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Well since I'm always looking for the lightest launcher (not that my phone is slow but I want a launcher just to play my 3d intensive games), I decided to post my findings about various Launchers here, I'll add more as I test them, this is using Task Manager when the Launcher is running as the main app (because if I launch GO for example and it isn't the default one, it will show the same RAM usage but 0% CPU usage), I measured at least five times each so I could get an average - that's using a Milestone 2 (Droid 2) non overclocked, rooted:
Home (Motorola): CPU 5%ish, RAM 20-25 MB
Go Launcher: CPU 10-12%, RAM 20-31 MB
Launcher 7: CPU 10-12%, RAM 22-25MB
Regina Launcher 3D: CPU 1-5%, RAM 15-25MB
Zeam: CPU 0%, RAM 9-12 MB
Zeam would always give me 0% CPU no matter what except when it was starting (drawing icons, app drawer and all) when it gave me 40%ish CPU and 50mb RAM.
LauncherPro would never appear on Task Manager so if anyone has a tip on which program to use to measure its RAM and CPU consumption I'd love a suggestion.
Since Dungeon Hunter 2 is the only game that constantly gives me slowdowns (other demanding games like Eternal Legacy, Reckless Racing and Spider Man Total Mayhem almost never show slowdowns, Hero of Sparta does but al reviews say it was badly coded compared to the iPhone version so I thought there was no point in using it to test Launchers), I used that game as a 'benchmark'.
I was only able to play it without it slowing down constantly when I performed certain actions (the animation of the trasure flipping when you open a chest) and having 90% smooth battles even using the fairy spells (which are full of effects) using Zeam. The game was almost unplayable using default Motorola Blur Home (although I tested Spider Man, which is the fastest action 3D game I have, and it worked flawlessly), and I'd say LauncherPro, even leaving all widgets (facebook, twitter, sms, calendar) on, delivered an experience almost as good as Zeam, same can be said for Regina Launcher although the Launcher itself slows down because it's all 3D and stuff. Performance under Launcher7 wasn't good.
I'm going to test ADW and the Gingerbread launchers now (have 4 of them, one by Steve Lin, one by someguy373 - sorry forgot the name, HELauncher and another one called Gingerbread Launcher like the 373 guy's one), but I'm hoping someone will come with better way to test hi-end game performance under several launchers (since in my case it's the only thing that seems to be affected by them, I charge my phone daily and since Droid2's battery sucks anyway I can't say I have noticed battery differences among them).

Awesome info Although I'm surprised at the moto home using up so little resources though
And to see Launcher Pro, If you're using Advanced Task manager go into Settings then change the security level to low so you can see all the Apps and processes running, Launcher Pro should be one of them

MacaronyMax said:
Awesome info Although I'm surprised at the moto home using up so little resources though
And to see Launcher Pro, If you're using Advanced Task manager go into Settings then change the security level to low so you can see all the Apps and processes running, Launcher Pro should be one of them
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Oh thanks, I'll install advanced Task Man to see, there are other launchers I can't see as well such as the gingerbread ones.

LauncherPro has a debug feature IIRC, it should be in the Advanced settings.

TheDeadCpu said:
LauncherPro has a debug feature IIRC, it should be in the Advanced settings.
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Yeah it's showing me 15-25mb most of the time.
Sent from my Motorola Milestone 2 using Tapatalk

With atrix I use adw paid version with every animation possible but HTC magic 32b I needed all the resources I could get and use zeam. Thanks for the info
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Try GO, too. It appears to consume little overhead while offering the best features of adw ex and lpp (plus I like its task management widget).
I'm curious to find out what its footprint is in comparison to the others
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mkioshi said:
LauncherPro would never appear on Task Manager so if anyone has a tip on which program to use to measure its RAM and CPU consumption I'd love a suggestion.
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You can try Home Manager for the RAM usage (about 28 -32MB on my phone - X8, stock 2.1). Still no clue to the CPU consumption tho.

Thanks
Thank you so much for this info, is very very helpfull.
Currently I'm using ADW Ex, but I will look for either Zeam of LauncherPro.
Zeam is a very good launcher, I hope to get more features in the next updates.
Thanks again.

This pretty much sums up why I use the Zeam Launcher over other feature-heavy launchers like LPP, GO or ADW. Of course, the results are more or less expected except for the MotoBlur. @[email protected]
If anyone can provide the info regarding the usage of the Touchwiz and Sense, I'll really appreciate it. I'm itching to go back to my home launcher again. XD

Have you tried HeLauncher?
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.handlerexploit.launcher_reloaded&feature=search_result
Seems like it might be light but im not sure...

