Weight of the batteries Anker, Andida, Mugen Power etc.? the actual battery capacity. - Desire HD Accessories

You can roughly calculate the actual battery capacity.
Need to know the weight of the battery.
Who can tell what weight of these batteries? I think it might be useful to others.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=15848303
joshndroid said:
generally speaking the weight of the battery relates to the amount of li-ion in the battery (this can only be a generalization due to the casing of the battery and the like) but simply put the higher the weight the larger amount of li-ion in the battery which increases the Amp Hours; Ah
edit: so continuing on a 2300mAh battery should be heavier than a 1500mAh battery as it would have more li-ion in it
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mr.goodman said:
1gram battery ≈ 47mAh
I have 5 batteries.
Motorola BK60 930mAh Weight - 20g.
Motorola BC50 750mAh Weight - 16g.
Sony Ericsson BST-33 950mAh Weight - 20g.
Samsung sgh x160 800mAh Weight - 17g.
HTC Desire HD 1230mAh Weight - 26g.
930/20=46,5
750/16=46,8
950/20=47,5
800/17=47,0
1230/26=47,3
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This review is about the sensation's anker 1900mAh battery....not about the anker for the DHD!
http://reviewstash.com/viewtopic.php?id=1835
In there it says that the battery weighs 2.1 ounzes.
Le goog says that that's 59.5 grams.
59.5 grams * 47 mAh/gram = 2796.5 mAh
For a battery that's sold as 1900mAh.
Battery Monitor Widget calculated around 1550mAh for it (in my DHD with the 15% bug!)
I'm not saying you are wrong. Just saying that the math magic isn't really working in this case^^

Most likely is the weight of packaging. No net weight of the battery.
Search on amazon Anker-1900mAh-Battery-Sensation.
Here you can calculate. seems to be true.
donovanx3 said:
I have BXT'S extended model BP6X and am using it with my Motorola XT720. The BXT battery weighs in at 24g (it is rated at 2200 mAh) and the OEM BP6X weighs in at 28.7g (which is rated at 1390 mAh) I have used the battery for about a day (with the charge that it had shipped with) and it didn't last very long. I was also running a 1.2ghz overclock at the time so that could have contributed to it too. I believe however that I need to charge it for about 10 hours or so the first charge, just to make sure it has its full capacity. (which I have not done yet) I can give a full overview in a day or so if you guys would like.
This is the one I have:
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24gx47=1128
28.7gx47=1348,9

Is there any actual proof which says 47mAh=1 gram?

142.4 W/kg as shown in the list from LG, so quiet possible.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power-to-weight_ratio#.28Closed_cell.29_batteries

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Bigger battery, bigger back side. HTC Desire

