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hey there,
bought my gf a desire s to christmas. i, as a sensation user at the moment am very comfortable with development. flashing, adb, fastboot and things like that are working flawless.
as i don't have so much time to read atm, i have some questions concerning the way to set the desire s up. it was shipped with 1.47 rom, t-mobile branded, sense 2.1, android 2.3.1 and hboot 0.98.0002
i want to flash this rom: endymion sense v3.1 (android 2.3.5, sense 3.5)
i already achieved s-off with revolutionary, hboot is now 6.98.1002 with radio 3805.06.02.03_M. 4ext recovery 2.2.7RC5 is installed as well.
now i saw, that there is RUU_Saga_S_HTC_Europe_2.10.401.8_Radio_20.4801.30.0822U_3822.10.08.04_M_release_225161_signed.exe availble. i also read in the forum, that this ota brings some parts for firmware, which are not flashed with a custom rom.
so would you recommend to flash this ruu first? wouldn't i lose s-off then? would i be abled to achieve s-off again after flashing this? also, for my sensation i would have to supercid first - i didn't read about this here in the forums.
what i would want to do:
1. flash RUU_Saga_S_HTC_Europe_2.10.401.8_Radio_20.4801.30.0822U_3822.10.08.04_M_release_225161_signed.exe
2. run revolutionary again
3. flash custom recovery
4. flash endymion v3.1
would it be possible this way? or would you recommend any other way to me? i want to have all firmware parts as up to date as possible before i flash the custom rom.
smint86 said:
hey there,
bought my gf a desire s to christmas. i, as a sensation user at the moment am very comfortable with development. flashing, adb, fastboot and things like that are working flawless.
as i don't have so much time to read atm, i have some questions concerning the way to set the desire s up. it was shipped with 1.47 rom, t-mobile branded, sense 2.1, android 2.3.1 and hboot 0.98.0002
i want to flash this rom: endymion sense v3.1 (android 2.3.5, sense 3.5)
i already achieved s-off with revolutionary, hboot is now 6.98.1002 with radio 3805.06.02.03_M. 4ext recovery 2.2.7RC5 is installed as well.
now i saw, that there is RUU_Saga_S_HTC_Europe_2.10.401.8_Radio_20.4801.30.0822U_3822.10.08.04_M_release_225161_signed.exe availble. i also read in the forum, that this ota brings some parts for firmware, which are not flashed with a custom rom.
so would you recommend to flash this ruu first? wouldn't i lose s-off then? would i be abled to achieve s-off again after flashing this? also, for my sensation i would have to supercid first - i didn't read about this here in the forums.
what i would want to do:
1. flash RUU_Saga_S_HTC_Europe_2.10.401.8_Radio_20.4801.30.0822U_3822.10.08.04_M_release_225161_signed.exe
2. run revolutionary again
3. flash custom recovery
4. flash endymion v3.1
would it be possible this way? or would you recommend any other way to me? i want to have all firmware parts as up to date as possible before i flash the custom rom.
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Cause you are already s-off I would say it's senseless to use the ruu first, because it would put you back to s-on like you suggested, but only if the revolutionary bootloader doesn't make problems.
There are many reports of problems with it and I would say you should replace it with the 2.00.2002 engineer bootloader.
before just flash a custom recovery (I would recommend 4ext touch) and if your done with the bootloader flash the ROM of your choice.
To get bootloader, recovery,... just look at the index thread at the development section, it's all in there.
The last step to achieve a full upgraded phone would be to update the radio to the latest version, this you will also find at the index thread.
Happy modding
Oh and welcome, sry^^
Swyped from my desire s running damn sweet ice cream
Tectas said:
There are many reports of problems with it and I would say you should replace it with the 2.00.2002 engineer bootloader.
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is there a guide you are referring to? i already got 4ext recovery installed, but i don't find any post concerning 2.00.2002 bootloader. if i flash this one i would stay s-off? and it would bring me all parts which i would be missing without 2.10.401.8 RUU?
