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Touch Cruise, HSDPA, Tmobile, US or EU?

I recently purchased an HTC Touch Cruise from phonesource-USA without doing my homework. (What can I say, I was overwhelmed by the coolness of the phone). Before this phone, I was using an Excalibur and a Titan from HTC. I think I already know the answer to this question, but wanted to ask the home experts out there.
I absolutely love this phone, but am I screwed on 3G when T-Mobile releases it this year?
P.S. I'm located in the U.S.

wagz said:
I recently purchased an HTC Touch Cruise from phonesource-USA without doing my homework. (What can I say, I was overwhelmed by the coolness of the phone). Before this phone, I was using an Excalibur and a Titan from HTC. I think I already know the answer to this question, but wanted to ask the home experts out there.
I absolutely love this phone, but am I screwed on 3G when T-Mobile releases it this year?
P.S. I'm located in the U.S.
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T-Mobile USA Will use 1700mHz band for 3G and according to some sources it will use 2100mHz to. Witch T-Mobile say it will not have full experience of there 3G. But it will work.
And i think it will be possible to use Radio from Sony X1 witch have same Chip sets and everything except screen.

AT&T 3G
I think I may be in the same boat. I did read up on the phone before I bought it to work on At&t's 3G network. Even thought the phone operates on 1900mghz I have not been able to get it working. It always is on the Edge network.

sultanofsumar said:
I think I may be in the same boat. I did read up on the phone before I bought it to work on At&t's 3G network. Even thought the phone operates on 1900mghz I have not been able to get it working. It always is on the Edge network.
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are you saying you have not been able to get the phone to work on att's 3G network? i've read on howard forums where other owners are seeing the "H" and "3G", suggesting that others have been able to connect...

3G
That's exactly what I am saying. I have had it configured to the correct frequency for AT&T's 3G since I turned it on. The very first time I put it on 1900 MGHZ I did see a H and then a G, but I'm sure the G was for GSM.

sultanofsumar said:
That's exactly what I am saying. I have had it configured to the correct frequency for AT&T's 3G since I turned it on. The very first time I put it on 1900 MGHZ I did see a H and then a G, but I'm sure the G was for GSM.
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When you say "configured to the correct frequency for att's 3G", did you manually set the Band to 1900 mHz? or do you have it set to Automatic? for all my HTC devices that support 3G, i set the Band to Automatic and it will pick up and use the att 3G/H band automatically. i only see the "H" when i'm tethered to my laptop or downloading a 1 meg + file.

att 3g
I did it manually. I figured it wouldn't work on auto. I will try the auto detect and see what happens.

3g is up
Well it says G right now, but not 3G. I know I have crappy reception here so maybe it will change. Thanks though.

yep... having good HSDPA/UMTS coverage is a must to access the network. if it says "G", you're using GPRS, "E", you're using Edge, "3G", you're using UMTS, "H" you're using HSDPA. you might check att's website to see if you have high-speed coverage in your location. every HTC 3G capable device (e.g., supports Triband HSDPA) that i've purchased has always connected to att's network with the "Auto" Band setting...

kolobok01 said:
T-Mobile USA Will use 1700mHz band for 3G and according to some sources it will use 2100mHz to. Witch T-Mobile say it will not have full experience of there 3G. But it will work.
And i think it will be possible to use Radio from Sony X1 witch have same Chip sets and everything except screen.
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Ah this sucks. Why can't America just use the same frequencies as the rest of the world. I don't want to have to purchase another expensive phone right after purchasing this one. Looks like a Sony X1 will eventually be in my future
Thanks for the reply.

3G???
I had it on auto all day, but no little 3G icon. I know there is coverage, becuase my TYTN and even my blackjack picked it up right away. I guess I'll just keep looking..........

AT&T 3G
I am usually indicating 3G or H. I have it set to auto and it semms to be working fine for me.

mpf54 said:
I am usually indicating 3G or H. I have it set to auto and it semms to be working fine for me.
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I too have found you need to leave the phone set to Auto. A soft reset after you change it from manual selection to auto gets me the 3G back immediately on boot up.

ATT 3G
I have ATT 3G & H in some areas when I travel but my home area does not have 3G coverage only EDGE at the moment. It depends on ATT's coverage whether you will get 3G or H. The phone is fully capable to work with ATT.

got my Orbit 2 today, and HSDPA & UMTS are working fine (in dallas)...

using a polaris with at&t in buffalo, ny. 3g and HSPDA work fine in most areas. sometimes if i go deep within a building it will swtich to edge which is normal.