With the built in launcherpro memory useage display the highest I see is 10.x MB, and for the most part it hovers around 9.5-9.8MB.
EDIT: I found launcherpro in Task Manager as android.process.acore. Task manager has it consuming about 28MB of memory and 0-1% CPU.
Sent from my cm7 Aria.

[Q] Is anyone getting operating lag?

The OS seems to be lagging. It could be the hardware or maybe its the infancy stages of Honeycomb, but not a single thing on the TF is smooth.
-Switching home screens lags
-Playing Angry Birds lags
-Window animations lag
[Q] Is anyone else getting these problems?
It kind of hinders the experience, and for industry leading specs, the performance is quite poor.

The only lag I've noticed so far is with the keyboard input on web pages.

denverseven said:
The OS seems to be lagging. It could be the hardware or maybe its the infancy stages of Honeycomb, but not a single thing on the TF is smooth.
-Switching home screens lags
-Playing Angry Birds lags
-Window animations lag
[Q] Is anyone else getting these problems?
It kind of hinders the experience, and for industry leading specs, the performance is quite poor.
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Have you tried using Advance Task Killer to kill background running apps or processes? This helps me when I experienced any lags.

I have never experienced lag on Angry Birds, but then again you may be running more apps than me.

denverseven said:
The OS seems to be lagging. It could be the hardware or maybe its the infancy stages of Honeycomb, but not a single thing on the TF is smooth.
-Switching home screens lags
-Playing Angry Birds lags
-Window animations lag
[Q] Is anyone else getting these problems?
It kind of hinders the experience, and for industry leading specs, the performance is quite poor.
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I experienced this a few days after I got my tablet. It ended up being an app/widget I had installed off of the market called weather3d. As soon as I tracked the problem down and uninstalled the app, it was smooth again. Kind of scary how much a wonky/non honeycomb tested app can destroy the performance of your device.

jimbob1971 said:
I have never experienced lag on Angry Birds, but then again you may be running more apps than me.
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I checked out my memory usage, at the moment the tablet is telling me I am using 157 mb and have 353 mb of Ram left.

evensen007 said:
I experienced this a few days after I got my tablet. It ended up being an app/widget I had installed off of the market called weather3d. As soon as I tracked the problem down and uninstalled the app, it was smooth again. Kind of scary how much a wonky/non honeycomb tested app can destroy the performance of your device.
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Unfortunately, it was lagging out of the box. I was showing it off to my sister and she's like "what are you trying to show me, the sketchy transitions?"
Maybe its all the widgets? I have all the stock ones including calendar, youtube, android market, and browser widgets

Mine is laggy too especially during home screen transitions using the HC launcher. It is noticeable especially if you are coming from an iPad. I have read that 3.1 fixes these problems and transitions are silky smooth with no lag. I'm currently using Launcher Pro with 1 home screen since I don't use widgets and I like to keep all my apps on one screen. This seems to save on RAM and makes app switching smoother.

denverseven said:
Unfortunately, it was lagging out of the box. I was showing it off to my sister and she's like "what are you trying to show me, the sketchy transitions?"
Maybe its all the widgets? I have all the stock ones including calendar, youtube, android market, and browser widgets
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I have all of the stock widgets and then some. Runs as fast as any other tab I've seen including if ad. I'm also running the newer firmware 8.2.3.9.

evensen007 said:
I have all of the stock widgets and then some. Runs as fast as any other tab I've seen including if ad. I'm also running the newer firmware 8.2.3.9.
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How much RAM is everyone getting. My tablet is reading out 185 mb being used and 380 mb free, so a total of 565 mb.
I know the tablet is supposed to have 1 gb of RAM.

Turn the Live Wallpaper off.

denverseven said:
How much RAM is everyone getting. My tablet is reading out 185 mb being used and 380 mb free, so a total of 565 mb.
I know the tablet is supposed to have 1 gb of RAM.
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that's shared memory (with video)

atxer said:
Turn the Live Wallpaper off.
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I don't have live wallpaper. Plus, if I did, isn't it supposed to handle it?

I was getting lag with the default launcher, right now using VTL Launcher and its much better. I am getting lag with the browser (default) but with the debug tweak pages are loading much faster then before but theres times when it does lag. Was getting lag with the asus keyboard and just the android one and its much better.

