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Hi I have just got a Desire S and its on H Boot 2.00.0002
Now I have looked at this guide- {GUIDE} Root Desire S hboot 2.00.0002 android 2.3.5 the easy way
and i am still un clear as to whether this will S-off the Desire S or is there a better way?
Any pointers for me would be good thanks
Nexus04
Nexus04 said:
Hi I have just got a Desire S and its on H Boot 2.00.0002
Now I have looked at this guide- {GUIDE} Root Desire S hboot 2.00.0002 android 2.3.5 the easy way
and i am still un clear as to whether this will S-off the Desire S or is there a better way?
Any pointers for me would be good thanks
Nexus04
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You need S-OFF if you want to change the hboot/bootloader or the radio. SInce you have the latest versions of both it is not necessary at this moment. In you need to S-OFF by any reason it is possible via downgrading to older version that is supported by Revolutionary.
If you unlock the bootloader with HTCDev.com you will remain S-ON but will have the ability to flash custom Recovery, Kernel or ROMs and rooting as well. So basically you have the freedom to change your system according to your preferences
Hi thanks for the reply,
so it`s not neccessary to S-off to be able to root the phone? I will do some more reading before I take the plunge as I do not want to brick my new phone
Cheers Nexus04
Nexus04 said:
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so it`s not neccessary to S-off to be able to root the phone? ...
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Exactly.
Basically you will need to unlock your hboot at htcdev.com, then flash a custom recovery then
1) flash Superuser to have root or
2) flash a custom ROM, they are all prerooted
amidabuddha said:
Exactly.
Basically you will need to unlock your hboot at htcdev.com, then flash a custom recovery then
1) flash Superuser to have root or
2) flash a custom ROM, they are all prerooted
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What about relocking hboot?
Thanks for your input into this thread by the way, I was led to believe according to the guide section that you must be s-off (therefore downgrade from 2.00.0002) in order to flash custom roms.
dontjudgemekk said:
What about relocking hboot?
Thanks for your input into this thread by the way, I was led to believe according to the guide section that you must be s-off (therefore downgrade from 2.00.0002) in order to flash custom roms.
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AFAK re-locking the bootloader is necessary only when you want to run a RUU (to restore the Stock configuration if needed)
amidabuddha said:
AFAK re-locking the bootloader is necessary only when you want to run a RUU (to restore the Stock configuration if needed)
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Just in case I was to send my device for a warranty fix or such!
Unlocking the bootloader at htcdev will void your warranty.
I am patiently waiting for May 2012 for my warranty to be over and then I will unlock my boot loader..
As said the htcdev unlock void your warranty, it will send the info of your phone to HTC.
You can do the HBOOT downgrade http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1399331 and use Revolutionary to get S-OFF and if you need the warranty you can use eng hboot and flash a new RUU to get back to stock and S-ON.
amidabuddha said:
You need S-OFF if you want to change the hboot/bootloader or the radio. SInce you have the latest versions of both it is not necessary at this moment. In you need to S-OFF by any reason it is possible via downgrading to older version that is supported by Revolutionary.
If you unlock the bootloader with HTCDev.com you will remain S-ON but will have the ability to flash custom Recovery, Kernel or ROMs and rooting as well. So basically you have the freedom to change your system according to your preferences
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please will someone guide me how to flash custom recovery.
i have s-on, bootloader unlock htcdev and boot h2.00.0002.
i'm new to to desire s , previous hd2 owner,
thank you.
riaan0010 said:
please will someone guide me how to flash custom recovery.
i have s-on, bootloader unlock htcdev and boot h2.00.0002.
i'm new to to desire s , previous hd2 owner,
thank you.
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Check the sticky posts on DesireS forums, you will find all you need
Swyped from my Desire S
Let the ads those who succeeded in HBoot Revolucionary 6.98.1002 S-OFF to get back to Hboot 2.00.0002 S-ON.
Some write to read this post and this post, last but nothing concrete.
Thank you.
Hi,
I have a Desire S:
- hboot 2.00.0002
- 2.3.5
- S-ON
What is the best and safe way to S-OFF and root this device?