3G!
cortezzi said:
When you say "configured to the correct frequency for att's 3G", did you manually set the Band to 1900 mHz? or do you have it set to Automatic? for all my HTC devices that support 3G, i set the Band to Automatic and it will pick up and use the att 3G/H band automatically. i only see the "H" when i'm tethered to my laptop or downloading a 1 meg + file.
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Well now that I put everything on auto and soft reset I am gettin 3G and H UMPTS all over the place. Thanks!

Telus cdma + rogers gsm

I'm trying out a new TP2-CDMA from Telus (Canada) and this is by far the best system I could ever try in my case. I've always been a GSM user (since 1994) mostly because it gives you the latitude of using what ever device you want just by inserting your SIM card. so I got the Phone Inserted my Rogers SIM in it and it got me on the Rogers network right away I then activated the phone on the Telus network and it is also working fine... of course...
But the best thing is that I set it on "Global" network and it stays on GSM (Rogers), and when I get to an area where there is no GSM signal it switches by it self to the CDMA (Telus) network!!! this is amazing! NO MORE DEAD SPOTS! Of course you need to have two Service contract from two different service provider, but if you absolutely need to get service in areas where your current provider does not offer any, well it sure beats the hell out of having two different cellphone in your pocket... I have set my main cell number to transfer to the other on "No Answer after X # rings" and I get all my calls no mater what network I'm on!
The only down side to this TP2-CDMA Unit is that Telus got rid of a bunch of stuff that is in the TP2-GSM... like the GPS for instance... Well I guess you can't have it all...
I got Bing to work... so there is a GPS.... but Google Maps won't work...
Just thought I'd share my joy...

there is a telus gps registry fix on pccgeeks.

GPS works... i have google maps, tomtom7, and bing running fine, but sometimes, getting a lock can take very long
still new to winmo, so not too much going on with the phone, but am learning =b

zedex26, you are right!! there is a GPS!
The only thing is that I can't make Google Maps to work... it instals but when starting it it keeps on saying Loading... and never opens.
Anyway now were talking!! it has almost everything I was used to... But NO "Camera Flash" not that it was so usefull as camera flash but as a "FlashLite" it was...

patrickrivard said:
zedex26, you are right!! there is a GPS!
The only thing is that I can't make Google Maps to work... it instals but when starting it it keeps on saying Loading... and never opens.
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in google map
go to menu -- option -- gps setting -- use manual com 4
go back in option select "use gps"
close
reset your device
should work

inspireqc,
I finally got GM to work... Don't know why but the device needed to be on the CDMA network in order for the program to load... because on the GSM network, the program does not even load... it keeps on saying "Loding" and I could not even access the program... It's like it does not see the data connection...
Anyway There are other maping SW that work very well on both network on that particular device.

patrickrivard said:
inspireqc,
I finally got GM to work... Don't know why but the device needed to be on the CDMA network in order for the program to load... because on the GSM network, the program does not even load... it keeps on saying "Loding" and I could not even access the program... It's like it does not see the data connection...
Anyway There are other maping SW that work very well on both network on that particular device.
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I've found that I have to manually switch the data connection in order to use Google Maps when I switch between GSM and CDMA. It does work w/ both, however it's much better when I'm on Telus b/c this TP2 can't use Rogers 3G network. Keeping my fingers crossed for when they finally crack this baby open and hopefully find that the North American 3G freqs are there.

patrickrivard said:
I'm trying out a new TP2-CDMA from Telus (Canada) and this is by far the best system I could ever try in my case. I've always been a GSM user (since 1994) mostly because it gives you the latitude of using what ever device you want just by inserting your SIM card. so I got the Phone Inserted my Rogers SIM in it and it got me on the Rogers network right away I then activated the phone on the Telus network and it is also working fine... of course...
But the best thing is that I set it on "Global" network and it stays on GSM (Rogers), and when I get to an area where there is no GSM signal it switches by it self to the CDMA (Telus) network!!! this is amazing! NO MORE DEAD SPOTS! Of course you need to have two Service contract from two different service provider, but if you absolutely need to get service in areas where your current provider does not offer any, well it sure beats the hell out of having two different cellphone in your pocket... I have set my main cell number to transfer to the other on "No Answer after X # rings" and I get all my calls no mater what network I'm on!
The only down side to this TP2-CDMA Unit is that Telus got rid of a bunch of stuff that is in the TP2-GSM... like the GPS for instance... Well I guess you can't have it all...
I got Bing to work... so there is a GPS.... but Google Maps won't work...
Just thought I'd share my joy...
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I have both iGuidance 4 and Google Maps working, I am aware that some people have it working out of the box and some don't

Did you have to sim-unlock your phone first?
My friend looked up the technical specs of our chipset and they do support North American HSPA but it is not available, either by a hardware or firmware\software lock.

