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Is there an S-OFF available for HBOOT 1.20? Saw "locked" after flashing 1.20 and S-ONed phone. Finally unlocked using htcdev but nothing I found could help me downgrade HBOOT and do S-OFF again. Do not have SuperCID atm.
there is a thread on this your still rooted even though it says s on
Yeah, I am still rooted and can get into recovery and flash ROMs. But I am having issues with signal and I cannot flash anything because 1.20 does not support fastboot commands. I would like to downgrade but cannot. I tried flashing the customized p85img.zip with my CID T-MOB010 and it would just return to menu w/o any messages.
Make sure it's p85img in the file name.
Don't INSERT .zip at the end. It should automatically be a .zip file.
The file is named correctly.
There is a thread here ima try and find it were you can revert back to hboot 1.17.0000
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silverion said:
Is there an S-OFF available for HBOOT 1.20? Saw "locked" after flashing 1.20 and S-ONed phone. Finally unlocked using htcdev but nothing I found could help me downgrade HBOOT and do S-OFF again. Do not have SuperCID atm.
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i m facinf d same problm wit my sensation with bootloader unlocked thro htc dev. i m unable 2 flash any radios. Even i m unable to flash any custom firmware also. I need ur help if u found any solution.
either downgrade your hboot to 1.17 or update to ics 3.24 which has hboot 1.27 (unlocked) and you will have advance fastboot commands
Same exact problem here, semi-bricked my phone before I went over to Htcdev.... attempting to flash a p85img for HBOOT 1.17 or any p85img does nothing but parse it. Searched all day today couldn't find a thing to help...Others have suggested just waiting until Revolution comes out with an Unlock for 1.20 but I'm determined to find a solution for us.
Hello,
my HTC SENSATION has the HBOOT Version 1.27.1100 and I want to download a RUU to restore my HTC device completely. But I can´t find a RUU with this HBOOT version.
I only have to download the right RUU and install it on my HTC device to restore it completely, right?
james0912 said:
Hello,
my HTC SENSATION has the HBOOT Version 1.27.1100 and I want to download a RUU to restore my HTC device completely. But I can´t find a RUU with this HBOOT version.
I only have to download the right RUU and install it on my HTC device to restore it completely, right?
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Hi,
Download hboot 1.17 HERE
Then you can use an RUU for that firmware.
which ruu can i use now???
i only want to restore my htc sensation completely!
james0912 said:
which ruu can i use now???
i only want to restore my htc sensation completely!
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Hi,
You need an RUU that matches your area and carrier.
Look HERE
malybru said:
Hi,
Download hboot 1.17 HERE
Then you can use an RUU for that firmware.
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Hey malybru can you flash this file with the stock recovery? Also this only changes the Hboot version correct?
T-Macgnolia said:
Hey malybru can you flash this file with the stock recovery? Also this only changes the Hboot version correct?
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Hi,
It's a PG58IMG.zip .
So, it's just placed on the sd card.
Recovery is not involved.
Yes,it will only change the hboot.
malybru said:
Hi,
It's a PG58IMG.zip .
So, it's just placed on the sd card.
Recovery is not involved.
Yes,it will only change the hboot.
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Man I had a duh money, I realized after I posted that that that file will flash automatically when you boot to Hboot, as that is the file name that Hboot looks for. But still doesn't Hboot use the recovery to flash the file?
T-Macgnolia said:
Man I had a duh money, I realized after I posted that that that file will flash automatically when you boot to Hboot, as that is the file name that Hboot looks for. But still doesn't Hboot use the recovery to flash the file?
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Hi,
I knew you knew that.
I just posted for general information.
I think it flashes in bootloader,before recovery starts.
malybru said:
Hi,
I knew you knew that.
I just posted for general information.
I think it flashes in bootloader,before recovery starts.
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Ok this will be my last post here cause I don't want to hyjack this thread.
