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According to a report by DigiTimes, there is a chance that Google will release the next version version of Android OS, the Android 4.0 Jelly Bean just a few months later in the second quarter of 2012! You need to swallow this story with a huge grain of salt as this is still just a speculation. As Android 4.0 has fallen short of the expectations, Google might make the situation up with the release of Jelly Bean. Like ICS, Jelly Bean will also be optimized for Tablets and Netbooks. It could be a strategic play by Google just before the Windows 8 launch in Q2-Q3,2012.
What is interesting about Android 5.0 is, that it’ll possibly include the Google Chrome system. With the help of that, you might be able to run Jelly Ban side-by-side Windows 8 on your tablet. To change the OS, you don’t even have to restart the tablet. OEM-s would have the option of installing only Android 5.0 in a device, or installing it in a device which already has Windows 8 installed. Now, this is kind of… umm… hard to believe! and that’s why the we warned you before…
The moral-of-the-story in this case, is that Google will focus on mainly Netbook and Tablet markets with the release of Android 5.0 Jelly Bean.
But, nothing is impossible. More-likely because of the Google back-end support. What not to expect from the guys who created the world’s most popular website!
[Source - DigiTimes] [VIA - SmartPhoneGeeks]
That seems a bit soon considering ICS is what, 4 months? There's another thread talking about how no phone has been updated yet. Granted, second financial quarter is like middle of the summer or something, but yeesh.
I'm also kind of curious how "Android 4.0 has fallen short of the expectations" when it is the first version to beat the competing iOS in more than half of the reviews.
This is interesting! early aspirations on the next generation Android Operating System are amazing.
As the expectations on adopting Android 4.0 has short fallen, the search giant is ready to launch Android 5.0 Jelly Bean in Q2, 2012. Also, Microsoft is ready to launch Windows 8 in the third quarter 2012. However, there is no such official comment made by Google on the performance of Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich. Based on DigiTimes report, Google is pushing Android 5.0 and Windows 8 hybrids to its manufacturing partners to offer the best of both platforms. So the OEMs might consider the option of offering both the platforms on notebooks, netbooks and tablets.
I'm also kind of curious how "Android 4.0 has fallen short of the expectations" when it is the first version to beat the competing iOS in more than half of the reviews.
wow... jellybean.. it`s seem so nice.... i should try use ics first
sendietera said:
wow... jellybean.. it`s seem so nice.... i should try use ics first
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Yes! Its nice
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8mileroad said:
I'm also kind of curious how "Android 4.0 has fallen short of the expectations" when it is the first version to beat the competing iOS in more than half of the reviews.
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Ask DigiTimes that. Android 4.0 update hasn't even released for all the compatible phones.
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Ask DigiTimes that. Android 4.0 update hasn't even released for all the compatible phones.
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That's right it's a bit of a joke.
almost farcical
this is a joke ... bad enough atm (adding more to the mix could be seen as good) im all for active dev of anything but sometimes to much to soon will eventually end up fracturing it all together
Accroding to this:
http://www.tgdaily.com/mobility-brief/61521-android-50-may-come-in-as-soon-as-six-months
ICS 4.0 has major problems, hence 5.0 release.
Another source: http://www.pcworld.com/article/2501...erating_system_may_arrive_in_spring_2012.html
dr266 said:
Accroding to this:
http://www.tgdaily.com/mobility-brief/61521-android-50-may-come-in-as-soon-as-six-months
ICS 4.0 has major problems, hence 5.0 release.
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What major problems does ICS have???
That article discusses 5.0 being bases on tablets so fixing ICS "problems" is not likely anyway if thats the case and there are problems which I dont see there being to begin with anyway.
I just can't see Google making this business decision in anyway. It makes 0 sense. ICS was praised as the final unification of Android OS tablet/smartphone and going to end the fragmentation issues Google/Android has always been ridiculed of having. It makes no sense to introduce another OS so soon, esp one geared to tablets at that, as it would increase fragmentation 10 fold.
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I'm also kind of curious how "Android 4.0 has fallen short of the expectations" when it is the first version to beat the competing iOS in more than half of the reviews.
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The article seems to be nothing more than a steaming pile of randomized speculatory ****.
It just doesn't make sense - there is no evidence that Android 4.0 is falling short of any expectations, with the exception of the Galaxy Nexus launch being an epic clusterfuck in North America - but ICS is not to blame for that, Verizon is.
As to device upgrades rolling out - it's taking only a little longer for 4.0 to roll out to non-Nexus devices than Gingerbread, which makes sense since 4.0 is a more significant architectural change from 2.3 than 2.3 was from 2.2.
Reading other problems - The issues some have had with updates have nothing to do with ICS and everything to do with some vendors jumping the gun and releasing too soon. Plenty of initial Gingerbread upgrades (and even much later ones!) were epic disasters too - does that mean that Gingerbread has fundamental problems? Nope. The idiots writing these articles seem to have completely forgotten that the Gingerbread rollout was almost the same deal as ICS.
Now if we could have ICS running properly on our devices first...