WOW
GSM and CDMA both work... that's fantastic.
Does this mean that it hold 2 different SIM cards? Or is the CDMA part devoid of a SIM card?
Would it be possible to use a GSM SIM card from any provider around the world and reconfiure the CDMA part to work with any CDMA network around the world?

julienrl said:
Did you have to sim-unlock your phone first?
My friend looked up the technical specs of our chipset and they do support North American HSPA but it is not available, either by a hardware or firmware\software lock.
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I have heard its a hardware lock! Wish someone can unlock it...

ai6908 said:
I have heard its a hardware lock! Wish someone can unlock it...
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well i would think it would be a radio issue have the same with mine. use it strict on rogers. i also looked up a little but the tp2 telus is 800 and 1900mhz hspa and rogers system is 850 and 1900mhz hspa so the frequency may be a issue as well.

anyone know how to fix the caller id name problem while on gsm?

Canadian folks, or TP2 users in CA, i have a Sprint TP2 thAT i would like to get to work in CA, what is the best scenario for both voice and data,thanks a lot

hbenz2008 said:
Canadian folks, or TP2 users in CA, i have a Sprint TP2 thAT i would like to get to work in CA, what is the best scenario for both voice and data,thanks a lot
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for sprint phone i would stick to telus or bell unless you can put a sim card in your phone then your looking at rogers and the cdma global phone wont work on 3g rogers just edge

Thanks hiwire men, Sprint TP2 is a World phone as you know and will take any SIM, so you saying it wont get 3G with Rogers? why is that, is it Rogers or what is the reason? and hand how is Telus and Bell do it, they just input it in their database and bam, or will it require some ROM flashing. thxxx

hbenz2008 said:
Thanks hiwire men, Sprint TP2 is a World phone as you know and will take any SIM, so you saying it wont get 3G with Rogers? why is that, is it Rogers or what is the reason? and hand how is Telus and Bell do it, they just input it in their database and bam, or will it require some ROM flashing. thxxx
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after reading up if you want 3g on rogers network you need a tilt 2 do to the fact rogers uses umts/wcdma 850/1900 mhz sprint is 900/1900 BUT the edge network will work on your sprint phone to rogers other then that it is it. rogers is doing alot of work on their 3g network and i think most of the fido network is 1900 mhz and rogers is 850mhz 3g but i think personally it may work in the future but not gonna be anytime soon. The 3g should work on telus and bell and might on fido ill have to see my friend and try it out. but i know for sure right now it dont work with rogers.

thank again, I do not have any FIDO preference, I assume coverage with Telus or Bell are about the same.So just walk the TP2 to the TELUS or Bell store and it is done?

hbenz2008 said:
thank again, I do not have any FIDO preference, I assume coverage with Telus or Bell are about the same.So just walk the TP2 to the TELUS or Bell store and it is done?
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thats right i would say telus since sprint is a partner

Highwired, did u get a chance to try out TP2 on Fido? am still reading elsewhere that sPRINT tp2 can't get 3G in CA, WTH

Telus Milestone problem with 3G

Hi,
I just bought a Telus Milestone while in Canada las week, I bought it from a Best Buy store in Toronto.
I live in Costa Rica and we use 850mhz 3G band but for some reason is not picking up 3G band only GSM with EDGE data connection.
I already try the "WCDMA only" option but still not working it goes out of service.
Is there anything different in Telus 3G network that could be not compatible here?. All of the iPhones 3G and 3GS work here with no problems, same as some other ATT phones.
According to the FCC my phone supports 850mhz 3G band.
Behind the battery it says: FCC IHDP56KC5
And according to FCC documentation it supports WCDMA 850/1900/2100 plus HSDPA 10.2 mbps
So, I don't know what's going on...
Hope somebody can help me, I heard there is a Field Test hidden option on the phone that can show some troubleshooting information, but I don't know how to access it.
Thanks for the help,
Luis

Planning to buy one too, so it'd be handy to know what's going on there. I take it you bought it unlocked? Also, is the APN and all that setup correctly? How do you have it setup, is it one of the new 3G phone lines or an old GSM one (which are capable of 3G as well)?

