[Q] Few Questions (HTC Desire, Tablets) - General Questions and Answers

I have a few questions:
1) For the HTC Desire (Bravo) and CM9, to update to 3.6_1 (I have 3.5_1 at the moment), do I have to start fresh, or can I just flash as an update. If I can update, do I flash like a normal fresh rom, or rename the zip to 'update.zip' and apply update that way. I have CWM v4.0.1.4 if that helps.
2) I have seen a few tablet threads here and on other sites, and I was wondering what's a good, pretty cheap tablet. Ideally I'd get the Transformer (prime or not) but I don't want to spend all that money on a bigger/powerful version of my phone. I was looking at the Novo7, but read there's issues with Apps because of its MIPS processor. Is there any tablet sub-$200 that isn't complete garbage, thats moddable (preferably CWM+CM 7 or 9), and has expandable memory? Full usb would be nice, not a deal breaker. Any Ideas?
I should note: Nook Touch isn't available in Canada (too my knowledge), so exclude that please. (Unless it is, but not from ebay/kijiji/craigslist/etc).
Thanks!

harblkips said:
I have a few questions:
1) For the HTC Desire (Bravo) and CM9, to update to 3.6_1 (I have 3.5_1 at the moment), do I have to start fresh, or can I just flash as an update. If I can update, do I flash like a normal fresh rom, or rename the zip to 'update.zip' and apply update that way. I have CWM v4.0.1.4 if that helps.
2) I have seen a few tablet threads here and on other sites, and I was wondering what's a good, pretty cheap tablet. Ideally I'd get the Transformer (prime or not) but I don't want to spend all that money on a bigger/powerful version of my phone. I was looking at the Novo7, but read there's issues with Apps because of its MIPS processor. Is there any tablet sub-$200 that isn't complete garbage, thats moddable (preferably CWM+CM 7 or 9), and has expandable memory? Full usb would be nice, not a deal breaker. Any Ideas?
I should note: Nook Touch isn't available in Canada (too my knowledge), so exclude that please. (Unless it is, but not from ebay/kijiji/craigslist/etc).
Thanks!
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1) Just from the changelog in that thread, the update to 3.6 is pretty major. I'd be doing a full wipe to prevent any compatibility issues popping up. I can't see explicit instructions from the Developer, so it pays to err on the side of caution Do a full wipe in CWM, then install ROM from zip as normal, then wipe cache and reboot.
2) HP TouchPad. 16GB units are hovering around the 160 mark, it has the Development you're looking for, and it is a quality device. As for expandable memory, perhaps a ViewSonic G-Tab?
Good luck!

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Planning on getting a Viewsonic G Tablet ..

HI ALL,
I'm thinking about getting a G Tablet and I plan on using it as a
replacement for my netbook. I read the forums about the G Tablet out
of box isn't the greatest but with a rom update, the G Tablet works
better.
My question is what utils do I need to upgrade the rom and any
other apps .. tnt or tnt light what do I need to do the rom updates. Most
likely it looks like the roms are updated through the micro-sd card.
Basically any info on updating the rom and utils is a plus ..
Also, I'm a big fan of Gentoo too ...
You're right, out of the box, their software simply sucks.
You won't really need any desktop utilities to replace the ROM. You'll need to find on the forum how to install Clockwork Mod (it's simple; you'll basically have to put two files on your sd card) and then installing ROMs goes down to putting a ZIP file on your SD card and selecting "install this zip file" in Clockwork Mod.
Cool ...
I'm going tomorrow to get it and install all the cool stuff.
Thanks for the reply...
I just got it and I'm charging it up... I plan on reading more info
about clockworks mod and the tnt lite 2.11 ...
I got a 4 gb micro-sd card for the rom updates and other stuff.
I plan on getting a 16GB next month. I figure it's no big rush.
The quality of the item is good and overall design too.
Just need to see if Plants vs Zombies can be added to this
now ...
GenBlood,
I bought mine with the same purpose in mind. I went TnT 2.11 as well.
As far as getting the ROM installed, the extra microsd is a fail-safe. To accomplish an update, all you need to do is copy the proper files to the internal storage of the gTab (will show up as external drive to your pc when you hook it up via usb, and enable on the gTab). Then, you force a recovery boot (when off, push power, while holding VOL +, wait for message indicating recovery mode). It's actually very simple.
With the latest Flash Install, and Market Fix, I am a mouse cursor away from leaving my Netbook at home, permanently. (Hope we can get Mouse working in TnT like the other ROMS. Pretty sure I'm sticking with TnT at this point)
You may not want to get too deep with 2.11, however, roe has 2.2 coming out in a couple of days, which will include some fixes.
GenBlood said:
Thanks for the reply...
I just got it and I'm charging it up... I plan on reading more info
about clockworks mod and the tnt lite 2.11 ...
I got a 4 gb micro-sd card for the rom updates and other stuff.
I plan on getting a 16GB next month. I figure it's no big rush.
The quality of the item is good and overall design too.
Just need to see if Plants vs Zombies can be added to this
now ...
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I've played that chinese ripoff of PVZ haha. Plays great on the gtab
P_6 said:
I am a mouse cursor away from leaving my Netbook at home, permanently. (Hope we can get Mouse working in TnT like the other ROMS. ...)
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Which ROMs currently support an external USB keyboard/mouse on the G Tab?
Vegan 5.1.1
Wow all my questions answered in one thread. Thanks guys.
Actually, the last update offered by ViewSonic has mouse support. Keyboard support it always had. Unfortunately, that update has been pulled because of some problems. They say that they will release an improved update "soon".
As for the stock UI "sucking", keep in mind that this is an old thread. There have been updates released by ViewSonic that vastly improve the stock UI. I have found no reason to flash a rogue firmware. Also, keep in mind that using rogue firmware will void your warranty.