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Another source: http://www.pcworld.com/article/2501...erating_system_may_arrive_in_spring_2012.html
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Now that's kind of interesting there. ChromeOS on phones and tablets instead of being just netbooks...
Though I could see this I can't imagine that they really push this to many devices so soon...
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we will see not sure if itll come out just yet considering ics is only on few devices officially
This would be awesome if true!
i don't think google might be so foolish to release it so soon.. it'll affect the market pretty badly...
Would be nice if google brings update to ics throughout all the ics devices.
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announced today android 3.1. the sdk is out for it now just thought i would let everyone know dont know if i should put this here or in development.
http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-3.1.html
http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-3.1-highlights.html
Wow some awesome Stuff in 3.1.
Resizeable Home screen widgets
Support for external keyboards and pointing devices
Support for joysticks and gamepads
For example, users can connect Sony Playstation™ 3 and XBox 360™ game controllers
The Gallery app now supports Picture Transfer Protocol (PTP), so that users can connect their cameras over USB and import
Android 3.1 provides built-in platform support for USB host mode
built-in support for raw ADTS AAC content, for improved streaming audio, as well as support for FLAC audio
Support for inline playback of video embedded in HTML5 <video> tag. Playback is hardware-accelerated where possible.
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Wonder if the source code will ever be released or not.
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Wonder if the source code will ever be released or not.
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Of course it will. Google said "open source". Didn't say when, but they did say it was all going to be open source.
Drivers for various bits of hardware might be another story, but eventually Google release source for their stuff.
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Of course it will. Google said "open source". Didn't say when, but they did say it was all going to be open source.
Drivers for various bits of hardware might be another story, but eventually Google release source for their stuff.
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i agree they do but with honeycomb they still havent and the xooms been out how long now.
feb 17th right so that is almost 4 months and still no code.
I doubt they will release the source for it.
ICS will likely be the next big source drop from Google.
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and I'm correct, taken from the roundtable this afternoon:
Q: When are we going to see a general release of Honeycomb?
A: Just for background: we did an internal trick to meet the Honeycomb schedule, we didn’t make it available for phones. So we held back the open sourcing of Honeycomb back so people wouldn’t put it on phones and have a crappy experience… but now that it is done. Ice Cream will be the next open source release and that will be this year.
Q4 of 2011 on Ice Cream Sandwich, per the information given this morning...
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!1
Ill just keep sleeping untill Google really releases something.
well that really does suck that there not going to release it. so im stuck on 2.2 or 2.3.4 on my tablet til then. thanks google. dont get me wrong the devs here have made this thing work great on 2.2 and 2.3.4 but i was really hoping for we are releasing the hc source code today.
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well that really does suck that there not going to release it. so im stuck on 2.2 or 2.3.4 on my tablet til then. thanks google. dont get me wrong the devs here have made this thing work great on 2.2 and 2.3.4 but i was really hoping for we are releasing the hc source code today.
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Eventually is better than never, though.
krypticos said:
i agree they do but with honeycomb they still havent and the xooms been out how long now.
feb 17th right so that is almost 4 months and still no code.
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From what I learned from the first wave of Honeycomb threads, if google decides to release source it will be 30 days from the release of the first device with Honeycomb on it. The official release of the Xoom was Feb. 24th and on Mar. 24th google confirmed that they will not release Honeycomb 3.0.
If that holds true, the Xoom should be getting the 3.1 update today so we should know if the HC 3.1 source code will be released around 6/10/11.
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Eventually is better than never, though.
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QFT, ice cream sandwich sounds awesome and should relatively well for the gTab, assuming we can get the necessary pieces from Viewsonic/Nvidia, etc.
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QFT, ice cream sandwich sounds awesome and should relatively well for the gTab, assuming we can get the necessary pieces from Viewsonic/Nvidia, etc.
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This is insanity. We have tablet version of OS out there, but we want to wait for the Icecream or whatever next best thing? I am niy sure if I want to wait around to enjoy native tablet experience and not the enhanced phone experience.
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At least we have a new sdk to port
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Q: When are we going to see a general release of Honeycomb?
A: Just for background: we did an internal trick to meet the Honeycomb schedule, we didn’t make it available for phones. So we held back the open sourcing of Honeycomb back so people wouldn’t put it on phones and have a crappy experience… but now that it is done. Ice Cream will be the next open source release and that will be this year.
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Can't say I'm not upset about this response. I can't really accept their reason being that people will put it on a phone and get a crappy experience. Of course people will try and if they get a crappy experience, so what? Let them try!
At the very least, they should release it for the people that *do* own an HC device and would like to make modifications. Just stick in a notice that it is tablet oriented and done. And if they're REALLY concerned about people putting it on phones, have an extra clause in caps: "NOT FOR PHONES". I can't imagine that being any worse than completely withholding the source.
What it comes down to is Google wishing this version never existed. But it's already out there! Pretending it doesn't exist just seems irresponsible.
All of this has made me wary of Google. I wouldn't be surprised to see more curve balls in the future of Android.