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now i found this one, you are referring to that?
Tectas said:
The last step to achieve a full upgraded phone would be to update the radio to the latest version, this you will also find at the index thread.
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i guess you are referring to this? 20.4801.30.0822U_3822.10.08.04 with my sensation i would also have to flash a matching ril, isn't it recommended with desire s?
smint86 said:
is there a guide you are referring to? i already got 4ext recovery installed, but i don't find any post concerning 2.00.2002 bootloader. if i flash this one i would stay s-off? and it would bring me all parts which i would be missing without 2.10.401.8 RUU?
/edit:
now i found this one, you are referring to that?
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Yes this guide is to "downgrade" (in fact it's an upgrade, even if the version number is lower).
Yes you would stay s-off.
No it not brings you all what is missing, just a part of it, the rest you get with flashing the radio and the rom.
smint86 said:
i guess you are referring to this? 20.4801.30.0822U_3822.10.08.04 with my sensation i would also have to flash a matching ril, isn't it recommended with desire s?
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It's not really needed, you can do it if it's in the zip (or better said if it's there it's done at the flashing procedure), but you're also good to go without it.
Dear All,
I just S-off and rooted a HTC Sensation 4G the cid when it was S-offed and rooted was cidnum: T-MOB010. I have as a newbie had wiped my original stock ROM but I do have a backup. From what i read from the forum adb tools require you to setup the phone in USB debugging and change to charging mode. Right now I do not have a ROM installed. My question is , is there anyway I can change the CID to superCID so i can install any ROM. I'm trying to find ROMs to work on my htc but still no luck. I was wondering whether if I superCID'd it then i would have a better chance. THanks!
Don't think you can. You must use ADB. Sorry
Can you suggest a ROM for me if possible so at least I can install it and then change the CID. I was looking over virtuousrom where there is support for t-mob010
Thanks in advance for the help!
Deathsongx3 said:
Don't think you can. You must use ADB. Sorry
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I'm not sure what that is, I don't live in US but if you need a great rom, I can suggest a few.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1408351
Virtuous Inquisition is a great senseless rom, i've been using it for a few months. Smooth and all.
But if you are a sense lover, you can go for InsertCoin
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1468683
Goodluck~
numb2droid said:
Can you suggest a ROM for me if possible so at least I can install it and then change the CID. I was looking over virtuousrom where there is support for t-mob010
Thanks in advance for the help!
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You need to SuperCID via ADB tools.
You can run the ADB commends required even if you do not have a ROM installed as it uses fastboot.
You do NOT need to have SuperCID in order to install and use a Custom ROM.
What does your Bootloader screen say at the moment ? As in have you still got GB compatible Firmware or ICS compatible Firmware ?
As the person above me said, you don't need to boot your phone in order to supercid it. Do what is said here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192300 and skip steps 5,6,7.
And to install a rom, you don't need to supercid... just install the firmware it asks you to install and then, install the rom. I'd recommend ARHD 6.3.0, get the firmware package for your cid from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1459767 (just be sure to take the 3.30 one) and follow this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1471941
P.S. Any rom is compatible with your CID as long as you have the right firmware package I think. (Just wait for someone to confirm what I'm saying, because I'm not sure)
youssefkiev said:
As the person above me said, you don't need to boot your phone in order to supercid it. Do what is said here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192300 and skip steps 5,6,7.
And to install a rom, you don't need to supercid... just install the firmware it asks you to install and then, install the rom. I'd recommend ARHD 6.3.0, get the firmware package for your cid from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1459767 (just be sure to take the 3.30 one) and follow this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1471941
P.S. Any rom is compatible with your CID as long as you have the right firmware package I think. (Just wait for someone to confirm what I'm saying, because I'm not sure)
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Any custom ROM will work with any CID, assuming compatible firmware and radio. You need the "appropriate" CID to install RUUs. For example when I first got the phone the first thing I did was to change the CID and install a generic European RUU to debrand it.