This has brought a question to mind and I will have to see if I can find the answer some how. The question is what does Hboot use to flash the PG58IMG.zip. I personally have always thought it used recovery to flash the file.
T-Macgnolia said:
Ok this will be my last post here cause I don't want to hyjack this thread.
This has brought a question to mind and I will have to see if I can find the answer some how. The question is what does Hboot use to flash the PG58IMG.zip. I personally have always thought it used recovery to flash the file.
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It uses the bootloader to flash the file. If you put it on your sd card and reboot into bootloader (volume down button + power button) you will be asked to update. Choose yes using the volume buttons and the file will be flashed, easy as that
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james0912 said:
Hello,
my HTC SENSATION has the HBOOT Version 1.27.1100 and I want to download a RUU to restore my HTC device completely. But I can´t find a RUU with this HBOOT version.
I only have to download the right RUU and install it on my HTC device to restore it completely, right?
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When you install a rom by a RUU, it will also flash the stock Hboot version. Take a look at the shipped roms thread.
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james0912 said:
Hello,
my HTC SENSATION has the HBOOT Version 1.27.1100 and I want to download a RUU to restore my HTC device completely. But I can´t find a RUU with this HBOOT version.
I only have to download the right RUU and install it on my HTC device to restore it completely, right?
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Hboot 1.27 is clearly ICS.
Download official RUU from here (RUU_PYRAMID_ICS_HTC_Europe_3.32.401.5_Radio_11.69.3504.00U_11.22.3504.07_M_release_246089_signed)
This is the latest official ICS RUU for unbranded Europe Sensation.
If your device is branded or your region is not Europe then search for the appropriare RUU.
Run the exe from pc with phone usb plugged. It will restore your phone as "out of the box".
Hope it helped.
Man I really don't understand any of this lol......... I'm just gonna ask a few questions and you guys can either respond or not....
1) I am on stock ICS, rooted, with HTC Dev Unlocked and using Clockwork. If I wanted to un-root, remove clockwork and re-lock the Hboot... How would that go exactly? 1.27.0000 etc...
2) I don't understand why getting S-Off is so difficult. If one would simply downgrade from ICS to GB, wouldn't that change the Hboot version to a lower one, and then you would be able to use the Revolutionary way? Or is that not possible to do? Or does the downgrade not affect the Hboot?
3) Which Custom ROM am I able to flash at the moment? Any, based on ICS?
FnH84 said:
Man I really don't understand any of this lol......... I'm just gonna ask a few questions and you guys can either respond or not....
1) I am on stock ICS, rooted, with HTC Dev Unlocked and using Clockwork. If I wanted to un-root, remove clockwork and re-lock the Hboot... How would that go exactly? 1.27.0000 etc...
2) I don't understand why getting S-Off is so difficult. If one would simply downgrade from ICS to GB, wouldn't that change the Hboot version to a lower one, and then you would be able to use the Revolutionary way? Or is that not possible to do? Or does the downgrade not affect the Hboot?
3) Which Custom ROM am I able to flash at the moment? Any, based on ICS?
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Hi,
1. I think that you can just run the RUU in the post above yours.(If your phone is European)
2.Downgrading is not possible on hboot 1.27.000
HTC have locked you out of this possibility.
3.As you say.Any 3.32. based ICS ROM.
malybru said:
Hi,
1. I think that you can just run the RUU in the post above yours.(If your phone is European)
2.Downgrading is not possible on hboot 1.27.000
HTC have locked you out of this possibility.
3.As you say.Any 3.32. based ICS ROM.
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Thank you very much Not planning un-root but was just wondering, in case I have to do that at some point, it's good to know how
FnH84 said:
Man I really don't understand any of this lol......... I'm just gonna ask a few questions and you guys can either respond or not....
1) I am on stock ICS, rooted, with HTC Dev Unlocked and using Clockwork. If I wanted to un-root, remove clockwork and re-lock the Hboot... How would that go exactly? 1.27.0000 etc...