You can install Android Market on the stock UI, and it can then just as easily be uninstalled. Just search the forums for a How-To for Market installation. I would recommend using it stock for a while, before trying to install other firmwares.

[Q] What is the first thing I should do when I get my G Tab?

OK, I've ordered my G Tab and expect it next week. I also ordered a docking station, a screen protector and leather case w/keyboard. All of these were recommended by XDA members on this site.
I am a complete idiot when it comes to technical knowledge. I have never owned an Android product, either. I've read and read and read the various posts in preparation for receiving my G Tab. I know I want to Root my Tab (probably with TnT Lite) and I know to install the ClockWorkMod V.08. Here are my questions:
1. When I get my G Tab, should I even turn it on or should I insert the MicroSD card with the CWM on it and then turn the G Tab on?
2. If I turn it on first, will it automatically connect to WiFi thru my router and start downloading the Viewsonic update?
3. Is it OK to install the Viewsonic update BEFORE I root it?
4. I have noticed that a lot of the users who use TnT Lite, are running the 2.1 or 3.1 versions. Why aren't they using the latest 4.1 version? Should I start with an earlier, more stable (proven) version?
5 When should I install the "Enhancement" pack? After the CWM or after I install TnT Lite?
These questions may be somewhere on this site, but I can't find them. Thank you in advance?
Dawg Fan said:
OK, I've ordered my G Tab and expect it next week. I also ordered a docking station, a screen protector and leather case w/keyboard. All of these were recommended by XDA members on this site.
I am a complete idiot when it comes to technical knowledge. I have never owned an Android product, either. I've read and read and read the various posts in preparation for receiving my G Tab. I know I want to Root my Tab (probably with TnT Lite) and I know to install the ClockWorkMod V.08. Here are my questions:
1. When I get my G Tab, should I even turn it on or should I insert the MicroSD card with the CWM on it and then turn the G Tab on?
2. If I turn it on first, will it automatically connect to WiFi thru my router and start downloading the Viewsonic update?
3. Is it OK to install the Viewsonic update BEFORE I root it?
4. I have noticed that a lot of the users who use TnT Lite, are running the 2.1 or 3.1 versions. Why aren't they using the latest 4.1 version? Should I start with an earlier, more stable (proven) version?
5 When should I install the "Enhancement" pack? After the CWM or after I install TnT Lite?
These questions may be somewhere on this site, but I can't find them. Thank you in advance?
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I'm still using stock TNT, but:
Re. 1) I would turn it on, even if you're planning to go to a different ROM, to at least make sure that it's working, before you try anything else. That way, in case there's a hardware problem, you haven't done anything to it yet, so it's factory condition. I don't know what stock firmware it will come with, but when I got my Gtab, it was like 3389, and there was a known thing with it, when you powered on the first time, a lot of stuff would force close. Rebooting (power off then power on) fixed that for me.
Re. 2) Assuming your WIFI is secured (WPA, etc.), the Gtab will try, but won't be able to connect successfully, since it doesn't have your WIFI router/access password. You'll need to go to Settings==>Wireless, and configure the password, and then it should connect after that.
Re. 3) Yes. That should be fine ...
Re. 4) I don't know...
Re. 5) The enhancement pack is INSTEAD of TNT lite, and is a patch for stock Viewsonic TNT. Conversely, TNT lite contains the stuff in the enhancement pack, plus more. So, they're kind of mutually exclusive. If you want to stay stock, but get the enhancements, install the enhancement pack. If you want a non-stock ROM, to replace the stock TNT, install TNT lite (or one of the other ROMs).
Jim
Thanks Jim! So, you are running the stock TnT 3452. Do you have the Enhancement pack installed? Did you try one of the new ROMs and then go back to stock?
No, I didn't install the enhancement pack, but rather, I've been installing things manually. The reason is that though I have a bit of experience w Linux, this is the 1st time I've had the chance to work w Android, so doing things manually is a kind of learning opportunity for me.
I haven't tried any of the other ROMs yet, but I might have to once they have CM7/gingerbread. It's tempting ...
In the meantime, this is OK for me.
Jim
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Hey Dawg,
You know what I think happens a lot is that people get everything running pretty smooth on a particular ROM version (ie: TNTlite 2.1 or 3.1), and then they don't necessarily see anything compelling enough in the upgrade to go through the hassle of backing up, wiping, flashing...Especially the first time or two you do it, it can be a little daunting. (Or maybe they forget to update their signature?)
I like to goof around, so I've flashed mine about 8 times or so. I'm on TNTlite 4.1 and it is a great ROM. Very stable, very fast. I would encourage you away from 3.1 because that's based on a version of the kernel that came from Viewsonic that had issues with performance lag and some media disappearing from the SD card. There are fixes for both issues, but that's even more that you have to install.
4.1 is based on an updated kernel, and both issues are fixed.
I also spent some time with the Vegan ROM and it's pretty slick too. I had an issue with it sporadically shutting down. Others have experienced it too, but certainly not everybody.
Both of TNTlite 4.1 and Vegan 5 have been in the wild for a long enough amount of time for us to have heard about any major issues. I'd say go for the latest and greatest.
nbowes said:
Hey Dawg,
You know what I think happens a lot is that people get everything running pretty smooth on a particular ROM version (ie: TNTlite 2.1 or 3.1), and then they don't necessarily see anything compelling enough in the upgrade to go through the hassle of backing up, wiping, flashing...Especially the first time or two you do it, it can be a little daunting. (Or maybe they forget to update their signature?)