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well that really does suck that there not going to release it. so im stuck on 2.2 or 2.3.4 on my tablet til then. thanks google. dont get me wrong the devs here have made this thing work great on 2.2 and 2.3.4 but i was really hoping for we are releasing the hc source code today.
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Who needs source code, when the devs really get going?
I guess not everyone is aware that there is a working HC ROM for the G-Tablet being fine-tuned now by Roebeet.
It just started with the Adam devs the other day and Roebeet has released 1.2 already with good bit of functionality (including audio and hardware acceleration.) There is also an Advent Vega port rolling.
Not going to bother with the links the threads are easy enough to find here and at SlateDroid.
I found a file today on Asus' website titled "Eee Pad Kernel Code for Android OS (V8.2.3.9) " in the transformers section. Since the transformer uses HC, could this file be useful to you here? Here's the link minus the hypertext prefix. (Had to do that to get around the spam alert.)
//usa.asus.com/Eee/Eee_Pad/Eee_Pad_Transformer_TF101/#download
On that page, choose android as the operating system, then expand the source code menu. I don't know jack about programming, so if it's useless, be gentle with me.
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Can't say I'm not upset about this response. I can't really accept their reason being that people will put it on a phone and get a crappy experience. Of course people will try and if they get a crappy experience, so what? Let them try!
At the very least, they should release it for the people that *do* own an HC device and would like to make modifications. Just stick in a notice that it is tablet oriented and done. And if they're REALLY concerned about people putting it on phones, have an extra clause in caps: "NOT FOR PHONES". I can't imagine that being any worse than completely withholding the source.
What it comes down to is Google wishing this version never existed. But it's already out there! Pretending it doesn't exist just seems irresponsible.
All of this has made me wary of Google. I wouldn't be surprised to see more curve balls in the future of Android.
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Google is walking a thin line right now, they are under pressure to fix the "fragmentation" of Android, especially by developers, but also from the competition aka the Apple iPhone folks (and their fans in the press), and at the same time they are under pressure from consumers and the open source crowds to stay as open as they have been. I am not taking sides, but they are in a precarious situation right now, who do they please the most, and who do they worry about the least, tough decisions. Then you have Windows Phone 7.1 (Codenamed "Mango") to be announced later this month, and it looks like a VERY good contender. It will be interesting to see how things play out over the next year or two.
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Who needs source code, when the devs really get going?
I guess not everyone is aware that there is a working HC ROM for the G-Tablet being fine-tuned now by Roebeet.
It just started with the Adam devs the other day and Roebeet has released 1.2 already with good bit of functionality (including audio and hardware acceleration.) There is also an Advent Vega port rolling.
Not going to bother with the links the threads are easy enough to find here and at SlateDroid.
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I am thankful to have such awesome and talented people as Robeet out there working for us, and they do it without any compestation other than the enjoyment of doing it and knowing they've contributed to the community. I can't wait for a stable, release candidate of Honeycomb for my gTablet!
I personally just won't purchase any devices that have HC on it starting off until HC is full released by google. Hopefully more of the smart people on here will tell there friends to do the same. If we all did that there would be more pressure (lack of profits) to release HC code ASAP.
Glad I bought a tablet without HC and Market meaning Google hasn't gotten any money from me for Android 3+ and will not until they change their tune about giving all developers the code and not just ones who lick googles feet.
I love Android Ice Cream Sandwich. I love the fluid user interface, the futuristic Holo theme, the aptly named Roboto font and its swipe-able UI elements among many other qualities. Hell, I love it so much that I’ve even started eating more Ice Cream Sandwiches ever since it was announced. ( just joking )
ICS is a completely new direction for Android, it is its first version that has a coherent design vision behind it, and its Director of User Experience, Matias Duarte has outdone himself. The care and love he has put in while designing it was pretty self-evident, that is, until OEM’s got their slimy hands upon its shiny, beautiful interface. ( yeah, Samsung, i am talking to you )
The crux of the matter is that Samsung just started rolling out its ICS update for its most popular smartphone to date, the Galaxy SII. And it is horrendous. Absolutely horrendous. There is nothing intrinsically wrong with it, except the fact that it looks EXACTLY the same as Gingerbread. Samsung have taken a revolutionary update to the Android operating system and turned it into an iterative one, which is behaviour that I cannot, in good conscience, condone. I am surprised that Google is not yet up in arms against such a base defilement of its beautiful child.
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Home Screen of SII on Gingerbread - (Courtesy-GSMArena.com)
Home Screen of SII on ICS - (Courtesy-GSMArena.com)
Samsung’s logic states that it does not want to change an interface that millions of its users have now gotten used to, which, superficially, seems pretty sound. But, the problem is that people were expecting ICS to be an absolutely revolutionary change and as Nokia and Symbian have already shown us, companies should not keep sticking to a familiar UI and ebb the tide of progress while the world around them keeps evolving. It is a cut-throat world right now, you either innovate and move forward or stagnate and die.