EDIT: compatible firmware relates to the HBOOT version and has no relevance to the CID itself. There are compatible firmware/radio combinations. The appropriate Radio is included with the ICS firmware packs.
Note: If you revert back to 1.17 HBOOT for GB ROMs you'll need to flash an appropriate Radio. There is a thread in the dev section: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1178143
The reason there are so many CIDs mentioned in the firmware thread, is that many CIDs seem to have popped up for the Sensation and many folks didn't SuperCID. The reason in that thread for so many installs for groups of CID versions of the firmware, is that there appears to be a limit on the number of characters in the section that checks the CID. ALL the firmware downloads are the same (for the same HBOOT version), they just do different CID checks. If you're SuperCID and of them will work. I hope the explanation isn't too convoluted.
Does anyone know that if I can change the CID of my sensation z710a with ADB WIFI as the usb port is not working?Thanks.
seawind107 said:
Does anyone know that if I can change the CID of my sensation z710a with ADB WIFI as the usb port is not working?Thanks.
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you cant :/
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I currently have a desires s (S-ON, not-rooted and bootloader unlocked), I am not sure if I should downgrade to hboot 0.98 as S-OFF for this is not available right now and as the title says I want you all to tell me what to do !
I could either keep this hboot and simply unlock the boot loader, root my phone and install a custom recovery to flash roms. But that way I won't be able to S-OFF my device and hence I wouldn't be able to install all custom roms such as virtuous saga which requires S-OFF .
And If I downgrade my device, I am not sure if the kernels,radio, and other things would be that efficient plus I doubt if I would be able to install all roms, like ICS Sense 4 roms
(kinda new to all this so I don't know if I am being a noob, but I seriously need your reply on this)
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I can tell you what i did:
I unlocked my bootloader at htcdev right away when i got my desire s, then got superuser access to my phone. It was pretty fun, but I couldn't do EVERYTHING Plus, I lost parts of my warranty.
I really wanted s-off to be able to flash all roms available.
After a month or so, i did a downgrade of the hboot, with this instructions.
It worked flawlessly, although it's an hour of work or so if you're new to android. Terminal/ADB looks weird and complicating at first, but hey, you just need to copy the lines off the tutorial, it works perfect if you do as told
My advice: DON'T unlock at HTCdev (gives yo FULL warranty, even if you flash a custom rom), and just simply follow the downgrade instructions. Then you'll have full access, full warranty and no limitations at all, it's absolutely worth the downrade/s-off!
I'm running ICS now and couldn't be happier with my phone!
First of all thank you for your help on this, even I have had the same thought that its better to downgrade my phone and S-OFF it rather than keeping it S-ON.
Btw I came across anouther doubt which I guess its better to ask here instead of creating a new thread every time, : if I have to use an ruu to downgrade ny device, should my current radio (as seen in bootloader) match the ruu's radio ??
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No
Have changed my Rom twice not touched the radio firmware at all.
If it ain't broke don't fix it, also read on xda somewhere radio firmware is a local thing it may work in your area but not mine
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13th Dev said:
I could either keep this hboot and simply unlock the boot loader, root my phone and install a custom recovery to flash roms. But that way I won't be able to S-OFF my device and hence I wouldn't be able to install all custom roms such as virtuous saga which requires S-OFF .
And If I downgrade my device, I am not sure if the kernels,radio, and other things would be that efficient plus I doubt if I would be able to install all roms, like ICS Sense 4 roms
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IMO, there is not much need for you to flash radio.. most of the time you won't need to do so..
and HBoot version can be changed if you are S-Off..
but i have to disagree with your statement that if you don't S-Off you are not able to flash all custom roms.. yes, some may fail to boot up, but mostly they will boot up without problem..