I like to goof around, so I've flashed mine about 8 times or so. I'm on TNTlite 4.1 and it is a great ROM. Very stable, very fast. I would encourage you away from 3.1 because that's based on a version of the kernel that came from Viewsonic that had issues with performance lag and some media disappearing from the SD card. There are fixes for both issues, but that's even more that you have to install.
4.1 is based on an updated kernel, and both issues are fixed.
I also spent some time with the Vegan ROM and it's pretty slick too. I had an issue with it sporadically shutting down. Others have experienced it too, but certainly not everybody.
Both of TNTlite 4.1 and Vegan 5 have been in the wild for a long enough amount of time for us to have heard about any major issues. I'd say go for the latest and greatest.
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Thanks! That is very useful.
I wish I understood all of this technical lingo. I'm 56 years old and love playing around on computers, but I have a brain fart when it comes to HOW they work. I guess it is just my generation. My father was a HAM radio operator and heavy into electronics. I didn't inherit any of that.
Here's my suggestion:
1) While waiting for the gtab, read the first page of the TnT Lite thread two or three times and download the files you will need to your PC. Then read the Clockwork Mod and Market Fix thread the same amount
2) Play with the gtab just long enough to verify it is not defective, damaged or DOA.
3) Transfer over Clockwork files via USB, restart
4) Install Clockwork, and then repartition to 2048,0 (will wipe your internal memory)
5) Mount USB, copy over TnT 4.1 file and install
6) Configure wireless, setup google account, market fix, flash
7) When everything is working, restart and backup with Clockwork
8) Download Titanium Backup for your apps and learn how to use it. I think this is the best app I have purchased so far and well worth the money.
Well I don't know your android experience level but there a few thing I would look into first your comfort level of installing bekits clockwork.08 based in my experiences this works better than other versions of recoveries. I would also look into nvflash just in case you run into trouble. There is no need for nvflash unless you run into trouble Choose the rom you want to use and read the instructions many times before trying to flash. And if you decide to use rom manager app you can download the roms from it but for now do not use rom mananger to flash to new roms or make backups only do it from clockwork recovery. With all that being said have fun it is not as diffcult as you might think
Thanks for all of the help/recommendations. I have to admit that I am so afraid that something will go wrong while trying one of these things. I'm telling you, I really don't understand any of this. I can follow instructions, so if that is all it takes, then I can do it. But I think I will first install the Viewsonic update and play around with that for a few days before I decide to root it.
Just so you know you don't have to root seperately anymore when you flash a rom it will automatically root for you

Root and leave Stock ICS .27 for something more stable: recommendations?

I realize this posting is going to be asking a lot of questions but I hope the thread will be helpful to everyone suffering with the awful ICS update series on the ASUS TF101. So please: if you have specific knowledge and experience, think of the large community of suffering TF101 owners and help them remedy the problem. Because it is apparent that ASUS has abandoned us.
BACKGROUND
I have a TF101 and I am disgusted with how badly ASUS has handled the development/testing/rollout of ICS. There's no point in being fast to market if you're going to put out crap that destabilizes your hardware!
- If I only had the easy choice of keeping the latest OTA (at the moment .27) or returning to Honeycomb, I would do the latter. It didn't crash. And it responded crisply to touches. But part of ASUS idiocy is not providing a backwards migration path even though they have ample evidence that they have a shoddy ICS ROM.
I realize, before asking, that there are a lot of combinations and permutations to what you folks might recommend. But let me help you to understand what I am seeking at the end of the migration:
First off about me: I have prior experience rooting and replacing ROM's. (Nexus One now runs CM 7.1. Samsung Galaxy Tab 7" GT-P1000 now running CM9.) But I would not describe myself as an experienced or confident person-- I suppose it would help if all Android devices used the same tools and procedures for performing the migration.
Bottom Line: I am capable of following instructions and I am comfortable with CWM flashing once I have a rooted device with CWM.
My criteria:
Stability:
I want highest possible stability- I am realistic; I realize that the ASUS TF101 is already cursed. But I would settle for one crash every couple of days.
Smooth performance:
Under .27 stock, there is a ridiculously slow response to touch events. My single core first generation Samsung 7" performs faster!
Ungimmicky:
I don't need flashy special features built into the ROM. I'd be happy with something that stays reasonably close to the vanilla Android ICS experience.
(If it helps, I am fairly pleased with the CM9 implementation on my ancient Samsung 7".)
What I Use TF101 For:
- Slingplayer Mobile
- Video files (.avi, .mp4, .mpg, .flv, .mkv)
- Reading: PressReader, Pulse, Flipboard
- Occasionally using an Office-type suite and/or Google Drive docs
What I Don't Want or Need
- Games
- ASUS "value added" bloatware apps
Questions:
- What are the important differences between the various CM9 implementations?
I see there are at least two CM9 implementations for the TF101. (Which may or may not be the same as the one posted at the CyanogenMod site:
http://get.cm/?device=tf101&type=stable
- I have done some reading about Revolver and Overcome. But I am not sure whether these are a better choice than CM9. Are they more reliable because they are based on the stock ROM?
(Remember that I don't want or need any ASUS apps.)
- So let's start with the important question: based on my needs and desire for a quick move to a rooted, stable, ICS TF101, which ROM should I use?
- Which kernel and version number should I flash to accompany that particular ROM?
- Is there a guide (either here on XDA or elsewhere) that will take me from stock, unrooted ICS .27 to installing CWM?
- A bonus would be if it took me all the way to flashing the final ROM, but this is not essential
One last point: I already understand the idea that CWM would let me try out various ROMs. And I am comfortable doing that if I am not happy with my first choice.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
goattee said:
I realize this posting is going to be asking a lot of questions but I hope the thread will be helpful to everyone suffering with the awful ICS update series on the ASUS TF101. So please: if you have specific knowledge and experience, think of the large community of suffering TF101 owners and help them remedy the problem. Because it is apparent that ASUS has abandoned us.
