Discrepancy with installed to phone vs SD sizes - Captivate General

Whenever I move an app installed on the phone to the SD card, the amount of space it uses is reported differently.
For example: Robot Unicorn Attack, when installed to the phone, reports using 30 Mb. Once I move that to the SD card, though, it drops to about 500 Kb. That is just one example; every program does this.
Anyone know why it's happening?
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Internal Phone Storage is getting low

So, I now have the internal memory getting low icon in my notifications bar. The system says I have 51megs free. Anyway to get rid of this icon? Other than uninstalling apps or moving them to SD. That doesn't seen low enough to trigger the warning.
Clean the cache?
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Many people are having that issue including me...i can't install even a small app once I get down to 50mb. You can use app to 2sd or a program like it to move any apps that can move to the external sd card.
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Yeah, looks like the low storage alert goes off somewhere close to 50megs. I moved some apps to the SD card to free up space. It is just annoying you can't dismiss the alert. It is like rubbing salt in an open wound. Bad enough the phone has painfully low onboard memory but now I have to look at an alert telling me just how low it is!

[Q] Is there any reason why everytime I reboot I lose half my apps?

It seems whenever I reboot...I notice a bunch of apps gone..I reinstall and then when I reboot again...they either stay or get deleted again.
EDIT: my infuse did this when it was not rooted also. I just now rooted it and had to reinstall a bunch of apps...I did that and rebooted and voila. They are gone again.
Mine resets my wallpaper everytime I reboot :\
matermine said:
Mine resets my wallpaper everytime I reboot :\
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Yeah same here. Gets rid of my live wallpaper everytime.
Rooms?
Are you guys stock?
tyshemi said:
Are you guys stock?
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I was stock and I JUST now rooted it after a couple weeks of having it. It still did this before I rooted. Also my apps constantly force close now.
Fix try
Fee454 said:
I was stock and I JUST now rooted it after a couple weeks of having it. It still did this before I rooted.
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Ok go into settings-applications-all-move apps that are diisapering to the phone close reboot see if that works?
they come back after about 5 minuets or so. its because they are stored on the sd card.
i got used to it.
Does it matter that it says media scanning complete up top and I still dont see them?
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Move all the apps off the SD Card, then remove the SD Card to prevent future apps from being installed to it.
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I have a 32GB SD card which I would like to keep in the phone... :-/ But the apps themselves are on the internal SD I believe. it's odd...my friend doesn't have any of these issues...we both upgraded same day with the infuse. It could be something simple I am just a android noob and plan on living on these forums reading as much as I can.
the disappearing wallpaper is due to the wallpaper being on the sdcard and not phone storage (same device in a physical sense, different partition/device to the os) the ui loads before the sdcard mounts. the media scanner seems to run before the apps are loaded. so it needs to load the default wallpapper to unlock the phone.
the other disappearing apps may be due to the same thing but they should show before you have an opportunity to reinstall them, unless they are somehow on the external sd card and that sd card happens to be a class 2 or something slow like that.
i hate apps to sd for anything other than older phones that have under 512mb of phone storage. it just causes confusion, i dont really know why some apps like to install to the sd card on this phone others dont and it never asks you, this never happened on my captivate.
Dani897 said:
the disappearing wallpaper is due to the wallpaper being on the sdcard and not phone storage (same device in a physical sense, different partition/device to the os) the ui loads before the sdcard mounts. the media scanner seems to run before the apps are loaded. so it needs to load the default wallpapper to unlock the phone.
the other disappearing apps may be due to the same thing but they should show before you have an opportunity to reinstall them, unless they are somehow on the external sd card and that sd card happens to be a class 2 or something slow like that.
i hate apps to sd for anything other than older phones that have under 512mb of phone storage. it just causes confusion, i dont really know why some apps like to install to the sd card on this phone others dont and it never asks you, this never happened on my captivate.