I am currently at the same Hboot as you, HTCDev unlocked and i have tried many roms without problem..
the only thing about having S-On for me is that i will always be dependant on my computer to flash ROM.. other than that, there's no problem generally.. Oh, maybe there is one thing, HTC may know that your phone has already been unlocked since you are using their unlocker.. but there are some ways to relock it and restore the "RELOCKED" in bootloader to "LOCKED"..
I am a newbie, and that's why i unlocked it with HTCDev, but if i were to do it all over again, i would have spend few more days to learn how to downgrade the Hboot and S-Off instead.. you can always flash newer Hboot later anyway..
So my advice, don't worry so much about the radio, or the Hboot version (you can tweak that later) at the moment, then downgrade the Hboot and S-Off it..
IMO it's much better than using HTC unlocker..
thank you guys for all your help and advice, finally after spending a couple of days,I successfully downgraded hboot 2.00.0002 to .98 one.
once again, thankyou all
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I assume that you're revolutionary S-OFF by now, you can now easily upgrade on the latest re-engineered hboot
@doghous exactly !, I'm thinking of changing my hboot to the new re_engineered 2.00.0002 by vampire36, or if someone could suggest a better one.......
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13th Dev said:
@doghous exactly !, I'm thinking of changing my hboot to the new re_engineered 2.00.0002 by vampire36, or if someone could suggest a better one.......
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I have successfully S-Off my DS from HTC Unlock using the method by Skanob, it's pretty straight forward and noob-proof.. (not that you need that now ) and can be used to revert back to stock, S-On, Locked (not Re-locked) if you ever need to repair..
As for Hboot, i have upgraded the Hboot to Eng Hboot 7.00.1002 (the one you mentioned above) so that would be my recommendation, too!
doghous said:
I assume that you're revolutionary S-OFF by now, you can now easily upgrade on the latest re-engineered hboot
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Does anyone know what the differences between the different versions of ENG Hboot?
ENG v0.98.2000 vs. ENG v2.00.xxxx vs. ENG v7.xx.xxxx
Any benefits of using v2.00 or v7.xx over the v0.98?
Thx.
anchemis said:
ENG v7.xx.xxxx
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This one isn't an eng hboot. Better use 2.00.2002
anchemis said:
Does anyone know what the differences between the different versions of ENG Hboot?
ENG v0.98.2000 vs. ENG v2.00.xxxx vs. ENG v7.xx.xxxx
Any benefits of using v2.00 or v7.xx over the v0.98?
Thx.
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A good question actually, even I have the same doubt and would really appreciate if someone could post the answer !
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This is what I've gathered from forum trawling...
v0.98.xxxx: the original hboot for 1.x roms
Has the partitions: /system, /cache, /data (all ext3 or ext4)
Fastboot support, supports Revolutionary S-OFF
ENG v0.98.xxxx: engineering version of above
v2.00.2002: the new hboot for 2.x roms (Sense 3.0 etc.)
Has the partitions: /system, /system/lib, /cache, /data (all ext4)
NOT supported by Revolutionary
-> apparently, some Sense 3.0+ roms need this new /system/lib partition to work (stability issues), but I'm not sure which ones though...
->Note Revolutionary is NOT supported, so to S-OFF you need to downgrade using TacoRoot, ZergRush/Misc_versions, XTC clip or some other method.
ENG v2.00.xxxx: engineering version of above
RVL v6.98.1000: hboot that comes after you S-OFF with revolutionary
It is of a higher version number so breaks overflashing functionality, so you CANNOT revert to RUU (for warranty returns etc.)
-> Note: This can be overflashed with v6.98.2000 (OverARX), which then allows you to overflash a stock or engineered hboot.
v7.00.1002[\B]: modified 2.00.2000
NOT ENG BOOTLOADER
But are there any real life benefits of one over the other?
for example I have the Rev v6.98.1000 hboot, so what you mean is that I could have problems while flashing roms (occasionally), and hence I should change my hboot to the engineered one ?
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I got really frustrated with being S-ON and found the HBOOT downgrade instructions dubious so I found someone in my area with an XTC CLIP device and S-Offed the bastard , don't care much about warranty at this point however.