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It can be done only by running corresponding RUU which can be found based on your firmware(in your case it is 3.32) and cid (to get cid "fastboot getvar cid")...if you are unbranded i.e. cid is HTC__001..then you can run the above mentioned ruu...or else you should get the appropriate one...if you can't find it then post your cid along with radio..we can find the appropriate one for you
2) I don't understand why getting S-Off is so difficult. If one would simply downgrade from ICS to GB, wouldn't that change the Hboot version to a lower one, and then you would be able to use the Revolutionary way? Or is that not possible to do? Or does the downgrade not affect the Hboot?
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If you are S-ON you can't downgrade...not by running a RUU or by flashing firmware directly...that's why people use revolutionary first to get soff and then they'll flash unlocked firmware to update the hboot and all...
It you are SOFF you can literally do anything ..upgrade, downgrade..its your choice..
3 ) Which Custom ROM am I able to flash at the moment? Any, based on ICS?
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As you are unlocked via HTC dev..if you update your recovery with 4EXT latest one which has smartflash mode ON(exclusive SON flash)..you could have any ROM
Edit: I'm bit late huh anyways for more detailed answer look ay my post
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I currently have a desires s (S-ON, not-rooted and bootloader unlocked), I am not sure if I should downgrade to hboot 0.98 as S-OFF for this is not available right now and as the title says I want you all to tell me what to do !
I could either keep this hboot and simply unlock the boot loader, root my phone and install a custom recovery to flash roms. But that way I won't be able to S-OFF my device and hence I wouldn't be able to install all custom roms such as virtuous saga which requires S-OFF .
And If I downgrade my device, I am not sure if the kernels,radio, and other things would be that efficient plus I doubt if I would be able to install all roms, like ICS Sense 4 roms
(kinda new to all this so I don't know if I am being a noob, but I seriously need your reply on this)
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I can tell you what i did:
I unlocked my bootloader at htcdev right away when i got my desire s, then got superuser access to my phone. It was pretty fun, but I couldn't do EVERYTHING Plus, I lost parts of my warranty.
I really wanted s-off to be able to flash all roms available.
After a month or so, i did a downgrade of the hboot, with this instructions.
It worked flawlessly, although it's an hour of work or so if you're new to android. Terminal/ADB looks weird and complicating at first, but hey, you just need to copy the lines off the tutorial, it works perfect if you do as told
My advice: DON'T unlock at HTCdev (gives yo FULL warranty, even if you flash a custom rom), and just simply follow the downgrade instructions. Then you'll have full access, full warranty and no limitations at all, it's absolutely worth the downrade/s-off!
I'm running ICS now and couldn't be happier with my phone!
First of all thank you for your help on this, even I have had the same thought that its better to downgrade my phone and S-OFF it rather than keeping it S-ON.
Btw I came across anouther doubt which I guess its better to ask here instead of creating a new thread every time, : if I have to use an ruu to downgrade ny device, should my current radio (as seen in bootloader) match the ruu's radio ??
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No
Have changed my Rom twice not touched the radio firmware at all.
If it ain't broke don't fix it, also read on xda somewhere radio firmware is a local thing it may work in your area but not mine
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13th Dev said:
I could either keep this hboot and simply unlock the boot loader, root my phone and install a custom recovery to flash roms. But that way I won't be able to S-OFF my device and hence I wouldn't be able to install all custom roms such as virtuous saga which requires S-OFF .
And If I downgrade my device, I am not sure if the kernels,radio, and other things would be that efficient plus I doubt if I would be able to install all roms, like ICS Sense 4 roms
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IMO, there is not much need for you to flash radio.. most of the time you won't need to do so..
and HBoot version can be changed if you are S-Off..
but i have to disagree with your statement that if you don't S-Off you are not able to flash all custom roms.. yes, some may fail to boot up, but mostly they will boot up without problem..