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Hmm...makes sense...I do have a 32gb sd class 2 sandisk card but i've heard mixed things on whether the different classes matter on the Infuse. But yes the apps issue is strange...but they are on the internal SD. Some are on the phone. So moving them all to the phone should fix the disappearing issue?
I just worry about running out of space. phone memory is only 2gb.
Fee454 said:
Hmm...makes sense...I do have a 32gb sd class 2 sandisk card but i've heard mixed things on whether the different classes matter on the Infuse. But yes the apps issue is strange...but they are on the internal SD. Some are on the phone. So moving them all to the phone should fix the disappearing issue?
I just worry about running out of space. phone memory is only 2gb.
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2GB is a pretty huge amount of space for apps so I wouldn't worry about that. Some of the larger games that require downloading extra cache files, like Order & Chaos, save that to a special cache folder that AFAIK doesn't count towards the 2GB internal memory limit (please correct me if I'm wrong).
Does anyone know of a way to disable apps saving to the SD card by default? In other words, how can we ensure that we always save apps to the phone? Saving to SD actually causes one of my favorite apps, SoundHound, to not work correctly as the widget isn't available, even after I move it to the phone memory.
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deanhatescoffee said:
2GB is a pretty huge amount of space for apps so I wouldn't worry about that. Some of the larger games that require downloading extra cache files, like Order & Chaos, save that to a special cache folder that AFAIK doesn't count towards the 2GB internal memory limit (please correct me if I'm wrong).
Does anyone know of a way to disable apps saving to the SD card by default? In other words, how can we ensure that we always save apps to the phone? Saving to SD actually causes one of my favorite apps, SoundHound, to not work correctly as the widget isn't available, even after I move it to the phone memory.
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My current problems are, everytime I reboot my break.com app gets deleted and has to be reinstalled...it won't let me move it to phone memory. Netflix app gets deleted also. When I try to move that to phone is says low memory. I have 1.4gb free on it.
Fee454 said:
My current problems are, everytime I reboot my break.com app gets deleted and has to be reinstalled...it won't let me move it to phone memory. Netflix app gets deleted also. When I try to move that to phone is says low memory. I have 1.4gb free on it.
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That sucks. If it makes you feel any better, sometimes my Infuse will say that I have insufficient memory to install a new app as well, when I have more than 1.5GB free. :-[
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deanhatescoffee said:
That sucks. If it makes you feel any better, sometimes my Infuse will say that I have insufficient memory to install a new app as well, when I have more than 1.5GB free. :-[
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Do you have the new android market? Try uninstalling it and using the old one. It fixed my issue when trying to download apps.
Optimus-Prime said:
they come back after about 5 minuets or so. its because they are stored on the sd card.
i got used to it.
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i hate the delay on loading apps that are on the sdcard. i moved every single app i have on to the phone and dont have to wait 5 minutes to use my phone. apps on the sdcard are also slower and cant include more advanced features like widgets. sadly since theres two sdcards, theres no option to have apps install to the phone by default.
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i hate the delay on loading apps that are on the sdcard. i moved every single app i have on to the phone and dont have to wait 5 minutes to use my phone. apps on the sdcard are also slower and cant include more advanced features like widgets. sadly since theres two sdcards, theres no option to have apps install to the phone by default.
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It's odd...I have moved all the apps I could to my phone memory and since then I have had no problems after reboots except the break.com and netflix app. Not really a big deal it only takes a few seconds to reinstall those. I have waited 5-10 min after bootup for those to come back but they do not. Just a minor annoyance though.
i can imagine big video apps caching to the sdcard.
Actually for whatever reason I was able to move the break app to my phone this time. Only took 20 reinstalls lol
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Internal storage issues