@ste_vald well done there !, having an s-offed device is surely much better
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13th Dev said:
for example I have the Rev v6.98.1000 hboot, so what you mean is that I could have problems while flashing roms (occasionally), and hence I should change my hboot to the engineered one ?
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No, you should be fine installing most of the ROM's (unless specified otherwise in the OP of the ROM).
However, ENG Hboot is recommended so that if required later you can easily flash new radio's / Hboot.
Thank you, but can't I flash radios on this rev hboot
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No, i believe you can't! You will require an ENG Hboot...
Hi! I'm a newcommer to Android world . I really like the idea of being able to get my phone customized but the more I read the more difficult it gets. Right now I'm trying to process some data and i would really like some help .
1. The S-Off
As far as I have got the s-on is some kind of security system protecting system partitions from getting modified/ersed. But i have found guides here that claim that I can get root acces without getting s-off my phone. But the root is acces to the system files, right? So how does it work? To do flashing i have to have root or s-off?
2. The HBOOT
So the HBOOT is a bootloader, it gets phone up when I push the button. Bu it is also the partition on the NAND. It gets me confused as some say that bootloader is like a BIOS. But as far as I understand BIOS it can be manipulating crucial PC settings like for example the CPU clocks. But I read that in the Android we have kernel for that. Is this right?
3. Mu current phone state
After some reading I tried to get some information about my phone. So when I got to the HBOOT (?) it says:
***LOCKED***
SAGA PVT SHIPS S-ON RL
HBOOT-2.02.0002
RADIO-3831.19.00.110
eMMC-boot
What bothers me is how from there i can get to flashing some Custom Roms? Currently I'm using official ICS becaouse I needed fully functioning phone for a while and didn't want to get it bricked. But right now I'm interested in change but when I think about it I'm getting confused. I would like to test Flinny's Cyanogen but I'm not sure can it be flashed on my hboot? Do i have to change hboot like it is in guide in here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1318919
or just get my phone rooted on my HBOOT following the guide here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525100
?
Ok **roll up sleeves **
You need to decide what you want.
You can just unlock your bootloader via HTC Dev and still be S-ON and flash custom ROM's.
This is the easy process. The disadvantages are that you will loose warranty and will need to flash the kernel separately using a PC and some commands every time you flash a ROM.
On the other hand you can downgrade your HBOOT to 0.98 and then proceed to use revolutionary to gain S-OFF and unlock the bootloader. With this method you can still revert to stock in case you need to send the phone for warranty. You also don't need any additional steps to flash the kernel. It will be flashed along with the ROM.
In either case, after HTC dev unlock or downgrade and S-OFF you will need to flash a custom recovery which will enable you to take full nandroid backups and flash ROM'S.
Choice is yours
Read about both the methods and decide. Everything can be found in the index.
Tapatalked from Desire S running Andromadus
VnnAmed said:
Currently I'm using official ICS becaouse I needed fully functioning phone for a while and didn't want to get it bricked.
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If you are already using official ics i dont think u can go for the s-off method without unlocking first.
Ohh yes, forgot about that.
If you are on ICS, the only option for you now is HTC Dev unlock.
Tapatalked from Desire S running Andromadus
rain987 said:
If you are already using official ics i dont think u can go for the s-off method without unlocking first.
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Yes, it seems that way http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1318919 Guide here that is showing the proces of getting older HBOOT includes HTC-Dev unlocking. The bigger problem is that it includes many really advanced steps like creating gold cards and using Android Windows Tools which i guess are not the same thing as ADB(?) and there are no files becaouse
I will not supply the necessary files that is needed, you MUST know how to use SEARCH. I also suggest to give THANKS to those who originally made/uploaded the files.