Ok hello there!
Got a short Q.
Is there any bigger battery's for HTC desire? i can change the plastic backside so it gets thicker if needed..
Were ever i look i only find Seidio 1600mAh.. but wonder if there is even bigger.
Best regards Thomas
I asked mugen power batteries about this about a week ago. they will release a "standard" 1600mAh during may.
The extended battery was under processing. not surrme what that means
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hm. 200 more doesnt sound alot really.
I meen.. for if the phone is 2-3mm or even 5mm thicker does not matter for me.
and if soo maybe there is a 2000 or even 3000mAh avalible soon.
MVH Thomas
why need a larger battery? my desire last for hole 2 days with moderate to havy use. in light use I got up to 4 days.
jochr said:
I asked mugen power batteries about this about a week ago. they will release a "standard" 1600mAh during may.
The extended battery was under processing. not surrme what that means
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Mugen Power already has available a standard size 1600mAH battery for Nexus One and HTC Desire share the same battery. (same HTC model number)
1600 mAH?
Read this http://androidforums.com/htc-desire/66987-seidio-1600mah-extended-life-battery.html
And specially this http://batteryboss.org/
The OEM 1400 mAH is still better than 1600 mAH.
R3dD3vil said:
why need a larger battery? my desire last for hole 2 days with moderate to havy use. in light use I got up to 4 days.
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Well im often out in the nature.. fishing. and often gone for 5-6 days at the time.
Soo i dont want to carry 4 extra battey's..
There for im looking for a bigger battery IF there is any..I dont mind a thicker phone those times im away fishing/hiking.
I'm thinking on getting this. http://www.morpethmobiles.co.uk/proddetail.asp?prod=/143/RE_HTC_Desire
This should give me some 5-6 charges if I insert 4x 2000mA?
gogol said:
1600 mAH?
Read this http://androidforums.com/htc-desire/66987-seidio-1600mah-extended-life-battery.html
And specially this http://batteryboss.org/
The OEM 1400 mAH is still better than 1600 mAH.
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Mugen Power's 1300 mAH lasts longer that standard 1230 mAH (4-6 standby hours better) on my HD2. Hopefully the 1600 mAH for Desire lasts at least 10 hours more than original 1400mAH if has the same quality.
I don't know if Sedio it's a High or low quality bettery manufacter
Balos said:
I'm thinking on getting this. http://www.morpethmobiles.co.uk/proddetail.asp?prod=/143/RE_HTC_Desire
This should give me some 5-6 charges if I insert 4x 2000mA?
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It's looks nice .
But how that can be possible ?
It's look soo small and it's work with 4 X AA battery ?
seidioonline.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=BACY32HNX1-BK
This one.. may it work?
I am not sure, if you read the whole thread of this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5936653
You will find out some interesting facts and figures, from user experience.
One user tested:
After running first the 2400 mAh for a couple of days, and getting more and more suspicious about the claimed mAh, then the 2700 mAh one and getting even more dissatisfied with that one, I decided to run a simple test to confirm my suspicions. I decided to put brightness at max, bluetooth on, leave sync on, GPS on and start up the video streaming app Qik. I ran it with live GPS tracking and left it on my living room table until it ran out of juice. First up was the standard 1350 mAh battery, it managed 110 minutes. Then the claimed 2700 mAh one, it survived 118 minutes, and at last the claimed 2400 mAh one, that managed 115 minutes. And this confirms my suspicions almost exactly, although I must admit I felt the 2400 mAh one was a bit weaker than the stock one, and the 2700 one a tiny bit better. But anyway, its so close to my experienced feelings after running them for several days at work, with very equal usage each day, that made all of them last almost the hole 8-9 hours on one charge, that I will not bother to run any more tests. Its good enough for me. So that means my claimed 2400 mAh battery is only around 1400 mAh, and my 2700 one is also only around 1400 as well. And this is batteries that are around twice as thick!
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Don't know what brand of the battery though, but yeah be careful.
heavyhms said:
Mugen Power's 1300 mAH lasts longer that standard 1230 mAH (4-6 standby hours better) on my HD2. Hopefully the 1600 mAH for Desire lasts at least 10 hours more than original 1400mAH if has the same quality.
I don't know if Sedio it's a High or low quality bettery manufacter
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What about this solar charger ?
http://www.product-reviews.net/tag/devotec-solar-charger/
Dimensions: Length: 9.5 cm, width: 4.5 cm, thickness: 1 cm
I am not sure, if you read the whole thread of this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5936653
You will find out some interesting facts and figures, from user experience.
One user tested:
After running first the 2400 mAh for a couple of days, and getting more and more suspicious about the claimed mAh, then the 2700 mAh one and getting e
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Don't know what brand of the battery though, but yeah be careful.
Mugen Power's 1300 mAH lasts longer that standard 1230 mAH (4-6 standby hours better) on my HD2. Hopefully the 1600 mAH for Desire lasts at least 10 h
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Mugen Power are well-known Hi quality batteries: are not no-brand, cheap and over rated.
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Only real life test will prove it and there were some tests conducted in the threads. That's why I warned users here to check and read that threads.
Otherwise, it is your money, feel free to spend it though
I am here is to give other perspective / source of information to CHECK, and I believe there is nothing wrong with this.
Again, it is your money, it is up to you.
heavyhms said:
Mugen Power are well-known Hi quality batteries: are not no-brand, cheap and over rated.
Sent from my HTC Desire using the XDA mobile application powered by Tapatalk
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gogol said:
Only real life test will prove it and there were some tests conducted in the threads. That's why I warned users here to check and read that threads.
Otherwise, it is your money, feel free to spend it though
I am here is to give other perspective / source of information to CHECK, and I believe there is nothing wrong with this.
Again, it is your money, it is up to you.
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I'll test and report here... the HD2 version it's a good battery (no miracle, but noticeably better than original)
This external portable charger sounds promising. It has a claimed output rate of 700mA what is just as good as the original socket charger.
http://www.proporta.com/F02/PPF02P05.php?t_id=4662&t_mode=des
The other with AA batteries is questionable as I suspect it has not more then 200-300mA output juice which will take your desire 8+ hours to recharge fully if not touched. What is way to much if you ask me!
XCharmed said:
Well im often out in the nature.. fishing. and often gone for 5-6 days at the time.
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Have a look at this - exept you are fishing in the scottish highlands
Mugen Power Extended Battery for HTC Desire A8181 with battery cover in Brown 3200mAh