BACKGROUND
I have a TF101 and I am disgusted with how badly ASUS has handled the development/testing/rollout of ICS. There's no point in being fast to market if you're going to put out crap that destabilizes your hardware!
- If I only had the easy choice of keeping the latest OTA (at the moment .27) or returning to Honeycomb, I would do the latter. It didn't crash. And it responded crisply to touches. But part of ASUS idiocy is not providing a backwards migration path even though they have ample evidence that they have a shoddy ICS ROM.
I realize, before asking, that there are a lot of combinations and permutations to what you folks might recommend. But let me help you to understand what I am seeking at the end of the migration:
First off about me: I have prior experience rooting and replacing ROM's. (Nexus One now runs CM 7.1. Samsung Galaxy Tab 7" GT-P1000 now running CM9.) But I would not describe myself as an experienced or confident person-- I suppose it would help if all Android devices used the same tools and procedures for performing the migration.
Bottom Line: I am capable of following instructions and I am comfortable with CWM flashing once I have a rooted device with CWM.
My criteria:
Stability:
I want highest possible stability- I am realistic; I realize that the ASUS TF101 is already cursed. But I would settle for one crash every couple of days.
Smooth performance:
Under .27 stock, there is a ridiculously slow response to touch events. My single core first generation Samsung 7" performs faster!
Ungimmicky:
I don't need flashy special features built into the ROM. I'd be happy with something that stays reasonably close to the vanilla Android ICS experience.
(If it helps, I am fairly pleased with the CM9 implementation on my ancient Samsung 7".)
What I Use TF101 For:
- Slingplayer Mobile
- Video files (.avi, .mp4, .mpg, .flv, .mkv)
- Reading: PressReader, Pulse, Flipboard
- Occasionally using an Office-type suite and/or Google Drive docs
What I Don't Want or Need
- Games
- ASUS "value added" bloatware apps
Questions:
- What are the important differences between the various CM9 implementations?
I see there are at least two CM9 implementations for the TF101. (Which may or may not be the same as the one posted at the CyanogenMod site:
http://get.cm/?device=tf101&type=stable
- I have done some reading about Revolver and Overcome. But I am not sure whether these are a better choice than CM9. Are they more reliable because they are based on the stock ROM?
(Remember that I don't want or need any ASUS apps.)
- So let's start with the important question: based on my needs and desire for a quick move to a rooted, stable, ICS TF101, which ROM should I use?
- Which kernel and version number should I flash to accompany that particular ROM?
- Is there a guide (either here on XDA or elsewhere) that will take me from stock, unrooted ICS .27 to installing CWM?
- A bonus would be if it took me all the way to flashing the final ROM, but this is not essential
One last point: I already understand the idea that CWM would let me try out various ROMs. And I am comfortable doing that if I am not happy with my first choice.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
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None of stock ROMs r stable r smooth and I hate them.. in my opinion rooting n custom is the way to go.... when I was on ICS, I preferred revolver ICS ROM but android revolution HD is also very smooth n stable... I have moved onto jelly bean but since its in alpha/nightly versions its up to you..
I prefer easy flash to root and install recovery, please choose twrp or rogue recovery as they r better than cwm in my opinion...
For revolver n revolution you don't need any custom kernel as both run on stock kernel...
PS: when you use easy flash follow instructions and install universal naked driver.... good luck
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using xda app-developers app
I just hopped back to Megatron after tinkering with jelly bean rooms, it's still the best daily workhorse from I've tried on this thing.
udupa82 said:
... when I was on ICS, I preferred revolver ICS ROM
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I rooted and flashed Revolver. So far I am relying on the original kernel The tablet is no longer hesitating. So far no random FCs of apps. The Gmail app in particular is not afraid to stay alive.
I am quite pleased!

[Q] Non-ASUS Roms and Dock Compatibility?

My wife's JB stock Asus TF700 is being annoying. It's laggy, audio recording hiccups and stutters and lags, and in general my Nexus 7 makes it look really bad (and it's not like she's installed a bunch of junk on it, and these problems persist after reboots/cache wipes).
I don't mind at all unlocking it and doing things like custom kernels, kernel tweaks etc. But I have a few reservations....one of the biggest is the dock with non-ASUS ROMs. I want to make sure that full dock functionality is there. That means the trackpad works, the keyboard works, the SD card slot in the keyboard works, etc. Is there any reason to be concerned about this with custom TF700 ROMs? I don't really see their descriptions addressing this.
The other question is, how likely is it I'll see the improvements I want just by putting in a custom kernel, maybe running an app like Seeder, and/or FSTrim to combat lagginess, and just otherwise leave the stock ASUS Jelly Bean on it, albeit rooted.
Hope this question hasn't been asked and answered before. I *did* search.
Randy
I run CROMI 3.2.1 on my TF700 & have no problems with my keyboard dock. keys all work, as does the SDcard.
This ROM is built off of Asus's Rom, just improved upon.
I've noticed a huge difference in my tablet since switching to CROMI over the stock ROM.
Not sure about just putting in a new kernel though.
Someone else might be able to answer that better.
I'm running CROMI 3.2 + ubuntu on dualboot (rabits) and even with the custom kernel, everything related to the dock works on the android side (the SD reader on the dock is a little problematic while running linux but that is kind of to be expected with an alpha build)
I would go with the newest CleanRom Inheritance (CROMI) and run one of clemsyn's kernels with it.
Stupid fast (compared to stock at least)
I'm also running with fsync disabled, and the performance difference is definitely noticeable.
Also running CROMI 3.2.1, everything works as with the stock ROM, just much, much better!
On stock I was ok with this tablet, got it for the flexibility and keyboard and put up with the lagginess.