Which brings us to future innovation from Samsung. The company is about to introduce its latest flagship smartphone, the Galaxy SIII. The question then arises as to what Samsung shall make of the software atop such a seminal device; will they again cater to legacy users and use the same version of TouchWiz as on the SGS2, or will they completely re-vamp the UI to accompany the new device? As the situation stands, both of the options present potential pitfalls. If they stick to SGS2’s UI, the tech industry at large would be completely disappointed, as Samsung would be the only company to blatantly ignore ICS to such an extent. On the other hand, if they do introduce a new UI, they would be fragmenting their own Android smartphone portfolio.
Samsung has already garnered a reputation for being very flaky with regard to their updates. They decided not to update the Galaxy S to ICS at all and all this further confusion might be a potential nail in Samsung’s coffin for the year 2012. That is just how fast a single bad decision travels among the tech fraternity in these times.
I don’t want to sound like an Apple fanboy, but this is one place where Samsung and the whole Android OEM conglomerate sorely need to learn the ropes from Apple. They update their phones regularly and consistently. You can still pick up the iPhone 3GS, launched 3 years ago and it would still have more or less the same experience as a newly minted iPhone 4S, while in Samsung’s case, every subsequent generation of their flagship ‘S’ line has a monumentally different experience. Come on Sammy, wise up!
The good ole' Galaxy S, is not getting an 'OFFICIAL' ICS upgrade, why? Because according to them, the RAM in phone is not enough to run the touchwiz and the other carrier added crapware, even when the Google Nexus S ca be updated to the latest ICS offering, which essentially have the same hardware.
If you take a look at the homescreen of the S II, one which is still on Gingerbread and the other one which is updated to ICS, you can barely notice any difference between them.
So, in the end, i just want to state that if samsung's gonna include touchwiz n it's next flagship, at least please update the touchwiz so that we can tell any difference between Gingerbread & ICS.
P.S. I want to add a link for a youtube video which shows two S II, kept side-by side, one Gingerbread & one ICS, but the forum rules doesn't allow me to post the link.
I agree, but the reason I don't like TW is not because of fragmentation, but because It's just so extremely ugly. I know this is a personal opinion, but I know many people agree with me and I can't see how Samsung can possibly have missed this and continues to use it.
Also the fact that it is so similar to gb TW is stupid. HTC understood that they had to renew themselves and created a, in my opinion, amazing skin
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yeah! this video, which i want to post, but the forum rules doesn't allow me to do so until i reach the 8 posts.
Anyways, thanks
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I agree, but the reason I don't like TW is not because of fragmentation, but because It's just so extremely ugly. I know this is a personal opinion, but I know many people agree with me and I can't see how Samsung can possibly have missed this and continues to use it.
Also the fact that it is so similar to gb TW is stupid. HTC understood that they had to renew themselves and created a, in my opinion, amazing skin
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yeah, they've completely bungled up the ICS update for S II, only because of the ugly touchwiz. i mean just watch the video once, one can hardly tell the difference between gingerbread & ice cream sandwich, if they want to upgrade the software just to make them look-alike then i guess that their next flagship will be just like their previous, at least when it comes to os
The two biggest cons for me are that Samsung updates horribly slow because of it and that it's plain ugly.
Gingerbread, TouchWiz and Sense are closer to the style of iOS, while Ice Cream Sandwich is closer to the modern Windows Phone 7 style.
I like that much more. The only thing that I find better in WP7 than in iOS and Android is the design of the User Interface.
to be honest I am using a port of the HTC One with Sense 4.0 and Htc did nearly the same thing. If you didnt tell me it was ICS I would think it was gingerbread with a new sense clock widget. I am not sure why the OEMs continue to do this. Maybe samsungs or htcs decisions suite some, but when the first thing I need to do with the HTC port is start yanking apks and adding different launchers to convince myself I am running ICS there is an issue
incredible step backwards. total gingerbread sh!t.
ruins the whole essence of ICS if you ask me.
damn you and your Galaxy Value Pack upgrades too!
I dont want to unlock my phone with my face OK?
Guys you have to understand. We are the 1% of their users. And even some of us prefer ugly UI (MIUI). The OEM will always do this. The UI is their branding on a phone. Most normal users like the way it looks. Personally I have not seem a good looking UI from anyone. All 2 tone colors and flat images. Thank god for custom themes. Lol
If you want regular updates then get a Nexus. When it comes to anything other then the nexus, the carriers have all the control over the updates. (At least in the states)
Some people don't know that you can disable defaults on twlauncher and go to stock launcher instead.
I've made simular comments in the past few months after the first leaked images of the Samsung ICS update.
I argued that what we are seeing is a midcycle update and not the rule of thumb for future devices.
Don't get me wrong, this by no means advocates samsungs decision to strip ICS of its looks and feature set. I'm merely able to understand that many millions of people have bought this phone (millions of very ordinary people) and this isn't like an upgrade from froyo to gingerbread where the notification bar gets changed to black. ICS is a different animal all together.