Yet another Battery Review thread

Batteries were bought from these sellers:
from hk_yuqian (1800mAH)
http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150541501350&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT
from emmaxie126 (1500mAH)
http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250755462532&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT
and the stock 1300mAH battery, one month old.
from chichitec (1800mAH Evo 4G)
http://www.htcexpress.com/batteries...-battery-sprint-verizon-incredible-droid.html
Capacities were measured down to 3.1V's (well below the point where you phone will no longer power up from the battery)
Stock battery capacity = 1099mAH
Anonymous 1500mAH = 990mAH (Only 843mAH on the second)
Anonymous 1800mAH = 1224mAH
Chichitec 1800mAH = 1386mAH
As a side note, the 1800mAH battery ordered from above had a space under the sticker to fill the battery up to the full form factor of the EVO, so a real 1800mAH battery will probably fair even better.
The discharge graph is attached
Bumping this because I cant believe you put up actual test and number and no one cares to blow this up like the 10 other threads!!.. Id love to know what the 1800 will be at in after a few charges? for 5ish bux its worth it to have an extra hour or two as long as it doesn't surprise you one day and last 2 hrs.
The fact it lasts longer than the stock battery by 20% is already rather nice for just $5.
For Archive Purpose
I will test the 1800 again in a few weeks.
However it is the 1500mAH ones that I worry about with their sporadic discharge pattern.
electro_mike said:
I order a spare battery for my new-to-me Desire Z, and bought the two pack of 1500mAH ones from ebay, then saw the thread on how the 1800mAH ones fit with a little work, so I decided to order one of those.
I bought the batteries from these sellers
from hk_yuqian (1800mAH)
http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150541501350&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT
from emmaxie126 (1500mAH)
http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250755462532&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT
and the stock 1300mAH battery, one month old.
Capacities were measured down to 3.1V's (well below the point where you phone will no longer power up from the battery)
Stock battery capacity = 1099mAH
Anonymous 1500mAH = 990mAH (Only 843mAH on the second)
Anonymous 1800mAH = 1224mAH
As a side note, the 1800mAH battery ordered from above had a space under the sticker to fill the battery up to the full form factor of the EVO, so a real 1800mAH battery will probably fair even better.
If someone wanted to send me a free one I would be glad to test it!
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I bought the 1800mAH battery from that seller, and under the sticker it clearly said '1200mAH', infact I have one sat next to me atm .
Jonno12345 said:
I bought the 1800mAH battery from that seller, and under the sticker it clearly said '1200mAH', infact I have one sat next to me atm .
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LOL. Well, at least that sticker is accurate.
Chichitec 1800mAH battery results
The Chichitec battery capacity is: 1386mAH
Have you had a chance to test the mugen 1800?
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How did you test it? I wouldn't mind being able to test a battery I've got coming to me.
I based the design off of this instructable:
http://www.instructables.com/id/Arduino-True-Battery-Capacity-Tester-Li-IonNiMH/
The thing about the design is that you have to calibrate it yourself, just once, because the code used on the arduino wants to know the exact resistance value of your dummy load.
You can google some ways to get a more accurate reading of your load to get truer numbers.
But with the original htc battery testing at 1100mAH's of its 1300maH's after several months of use, I figured mine was accurate enough.
But accuracy aside, it is very consistant. I checked the new battery twice, and it gave the exact same results each time. So all the results are highly accurate when just compairing to each other.
Awesome results ! Any info on the Mugen 1800 ?
I think I have enough batteries at the moment, so i can't justify the Mugen 1800. It was fun testing them all though and knowing exactly which one was the best.
Even I thought those first two 1500mAH batteries gave the "15% better battery life" than stock. So it is nice to take the guess work out of it and know it was all in my head.