'ello, gents. I just got my first Android phone and I seem to not be able to access 4GB of the internal memory. Under application storage, it has my available space as 4GB+, but won't let me install applications to it. I downloaded the disk usage app and it shows only 561MB total instead of approx 4561MB that should be there. I now have 62MB of internal space left and as I was typing this I got yet another warning that I am out of space. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance.
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I think when I turned on my phone i had roughly 4.5 GB available for usage. I so far have only used up aroun 500 mb. Everything else goes on my 16gb SD card. What all do you have installed on your internal to eat that much space up?
You could always try to wipe the device clean and start brand new.
Well, I have a few apps installed, but my point is that the space isn't being used--it won't let me use it. The phone thinks that there is only 550MB total internal space, and, for some reason, ignores the other 4GB (see the screenshot I posted). I have been throwing everything on the sd card and even ordered a big sd card for this purpose, but I still want to fix this issue. When I try to click on application space under application storage to get some options our something, nothing happens. It looks like I might need to just reinstall from scratch to see if that fixes it. I mostly wanted to see if others were having this issue our if it was a known bug. Thanks again for any insights.
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'ello, gents. I just got my first Android phone and I seem to not be able to access 4GB of the internal memory. Under application storage, it has my available space as 4GB+, but won't let me install applications to it. I downloaded the disk usage app and it shows only 561MB total instead of approx 4561MB that should be there. I now have 62MB of internal space left and as I was typing this I got yet another warning that I am out of space. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance.
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That 4gb of space is specifically for your apps, if ur phone isnt recognizing or accessing it then u need to return it cause its faulty.
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same issue here... 500MB out of 4GB used internal. All the rest of my apps are going on the SD card.
I'm going to see if I can make it over to the at&t store and see what they have to say about it, but if anyone figures out what's going on, let me know. I plan on flashing MIUI as soon as its out, so I don't know if that will resolve the issue, but its probably better to not wait and see.
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I appologize in advance if this is a bit rambling.
I spent some time troubleshooting the issue and it does seem like the Atrix 2 has some difficulty using internal app storage.
Using the default App storage viewer (settings > Applications > storage use) it shows the correct size of 4gig, but using DiskUsage I was only seeing a size of 561MB.
I started to test this by installing apps till i hit the 561MB limit and sure enough at ~560 it started complaining that there was no more room available for some apps and for others it started to install them on the SD card.
So i decided to try and force an app to internal storage. DiskUsage showed 9MB free and I had a 25MB app installed on the SD card. Using the default app manager I moved the app back to the phone and it installed, thus taking up all the free space shown by DiskUsage, but at the same time increasing the size of the disk to accomidate for the overage. All subsequent app installs have gone to the internal storage, increasing the disk size in DiskUsage.
More to come..
How did u move or force install on internal storage?
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I'm going to see if I can make it over to the at&t store and see what they have to say about it, but if anyone figures out what's going on, let me know. I plan on flashing MIUI as soon as its out, so I don't know if that will resolve the issue, but its probably better to not wait and see.
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the legume - did you make it to AT&T and did they have anything to say?
I haven't yet, but using azangerle's idea, I seem to have resolved the issue. It looks like you need to force the phone past the approx 500MB barrier by moving an app to the sd card, filing up the 500MB internal storage and then once the phone says that its out of internal storage, move the app from the sd card back into internal. It will allow it to be copied, and you should be able to use the rest of the 4GB of storage afterwards (I'm almost to 2GB used with apps and haven't had any problems).
I'm still going to ask at&t about it when I can make it over there, but its not as high a priority new that we've found a workaround.
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cloudedhopes said:
How did u move or force install on internal storage?
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If you go to applications > manage applications > and then select an application, you can choose to have the app moved to the sd card (or back to internal)
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Ah OK. Thnx. I see a few tabs there... downloaded, all, on SD card... what does the 'on SD card' mean? I definitely have not moved any to SD and if I go on an application I am still getting the option to move to SD :/
They are only on the SD card if they have the green checkmark, even if they are on the SD card tab. Its very confusing.
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They are only on the SD card if they have the green checkmark, even if they are on the SD card tab. Its very confusing.
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Thanks for clearing that up, I wondered about that cause I know I hadn't moved any apps to my sdcard yet it told me I have a few on there. Maybe because they were installed off of it???
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Thanks for clearing that up, I wondered about that cause I know I hadn't moved any apps to my sdcard yet it told me I have a few on there. Maybe because they were installed off of it???
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Nope I installed it from market. I think these are the ones that can be moved to SD?
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Nope I installed it from market. I think these are the ones that can be moved to SD?
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I was questioning why it showed like that on my phone. I have found some good info though
If you go into manage apps and click on the "on sdcard tab" unless there is a green checkmark next to the app it is not actually on your sdcard. Weird, but that's how it is.
I can live with that. Just wondering what on SD card means...
Has anyone known how to have access to internal storage?
I'd like to copy some movies to it but get "Access Denied"
Is internal storage available for an user???
djyuran said:
Has anyone known how to have access to internal storage?
I'd like to copy some movies to it but get "Access Denied"
Is internal storage available for an user???
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Nope, it is inaccessible, even after rooting.
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Nope, it is inaccessible, even after rooting.
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Thank you for information!
What's the purpose of internal storage?
Is it default place for installation of the new applications?