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wchich is overwhelming. The problem is that I don't want to get my phone bricked. My friend has Galaxy SII and is just flashing customs through Odin. I guess there isn't such thing for Desire S? So should i go this way? And if i follow this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525100 i will have custom rom but stock kernel? I have read that some Roms need specefic kernel otherwise some features or whole ROMs doesn't work which is just sad. And the only guide i have found of flashing kernel while S-On is here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1794867 but the guy there has different phone and different HBOOT so i guess it doesn't hel me...
You need to read more. With your current level of understanding I suggest you put your rooting plans aside and keep reading.
Hi,
sorry for asking because the forums are full of information on how to root the HTC Sensation but I'm a bit overwhelmed and though I read through several threads before starting I just want to be sure I understand everything right and the information provided is still valid.
First some information about my phone:
My phone is completely stock and just arrived back from an HTC repair (no motherboard change concerning repair report). It's not branded (bought retail).
Android 4.0.3
Sense 3.6
Software version: 3.33.401.53
Kernel-Version: 3.0.16-g31a4fc7
Baseband-Version: 11.76A.3504.00U_11.24A.3504.31_M
Build number: 3.33.401.53 CL391535
Browser-Version: WebKit/534.30
HBOOT 1.27.0000
I'm on Windows 7 x64.
My goal is to install a JB ROM with root access.
I saw some all-in-one tools to achieve my goal:
[TOOL][2 DEC] HTC Sensation/XE/4G Super Utility (AIO) by kgs1992 v8.0
[TOOL] HTC Sensation 4G All-In-One Toolkit V4.0 [7-16-2013] [Noob-Proof]
Is it safe to use such tools, do they well in guiding me through the needed steps and which one is better/safer/easier/more up-to-date?
If going "manually" as far as I understood I have two choices:
1. S-OFF via HTC Dev unlock (auggie2ks guide)
OR
2. S-OFF via the new method HERE.
Which one is better/safer/easier? Will they work with firmware 3.33 (only 3.32 is mentioned)?
Concerning the 2nd guide the wire trick is easier in 1st guide? What else is more complicated there?
Now concerning the order of the manual steps and some questions (referring to [GUIDE] How to Root & S-OFF HTC Sensation - HBOOT 1.27.0000 & Firmware 3.33! and [GUIDE] Juopunutbear S-OFF (HBOOT 1.27.0000 with 3.32 ICS Firmware)):
1. Requirements:
1.1 HTC drivers (windows)
1.2 Enable USB Debugging
1.3 SDCARD ready to be wiped
1.4 Prepared paperclip
2. Steps to perform in that order
2.1 HTC Dev unlock (in case of not using the new method in point 2 above)
2.2 Temp root the phone by flashing Superuser-3.0.7-efghi-signed.zip
How to flash?
2.3 Flash boot.img from Stock 3.32 Rooted ROM in Fastboot
Currently I seem to be on 3.33 so which one to use and where to get the stock rooted ROM from?
2.4 Run Juopunutbear, follow instructions and do the wire trick
2.5 Flash custom recovery (4-EXT) with HTC Sensation 4G All-In-One Toolkit
2.6 Permanently root the phone with HTC Sensation 4G All-In-One Toolkit
2.7 Write Super CID
Do I need this (unbranded retail phone)?
Further questions:
I also read about some universal Firmware HERE. Do I need this when already on (stock) 3.33?
Do I need to flash some special radio (I'm in Germany)?
ROM decision:
After all the mess with S-OFF I'd like to install a nice JB ROM and would be very happy for suggestions because of the great amount of ROMs available in the DEV forum.
What features should I pay attention on (I noticed some problems on stock with free RAM and maybe for example there are some ROMs addressing this in some way)?
Thanks in advance for some hints
Regs,
slaecker
real_sl4cker said:
Hi,
sorry for asking because the forums are full of information on how to root the HTC Sensation but I'm a bit overwhelmed and though I read through several threads before starting I just want to be sure I understand everything right and the information provided is still valid.
First some information about my phone:
My phone is completely stock and just arrived back from an HTC repair (no motherboard change concerning repair report). It's not branded (bought retail).