I am currently at the same Hboot as you, HTCDev unlocked and i have tried many roms without problem..
the only thing about having S-On for me is that i will always be dependant on my computer to flash ROM.. other than that, there's no problem generally.. Oh, maybe there is one thing, HTC may know that your phone has already been unlocked since you are using their unlocker.. but there are some ways to relock it and restore the "RELOCKED" in bootloader to "LOCKED"..
I am a newbie, and that's why i unlocked it with HTCDev, but if i were to do it all over again, i would have spend few more days to learn how to downgrade the Hboot and S-Off instead.. you can always flash newer Hboot later anyway..
So my advice, don't worry so much about the radio, or the Hboot version (you can tweak that later) at the moment, then downgrade the Hboot and S-Off it..
IMO it's much better than using HTC unlocker..
thank you guys for all your help and advice, finally after spending a couple of days,I successfully downgraded hboot 2.00.0002 to .98 one.
once again, thankyou all
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I assume that you're revolutionary S-OFF by now, you can now easily upgrade on the latest re-engineered hboot
@doghous exactly !, I'm thinking of changing my hboot to the new re_engineered 2.00.0002 by vampire36, or if someone could suggest a better one.......
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13th Dev said:
@doghous exactly !, I'm thinking of changing my hboot to the new re_engineered 2.00.0002 by vampire36, or if someone could suggest a better one.......
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I have successfully S-Off my DS from HTC Unlock using the method by Skanob, it's pretty straight forward and noob-proof.. (not that you need that now ) and can be used to revert back to stock, S-On, Locked (not Re-locked) if you ever need to repair..
As for Hboot, i have upgraded the Hboot to Eng Hboot 7.00.1002 (the one you mentioned above) so that would be my recommendation, too!
doghous said:
I assume that you're revolutionary S-OFF by now, you can now easily upgrade on the latest re-engineered hboot
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Does anyone know what the differences between the different versions of ENG Hboot?
ENG v0.98.2000 vs. ENG v2.00.xxxx vs. ENG v7.xx.xxxx
Any benefits of using v2.00 or v7.xx over the v0.98?
Thx.
anchemis said:
ENG v7.xx.xxxx
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This one isn't an eng hboot. Better use 2.00.2002
anchemis said:
Does anyone know what the differences between the different versions of ENG Hboot?
ENG v0.98.2000 vs. ENG v2.00.xxxx vs. ENG v7.xx.xxxx
Any benefits of using v2.00 or v7.xx over the v0.98?
Thx.
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A good question actually, even I have the same doubt and would really appreciate if someone could post the answer !
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This is what I've gathered from forum trawling...
v0.98.xxxx: the original hboot for 1.x roms
Has the partitions: /system, /cache, /data (all ext3 or ext4)
Fastboot support, supports Revolutionary S-OFF
ENG v0.98.xxxx: engineering version of above
v2.00.2002: the new hboot for 2.x roms (Sense 3.0 etc.)
Has the partitions: /system, /system/lib, /cache, /data (all ext4)
NOT supported by Revolutionary
-> apparently, some Sense 3.0+ roms need this new /system/lib partition to work (stability issues), but I'm not sure which ones though...
->Note Revolutionary is NOT supported, so to S-OFF you need to downgrade using TacoRoot, ZergRush/Misc_versions, XTC clip or some other method.
ENG v2.00.xxxx: engineering version of above
RVL v6.98.1000: hboot that comes after you S-OFF with revolutionary
It is of a higher version number so breaks overflashing functionality, so you CANNOT revert to RUU (for warranty returns etc.)
-> Note: This can be overflashed with v6.98.2000 (OverARX), which then allows you to overflash a stock or engineered hboot.
v7.00.1002[\B]: modified 2.00.2000
NOT ENG BOOTLOADER
But are there any real life benefits of one over the other?
for example I have the Rev v6.98.1000 hboot, so what you mean is that I could have problems while flashing roms (occasionally), and hence I should change my hboot to the engineered one ?