Now I absolutely love it! So much fun!
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using Tapatalk HD
If you're really worried about dock support, go the CROMI route -- I'm another proponent and use it myself. It is INSANE how much difference it makes. The lay-out and general user experience is the same, so the transition is... hell, it's not even small or negligible, it's just absent.
Do yourself and your wife a favor and flash CROMI. I warn you, however: once done, there's no way you're going back to stock, and even the other ROMs probably lose to CROMI (by maybe a small margin, I haven't tested lately sicne I'm really happy with the performance as is).
Sweet!! Thanks, guys! I'll give it a go. Looks like others are saying the ASUS unlocker will work on the JB stock ROM so, presumably I no longer have to worry about going through the 'downgrade' to ICS first...
Recommendations on the recovery? CWM? TWRP?
Thanks,
Randy
PS You may have gathered this, but I've been doing this with phones & tablets for a long time with Android, so I'm not 'new' to it, I just didn't know how to deal with the wildcard of the dock thrown in the mix.
rmagruder said:
Sweet!! Thanks, guys! I'll give it a go. Looks like others are saying the ASUS unlocker will work on the JB stock ROM so, presumably I no longer have to worry about going through the 'downgrade' to ICS first...
Recommendations on the recovery? CWM? TWRP?
Thanks,
Randy
PS You may have gathered this, but I've been doing this with phones & tablets for a long time with Android, so I'm not 'new' to it, I just didn't know how to deal with the wildcard of the dock thrown in the mix.
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TWRP, no doubt, but not the latest version, stay with TWRP version 2.3.1.0 (first choice) or 2.3.3.0(second choice).
buhohitr said:
TWRP, no doubt, but not the latest version, stay with TWRP version 2.3.1.0 (first choice) or 2.3.3.0(second choice).
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Hehehe, here's where opinions start differing. I'm a CWM guy, but probably due to having learned where everything is. I believe the current versions of TWRP are really good, and since they're friendlier to learn (and operate, I guess) there's no shame in using TWRP, and whichever one you happen to choose doesn't really matter since they perform the most important tasks equally well.
One real advantage of TWRP is being able to use GooManager to update it on the device itself. As I think of it now, now I've had to tape the tablet inside the dock, I'm probably going to have to go the TWRP route myself soon... (I don't know if I can fastboot through the dock. Ugh)
Still, I vote CWM.
Don't forget to get your nvflash backup setup first...
rmagruder said:
JB stock
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DocCox said:
Don't forget to get your nvflash backup setup first...
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Too late.
buhohitr said:
TWRP, no doubt, but not the latest version, stay with TWRP version 2.3.1.0 (first choice) or 2.3.3.0(second choice).
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Last couple of versions of TWRP feel a bit like betas to me. It offers a brilliant interface but it's a bit disconcerting that it can freeze anywhere in the flash process. I've switched to CWM and whilst it is incredibly slow in comparison to TWRP it is at least stable.

[Q] How to root the LG P500 with stock rom 2.3.3

Hello,
i´ve researched on this topic for a while now, but the result is confusing.
Everyone tell a different way to root the LG. Half of the threads are too old with expired download link or not working methods.
And there seems to be a problem with the new baseband when the phone is updated to the "new" 2.3.3. stock rom.
I would like to try the "CyanogenMod" first.
http://download.cyanogenmod.org/?device=p500&type=stable
As I am unsure which ROM to choose from the endless variety of custom ROMs and the CyanogenMod seems to be the most reliable solution.
Important is a smooth and fast OS with the possibility to install (every) App to the SD Card.
thx for any help in advance
Any Ideas?
georg2010 said:
Hello,
i´ve researched on this topic for a while now, but the result is confusing.
Everyone tell a different way to root the LG. Half of the threads are too old with expired download link or not working methods.
And there seems to be a problem with the new baseband when the phone is updated to the "new" 2.3.3. stock rom.
I would like to try the "CyanogenMod" first.
http://download.cyanogenmod.org/?device=p500&type=stable
As I am unsure which ROM to choose from the endless variety of custom ROMs and the CyanogenMod seems to be the most reliable solution.
Important is a smooth and fast OS with the possibility to install (every) App to the SD Card.
thx for any help in advance
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Hello georg2010 welcome to Xda! now first off we can start with trying to root your phone, older phones on xda start to loose their links as the days go by but hopefully there are a few still up. for now, i want you to use this method to root it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682
From there you are going to go to the play market and download an app called "ClockworkMod ROM Manager", open it as soon as its done and choose to install Clockworkmod recovery,should be the first option, you need to be sure that you select your model only, in this case you told us a LG optimus one p500. once its done it might restart but to make sure it worked try this button combo when your device is turned off: Volume Down + Power + Home
post back when your ready to move on ahead.
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Hello georg2010 welcome to Xda! now first off we can start with trying to root your phone, older phones on xda start to loose their links as the days go by but hopefully there are a few still up. for now, i want you to use this method to root it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682
From there you are going to go to the play market and download an app called "ClockworkMod ROM Manager", open it as soon as its done and choose to install Clockworkmod recovery,should be the first option, you need to be sure that you select your model only, in this case you told us a LG optimus one p500. once its done it might restart but to make sure it worked try this button combo when your device is turned off: Volume Down + Power + Home
post back when your ready to move on ahead.
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Hello,
Yes I remember this software, because I was actually trying to root my phone some months ago already but it never went beyond this point
I think it was this part
When it says: Starting ADB Server...
Turn USB Debugging OFF
Turn USB Debugging ON
Turn USB Debugging OFF
All BEFORE it says "Waiting for device..." again
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where it stuck at "Waiting for device..."