Thanks
I dont understand, its possible root and install a custom ROM without S-OFF?
Just htcdev to unlock your phone
no way to s-off
Sent from my HTC Desire S using XDA
@Fredericosilva
Read some... and read some more...
If you wish to s-off then you need to downgrade to a supported hboot, search the general thread (search:downgrade) for how to.
If you wish to stay s-on and have most of the advantages of s-off (root/recovery/roms) then you need to use HTCdev, but your warranty could be voided.
To me the best way would be; downgrade, revolutionary to s-off, install 4ext recovery, and use it to install super user.
s-on
Guys,
can you flash a custom kernel with s-on?
please respond this is the only thing keeping me from rooting
swiftfraser said:
Guys,
can you flash a custom kernel with s-on?
please respond this is the only thing keeping me from rooting
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Y y yes, although you can only flash them via fastboot with HTCdev unlock.
foX2delta said:
@Fredericosilva
Read some... and read some more...
If you wish to s-off then you need to downgrade to a supported hboot, search the general thread (search:downgrade) for how to.
If you wish to stay s-on and have most of the advantages of s-off (root/recovery/roms) then you need to use HTCdev, but your warranty could be voided.
To me the best way would be; downgrade, revolutionary to s-off, install 4ext recovery, and use it to install super user.
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I am a little scared to downgrade, are many steps....
- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20535265&postcount=26
- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22271797&postcount=11
hboot 2.00.0002 will be supported by Revolutionary? If it will be i prefer wait instead of do something wrong and damage my beauty.
@Fredericosilva
It may be supported down the line..... Not a guarantee though.
Many steps..... not really.... Its up to you at the end of the day.
If you don't want to downgrade your hboot u can try this guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525100
It'll leave your phone s-on, but you'll be root and you'll be able to flash roms.
So if I follow this guide what is the difference between this and do s-off?
I'll be able to install custom roms and install app that requiring root?
What the difference?
I rooted my phone earlier this week using the unlock bootloader method that HTCdev provided, and then rooted my phone, still have S-ON. At first I was very excited, but as I began trying to do other stuff, like flashing the kernel to overclock, flashing a rom and such I found out that it was not possible to do while I still had S-ON. So i went back, locked the bootloader, downgraded the bootloader 0.98.0000 and then used the Revolutiony.io to get the S-OFF and unlock the bootloader. It worked like a charm, and the method described in the guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20535265&postcount=26
is very easy to go by. It is, as mentioned earlier entirely up to you whether or not you want to do it. But I won't suggest waiting for Revolutionary to support the updated bootloader, since it might never happen and you'll end up growing weary knowing that you'll miss out all the fun you could have with a custom rom, overclocking and so on
Gormsen said:
I rooted my phone earlier this week using the unlock bootloader method that HTCdev provided, and then rooted my phone, still have S-ON. At first I was very excited, but as I began trying to do other stuff, like flashing the kernel to overclock, flashing a rom and such I found out that it was not possible to do while I still had S-ON. So i went back, locked the bootloader, downgraded the bootloader 0.98.0000 and then used the Revolutiony.io to get the S-OFF and unlock the bootloader. It worked like a charm, and the method described in the guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20535265&postcount=26
is very easy to go by. It is, as mentioned earlier entirely up to you whether or not you want to do it. But I won't suggest waiting for Revolutionary to support the updated bootloader, since it might never happen and you'll end up growing weary knowing that you'll miss out all the fun you could have with a custom rom, overclocking and so on
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Your DS was hboot 2.00.0002 2.3.5?
Non Branded?
I guess I will try it when I have time...