[Q] Moving apps to the external SD card

Hi all. Let me first say that I love my Blaze. My last phone was the Galaxy S Vibrant I. This phone is quite a bit faster, and I like that it has a flash and front facing camera. The first thing I did was root it, install Titanium Backup and used it to delete the bloatware apps that came pre-installed. One thing I was a bit disappointed in however is the lack of memory.
I know someone else asked this earlier, but I never saw an answer. The phone has its own built-in memory, and an internal usb memory, along with the external sd card. When you want to move an app to the sd card, it puts it on the internal usb card. I haven't found a way (or an app) that will let you move them to the external card. This is an issue since the Blaze comes with a lot less memory than my old Vibrant. For anyone who likes to install games, 1 or 2 games will max out the memory. I chatted with a Samsung rep online and they were clueless. It upsets me a bit that this phone is 2 yrs older than my Vibrant and has so much less internal memory.
Forgive me if I'm wrong but couldn't you just use Root Browser to move the apps? The path to it, I believe is sdcard/external_sd
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And all the apps are in system/app folder.
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So you can just move the apk file manually to the external sd card and it will still work? Its not like a computer where the shortcut will be looking for it in a particular place?
I asked earlier about sending apps to the external sd card.
I am not sure if you can do it with Es or another took, but I dragged and dropped when mounted to a PC. I am now seeing widgets and shortcuts disappear, for apps I didn't even move.
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Widgets installed on SD cards don't work properly, or at all in my experience. It's an android limitation of sorts. I think it's intentional, some sort of side effect with the idiosyncracies (however that is spelled) with what happens to an app if it's running on the sd card and you eject it from the phone or mount it to the computer.
One example of this that I'm familiar with is poweramp. It can be installed to the sd card, but the guy made a widget addon that stays on the phone specifically because if it's loaded on the sd card the widget doesn't work.
And yes, I'm aware that you said it was even for apps that you didn't move.......I'm taking a guess that whatever widget your'e talking about is not actually an app you moved on the sd card, but is RELATED to it, in some way.
Or maybe it's just a case of craziness happening, and it's an achilles heel the phone has.
If that's the case......sigh, I swear my next phone better be straight out of a science fiction movie or I will just be an angry person.
I don't understand why Samsung would make this phone with two internal memory storage devices instead of just one. Whats the use of being able to use a large external card if you can't move apps over to it. The two internal ones are small. They could have just been combined into a bigger one.
Is it normal for some apps on the sd to sometimes not load when disconnecting from the computer or rebooting the phone?
This might help. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1410262
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[Q] HTC One S with CM10 reporting SD card out of space

Just put CM10 on my HTC One S. Everything works great except:
Trying to install a game, it's claiming that my SD card is out of space to install a 1GB package, when really there is 8GB left (the Internal storage also has 1.75GB)
When I try to move apps to SD, I either get "cannot move app" or "not enough disk space". It seems that it's also not consistent which one it gives.
Is this the first time installing that game? If you have it installed before, there might be remaining game files that need to be deleted.
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