BTW: Is this software clean? I mean some people reportet a virus in "SuperOneClick"
georg2010 said:
Hello,
Yes I remember this software, because I was actually trying to root my phone some months ago already but it never went beyond this point
I think it was this part
where it stuck at "Waiting for device..."
BTW: Is this software clean? I mean some people reportet a virus in "SuperOneClick"
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Yes, the software is clean, most of the time stuff like this people get virus pickups, thousands of people view these forums a day, you would think if it was a real virus it would be Taken down Asap. as for your problem with that program, did you install LG drivers? if not and we still have problems with it, try this instead http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1044765 download the APK towards the bottom, should be GingerBreak-v1.20.apk put it on your phone, use a file browser like androzip (personally my favorite its on the google play store) find it and install it. open it and follow the directions, make sure to enable usb debugging in settings first, im sure this one will root your device, it normally roots android 2.1-2.3 easily rooted my LG optimus V (same exact phone as yours different carrier)
Edit: my bad did a little research and it looks like Gingerbreak only works on the 2.2 update, which you have the 2.3.3 update. i would try this also
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1832485 otherwise try superonelick again.
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Yes, the software is clean, most of the time stuff like this people get virus pickups, thousands of people view these forums a day, you would think if it was a real virus it would be Taken down Asap. as for your problem with that program, did you install LG drivers? if not and we still have problems with it, try this instead http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1044765 download the APK towards the bottom, should be GingerBreak-v1.20.apk put it on your phone, use a file browser like androzip (personally my favorite its on the google play store) find it and install it. open it and follow the directions, make sure to enable usb debugging in settings first, im sure this one will root your device, it normally roots android 2.1-2.3 easily rooted my LG optimus V (same exact phone as yours different carrier)
Edit: my bad did a little research and it looks like Gingerbreak only works on the 2.2 update, which you have the 2.3.3 update. i would try this also
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1832485 otherwise try superonelick again.
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SuperOneClick 2.3.3. worked at first try.
Installing ClockworkMod now.
Well I wanted to install the recovery, it detected my phone but it says only for old BB, which is the baseband driver I guess.
As it is Android 2.3.3. I guess its the new baseband?!
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Well I wanted to install the recovery, it detected my phone but it says only for old BB, which is the baseband driver I guess.
As it is Android 2.3.3. I guess its the new baseband?!
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i dont quite understand friend, i dont think it should have anything to do with baseband.
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i dont quite understand friend, i dont think it should have anything to do with baseband.
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I just did it,
according to: http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/41965-lg-optimus-one-complete-flashing-guide/
5) Press the “Flash Clockworkmod Recovery” option
6) Popup appears, asking for your device; select “LGE Optimus One”
7) Another popup will appear giving two options for the basebands:
- LG Optimus One (This is for new baseband)
- LG Optimus One (Old BB) (This is for old baseband)
I would advise you to select Old BB recovery as its more stable; new baseband may result in semi-brick (Personal Experience)
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So it seems to be irrelevant if I have new or old BB, for this part, my LG still can connect and so its not bricked (yet ). So everything seems to be fine.
Did already a backup of my ROM through clockwork recovery.
So I guess its time to install CM7 now?
georg2010 said:
I just did it,
according to: http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/41965-lg-optimus-one-complete-flashing-guide/
So it seems to be irrelevant if I have new or old BB, for this part, my LG still can connect and so its not bricked (yet ). So everything seems to be fine.
Did already a backup of my ROM through clockwork recovery.
So I guess its time to install CM7 now?
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Correct. If your able to get into cwm with no troubles then we can move on. Your going to download cyanogenmod first, for your phone only p500. Then your going to see which version of cyanogenmod you downloaded and download the correct gapps from here http://goo.im/gapps gapps are needed for every rom yoi flash, pretty much it includes all nessesary google items such as gmail and the play store. Put both of these files onto a micro sd card for your phone and your going to first select wipe data, after that choose wipe cache. Once thats finished you are going to select install zip and navigate to where you put the cyanogenmod zip and gapps zip. Flash (fancy way of daying install) the cm7 first, once finished flash the gapps after then reboot if all comes out well.
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Correct. If your able to get into cwm with no troubles then we can move on. Your going to download cyanogenmod first, for your phone only p500. Then your going to see which version of cyanogenmod you downloaded and download the correct gapps from here http://goo.im/gapps gapps are needed for every rom yoi flash, pretty much it includes all nessesary google items such as gmail and the play store. Put both of these files onto a micro sd card for your phone and your going to first select wipe data, after that choose wipe cache. Once thats finished you are going to select install zip and navigate to where you put the cyanogenmod zip and gapps zip. Flash (fancy way of daying install) the cm7 first, once finished flash the gapps after then reboot if all comes out well.
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Well it seems to work.
In some points not what I ´ve expected (I mean here and there still little lags) and so on. But I guess the fun has just begun, so it need a lot of fine tuning. Maybe I will update from CM7 to a higher one because its obviously still "gingerbread" (if this is recommended regarding the available resources on my P500)
But my goal is at first, to be able to move or install every app directly to the SD card. I would like to know how to do that, I´ve read some tutorials about partitioning the SD card and so on. Do you have to create a separate partition for the "apps"?
Although the 200MB space on my phone was nearly completely unused, (which is great becuase on the stock ROM its nearly full even after factory reset) I still would like to use the space on my 16 GB Sd Card, for this purpose.
The second "nice-to-have" feature would be the ability to install officially not compatible apps on my phone.
For example if I want to install "Threema" it says not compatible device in the market.
georg2010 said:
Well it seems to work.
In some points not what I ´ve expected (I mean here and there still little lags) and so on. But I guess the fun has just begun, so it need a lot of fine tuning. Maybe I will update from CM7 to a higher one because its obviously still "gingerbread" (if this is recommended regarding the available resources on my P500)
But my goal is at first, to be able to move or install every app directly to the SD card. I would like to know how to do that, I´ve read some tutorials about partitioning the SD card and so on. Do you have to create a separate partition for the "apps"?