I have the exact same problem down in Mexico, I just received an unlocked Telus Milestone and all I get is edge. I am using the same APN configuration that I have on my Rogers Dream (G1) and I do get 3G on that one.
Also, I believe this forums are for HTC phones only, I'm not sure we'll get lots of help here on a Moto issue.

Mine does work on HSPA+ here on Telus.
Just a hypothesis would be: Since it has only been released on HSDPA/HSPA+ network in Canada, they haven't done proper testing on 3G mode and there is a bug in 3G only mode.
Like I said, I can't say for sure since the only other GSM network we have here is rogers which is mixed 3G and HSPA+.
On second thought, I do have a Fido/Rogers SIM lying around so I'll give it a shot over the weekend and let you guys know.

Thanks Ady, it does sound like a compatibility issue. I have tried Telcel, I should be able to try ATT in the US next week.
Other than the 3G issue, this phone very darn nice... way faster than the dream, Multitouch work's great ont the browser.

yeah, its really good.
Update: I gave fido a try and it seems to be working, but on HSPA.

I bought it locked to Telus, and got the unlock code from "UnlockMotoDroid"
My SIM card is one of the old GSM ones, but I already try the new 3G SIM Cards (kolby3g) and same problem, only EDGE data connection. APN and all that is correct.
pasker17, I'll love to hear if you find a solution. Keep me posted.
Ady, agree with you, other than the 3G issue, this phone is pretty awesome..!!! Hope I can find a fix soon. I'm wondering if this could be related to the HSPA+ advanced technology that might not be compatible here, but as far as I know it should be backwards compatible with any other 3G technology.
And also, I heard people is using it with AT&T no problems, 3G data speed. Do they have HSPA+ ?
Thanks for your help guys

AllI can tell you guys is ther eis something diffrent with Radio signal we are using here ( Canada ) and the one in South America, I been tryin to use Latam f/w on my stone and no signal aty all whatsoever , so th eother way around doesnt work , they must be something we are missing about network compatibility , 1 thing I am sure Telus 's 3g network is the new HSPA .

double post sry .

DAG,
Yes, maybe there is some sort of advanced HSPA+ network in Canada, and that might be the reason is not working in some other places.
But as far as I know, all those HSPA+ flavors, should be backwards compatible.
Now I wish Motorola frees the bootloeader and I can try it with some other custom ROM.

LuisoCR said:
DAG,
Yes, maybe there is some sort of advanced HSPA+ network in Canada, and that might be the reason is not working in some other places.
But as far as I know, all those HSPA+ flavors, should be backwards compatible.
Now I wish Motorola frees the bootloeader and I can try it with some other custom ROM.
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That wouldn't be it. If you the iPhone works in Costa Rica the Milestone should work.
Have you called ICE? From the very brief info I can find on how to get the iPhone to work in Costa Rica it almost appears that ICE itself has to approved the devices on its network. Apparently they have approved the iPhone. I assume they'd do it via IMEI

AverageCanadian said:
That wouldn't be it. If you the iPhone works in Costa Rica the Milestone should work.
Have you called ICE? From the very brief info I can find on how to get the iPhone to work in Costa Rica it almost appears that ICE itself has to approved the devices on its network. Apparently they have approved the iPhone. I assume they'd do it via IMEI
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Yes and no, you do need to provide an IMEI to get your data plan working, but it should work with any device. I did it when I had a 3GS and have used my SIM on other phones and 3G works normally when setting my old apn. This is indeed bizarre

I called ICE, and went to their offices. Milestone is not
in the "approved list" so they won't even take a look. Same with the iPhones they work fine but are not "approved".
They already got my Milestone's IMEI registered on the system.
At the end they told me that this could be a software incompatibility but since the phone is not "in the approve list" there is nothing else to do or test for them.
Since this phone for sure supports 850mhz 3g band, I'm starting to think that it could be a software thing.
I'll be in the US in a couple of week and will try to test it on ATT, I heard a lot of people are using Canadian Milestone there with full 3G speeds