Gormsen said:
I rooted my phone earlier this week using the unlock bootloader method that HTCdev provided, and then rooted my phone, still have S-ON. At first I was very excited, but as I began trying to do other stuff, like flashing the kernel to overclock, flashing a rom and such I found out that it was not possible to do while I still had S-ON. So i went back, locked the bootloader, downgraded the bootloader 0.98.0000 and then used the Revolutiony.io to get the S-OFF and unlock the bootloader. It worked like a charm, and the method described in the guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20535265&postcount=26
is very easy to go by. It is, as mentioned earlier entirely up to you whether or not you want to do it. But I won't suggest waiting for Revolutionary to support the updated bootloader, since it might never happen and you'll end up growing weary knowing that you'll miss out all the fun you could have with a custom rom, overclocking and so on
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it is possible to flash a custom rom, look at this tutorial i've posted before, you only have to do it via fastboot. I'm not sure about the kernel thing.
Fredericosilva said:
So if I follow this guide what is the difference between this and do s-off?
I'll be able to install custom roms and install app that requiring root?
What the difference?
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you can flash custom roms, but you'll have to do it via fastboot. So it takes a bit more time. i'm not sure about other differences
Will I get the official OTA update if I have unlocked the bootloader via HTCdev method? Actually, I unlocked the bootloader via HTCdev on my sensation which is still in Android 2.3.4. (At that point I didn't know that doing that would not allow supercid and all that stuff.)
If I will get the update.. I just wanted to know after the official OTA update from HTC, will it be a like a new phone? (yeah, i know it will be factory reset.. but i wanted to know if my bootloader, rooting and etc. Will that remain?)
I want the all the rooting and unlocked bootloader not to stay so that i can start afresh with Revolutionary and flash one of the Sense 4 ROMs.. Please help!!
Thank you!
vipulnj said:
Will I get the official OTA update if I have unlocked the bootloader via HTCdev method? Actually, I unlocked the bootloader via HTCdev on my sensation which is still in Android 2.3.4. (At that point I didn't know that doing that would not allow supercid and all that stuff.)
If I will get the update.. I just wanted to know after the official OTA update from HTC, will it be a like a new phone? (yeah, i know it will be factory reset.. but i wanted to know if my bootloader, rooting and etc. Will that remain?)
I want the all the rooting and unlocked bootloader not to stay so that i can start afresh with Revolutionary and flash one of the Sense 4 ROMs.. Please help!!
Thank you!
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Yes you will receive OTA and bootloader will remain **unlocked**. All you need to receive OTA is stock rom, stock recovery and original cid (S-OFF or S-ON doesn't matter).
By the way if you are still on android 2.3.4 most probably your Hboot is 1.18 that means you can S-Off using Revolutionary and then supercid, root etc.. (you can revert easily to original cid and stock recovery anytime).
If you upgrade to ICS 4.0 with Hboot 1.27 you won't be able to S-OFF and supercid unless someone will find a solution. Actually Hboot 1.27 is not supported by Revolutionary.
Ota to ICS 4.0 will not factory reset your phone. Your data and apps will be untouched.
Honestly I don't understand if you are rooted or not. Unlocking bootloader by HtcDev doesn't mean you are rooted. Could you please clarify?
Hope it helps.
I have HTC Sensation 4G and it was running stock GB but I have updated the software to stock ICS from "software updates".
I wish to downgrade ICS to stock GB as the phone was much faster on GB. I have GB RUU file but of course it won't work as it's not so easy to downgrade from higher to lower version of android os.
My phone has the follwoing:
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Hboot 1.27.0000
Image firmware 3.32.841.15
Android 4.0.3
CID: Telst001
(I have found that the highest ics version for sensation 4g is 3.32.401.5) so I don't know how Telstra managed to make it 3.32.841.15. Maybe to make it harder for users to update via RUU files. Telstra is the phone carrier who sold the phone to me.
What I want is just to go back to stock GB, I don't want to root my phone and I don't want to S-OFF.
Everyone on net is only talking about rooting and S-OFF the phone but no clear answer or guide on how to Downgrade HTC Sensation 4g from Stock ICS to Stock GB.
Hope you can help me with that.
Thanks
Notes:
PS: I have tried to install almost every RUU_Pyramid version by normal windows installer (RUU.exe) and always stop with error (130) or via fast usb (PG58IMG.zip) with error "Model ID incorrect"!