Android 4.0.3
Sense 3.6
Software version: 3.33.401.53
Kernel-Version: 3.0.16-g31a4fc7
Baseband-Version: 11.76A.3504.00U_11.24A.3504.31_M
Build number: 3.33.401.53 CL391535
Browser-Version: WebKit/534.30
HBOOT 1.27.0000
I'm on Windows 7 x64.
My goal is to install a JB ROM with root access.
I saw some all-in-one tools to achieve my goal:
[TOOL][2 DEC] HTC Sensation/XE/4G Super Utility (AIO) by kgs1992 v8.0
[TOOL] HTC Sensation 4G All-In-One Toolkit V4.0 [7-16-2013] [Noob-Proof]
Is it safe to use such tools, do they well in guiding me through the needed steps and which one is better/safer/easier/more up-to-date?
If going "manually" as far as I understood I have two choices:
1. S-OFF via HTC Dev unlock (auggie2ks guide)
OR
2. S-OFF via the new method HERE.
Which one is better/safer/easier? Will they work with firmware 3.33 (only 3.32 is mentioned)?
Concerning the 2nd guide the wire trick is easier in 1st guide? What else is more complicated there?
Now concerning the order of the manual steps and some questions (referring to [GUIDE] How to Root & S-OFF HTC Sensation - HBOOT 1.27.0000 & Firmware 3.33! and [GUIDE] Juopunutbear S-OFF (HBOOT 1.27.0000 with 3.32 ICS Firmware)):
1. Requirements:
1.1 HTC drivers (windows)
1.2 Enable USB Debugging
1.3 SDCARD ready to be wiped
1.4 Prepared paperclip
2. Steps to perform in that order
2.1 HTC Dev unlock (in case of not using the new method in point 2 above)
2.2 Temp root the phone by flashing Superuser-3.0.7-efghi-signed.zip
How to flash?
2.3 Flash boot.img from Stock 3.32 Rooted ROM in Fastboot
Currently I seem to be on 3.33 so which one to use and where to get the stock rooted ROM from?
2.4 Run Juopunutbear, follow instructions and do the wire trick
2.5 Flash custom recovery (4-EXT) with HTC Sensation 4G All-In-One Toolkit
2.6 Permanently root the phone with HTC Sensation 4G All-In-One Toolkit
2.7 Write Super CID
Do I need this (unbranded retail phone)?
Further questions:
I also read about some universal Firmware HERE. Do I need this when already on (stock) 3.33?
Do I need to flash some special radio (I'm in Germany)?
ROM decision:
After all the mess with S-OFF I'd like to install a nice JB ROM and would be very happy for suggestions because of the great amount of ROMs available in the DEV forum.
What features should I pay attention on (I noticed some problems on stock with free RAM and maybe for example there are some ROMs addressing this in some way)?
Thanks in advance for some hints
Regs,
slaecker
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For rooting as S-Off, Unlock bootloader first and then follow auggie2ks guide for S-off as the wire trick is relatively easier than no htcdev unlock method.
If your goal is to only install custom JB Rom then you can do it by just unlocking bootloader and then flashing 4Ext Recovery via fastboot. For flashing Rom just enable smartflash in the 4EXT recovery tools option and you're good to go to flash custom ROM.
For rooting there is a permanent one click root tool present in ganeshp guide for S-Off(No htcdev unlock one).
For flashing universal firmware you need to be S-Off. If you plan to do so then do S-off now as Stock ROM is a prerequisite to attain S off.
For good JB Rom you have many options. If you want Sense based ROM then flash ViperS 3.1.2 JB with Sense 4+.
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e
MrJukeHardbane said:
For rooting as S-Off, Unlock bootloader first and then follow auggie2ks guide for S-off as the wire trick is relatively easier than no htcdev unlock method.
If your goal is to only install custom JB Rom then you can do it by just unlocking bootloader and then flashing 4Ext Recovery via fastboot. For flashing Rom just enable smartflash in the 4EXT recovery tools option and you're good to go to flash custom ROM.