LuisoCR said:
I called ICE, and went to their offices. Milestone is not
in the "approved list" so they won't even take a look. Same with the iPhones they work fine but are not "approved".
They already got my Milestone's IMEI registered on the system.
At the end they told me that this could be a software incompatibility but since the phone is not "in the approve list" there is nothing else to do or test for them.
Since this phone for sure supports 850mhz 3g band, I'm starting to think that it could be a software thing.
I'll be in the US in a couple of week and will try to test it on ATT, I heard a lot of people are using Canadian Milestone there with full 3G speeds
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I take it you've tested known-working SIM cards and all (not only Kolbi ones), I know for a fact that mine works with APN: icecelular, if you care to give it a try with mine, let me know and we can arrange something. I really want to buy a Milestone and want to know if it works with 3g here or not

I've tested GSM Sim Cards (green and pink) and kolbi3g SIM cards, all of them with data enabled, not of them works with 3G data speed only EDGE.

LuisoCR said:
I've tested GSM Sim Cards (green and pink) and kolbi3g SIM cards, all of them with data enabled, not of them works with 3G data speed only EDGE.
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OK then, if you've tested with apn:icecelular for the old GSM ones, and kolbi3g for the new ones, then I guess it's something specific to the phone, but this is extremely strange. :S

Great... is working now in full 3G speed.
I just applied the Barazilian update to 2.0.1 and my radio baseband was changed. And now I can get full 3g data speeds and I have an "H" symbol on top

LuisoCR said:
Great... is working now in full 3G speed.
I just applied the Barazilian update to 2.0.1 and my radio baseband was changed. And now I can get full 3g data speeds and I have an "H" symbol on top
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How did you do this? I already ordered mine so as soon as it gets here I want to give it a try

Take a look at this thread
http://alldroid.org/threads/15924-Rooting-Telus-Milestone
They will tell you how to do it and even how to get root access, everybody is doing this in Canada and I already got root access on mine.
Let me know if you need some help

LuisoCR said:
Great... is working now in full 3G speed.
I just applied the Barazilian update to 2.0.1 and my radio baseband was changed. And now I can get full 3g data speeds and I have an "H" symbol on top
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That's great news, guess it was software. haha.

not getting a signal abroad

I am currently in Japan with my htc inspire and I am not getting any signal at all. I tried resetting and going into the settings menu to change the "network operator" but its greyed out.
does anyone know what I am doing wrong? I desperately need it to work here and I have the international plan activated on my account.

bigneeker said:
I am currently in Japan with my htc inspire and I am not getting any signal at all. I tried resetting and going into the settings menu to change the "network operator" but its greyed out.
does anyone know what I am doing wrong? I desperately need it to work here and I have the international plan activated on my account.
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Well in Japan you wont get 3g due to Japan using 2100mhz and The Inspire does not have that freq built in. You should get a call signal. Make sure you enable international roaming on your account. Or if your phone is unlocked buy a local sim card and pop it in.

I enabled international roaming on my account and have the $6 plan added for cheaper international roaming service.
I don't need 3g, just a phone signal to make calls and receive texts. but all I get is a "x |on top.
I have travelled to countless countries with my other unlocked phones and have never had a problem with my phone not picking up a signal.
is it possible that because I changed to a 3g sim card, it doesn't work abroad?

japan does not have gsm EDGE coverage i dont believe. they do have 3G HSDPA, but on 2100mHz, which the inspire does not have. so you are kinda out of luck i'm afraid.

Verified with AT&T's tool here
http://www.wireless.att.com/travelguide/coverage/roaming/step1.jsp
The Inspire doesn't get voice or data in Japan

Had the same problem in Korea last week - sucked big time. How can they call it a world phone and leave out 2100!!!!