I also would like someone to give 1 simple answer about this question:
If I S-OFF the phone, will i be able to install any compatible stock RUU version. I mean, i'm now on ICS and if I S-OFF the phone can i downgrade to GB without worrying about change Hboot version, rooting or messing too much with phone. Just run the RUU file and it will work without troubles?
rino8au said:
If I S-OFF the phone, will i be able to install any compatible stock RUU version. I mean, i'm now on ICS and if I S-OFF the phone can i downgrade to GB without worrying about change Hboot version, rooting or messing too much with phone. Just run the RUU file and it will work without troubles?
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S-Off isn't what will give you the ability to run any RUU.
Changing to the universal CID of 11111111 is what will let you do it.
Of course if you S-Off you can just install a custom recovery and flash any stock GB ROM you want and get to the same end result.
Skipjacks said:
S-Off isn't what will give you the ability to run any RUU.
Changing to the universal CID of 11111111 is what will let you do it.
Of course if you S-Off you can just install a custom recovery and flash any stock GB ROM you want and get to the same end result.
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So if I change the universal CID I will be able to downgrade from stock ICS to stock GB without rooting and without S-OFF? if so, how can i change the universal CID?
rino8au said:
So if I change the universal CID I will be able to downgrade from stock ICS to stock GB without rooting and without S-OFF? if so, how can i change the universal CID?
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For super cid u need s off .. .
U must soff for downgrade.. no options
And for custom gingerbread Rom u need gb firmware , and for changing firmware u need s off
Sent from my HTC Sensation using xda app-developers app
Itsakash said:
For super cid u need s off .. .
U must soff for downgrade.. no options
And for custom gingerbread Rom u need gb firmware , and for changing firmware u need s off
Sent from my HTC Sensation using xda app-developers app
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As I mentioned in my first posting that I want to use stock GB NOT custom rom. I do already have the correct RUU rom for my phone.
So, if you are saying that I have to S-OFF. Then are you are to able to give simple direction 1,2,3....
I can S-OFF the phone with revolutionary but Once I have S-OFF can I just run GB RUU file without rooting and without doing any extra work on the phone???
rino8au said:
As I mentioned in my first posting that I want to use stock GB NOT custom rom. I do already have the correct RUU rom for my phone.
So, if you are saying that I have to S-OFF. Then are you are to able to give simple direction 1,2,3....
I can S-OFF the phone with revolutionary but Once I have S-OFF can I just run GB RUU file without rooting and without doing any extra work on the phone???
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Revolutionary won't work on ics firmware u jb method for s off , including wire trick
After s off u have two options
1 - change cid to super cid and flash any RUU
2 - find matching RUU for your cid and install
For installing RUU ,
Connect device to pc in fastboot mode and double click RUU , it will install
Check kgs RUU thread in General section for all details information
Sent from my HTC Sensation using xda app-developers app
Itsakash said:
1 - change cid to super cid and flash any RUU
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How to change CID to super CID ?
rino8au said:
How to change CID to super CID ?
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Follow this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1672425
Sent from my HTC Sensation using xda app-developers app
Itsakash said:
Follow this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1672425
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Thanks, I will test tonight and I will let you know.
Here is the guide for getting S-Off: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1614617
and here is the thread with all the firmwares: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1459767&highlight=firmware
In order to run GB again you'll need to install the 1.17 Universal firmware (after having SuperCID and S-Off) using the instructions provided in that thread. However, I have no idea if it is possible to install an older firmware when you're on a newer one; you'll have to ask that in that thread. Finally, be careful and read all the instructions when you do these because gaining S-Off and (especially) installing different Hboots are very dangerous and can easily brick your phone if you do something wrong.
Itsakash said:
Follow this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1672425
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I did follow everything on the link you gave me.
* Phone now is rooted ( Not what I want )
* Revolutionary Utility didn't work with my phone because it doesn't support my Hboot version 1.27.0000 (So I can not get S-OFF with revolutionary).