My mother chose her green screen nokia 3210 over a cybershot Sony Ericsson simply because she wasn't keen on the icon style UI. She has never strayed from nokia since even though they now have icons.
Its a fear of losing customers which has lead to such a timid update and samsung as a brand doesn't have the same innovative swagger as HTC let's say. Where as HTC customers are almost expecting HTC to make everything more glossy and spin around like a disco dancer every two weeks in an update.
My GSII is still amazing with gingerbread. I've changed the launcher which I would have done and will do no matter what they did with ICS. Orange UK will release the ICS update in the coming weeks and my expectations are safely low.
I don't believe this will be the case for the GSIII by the way. Plus I also here that samsung may be the first to offer a choice of the new TW ICS (that's not so locked to the gingerbread experience) and Vanilla ICS.
My fingers are crossed and anyway my next upgrade cycle isn't until next year when jellybean will be out and the GSIV or "the New GS" will be in full swing.
Booooom!
** Most truths were once deemed blasphemy **
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ICS status bar battery is green! need I say more?
maybe they honestly tried, but with that touchwiz camoflauge, I have to do a double/triple take to see ICS.
SGS2:
Lol see the problem is, samsung believes in only changing the interface and adding true new features in their next flagship phone, unlike iOS where the new interface changes show up on older models. Samsung i hate you, and not by opinion but because i have the tab 8.9 and captivate and you havent done anything to fix their various bugs etc, so i have to rely on custom romsol
It's embarrassingly bad.
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I guess the rational is that too radical a change would upset the uninformed users
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ICS not support ad-hoc!!!
using ICS only 1 hour and i flash it back to gingerbread 2.3.6, at least my gb 2.3.6 can connect to ad-hoc network and ics CAN NOT!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=24766415
yeah, samsung are just careless when coming to device maintaining, but i don't care as long as there are devs that make ports and roms that i love, and samsung releases sources !!!
I agree, I have not had a stock firmware on any of my android devices for longer than a day or so in years. I guess that is actually a pretty hurtful statement to the OEMs software though
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Hi, what are the steps to do so?
Thanks
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Recently some internal informant had access to a Nexus tablet, and had decided to do a benchmark on it. We have received the result from the benchmark and they are naturally pretty well. The “Google Asus Nexus 7″‘s benchmark were also very informative on the hardware that the tablet includes.
Google’s $199 “Nexus tablet“, appeared online this week in Rightware’s Basemark ES 2.0 Taiji benchmark test. Most of the details revealed in the benchmark match up with what was previous reported. The device will be made by ASUS, feature a 7-inch display with 1280×768 resolution, and use NVIDIA’s quad-core Tegra 3 processor.
What’s new in this benchmark result is the Android version 4.1. Rightware tells us this is the only device they have ever seen to include Android 4.1. The device also featured a software build number JRN51B, which is important because J represents Jelly Bean.
The device also has the model name listed as “Nexus 7″, which could be the final product name.
Some of us had speculated that Jelly Bean would be a major release and become Android 5.0, but this new evidence suggest it will be more of a minor update and be labeled Android 4.1. We reached out to a second source who claims to have seen the Nexus tablet, and they also said it was running Android 4.1.
Details are still limited, but we are told that Android 4.1 will feature a user experience very similar to Amazon’s Kindle Fire. The device will feature multiple home screens that are dedicated to different types of content (music, movies, books, etc).
We are just a month away from Google IO, when this “Nexus tablet” is expected to be revealed, so look for more details to leak over the coming weeks.
Hopefully these benchmarks are from different tablet as I would like to have 9.7-10.1 inch tablet instead of 7-inch which is only a bit larger than Galaxy Nexus
i'll love to have this tablet.. the price fits perfect to my budget.. but i have to say that.. Android it's going way too fast.. i think ICS it's good.. (REALLE good) and if u pull out a new ver. so fast.. you won't let all of your users taste that great SO call it ICS.. If the SO sucks.. i understand.. but it's great.. relax android.. we are just having fun with ics..
Yeah, it's great idea but ...
Now in the GT-I9001 is already 4.0.3 without STABLE camera and we wait ... too long for it. Now ? 4.1 is new challenge for our developers ... and we need to wait another long time for it ...
The thing its not that we wait too long for the devs (not complaining at all) it's just that their going too fast.. that will bring problems to the devs of roms and apps.. not all the apps are ICS compatible.. if they start to doit too quickly will bring problems.. (personal thought)
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Thank god the tablet isn't 16:9. I'm really looking forward to it.
Edit: I spoke way too fast. It is 16:9, with a little added height for the nav bar. Unfortunate really.
TRDuarteH said:
The thing its not that we wait too long for the devs (not complaining at all) it's just that their going too fast.. that will bring problems to the devs of roms and apps.. not all the apps are ICS compatible.. if they start to doit too quickly will bring problems.. (personal thought)
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This is wrong. Apps will be fine with the move to Jellybean. It is just the fact that ICS was such a major upgrade to merge the tablet and mobile OS. That is the reason some apps are weird. And now that you say that, I can't think of an app that is incompatible with my Gnex. Don't expect Jellybean to look different than ICS...people around here have some weird expectations. Google isn't going to completely revamp their software every year...