That is absolutely terrible and false advertising since Japan and Korea re left out which are huge territories. I also have an unlocked samsung vibrant that I need to charge to see if it works.
Does anyone know if the vibrant has the right frequencies for Japan?

bigneeker said:
That is absolutely terrible and false advertising since Japan and Korea re left out which are huge territories. I also have an unlocked samsung vibrant that I need to charge to see if it works.
Does anyone know if the vibrant has the right frequencies for Japan?
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According to the same tool I previously posted, the Captivate will work in Japan and South Korea
Edit: Oh, Vibrant... hold on
Don't know about the Vibrant, does it have the 2100 frequency? If so, then probably yes

Yeah I still can't believe this phone left out the 2100 frequency. I posted about this a few weeks ago and still can't believe I didn't notice that it didn't have the 2100 when I bought it, as I travel to Japan quite often.
I don't like the Atrix and the Infuse 4G isn't out yet so I'm just waiting it out until some better phones come out and will just use a older phone in the interim. Those both support 2100 apparently. Kind of ridiculous that HTC left it out of this phone.
Just did a quick search and it looks like the Vibrant does have 2100 UMTS support.
Sprint CDMA works in Tokyo (and possibly Verizon). Not sure what carrier it uses but it does work for voice only. Probably not much help though.

[Q] GSM 1700/2100 Question

I'm having trouble finding a definitive answer to this so hopefully someone knows about this stuff. My carrier uses SIM technology and it's 3G uses 1700 and 2100 bands. I'm wanting to find out which of the newer/higher end android phones I could use for their service and actually be able to use both bands. Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!

Willieumm said:
I'm having trouble finding a definitive answer to this so hopefully someone knows about this stuff. My carrier uses SIM technology and it's 3G uses 1700 and 2100 bands. I'm wanting to find out which of the newer/higher end android phones I could use for their service and actually be able to use both bands. Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!
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Those are T-Mobile bands so you are more fortunate than me. You can use the amazing new HTC Sensation with those bands. Unfortunately my carrier, AT&T, doesn't use those bands and I'm not able to yet get a Sensation. You can pretty much choose any T-Mobile phone. They have LG GX2, Samsung Galaxy S 4G and the HTC Sensation and the Sensation is HTC's flagship phone and highly valued.

Like he said, basically any T-Mobile 3G device will work for you.

I notice most of their phones don't have 1700 listed on their bands though. Does that mean I can or can't use them?

Willieumm said:
I notice most of their phones don't have 1700 listed on their bands though. Does that mean I can or can't use them?
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Yes, you can use them with full 3G speed...4G if your service provides it.
By the way, you'll need to unlock any T-Mobile branded phone. Simple to do just by calling T-Mobile CS for the sim unlock code.

So the phone I buy just needs to have either one of the two 3g bands I take it? I guess I screwed up because I bought an unlocked Inspire off eBay and when I put my sim card in I got no data at all, not even edge. So if I was to find an Incredible S unlocked I could use that correct?

Willieumm said:
So the phone I buy just needs to have either one of the two 3g bands I take it? I guess I screwed up because I bought an unlocked Inspire off eBay and when I put my sim card in I got no data at all, not even edge. So if I was to find an Incredible S unlocked I could use that correct?
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Well...Edge isn't locked down like HSPA (3G) is. As long as the phone is a GSM version, Edge should work fine, if the service is putting it out. What you likely are needing to do with your Inspire is input the proper APN settings. And also make sure the mobile data is enabled.
Go to "Setting" > "Wireless and Networks" > "Mobile settings" and see if the top box is checked. If not, check it. Then, still in that same menu, go to "Access Point Names" and see what is there. If there isn't an APN there relating to your carrier, make one by tapping the menu button and choosing new APN. Input the correct carrier values from the list in the link below. Once done, tap the menu button and choose "Save". Make sure that new APN you just created is selected...usually a small green dot to the right side of it.
http://forums.pinstack.com/f24/tcp_apn_wap_gateway_port_carrier_settings-360/

I told you wrong for the Inspire about the menu system. I just booted mine up and had a look. You will find the data checkbox in "Settings" > "Wireless and Networks" labeled "Mobile network".

MartyLK said:
Well...Edge isn't locked down like HSPA (3G) is. As long as the phone is a GSM version, Edge should work fine, if the service is putting it out. What you likely are needing to do with your Inspire is input the proper APN settings. And also make sure the mobile data is enabled.
Go to "Setting" > "Wireless and Networks" > "Mobile settings" and see if the top box is checked. If not, check it. Then, still in that same menu, go to "Access Point Names" and see what is there. If there isn't an APN there relating to your carrier, make one by tapping the menu button and choosing new APN. Input the correct carrier values from the list in the link below. Once done, tap the menu button and choose "Save". Make sure that new APN you just created is selected...usually a small green dot to the right side of it.
http://forums.pinstack.com/f24/tcp_apn_wap_gateway_port_carrier_settings-360/
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The company I'm trying to use this with is called iWireless. They aren't on that list but I had found the apn settings by googling it and I did input them just as you suggested and selected them with the little green dot and no such luck. I even rebooted the phone twice. I'm sad cuz I love the Inspire, I rooted it and put a Sense 3D rom on it that I'm in love with. I want to stay with the carrier though cause they have the cheapest thing around, $50 a month unlimited everything including minutes, data, mms & sms. Can't beat it. But there's not many devices as well supported as the Inspire and I really can't stand anything but HTC after having a Motorola Cliq and Samsung Epic both of which I hated.