Although the 200MB space on my phone was nearly completely unused, (which is great becuase on the stock ROM its nearly full even after factory reset) I still would like to use the space on my 16 GB Sd Card, for this purpose.
The second "nice-to-have" feature would be the ability to install officially not compatible apps on my phone.
For example if I want to install "Threema" it says not compatible device in the market.
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Well first off, for your lagging problem, its because the device is a little outdated with its Processor which is clocked at 600 MHz. Cyanogenmod allows you to overclock your device to what they think is a safe Clock speed. honestly when i had Cyanogenmod 7 on my Optimus v (same as p500 different carrier) i don't think i got to overclock it past 700 MHz. now you might be wondering if overclocking is as dangerous as computer overclocking, these phones (CPU's) where meant to get packed into small areas on its motherboard if that makes sense. it is completely safe to overclock (there was a Motorola phone i think was the moto atrix, when it first came out, it was clocked at 1 GHz. the ics update had boosted it up to 1.2 GHz.) the most harm it can do is Reboot when it either what i'm guessing cant handle that clock speed or is just a huge jump from different speeds. so pretty much just boost it 5% at a time until it reboots, to overclock i don't remember where you would be able to find it in cyanogenmod 7, i think it might be in something called cyanogenmod settings, the layout between CM7 vs CM9 and up changed quite a bit. but pretty much just look around for it.
as for your SD card problems, i don't know much about partitioning SD cards i don't do much of that. i think Gingerbread (2.3.X or CM7.X) and down had some weird SD card problems and limited taking apps to the SD card, android 4.0.X and up changed and you had more options but Apps were allowed to dump files everywhere onto your SD card making a mess (this is normally through all android versions Except Kitkat 4.4.x lots of people don't mind it but there are others who like it neat) kitkat fixed this and if i remember right kinda broke our way of making apps go to the SD card, you would have to look that up. i would recommend getting a 4.2.X or 4.3.X rom, personally my favorite versions of android. kitkat was not very impressive, if you don't see any of those just Test 4.0.X roms and up until you get something that is enjoyable. i'm looking around for a smaller gapps so we can give you a little more internal space, these small gapps pretty much give you the things you Really only need to use your phone such as the play market and Google play services, it removes like Gmail and hangouts, you will still be able to download them from the play store if you need them or see something missing.
as for your last question, its not that your phone is not officially compatible its because of your android version, i did some research and threema requires ICS 4.0.X and up so if you want to use this app you need to flash a ics or higher rom. remember every time you want to flash a rom, backup, wipe data, wipe cache, flash rom then gapps. i'm surprised you still own this phone, it is outdated at this point but is still a GREAT phone and im glad some people still use it, it was my first android phone and is still a great phone to this day (even if its sitting on my desk for the rest of its days like the rest of my phones lol). if you get stuck please reply back.
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just ignore me
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Sorry i cant, its against rules to spam to get past the 10 post limit and make you look bad.
Trozzul said:
Well first off, for your lagging problem, its because the device is a little outdated with its Processor which is clocked at 600 MHz. Cyanogenmod allows you to overclock your device to what they think is a safe Clock speed. honestly when i had Cyanogenmod 7 on my Optimus v (same as p500 different carrier) i don't think i got to overclock it past 700 MHz. now you might be wondering if overclocking is as dangerous as computer overclocking, these phones (CPU's) where meant to get packed into small areas on its motherboard if that makes sense. it is completely safe to overclock (there was a Motorola phone i think was the moto atrix, when it first came out, it was clocked at 1 GHz. the ics update had boosted it up to 1.2 GHz.) the most harm it can do is Reboot when it either what i'm guessing cant handle that clock speed or is just a huge jump from different speeds. so pretty much just boost it 5% at a time until it reboots, to overclock i don't remember where you would be able to find it in cyanogenmod 7, i think it might be in something called cyanogenmod settings, the layout between CM7 vs CM9 and up changed quite a bit. but pretty much just look around for it.
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The overclocking indeed helps a bit. I think it depends on the Launcher too.
I´ve installed Go Launcher Ex with a simple theme: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gau.go.launcherex.theme.cblue
And it works much better.
There is a unofficial CM9 for P500
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Unoff....2C_Thrive_.28P506.29.2C_Optimus_T_.28P509.29
but the thread seems to be closed.
Also I don´t know if I just can pick any ROM available, or if I need a specific port for my device.
i'm looking around for a smaller gapps so we can give you a little more internal space, these small gapps pretty much give you the things you Really only need to use your phone such as the play market and Google play services, it removes like Gmail and hangouts, you will still be able to download them from the play store if you need them or see something missing.
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Thanks this sounds good. I guess this apps cannot be stored on the SD Card. And such like launchers neither. Tried this with Go Launcher Ex, the widgets crashed. - At least if You use the standard way of copying Apps on the SD card through the App manager.
So such performance-relevant stuff should be kept in phone´s storage.
i'm surprised you still own this phone, it is outdated at this point but is still a GREAT phone and im glad some people still use it, it was my first android phone and is still a great phone to this day (even if its sitting on my desk for the rest of its days like the rest of my phones lol)
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Its a combination of circumstances.
The phone is not so outdated that I had a strong desire to give out money for a new one.
And I like the design becuase its "handy". It´s not so small and not too big.
And if there is a free way to get rid of the slow stock rom, and make it a little bit faster... why not?
The today´s phones, like the Samsung S3-5 are way too big, and most importantly too expensive,
the whole system there is sad, you have to pay like 700€ for a new phone and as soon as they bring out a new model, the price drops instantly.
