know if there is a possibility to do this job, so i don’t need to worry anymore thinking about my early phone.
Thanks a lot. I’m posting for the first time. Hope I’m doing it correctly.
Tc,
Romen..

Next Android version?

So as everyone is aware, ICS is coming to the Sensation - however I'm curious as to whether it'll support video calling natively? Clearly it is possible to do, and frankly I was disappointed that HTC didn't take the same initiative as Samsung to put their own video-calling in. But I'd like to see the option there ASAP!
im sure you can use skype and google talk to video call on senny.
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im sure you can use skype and google talk to video call on senny.
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Yes, but it requires the person you're calling to have Skype, or else "skype credit". Ditto for Google, they need the app.
I use tango for video calls
you can video chat with anyone with gmail account and a vid capable computer. (and phones with the app of course).
think it's about as "native" as it's gonna get on google's eco system.
I think the OP is looking for Android to gets it's equivalent to Apple's Facetime.
Right?
as far as im aware Samsung phones dont have own video calling app.
they use google talk and skype too, gtalk being free 100%.
Google Talk would be the most likely equivalent to Apple's FaceTime.
Comes built in with video talk tech on Android 2.3.5
I'm not sure I follow. Idk how much more native you want being that gtalk comes on most Android phones. You look at the iPhone face time is only for I phone 4 now 4s and the iPad and iPod. Maybe the better word he's looking for is deeper integration maybe
Sent from my Sensation using xda premium
ICS source code should be out November 17th, so custom roms will have ICS support soon!
http://www.androidcentral.com/ice-cream-sandwich-source-code-coming-nov-17-says-notion-ink-ceo
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ICS source code should be out November 17th, so custom roms will have ICS support soon!
http://www.androidcentral.com/ice-cream-sandwich-source-code-coming-nov-17-says-notion-ink-ceo
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means new CM will start to be made!
Hopefully we have CM nightlies by January.
I know that this problem/question is many time mentioned but seems that some do not understand the purpose for so called "native video calls support".
Do I have to know what video call application my responder must have installed just to effectively make a video call ? NO it's just lame. Even old nokia phones support video calls NATIVELY, so it's just an excuse of lousy google coders or another limitation between different platforms.
I've often thought this was a bit stupid from Android/HTC's point of view. My old Sony Ericsson could do it.
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Do I have to know what video call application my responder must have installed just to effectively make a video call ?
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Exactly. It should be integrated like making a phone call or sending an SMS. Tap on the person in your contacts and it comes up with another option to video call.
The biggest thing I think should happen is if your on a call to someone you have the option of transferring to video call, just like you can put the call on speaker phone. Full native integration. Hell, I could do this simple transfer on the Sony.
Here's hoping though.

[Q] Best Wifi Calling App

What is the best WiFI calling app for windows phone? It needs to be cross platform to iOS.
From the reviews ive read Viber and Skype dont work at all? is this true? Im heading down to Peru and it would be helpful to make WiFi calls.
Thanks,
Skype and Viber both work fine for me to any platform. Best one varies on time of day, network loads and what country you call.
Not sure where people come up with the loads of misinformation there is about WP8. Possibly due to WP7's patchy support and API's but for general day-to-day usage, WP8 is the same as the rest.
Yep I use Skype all the time with no problems at all.
MobileVOIP is also okay...
I downloaded and installed Skype on my 1020 but I never had chance to test it because I have had to send my phone off for a new screen But before I get it back, What program are you using and when other programs work like Skype?
Skype is the best for me.
Best WiFi Application
wall1142 said:
What is the best WiFI calling app for windows phone? It needs to be cross platform to iOS.
From the reviews ive read Viber and Skype dont work at all? is this true? Im heading down to Peru and it would be helpful to make WiFi calls.
Thanks,
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Line and Skype are the best WiFi Application. I have used both of them on my Nokia Lumia 1020 and also the video clarity is very good.

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