[Q] New BXT 2300mAh Battery for HTC Sensation G14 Pyramid z710e

New 2300mAh Battery for HTC Sensation G14 Pyramid z710e
http://cgi.ebay.com/New-2300mAh-Bat...001344?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item3a684d53c0
What do you guys think is this another like other gold label battery, I have a no name 1800 mah but I want the biggest battery I could use my phone to the max!!!!
Gold label battery (I think)
http://cgi.ebay.com/GOLD-2430MAH-BA...060268?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item1e64e9c2ec
I have confidence in Japan made - will buy it now and see how it goes. Thanks for the link.
Anyone else tried this brand before?
Well I just bought one of the first one's. Kind of skeptical that it is rate almost 50% higher and looks to be the same size as stock. Also hope this fits... oh well. Says 5 - 10 business days so I will report back later.
Jamison904 said:
Well I just bought one of the first one's. Kind of skeptical that it is rate almost 50% higher and looks to be the same size as stock. Also hope this fits... oh well. Says 5 - 10 business days so I will report back later.
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Ask the seller if he could weigh it for you
Seller said 29g, while chichitec and anker is 34, stock battery is 29 aswell heavier means better batterytime
I thought someone bought these gold ones and said they were crap.
azelexx said:
I have confidence in Japan made - will buy it now and see how it goes. Thanks for the link.
Anyone else tried this brand before?
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it's made by a chinese company
gottabekin said:
I thought someone bought these gold ones and said they were crap.
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BUt this isn't the gold one although i bet it's made at the same factory, oh the gold battery weigh in at 27 Lol i had a gold battery but got a full refund, so i opened it up, and there was a small battery inside, with a spacer built around it!
Really?! Oh lame...it's shipped.
I guess the only way to find out is to test it and form my own verdict.
can someone explain me technically how the weight of the battery relates to the performance.
apart from getting a case with a smaller battery inside.
SNK180 said:
can someone explain me technically how the weight of the battery relates to the performance.
apart from getting a case with a smaller battery inside.
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generally speaking the weight of the battery relates to the amount of li-ion in the battery (this can only be a generalization due to the casing of the battery and the like) but simply put the higher the weight the larger amount of li-ion in the battery which increases the Amp Hours; Ah
edit: so continuing on a 2300mAh battery should be heavier than a 1500mAh battery as it would have more li-ion in it
so anyone got one this already and tested it out
I have BXT'S extended model BP6X and am using it with my Motorola XT720. The BXT battery weighs in at 24g (it is rated at 2200 mAh) and the OEM BP6X weighs in at 28.7g (which is rated at 1390 mAh) I have used the battery for about a day (with the charge that it had shipped with) and it didn't last very long. I was also running a 1.2ghz overclock at the time so that could have contributed to it too. I believe however that I need to charge it for about 10 hours or so the first charge, just to make sure it has its full capacity. (which I have not done yet) I can give a full overview in a day or so if you guys would like.
This is the one I have:
http://cgi.ebay.com/2200mAh-High-Ba...Accessories&hash=item3a6712c73b#ht_2876wt_952
Seeing as it weighs less and claims its 2300 mah I call this battery a load of crap like the other 2300 mah battery. It prolly has spacers around a smaller battery.
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claud_face said:
Seeing as it weighs less and claims its 2300 mah I call this battery a load of crap like the other 2300 mah battery. It prolly has spacers around a smaller battery.
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Yes, that is probably true. I have also heard reports of android's battery meter not correctly read the % of battery power on these BXT extended batteries but it may vary from phone to phone so people will have to test it out on their devices. What the report said was that the battery would quickly drop to 25% and then it would take HOURS to drop to 0% but low battery messages would pop up frequently during that time because the phone believed the battery was that low, even though the actual battery % was not that low because it was just incorrectly reading it. I could not tell yet from a few hours of use whether or not I experienced this problem with my BXT BP6X.
Don't buy bxt 2300 mah
I ordered this BXT 2300mAh battery on July 21st 2011.
1st of all it came after 15 long days of waiting.
and when it finally arrived the battery was non functional. DOA
(that might be a one time thing)
But what's really surprising is the weight. As someone mentioned before; if the battery is more powerful it should be heavier. So, a 2300mAh should have more li-ion and should be quite a bit heavier then 1520mAh Stock. right?
(someone correct me if I'm wrong)
well this battery doesn't even weigh as much as the stock.
my conclusion: FAKE FAKE FAKE!!!
I just filed a PayPal claim to get a full refund.
Don't be sucked into buying this battery!
Guys, sorry to resurrect this thread but I've just got one of these with the Sensation I've just bought.
It weighs 34g exactly the same as the Anker I've got. Bot tried the Anker yet so can't compare how they both perform.
1gram battery ≈ 47mAh
I have 5 batteries.
Motorola BK60 930mAh Weight - 20g.
Motorola BC50 750mAh Weight - 16g.
Sony Ericsson BST-33 950mAh Weight - 20g.
Samsung sgh x160 800mAh Weight - 17g.
HTC Desire HD 1230mAh Weight - 26g.
930/20=46,5
750/16=46,8
950/20=47,5
800/17=47,0
1230/26=47,3

Does anyone have experience with Hyperion Micropack or other high mAh batteries?