So you ask yourself do you pay for the hardware or for the "image" or whatever? So if I buy a new phone then I will of course always look for the "outdated" models (which are not in my opinion). Like the S2 or S3, where you still have a good performance, for a good price.
The One Plus One is interesting too, another favorite would be Google Nexus or (to stay loyal) some of the LG smartphones like the L70-L90, its maybe not one of the high end smartphones but still sure a nice performance boost.
The only bad thing about the older phones is the low screen resolution.
georg2010 said:
The overclocking indeed helps a bit. I think it depends on the Launcher too.
I´ve installed Go Launcher Ex with a simple theme: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gau.go.launcherex.theme.cblue
And it works much better.
There is a unofficial CM9 for P500
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Unoff....2C_Thrive_.28P506.29.2C_Optimus_T_.28P509.29
but the thread seems to be closed.
Also I don´t know if I just can pick any ROM available, or if I need a specific port for my device.
Thanks this sounds good. I guess this apps cannot be stored on the SD Card. And such like launchers neither. Tried this with Go Launcher Ex, the widgets crashed. - At least if You use the standard way of copying Apps on the SD card through the App manager.
So such performance-relevant stuff should be kept in phone´s storage.
Its a combination of circumstances.
The phone is not so outdated that I had a strong desire to give out money for a new one.
And I like the design becuase its "handy". It´s not so small and not too big.
And if there is a free way to get rid of the slow stock rom, and make it a little bit faster... why not?
The today´s phones, like the Samsung S3-5 are way too big, and most importantly too expensive,
the whole system there is sad, you have to pay like 700€ for a new phone and as soon as they bring out a new model, the price drops instantly.
So you ask yourself do you pay for the hardware or for the "image" or whatever? So if I buy a new phone then I will of course always look for the "outdated" models (which are not in my opinion). Like the S2 or S3, where you still have a good performance, for a good price.
The One Plus One is interesting too, another favorite would be Google Nexus or (to stay loyal) some of the LG smartphones like the L70-L90, its maybe not one of the high end smartphones but still sure a nice performance boost.
The only bad thing about the older phones is the low screen resolution.
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the original Stock launcher for Cyanogenmod 7 and below was a launcher called ADW launcher, the company or person who made it tends to try to make it as stock android as possible and honestly the version cyanogenmod 7 came with was not very good. i dont think launchers cant be moved to the sd card but widgets sure cant.
your right, you cant pick any rom you want, it has to be specifically built for your own. cyanogenmod is not the only rom type. most of the time unofficial roms will be built upon cyanogenmod or other roms. there are a few others on some newer phones but cyanogenmod is the stablest and if its official updates on bugs come faster. if you want to find more roms, here on xda you always want to go here for your device
http://forum.xda-developers.com/optimus-one/one-development for roms kernels and other modifications.
honestly if you were to find a used Galaxy s2 the specs would be perfectly fine. all variants have a great development community going and should for the new few android versions. what carrier do you have? i would try to get a T989 T-mobile s2 like myself, its pretty great though its a 4.5" ich screen vs your 3.2" screen its not too big, probably the only problem i have with it is the resolution is not the best. a motorola G would be a great replacement aswell, better specs than the s2 (its very close to a s3 benchmark) same screen size and i think it has a better resolution.
as for today's standards you Are paying for image, paying for the brand name (like alienware and dell computers), back then it used to be Hardware, the Nexus one used to have the Best phone specs when it was released. if you look at benchmarks, the Galaxy s4 vs the s5 there is not much of a difference. i myself am interested in the oneplus one device but the only problem is that invite system. im also thinking of grabing a LG L90, great price for its specs which are the same as the moto g so pretty much as close to a s3.
Its hard to choose but I will give this one a try:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2409107
what carrier do you have?
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O2
but I don´t really care about carrier, ´cause I use a prepaid card. Which work with every phone. And would buy only a sim-lock free phone.
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Its hard to choose but I will give this one a try:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2409107
O2
but I don´t really care about carrier, ´cause I use a prepaid card. Which work with every phone. And would buy only a sim-lock free phone.
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be sure to read most of the thread looking for special requirements, some roms like this one dont need a gapps.
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be sure to read most of the thread looking for special requirements, some roms like this one dont need a gapps.
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Yes saw this already.
btw. deleted this already,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2409107
.. not so smooth and screen was not so good, in the menues on the small display.
Flashed this now: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1811325
which is coming closer to that what I´ve expected..
Although I´ve trouble with the non-functional home button, someone suggested here, to re-flash the ROM, but Cyanogen and Gapp separately.
Will try this now.
Also I am considering to try this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2096721
But not sure if there are any major bugs or something.
This is the 4.2.X you suggested. Can´t find 4.3.X though.
What is the difference between them?
Maybe you can suggest one specific rom.
georg2010 said:
Yes saw this already.
btw. deleted this already,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2409107
.. not so smooth and screen was not so good, in the menues on the small display.
Flashed this now: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1811325
which is coming closer to that what I´ve expected..
Although I´ve trouble with the non-functional home button, someone suggested here, to re-flash the ROM, but Cyanogen and Gapp separately.
Will try this now.
Also I am considering to try this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2096721
But not sure if there are any major bugs or something.
This is the 4.2.X you suggested. Can´t find 4.3.X though.
What is the difference between them?
Maybe you can suggest one specific rom.
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i cant sugesst you a rom because i dont own the phone, i could look through the forums and show you one to test out but thats about it, 4.2.X and 4.3.X have just minor ui updates that can come in handy, just test a bunch of 4.1.X and 4.2.X and you can see the difference, i think 4.2.X added camera to the lockscreen and dropdown status bar different ui. you can check here to see some of the differences http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_version_history

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