Of course i don't think google will come up with a major update.. there's not sense at all.. but what i mean is.. is it really necessary?.. in my opinion.. no.. just personal.. i prefer one major update.. than a lot of little updates.. we can be happy 'cause the devs are great.. but.. those who prefer to wait for oficial updates from their manufacturers?. If we (those who try a lot of third party roms) wait some time.. it's nothing compare with the waiting for those who prefer stock roms.. i just know that I want that tablet..
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TRDuarteH said:
Of course i don't think google will come up with a major update.. there's not sense at all.. but what i mean is.. is it really necessary?.. in my opinion.. no.. just personal.. i prefer one major update.. than a lot of little updates.. we can be happy 'cause the devs are great.. but.. those who prefer to wait for oficial updates from their manufacturers?. If we (those who try a lot of third party roms) wait some time.. it's nothing compare with the waiting for those who prefer stock roms.. i just know that I want that tablet..
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Listen. Ice Cream Sandwich has been on 4.0.1, 4.0.2, 4.0.3 and 4.0.4. All Jellybean means is they decide to call it 4.1 instead of say....4.0.8. Most users can't tell what software they are on anyway. My wife's Sensation just got ICS 2 weeks ago in an OTA. She can't tell the difference.
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Listen. Ice Cream Sandwich has been on 4.0.1, 4.0.2, 4.0.3 and 4.0.4. All Jellybean means is they decide to call it 4.1 instead of say....4.0.8. Most users can't tell what software they are on anyway. My wife's Sensation just got ICS 2 weeks ago in an OTA. She can't tell the difference.
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LOLOL
lowandbehold said:
Listen. Ice Cream Sandwich has been on 4.0.1, 4.0.2, 4.0.3 and 4.0.4. All Jellybean means is they decide to call it 4.1 instead of say....4.0.8. Most users can't tell what software they are on anyway. My wife's Sensation just got ICS 2 weeks ago in an OTA. She can't tell the difference.
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Can't agree with you.. the way all the numbers are put on the codenames.. or versions (call it the way you wan it) every one of those have their explanation.. it's not that simple.. Google won't call it Jelly Beam just because they don't want to keep updating ICS.. and they prefer to call it other way.. i know there are a LOT of ppl who can't know the difference from ver. to ver. I just gotta wait.. and see what Jelly Beam would be.. 'cause at the end of all.. if it's better we all gonna update aour devices.. if not.. we stay on ICS.. (sorry if i have some gramatical or otographic errors, my native lenguage it's Spanish.. and i learn english by myself)..
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All I hope is that Asus also releases their MeMO 370T separately. I'm willing to pay an extra $50 or so for a bit better display or something along those lines.
Definitely buying it
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case for sticking with Jelly Bean until 2013
Android followers, more than most smartphone communities, are constantly focused on the future, be it the next major OS update, or the next big smartphone from HTC, Samsung or Motorola. So with Android 4.1 Jelly Bean due to be open-sourced in a matter of weeks, some are already pontificating on what might be coming in the next version of Android, rumored to be nicknamed “Key Lime Pie.”
Conventional wisdom suggests that, just like Gingerbread in 2010 and ICS in 2011, the next version of Android could make an appearance sometime in the fourth quarter of 2012. But the current state of the Android ecosystem indicates that this might not be the best course of action for Google, its OEMs or their customers. In this article, we’ll take a brief look at why Google should stick with Android 4.1 until 2013, and push Android forward with hardware, not software later in the year.
Android is in a great place in 4.1
Jelly Bean is the best version of Android yet. Sure, every version of Android is the best yet at launch. But in Jelly Bean, Google has directed a laser-like focus on a key weakness of its platform compared to the Apple and Microsoft-based competition. Android 4.1 saw Google “declare war on lag,” and employ a number of high-tech tricks to vastly improve the speed and responsiveness of the OS. On the Galaxy Nexus, the result is striking -- update to Jelly Bean, and it’s like a different phone. If Android can deliver this kind of performance on the Galaxy Nexus’s year-old internals, just imagine the kind of speed we can look forward to once this year’s HTC and Samsung flagships get their updates.
In addition, a wealth of new APIs have been introduced in Jelly Bean, and not all of them have fully fleshed-out UIs (one example being the new app stack navigation stuff). So it's possible that new user-facing "features" like this could be switched on through a minor OTA, or a new Google app in the Play Store. Speaking of which, it's also worth considering that almost all of the major Google apps -- the latest being the default browser, Chrome -- can now be updated separately via Google Play without a major firmware update.
In other words, Android is in a great place right now, and as such there’s no need to rush towards the next major release before the end of 2012.