Willieumm said:
The company I'm trying to use this with is called iWireless. They aren't on that list but I had found the apn settings by googling it and I did input them just as you suggested and selected them with the little green dot and no such luck. I even rebooted the phone twice. I'm sad cuz I love the Inspire, I rooted it and put a Sense 3D rom on it that I'm in love with. I want to stay with the carrier though cause they have the cheapest thing around, $50 a month unlimited everything including minutes, data, mms & sms. Can't beat it. But there's not many devices as well supported as the Inspire and I really can't stand anything but HTC after having a Motorola Cliq and Samsung Epic both of which I hated.
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Have you tried these settings: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5328920&postcount=255
Or: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5531081&postcount=256
Or: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5601789&postcount=259

MartyLK said:
Have you tried these settings: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5328920&postcount=255
Or: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5531081&postcount=256
Or: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5601789&postcount=259
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Yeah I did use those same settings on my Inspire and no such luck. I did just happen to run across this on the iWireless website however.
"Will any 3G GSM phones get 3G speeds on the i wireless 3G network?
No. Our 3G network will only support AWS/UMTS 1700/2100 banded phones. 3G devices that only have the 2100 band will not be compatible on our 3G network."
http://www.iwireless.com/promoform.asp?promo=3G
So am I wrong in taking that to mean that whatever phone I buy actually has to support both 1700 and 2100 bands in order for me to get 3G upload and download speeds? If so my options will be very limited I'm sure. :\

Okay, so from what I've learned between reading and what you've told me and what I know I want I've pretty much come to the conclusion that I'm gonna want an Incredible S or a Sensation as those are pretty much the only HTC phones that appear to cover 2100 (band 1) and 1700/2100 (band 4) which is what I believe that I need. Tell me if you think I'm wrong.

Willieumm said:
Yeah I did use those same settings on my Inspire and no such luck. I did just happen to run across this on the iWireless website however.
"Will any 3G GSM phones get 3G speeds on the i wireless 3G network?
No. Our 3G network will only support AWS/UMTS 1700/2100 banded phones. 3G devices that only have the 2100 band will not be compatible on our 3G network."
http://www.iwireless.com/promoform.asp?promo=3G
So am I wrong in taking that to mean that whatever phone I buy actually has to support both 1700 and 2100 bands in order for me to get 3G upload and download speeds? If so my options will be very limited I'm sure. :\
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Strange. That seems to be really locked down. I really can't advise you reliably. I do know that T-Mobile uses the 1700/2100 frequencies and that the Sensation, with only the 2100 portion, will work on it. If your network requires both bands, anything I say might lead you in error. Sorry for the lack of help.

MartyLK said:
Strange. That seems to be really locked down. I really can't advise you reliably. I do know that T-Mobile uses the 1700/2100 frequencies and that the Sensation, with only the 2100 portion, will work on it. If your network requires both bands, anything I say might lead you in error. Sorry for the lack of help.
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t-mobile.com said:
Specs
Size: 4.96 x 2.57 x 0.4 in
Weight: 5 oz
Included battery: 1520 mAh Talk time: Up to 8 hours Standby time: Up to 21 days
Band (frequency): 850 MHz;900 MHz;1800 MHz;1900 MHz;UMTS: Band I (2100);UMTS: Band IV (AWS);UMTS: Band IV (1700/2100)
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This is from the Sensation's page on t-mobile.com. Doesn't that mean it should cover both bands?

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Willieumm said:
This is from the Sensation's page on t-mobile.com. Doesn't that mean it should cover both bands?
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It sounds like iWireless may not support AWS bands though, 1700/2100 is what they use, but doesn't necessarily mean it's AWS.
GSM bands will work without issue, assuming the device is unlocked.
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