* As per the guide, I can not have S-OFF with revolutionary, so I won't be able to get SuperCID, because to be able to run cmd command "fastboot oem writecid 11111111" I must have S-OFF first. But even if I have SuperCID, that alone won't allow me to install GB
All what I need now is two things:
1- Changing misc version to lower version than what I have to be able to install older RUU
2- Having SuperCID to be able to install other region Radio or RUU version
Can anyone tell me how to change the misc version on HTC Senation and have Supercid?
rino8au said:
I did follow everything on the link you gave me.
* Phone now is rooted ( Not what I want )
* Revolutionary Utility didn't work with my phone because it doesn't support my Hboot version 1.27.0000 (So I can not get S-OFF with revolutionary).
* As per the guide, I can not have S-OFF with revolutionary, so I won't be able to get SuperCID, because to be able to run cmd command "fastboot oem writecid 11111111" I must have S-OFF first. But even if I have SuperCID, that alone won't allow me to install GB
All what I need now is two things:
1- Changing misc version to lower version than what I have to be able to install older RUU
2- Having SuperCID to be able to install other region Radio or RUU version
Can anyone tell me how to change the misc version on HTC Senation and have Supercid?
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in ics android there is only way to gain S-OFF and then supercid and it is with juopunutbear method which involves wire trick
see here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1661631
after that you can flash the GB RUU
Done
Yes, you were all right about using juopunutbear method. I can confirm it's the only way to get S-OFF on ICS 4.0.3. So I have followed juopunutbear method and I got S-OFF so easy without a problem, then I run "fastboot oem writecid 11111111" to get SuperCID.
After that I was able to downgrade from ICS to GB by running RUU.exe
Thanks to you all for your help.
threat to warranty?
rino8au said:
Done
Yes, you were all right about using juopunutbear method. I can confirm it's the only way to get S-OFF on ICS 4.0.3. So I have followed juopunutbear method and I got S-OFF so easy without a problem, then I run "fastboot oem writecid 11111111" to get SuperCID.
After that I was able to downgrade from ICS to GB by running RUU.exe
Thanks to you all for your help.
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Does this downgrade threats the warranty(like the htcdev tool)?
vit0r94 said:
Does this downgrade threats the warranty(like the htcdev tool)?
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Yes, it will revoke your warranty
Thanks, I'm sticking with stock ICS for now.
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Hello guys. I'm new in this "world" and I need some help.
I have unlocked the bootloader using HTC Dev, I'm also root and I have 4EXT recovery.
I want to be S-off to be SuperCID, install firmware 3.33 universal and then install ROMs without problems.
The webpage of Juopunutbear says that I needd to have a stock RUU and no other ROMs are supported. I have Android 4.0.3 official, it was updated by the phone (I haven't changed anything, for now hehe). Can I use Juopunutbear? Is my Android a stock RUU? If not, how can I use Juopunutbear? I've been looking for Stock RUU but I haven't found any version equals or bigger than my build number (3.32). My sensation is a Vodafone Spanish phone.
Thank you!!!
NasterRetsan said:
Hello guys. I'm new in this "world" and I need some help.
I have unlocked the bootloader using HTC Dev, I'm also root and I have 4EXT recovery.
I want to be S-off to be SuperCID, install firmware 3.33 universal and then install ROMs without problems.
The webpage of Juopunutbear says that I needd to have a stock RUU and no other ROMs are supported. I have Android 4.0.3 official, it was updated by the phone (I haven't changed anything, for now hehe). Can I use Juopunutbear? Is my Android a stock RUU? If not, how can I use Juopunutbear? I've been looking for Stock RUU but I haven't found any version equals or bigger than my build number (3.32). My sensation is a Vodafone Spanish phone.
Thank you!!!
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you have the stock ruu
but i suggest to use this guide for S-OFF
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2751187
you will avoid the wire trick
rzr86 said:
you have the stock ruu
but i suggest to use this guide for S-OFF
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2751187
you will avoid the wire trick
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Thank you for your help! But Rumrunner didn't work, anyway I'll try to find out what the problem is
NasterRetsan said:
Thank you for your help! But Rumrunner didn't work, anyway I'll try to find out what the problem is
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read my post in the rumrunner thread
you will see it will work