Jelly Bean is very new, and updates take time
As we’re all aware, manufacturers and carriers will need time to get Jelly Bean out onto their armada of existing Gingerbread and ICS devices. That process starts when Jelly Bean is open-sourced, something which is expected to take place in mid-July. Were Google to deliver the usual one-two punch of a new Nexus and a new platform revision in Q4, it’d mean putting out the next version of Android a mere four months after Jelly Bean, just as the 4.1 updates are starting to roll out. (And spare a thought for owners of the three CDMA Nexus phones, which have lagged far behind their more developer-friendly GSM cousins.)
The mobile world moves quickly, but Google would do itself no favors by delivering this kind of lightning-fast turnaround on a major new OS version. Ultimately, it’d only frustrate manufacturers and end-users alike by perpetually keeping them one or two platform versions behind the bleeding edge. Google has to be aware that slow update times for existing handsets are a serious issue, and it seems it’s trying to address them with initiatives like the PDK (Platform Development Kit). Announced at Google I/O, this gives manufacturers early access to portions of code to assist in porting it to their own hardware. In spite of this, updates still take time, and it’d make no sense for Google to exacerbate things by prematurely obsoleting Jelly Bean.
But that doesn’t mean we won't see a new Nexus smartphone built from the ground up around Android 4.1...
The next Nexus can compete on hardware
Android needs a new Google-branded hero device to go up against the iPhone 5 this fall and into the holiday season, not to mention the impending onslaught of Windows Phone 8 devices. If last year (and the year before it) is any indication, that’ll be a new Nexus phone. Maybe we'll even see multiple Nexii, as has been rumored, although we’re still not 100 percent convinced of that. Regardless of whether a new version of Android appears, we can be pretty sure that a fourth-generation Nexus will arrive later this year, designed by Google and one of the leading smartphone manufacturers.
This year’s Google I/O conference left us in no doubt that “Nexus” is now a mainstream consumer brand. Sure, Nexus phones and tablets will always be unlockable, and we’ll be able to hack away at them as we always have. But as Google’s focus has moved to its Google Play content ecosystem, Nexus has changed from a range of niche developer devices to a brand which, in the company’s own words, means “the best of Google.”
This makes hardware more important than ever, and given the Nexus brand’s renewed importance to Google, we can’t imagine them leaving the year-old Gnex to fly the Nexus flag against the iPhone 5. So there’ll be a new Nexus, and we think it’ll be differentiated by hardware more than software. Naturally, we’d expect improved internals, build quality, display and camera tech, and Jelly Bean should come into its own on such a flagship Google phone. Incidentally, the next iPhone looks set to follow a similar pattern, with hardware features like a new chassis design and widescreen display likely to turn more heads than any software improvements in iOS 6.
But affordability will also be key, especially if Google intends to continue selling directly to consumers through its Play devices store. And so if earlier rumors of multiple Nexus phones come to pass, it’s possible we may see both entry-level and high-end Nexii at varying price points before the year’s out. Another possibility is that Google may reposition the Galaxy Nexus as a budget offering.
Jelly Bean is a big enough deal
More updates are almost always a good thing, and with Jelly Bean's status as a "point release," it's understandable to see some looking past it to the next major version. But the 4.1 update is of incredible importance to those who care about having a fluid, responsive UI that's on par with the latest devices from Apple, and that alone makes it a big deal. Remember that more than half of active devices remain on Android 2.3 Gingerbread or older versions, then consider how momentous an upgrade to 4.1 would be for them. We'd rather Google gave everyone a chance to catch up and enjoy the buttery goodness of Jelly Bean, even if it means waiting a little longer for a slice of Key Lime Pie.
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go write! i thought 4.1 was more of a slight update....4.0 to 4.1 not 5.0
If the users care so much about having always the latest update, then go on, root your phone, and install a custom rom. There is most probably an ICS port four almost any mainstream device that ran Froyo/Ginger out of the box.
As far as this article goes, the dense updating is only bad for the vendors, that are supposed to port the new version to their phones. For us users, especially for geeks like us in XDA, this updating is only a good thing.
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As I've said elsewhere, Sony, HTC, and Samsung seem pretty dedicated to keeping the majority of their phones up to date. As long as they continue that focus and keep releases to a streamlined number of devices per year then there seems to be no issue. With the improvements that have come via ICS and Jellybean I see nothing wrong with keeping up with the current pace.
more platform and apps needs to fix with the current and present version. so i think they pause for a while to create the best one to correct the past version issue..
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more platform and apps needs to fix with the current and present version. so i think they pause for a while to create the best one to correct the past version issue..
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I completely agree. Google needs to tap the brakes on its updates if fragmentation across devices are to be tamed. I imagine if the pace continues a streamlined user experience will cease to exist since developers would have to to stretch support/compatibility across an insurmountable amount of Android versions.
I say we open and share the whole pack of jellybeans before we enjoy the temptation of Key lime pie.
0.o thought this looked familiar, then I realized it was writted by someone from AndroidCentral.
Could you give proper credit?
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"not to mention the impending onslaught of Windows Phone 8 devices"
LOL, I just spat my coffee on the table... Like the Windows Phone 7 onslaught. Don't make me laugh. WIndows Phone is dead.
