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Anyone having problems with this app?
I've disabled certain apps from starting up, for instance my app called "app control". I don't see why that would need to startup with the phone.
The app is disabled from startup but then everytime I use the app, it will randomly quit. Every time.
The same thing happened with the gallery app, messaging app, & maps. Unfortunately I cannot uninstall/refund it so I hope this thread helps someone looking for a good app to stop startup processes and/or motivates the dev to do something about it.
You might want to look into autostarts, but it is just as bad, with its own quirks.
I'm basically down to advanced task manager and a seperate task killer.
ya i was using it for a while, but then I decided that it's better to simply use a task killer app instead of trying to use this app. especially because the startup auditor takes up memory to run in the background anyway =X
Came from an x10, where every app would close when i ran atk...now gbaroid, pandora, last.fm, all stay running... whats up?
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It seems that the API for killing tasks has changed under Froyo. According to other task killers I've used, you can no longer directly kill an app from another app. Only the 'settings' page can do that.
I generally use Free Advanced Task Manager. It will "attempt" to kill the background process of the app, but admits this is not reliable. Otherwise it will take you to the Application Management tab of the specific app your are trying to kill and let you manually kill it from there.
Also note that there is no consensus that killing apps to free memory makes your device faster. By caching programs in memory, android is able to execute them faster when called upon. By killing them, you are forcing the OS to reload them (slower) when needed).
You might be better served by looking into some of the tweaks out there that set the memory management system of the OS into a more aggressive mode. The proper settings will find a nice balance between killing off apps/free memory, and letting the cache system take care of itself.
KILL the TASK KILLER.....
If you can kill the task you can force close it. Long hold on the app, then select force close and it should do the trick. Ive had that issue too but force closing should work with most apps.
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Is there a way to make a shortcut to the default app manager?
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kdkinc said:
KILL the TASK KILLER.....
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Agreed, Task killers are a total waste in the Android environment. I've found over the years my devices runs better, faster, and has better battery life when I stopped using a Task killer.
will2live said:
Agreed, Task killers are a total waste in the Android environment. I've found over the years my devices runs better, faster, and has better battery life when I stopped using a Task killer.
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This is correct. The "nervous system" (so to speak) is built on process management. I'll try to explain it as quickly and as plainly as I can
On a computer and some other devices, you want to close an application when you are finished with them, because a running program will continue to draw on system resources even when you aren't using it. This is not the case with Android. When an app is not running/in use (best example: pandora. running=on the screen, in use=streaming music in the background), it is in a "frozen" state. While the app appears to be taking up memory, the allocated space isn't actually being used. Instead, it's reserved for that application. So while the memory is not "free", it is also NOT being used constantly.
Task killers are useful if you download an app that causes your system to slow, that way you can kill it then remove it. But most apps are going to open themselves back up in a few minutes anyway, and they are designed to do so.
Summary: over a long period of time, frequent task killing will drain more battery than it saves.
The5ickne55 said:
Is there a way to make a shortcut to the default app manager?
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long press on blank homescreen>shortcuts>settings>manage applications
So I noticed this the other day going through my running apps. Upon a reboot, without opening any apps, I noticed that half my app drawer was open. So I manually forced stopped all of them, which naturally quickened my phone and seemed to help battery. I just don't understand why this is happening?
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Common problem with Android, I had same problem with every Android device I've had. That's why we have task killer apps, though this is something the OS should do anyways
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It isn't a problem with android. It is the way android works. It keeps things ready to be opened if needed. If you close them manually they will just restart using up memory and your battery. Task killers aren't good for much except in rare cases of force closing crashed apps.
And this should probably be in the general section not development.
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My bad, I put it here cuz I thought it may have been because I'm rooted running debloat. Never had that problem on my dx or if I did I didnt notice. Anyway thanks for the responses
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adamd1169 said:
It isn't a problem with android. It is the way android works. It keeps things ready to be opened if needed. If you close them manually they will just restart using up memory and your battery. Task killers aren't good for much except in rare cases of force closing crashed apps.
And this should probably be in the general section not development.
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see I don't agree with that at all. When using froyo, task killers are a must. And these apps don't just "reopen" if I kill them all in my task killer and come back 20 mins later, maybe an app or two has opened, but not the 30 when my phone first boots.
Gingerbread is a whole different story.
Yeah I notice when using task killers my battery life is drastically increased. And has been with all 6 Android phones I have had. And if those app running don't drain battery why do most Verizon employees install task killer for u at purchase?
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thetwiztidfreak said:
And if those app running don't drain battery why do most Verizon employees install task killer for u at purchase?
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Because the retail-monkeys are morons and don't know any better.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=688513
I use an app called Autorun Manager. It will tell you which apps automatically start and lets you disable them. The nice thing - it tells you which one's are self-restarters. Don't disable them because they will restart & slowly kill your battery as they fight the killing (just as they would any other task manager).
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I use an app called Autorun Manager. It will tell you which apps automatically start and lets you disable them. The nice thing - it tells you which one's are self-restarters. Don't disable them because they will restart & slowly kill your battery as they fight the killing (just as they would any other task manager).
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Now that sounds like a useful app will have to check it out thx.
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thetwiztidfreak said:
Common problem with Android, I had same problem with every Android device I've had. That's why we have task killer apps, though this is something the OS should do anyways
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Completely, 100% inaccurate....this is not a "problem", it is the way the OS is supposed to operate. This isn't Windows, it's linux.
Okay, maybe not 100% inaccurate. There are the occasional rogue apps that you'll improve performance on by killing them, but they're not the rule.