For rooting there is a permanent one click root tool present in ganeshp guide for S-Off(No htcdev unlock one).
For flashing universal firmware you need to be S-Off. If you plan to do so then do S-off now as Stock ROM is a prerequisite to attain S off.
For good JB Rom you have many options. If you want Sense based ROM then flash ViperS 3.1.2 JB with Sense 4+.
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e
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Hi,
many thanks for the reply.
I wonder what exactly is universal firmware and if I need it at all?
If I go for S-OFF are the steps I wrote above correct or have I mixed something or unneccessary stuff in there?
What about Super CID? What exactly is this and do I need that?
Concerning a good JB ROM I prefer non-Sense because meanwhile I like the feel of pure Android.
Regs,
slaecker
real_sl4cker said:
Hi,
many thanks for the reply.
I wonder what exactly is universal firmware and if I need it at all?
If I go for S-OFF are the steps I wrote above correct or have I mixed something or unneccessary stuff in there?
What about Super CID? What exactly is this and do I need that?
Concerning a good JB ROM I prefer non-Sense because meanwhile I like the feel of pure Android.
Regs,
slaecker
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universal firmware is a patched firmware and you can flash it only when you are on S-OFF
if you go for S-OFF just follow only ganeshp's guide
supercid gives you the ability to install whatever ruu.exe you want
rzr86 said:
universal firmware is a patched firmware and you can flash it only when you are on S-OFF
if you go for S-OFF just follow only ganeshp's guide
supercid gives you the ability to install whatever ruu.exe you want
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Thanks, what are the benefits of this patched firmware?
real_sl4cker said:
Thanks, what are the benefits of this patched firmware?
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it contains a patched hboot which is unlocked and free to any fastboot command
real_sl4cker said:
Baseband-Version: 11.76A.3504.00U_11.24A.3504.31_M
Build number: 3.33.401.53 CL391535
My goal is to install a JB ROM with root access.
Is it safe to use such tools, do they well in guiding me through the needed steps and which one is better/safer/easier/more up-to-date?
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Yes, relatively they're safe. But I highly recommend not using them. They will unlock your device, but you will have a hard time maintaining it.
real_sl4cker said:
If going "manually" as far as I understood I have two choices:
1. S-OFF via HTC Dev unlock (auggie2ks guide)
OR
2. S-OFF via the new method HERE.
Which one is better/safer/easier? Will they work with firmware 3.33 (only 3.32 is mentioned)?
Concerning the 2nd guide the wire trick is easier in 1st guide? What else is more complicated there?
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The wire trick will be a easier in method 1.
If you just want JB roms, and seeing as you are on 3.3x already, you need not change your firmware (s-off not needed for flashing roms). You however can update your radio if you choose to S-OFF.
With S-OFF, you'll have a easier time flashing roms though.
real_sl4cker said:
2. Steps to perform in that order
2.2 Temp root the phone by flashing Superuser-3.0.7-efghi-signed.zip
How to flash?
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You should have a custom recovery by now. You can flash zips in it.
real_sl4cker said:
Currently I seem to be on 3.33 so which one to use and where to get the stock rooted ROM from?
2.4 Run Juopunutbear, follow instructions and do the wire trick
2.5 Flash custom recovery (4-EXT) with HTC Sensation 4G All-In-One Toolkit
2.6 Permanently root the phone with HTC Sensation 4G All-In-One Toolkit
2.7 Write Super CID
Do I need this (unbranded retail phone)?
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S-OFF is needed to superCID and to flash unsigned firmware and/or hboots. Unless you want to flash an ruu not originally meant for your device you'll need superCID.
real_sl4cker said:
Further questions:
I also read about some universal Firmware HERE. Do I need this when already on (stock) 3.33?
Do I need to flash some special radio (I'm in Germany)?
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Don't fix it if it ain't broke.