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"not to mention the impending onslaught of Windows Phone 8 devices"
LOL, I just spat my coffee on the table... Like the Windows Phone 7 onslaught. Don't make me laugh. WIndows Phone is dead.
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I don't think Windows phone is dead, but the futur tell us...
First of all before releasing this Android 4.1 Jelly Bean update, Google should have made sure that around 75% of High-end/Mid-End devices should have got the Android 4.0 ICS update officially.
Only 20%(approx) has got ICS update officially.
I only think devices like Galaxy S3, Htc One X, Lg Optimus 4X, Xperia S...and many more new devices which will comeout this year will get the Jelly bean update officially or maybe JB running by stock.
I cant hope that Galaxy S2 will get this update officially but lets see what happens...
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The forthcoming smartphone collaboration between Google and LG, dubbed the Optimus G Nexus, is being lined up to debut as early as November, according to recent reports.
Popular mobile blog Android and Me has pinpointed next month for the launch of the new device and, more interestingly, also claimed that the new Nexus handset will be used by Google as a platform to launch a new version of Android, likely numbered 4.2. Well my birthday also comes in November Anyway, Android and Me has obtained its information from a "regular source who has provided accurate information in the past."
The Optimus G Nexus will be a tweaked version of the Optimus G (pictured, top) smartphone, unveiled by LG last month. That device arrived pre-loaded with Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich, but speculation is now rife that one of the primary changes to the new, Nexus-branded handset will be its showcasing of a new Google mobile OS.
Indeed, further reports indicate that the new device won't just feature an incremental Android upgrade, but will also be compatible with Google's next big mobile OS leap: Android 5.0, thought to have been dubbed Key Lime Pie, which is being tipped for an autumn-2013 launch.
There's no word of what clever confectionery-related code name version 4.2 might get – personally, we'd like to see a bit of a nod to Android's UK fanbase via a playful moniker like Rice Pudding, Treacle Tart or even Deep Fried Mars Bar. Realistically, though, given Google's US heritage, it's likely to be closer to Marshmallow, Gummy Bear, or even – given its arrival at the beginning of the festive season - Candy Cane.
Android's pudding-like code names are - to date, at least - in alphabetical order. With version 5.0 set to keep with that tradition - the dessert buffet's next stop is thought to be a slice of Key Lime Pie - it seems likely that Android 4.2 will in fact stick with the Jelly Bean moniker, and possibly even be dubbed Android 4.1.2 to avoid undue confusion. Thanks to Alex for wiping the sleep dust out of our eyes.)
In terms of spec, the Optimus G Nexus is likely to closely resemble the LG Optimus G. That device is a true powerhouse smartphone, featuring a 4.7in display with a resolution of 1280 x 768 pixels at 317 PPI. It alos sports an impressive quad-core Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 processor in the engine room, and boasts one of the most impressive smartphone cameras on the market, coming equipped with a 13-megapixel primary snapper.
Despite rumours of the impending Android update, roll out of the more recent iterations of Google's mobile OS continues to progress slowly. Recent statistics show that while deployment of Ice Cream Sandwich and Jelly Bean is increasing, the most popular version is still 2.3 Gingerbread, which appears on almost 56 per cent of all Android devices. ICS now features on some 23 per cent of Android toys, while Jelly Bean lags well behind with a meagre deployment of just 1.2 per cent
We can only wait and see!
Are there already any improvements or "big-bang" innovations known
Looks like I have a new Christmas present well I'm hoping atleast!
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Alphabetical
Just thought you should know, Google follows alphabetical order for its releases:
Froyo
Gingerbread
Honeycomb
Ice Cream Sandwich
Jelly Bean
So the next one needs to start with K.
according to Modaco, this is coming with a non-removable battery, 8/16 GB storage options, obviously no external sd card. 2 gig ram, android 4.2, and an 8mp camera.
hopefully, the other manufacturers have some better options for their nexus certified devices.
ot/ i feel like time is moving so slowly...ICS on the galaxy nexus was showcased on 10/19/11. That seems so far away now..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DZACK_Q4ro&feature=plcp
Here is a video that puts all the rumors into one thing.
Its an LG phone. It's going to suck. No Thanks.
Good to have another nexus manufacturer!
It's LG, I'm out. My experience with a granted, budget LG Shine+ pretty much guarantees it. Frequently would just freeze, drop wifi, etcetera and sent it away for repair. Came back with the same problems, and reading the forums it wasn't exactly an unheard of problem.
I also want a removable battery, and microsd. Really, is that so hard to ask?
I think if google is gonna be handling the software and accepting the hardware design it's gonna be an alright phone
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the g2x was a disaster. lg smart phones have always been horrific. going with lg i'm sure they will have influence. but it will also deter many experienced users
Even though LG is not one of my favourite brands I'm seriously considering of getting the new LG Nexus, specs seem quite promising.
will it be as bulky as the rest of the nexus series ? that's a turn off.
I think lg is getting much better with lg optimus g. I hope the nexus will be as good as optimus g.