Along with Autorun Manager to stop apps from opening on start, I'd suggest using AutoKiller Memory Manager from the same author: https://market.android.com/details?id=com.rs.autokiller
Probably the worst named app ever, because it makes people think it is something that it isn't. It's not a task killer, per se, it's a way to tweak the settings in Android that control Android's own memory management scheme. MinFreeManager is another one. If your handy with the terminal, you can do the same with a cat command.
For a much better explanation of how Android works in this regard, check out this blog post: http://www.androidcentral.com/fine-tuning-minfree-settings-improving-androids-multi-tasking
distortedloop said:
Along with Autorun Manager to stop apps from opening on start, I'd suggest using AutoKiller Memory Manager from the same author: https://market.android.com/details?id=com.rs.autokiller
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Yeah...I forgot about AutoKiller...I've had Gingerbread on my Eris for the last 3 months
Just switched over from the vibrant does anyone know how to get that task manager from the vibrant u know the one where u long press the home button and the task manager comes up I would really apreciate some ones help on this
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Just switched over from the vibrant does anyone know how to get that task manager from the vibrant u know the one where u long press the home button and the task manager comes up I would really apreciate some ones help on this
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This doesn't sound like a feature of this phone. There are task managers out there if that's what you're asking about.. (apps). I just tried it on my phone adn I got a "Recent Tasks" list.. if that's what you mean?
I, don't want to see, my, recent tasks I want to, be able to kill apps eating my battery in the background
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there are task killers that you can download from the app store.. i.e. advance task killer.
But, you are mis-guided to think that these apps are killing your battery. On the contrary, a task killer kills the battery more than just leaving the tasks alone. Every time you kill a dormant app, you are using CPU, which eats battery. Then when the app starts up again? Eating CPU again.
It is better to freeze apps or remove them using the Titanium Backup app, then leave the others alone. Imagine killing apps 10 times a day.. Killing an app that is just sitting there, doing nothing to your battery. 10x a day, you are spiking the battery into action. Then when the app starts up again? Spiking the battery.
Do some reading on this. Task killers are a thing of the past.. They work ok if you have an app running wild, bogging down your phone (but you still can force close it in the settings > apps).
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there are task killers that you can download from the app store.. i.e. advance task killer.
But, you are mis-guided to think that these apps are killing your battery. On the contrary, a task killer kills the battery more than just leaving the tasks alone. Every time you kill a dormant app, you are using CPU, which eats battery. Then when the app starts up again? Eating CPU again.
It is better to freeze apps or remove them using the Titanium Backup app, then leave the others alone. Imagine killing apps 10 times a day.. Killing an app that is just sitting there, doing nothing to your battery. 10x a day, you are spiking the battery into action. Then when the app starts up again? Spiking the battery.
Do some reading on this. Task killers are a thing of the past.. They work ok if you have an app running wild, bogging down your phone (but you still can force close it in the settings > apps).
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^ This.
Froyo and up have built in memory managers meaning if the OS needs more memory it will automatically kill idle apps. I too have a Vibrant and I can for sure say that the G2x handles memory much better than the Vibrant does. If you ARE experiencing lagg or battery drain its probably a badly coded app in which case you're better off uninstalling it.
Hi,
I occassionally kill an app to free up resources via the built in HTC task manager. But, i also noticed that under the manage apps menu, when you click on an app, some of them allow you to press force stop if they are running.
I am confused though, becaue for example i never use slacker or google maps, yet these 2 apps give me the option to force stop. yet, some apps i use frequently do not have the force stop option (its greyed out).
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Freeze or remove the apps that you don't use, as long as they're not system apps. Check and be sure you know what it does before removing. Task manager apps are not really needed for Android 2.2+. I use the one in the pull down on occasions when I know my phone will be on stand-by for a while so nothing is running in the bg. You should be good. TiB is good for removing and freezing apps, but if you don't wanna pay, you can always disable them via adb.
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Don't kill apps to free up memory. Android will relocate the memory for you if necessary.
The only time I use the task manager is as a quick way to restart an app.
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dr.m0x said:
Don't kill apps to free up memory. Android will relocate the memory for you if necessary.
The only time I use the task manager is as a quick way to restart an app.
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I sometimes find myself wanting to kill an app that leaves GPS running, etc...
dr.m0x said:
Don't kill apps to free up memory. Android will relocate the memory for you if necessary.
The only time I use the task manager is as a quick way to restart an app.
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Hi, what is the objection of killing apps via Task Manager in Sensation? I am coming from Windows Mobile and therefore have used to kill apps after closing them.
DJouneyt said:
Hi, what is the objection of killing apps via Task Manager in Sensation? I am coming from Windows Mobile and therefore have used to kill apps after closing them.
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Basically anything Android 2.2+ handles applications. Closes them after the appropriate period of time. Ends all processes related to the app unless it had a background service that runs.
Task killer abruptly shuts down the app and doesn't let the Android OS do the job. Earlier on 1.5/1.6 days it was definitely needed because Android didn't handle it as well.
If you have to force stop or task kill make sure your task killer isn't set to auto kill. Also I do kill apps occasionally via Force Stop when the app isn't working. Usually facebook app does this at times or words with friends.
DJouneyt said:
Hi, what is the objection of killing apps via Task Manager in Sensation? I am coming from Windows Mobile and therefore have used to kill apps after closing them.
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It isn't really necessary to "free up resources" in Android. Apps that have been dormant for some time or are unnecessary are closed automatically when memory is required. Often apps that are force closed will simply be reopened by the system, which actually has a negative impact on battery life.
Ok I been using advance task killer since I got android I'm using 2.3.4 I have auto kill on 30mins I use it to save battery, are u guys telling me i don't need it?
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relldroid said:
Ok I been using advance task killer since I got android I'm using 2.3.4 I have auto kill on 30mins I use it to save battery, are u guys telling me i don't need it?
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You most definitely do not need it.