Amazon has a Hyperion Micro pack battery which claims to have 3800mah packed into the size of the original s5 battery size (2800mah). Does anyone have any experience with these type of batteries ? Do they deliver or is it just fake hype?
Thanks
Definitely fake hype, there's no way they can pack 35% more juice in the same space. There's a thread regarding a "4300mAh" battery where the poster said it was better than the stock battery.
I do think they are just a tad bit thicker than the original battery, probably by a hair so I wouldn't be surprised if it was really a 2900-3000mAh battery which would give you the impression battery life is slightly better.
WillTheGreat said:
Definitely fake hype, there's no way they can pack 35% more juice in the same space. There's a thread regarding a "4300mAh" battery where the poster said it was better than the stock battery.
I do think they are just a tad bit thicker than the original battery, probably by a hair so I wouldn't be surprised if it was really a 2900-3000mAh battery which would give you the impression battery life is slightly better.
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Do you have experience with these type of batteries or are you just assuming?
I have it. Came in the mail today. Bought 2x Micropack with wall charger. Label says capacity is 3800mah which I know is BS, but I needed extra batteries. I'm testing it out now.
Some notes comparing with OEM.
- NFC works
- Same dimensions
- It's weight is lighter.
- Drains ( percentage wise) faster.
- On first charge, charged faster.
My initial impressions tell me it's mah capacity is lower than OEM. I'll see if performance improves or not after a few more charge cycles.
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Do you have experience with these type of batteries or are you just assuming?
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What's there to assume? Hyperion is a good company, but mAh rating is clearly subjective to them especially in the case of these batteries. Just Google search it if you don't believe me, it is fact that it's impossible to have that much higher capacity in the same battery size made with the same metals.
I had a 3800 mAh Hyperion battery for my S3 and it was fantastic.

Highest capacity standard sized battery for the V10

The battery in my V10 is 3000 mAh. I saw one on Ebay that claimed 3800 mAh. Is that possible in a battery this size? I know a lot of off brand name batteries inflate the numbers to sell them. I wonder if this is the same. Do any of you have a standard slim battery that is over 3000 mAh?
There is batterys for the LG V10 that can go up to 9000 mAh and higher. They are NOT inflated numbers. The only thing about these batterys is that you will have to have a thicker case.
3800mah EBay battery
mikekoz said:
The battery in my V10 is 3000 mAh. I saw one on Ebay that claimed 3800 mAh. Is that possible in a battery this size? I know a lot of off brand name batteries inflate the numbers to sell them. I wonder if this is the same. Do any of you have a standard slim battery that is over 3000 mAh?
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I tried it but the stock battery lasted longer. I don't recommend it and if anyone else finds a another brand let me know. I'm always willing to try all available options
ZVNexus said:
There is batterys for the LG V10 that can go up to 9000 mAh and higher. They are NOT inflated numbers. The only thing about these batterys is that you will have to have a thicker case.
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Right now I want a standard sized battery, highest capacity possible. I have only seen one option like you are referring to, and I do not like the case. We will probably see more options in the future as this is still a new phone model.
mikekoz said:
Right now I want a standard sized battery, highest capacity possible. I have only seen one option like you are referring to, and I do not like the case. We will probably see more options in the future as this is still a new phone model.
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I am sorry to say, but until the technology progresses, the battery will only increase in size as the mAh increases. IF the 3800 battery you speak of is the same size as the stock battery, it is bull**** and will not be 3800 mAh. If its a shady seller, it could be a even less than stock. Please be wary of these people in the future.
ZVNexus said:
I am sorry to say, but until the technology progresses, the battery will only increase in size as the mAh increases. IF the 3800 battery you speak of is the same size as the stock battery, it is bull**** and will not be 3800 mAh. If its a shady seller, it could be a even less than stock. Please be wary of these people in the future.
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I agree with you 100%! I am still willing to bet that a battery can be made with a higher capacity than the stock one, and have the battery size stay the same. There is a limit to how much capacity can be squeezed into a battery this size, and as you say, when that is exceeded, the battery size has to increase. I just have not owned a mobile phone in a few years that had a removable battery. I was able to find higher capacity, standard sized ones in my other phones, just hoping I will find one for the V10 that is actually the rating on the battery. Amazon has several that are rated as 3300 mAh, but I am not sure if the performance difference on those would be noticeable, even assuming that the specs are legit. If somebody comes out with a super high capacity larger battery with a good case, I may try that.
Well 3300mAh is maybe real. I noticed that the stock battery continues to charge for around 1 to 1.5 hours after you see the "battery charge complete" message. Looking at the charge current with abttery monitor widget it looks like the stock battery when charged fully till charge current becomes zero has in fact 3200 to 3300 mAh capacity. When i do this i also see that my battery sits at 100% for several hours before starting to drop which confirms that. So maybe these 3300mAh batteries are really with such capacity but nevertheless they will not give you better battery life than the stock battery.

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