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I got really frustrated with being S-ON and found the HBOOT downgrade instructions dubious so I found someone in my area with an XTC CLIP device and S-Offed the bastard , don't care much about warranty at this point however.
@ste_vald well done there !, having an s-offed device is surely much better
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13th Dev said:
for example I have the Rev v6.98.1000 hboot, so what you mean is that I could have problems while flashing roms (occasionally), and hence I should change my hboot to the engineered one ?
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No, you should be fine installing most of the ROM's (unless specified otherwise in the OP of the ROM).
However, ENG Hboot is recommended so that if required later you can easily flash new radio's / Hboot.
Thank you, but can't I flash radios on this rev hboot
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No, i believe you can't! You will require an ENG Hboot...
Hi guys,
I've got some ****y problem. So I was on Jelly Bean rom with revolutionary S-Off but wanted to have feature full phone and thought ok go back to stock (bad idea...)
So I followed a tutorial flashed Eng Hboot and wanted to restore with an O2 Gingerbread RUU. Everything worked fine until I got Error 140 (Bootloader failure)...Now I'm S-On but I don't have any rom on my phone so I'm stuck in recovery.
S-On
Hboot 0.98.0000
Radio 38.03.02.14_M
In my opinion I have to get a goldcard to flash a ruu on top of all that **** ^^ Buuut I can't boot so no ADB, hence I can't get my CID. Tried some tools to get CID via card reader but It didn't work for me.
Any Help, Suggestions? Help me to fix my android and avoid to buy an Iphone ^^
Cheers
main version check fail...that stopped the RUU
Have a go at fastboot, if that doesn't work it will need to be sent off to the repair center to be reprogrammed by JTAG experts.
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I can enter fastboot and do commands that's not the problem. Sadly my hboot seems to be too low for htcdev unlock -.- ...And I don't know of any method to get ADB working in bootloader, fastboot, ...
Can you get into recovery from fastboot? If so, you can run ADB from there.
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Why not trying to flash the ruu that suits your carrier,
Besides, it's best not to use eng-hboot in order to get back to s-on, imho,it's best to upgrade hboot to revolutionary 7.x after using revolutionary s-off, it's compatible with most 2.3.5ruus and custom roms.
I can get into recovery but it is stock recovery...and adb doesn't recognize my device while i'm in there ...
The ruu suits my carrier, as I said the signature check was true but the version check failed...i would need a newer o2 ruu but that doesn't exist
help me pls^^
Can you flash a custom recovery, such as 4EXT or CWM, using a PG88IMG zip file on your sdcard?
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Hey Bill thx for your help! I used an old phone wich could get into CWM Got CID of SD Card and did the Gold Card method! Flashing Ruu PG88IMG right now
btw. This can be closed
Wody05 said:
btw. This can be closed
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Just add [Solved] at the front of the title on the original post (OP).
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Hey guys,
tonight I tried to unlock my HBoot 1.27 Sensation with T-Mobile Germany branding.
I used the htcdev method successfully. Then I installed 4ext recovery.
Till now everything was fine.
But then I thought, I could wipe the old T-Mobile stuff from NAND, in order to install CM9.
But now I have an empty S-On, htcdev unlocked phone and can not install any ROM, because there are no ICS RUU files availble for TMobile Germany phones.
4ext recovery is working fine.
So, what can I do now to S-OFF my phone, or to get any ROM on it?
I do not own any backups
for your situation see this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1631861
if you want to S-OFF see this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1661631
Wow and I thought I was crazy. Question can you boot into bootloader and if so what Does say.
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Thanks guys,
thanks for your help! Now on CM10 with S-ON
I still do not understand how to S-Off now, I think I'm too stupid for this...
My bootloader says HBoot 1.27, S-On, ***UNLOCKED***
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Thanks guys,
thanks for your help! Now on CM10 with S-ON
I still do not understand how to S-Off now, I think I'm too stupid for this...
My bootloader says HBoot 1.27, S-On, ***UNLOCKED***
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see again my previous post and follow the second link
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