Like any techsupport would ask:
what have u loaded on-the-job tablet? And don't say nothing because everyone loads at least one thing on a new tablet.
Have u tried to remove all installed apps (and Flash-bet u installed that)?
Have u rooted it yet?
Have u tried to root it yet?
Have u attempted/completed any firmware upgrades?
Are u using a dock?
Have u tried it without the dock?
Have u tried a hard reboot (hold power button for 12-15 secs?

i get panel transition lags when i set some live wallpapers
stock, no root, with latest firmware

If u want no lag and and want to use as many widgets with out system lagging do this
1 download ADW ex in market
2 go to adw setting and go to general behavior,animations and effects, transition effect and select *Curve ( I've tryed all pf them and some reason curve has the best fluid swiping)
4 make sure wallpaper scrolling is disabled
5 set desktop bounce to 15
6 set scrolling to 230
This is my way of a lag free life.
Also turn off alm the gestures there not needed
Ill do a video of before and after soon

You are correct...that really made my home screens fly!

unknown_owner said:
Like any techsupport would ask:
what have u loaded on-the-job tablet? And don't say nothing because everyone loads at least one thing on a new tablet.
Have u tried to remove all installed apps (and Flash-bet u installed that)?
Have u rooted it yet?
Have u tried to root it yet?
Have u attempted/completed any firmware upgrades?
Are u using a dock?
Have u tried it without the dock?
Have u tried a hard reboot (hold power button for 12-15 secs?
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-First thing out of the box: lag from scrolling. Then got flash, still lagging
-then got Angry Birds
-then got other android apps
-Not rooted, haven't tried
-just got notice of available firmware update today, will do after battery charges past 50
-No dock
-hard reboot did help a touch
I think I will try to restore it factory settings first, then runnig the firware upgrade, then getting flash. Will post results

Good News! I restored the tablet to factory settings and actually restored it from backup after that. Here is what I have noticed:
-The tablet is working much faster now, with no appreciable lag. Still some tiny amounts here and there but totally forgivable
-The preloaded music (4 songs) was gone. I think this means that before the ship the tablet they preload it with random software. So now its all gone, and whatever was causing the slow down before is gone now as well.
-I restored from back up so I have all my apps back as well as flash and it works perfect
-Also, the Asus keyboard no longer lags! Which is great because I like it better than the Android one. So if anyone wants to use the Asus keyboard without lag, just reset your tablet to factory settings.
Thanks for all the help everyone, I will still try Cowballz69 idea to speed it up even more

Dead Trigger - Self Closing

Hello,
Since I saw a few guys report that Dead Trigger is working perfectly for them I am a bit curious why it doesnt work perfectly for me.
Now when I start the game and set the graphics to High, I can play for a while then the game freezes and closes itself which leads me back in my launcher which loads everything again.
I suppose I run out of RAM but how those guys managed to get the game running?
Also many other games close themselfs and dont let me play them.
If device is halting and waiting for a little bit more RAM which causes freezing, why it behaves this way and closes the game?

try running the v6 optimization script here in xda it will help with the ram issue
Sent from my LG-P925 using xda app-developers app

Doesn't work.
Also can you recomend me option for the supercharger?

I use the 512 HP super unleaded with bulletproof launcher and I even tried dead trigger n played good I like it
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I had the same problem. Lower the graphic details to medium or low.

you can also disable in game music,after you finish the mission which force closes then u can re-enable it,i had the same prob,every time the big zombie which spits green vomit appear on screen,even when i put the graphic on low,it still self closed,but when i disabled music,i coul finish the mission

Lag in simple games

Temple run 1 is unplayable on Honor 8 but it runs perfectly on Honor 7. Geometry Dash World stutters a bit, again runs perfect on Honor 7.
Strange. I guess the load from these apps is not kicking the cpu/gpu up to required clock speeds or the chipset is not optimized properly.

spix123 said:
Temple run 1 is unplayable on Honor 8 but it runs perfectly on Honor 7. Geometry Dash World stutters a bit, again runs perfect on Honor 7.
Strange. I guess the load from these apps is not kicking the cpu/gpu up to required clock speeds or the chipset is not optimized properly.
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Just downloaded and tried on mine, no lag at all. Running nougat if that matters.

vyper4 said:
Just downloaded and tried on mine, no lag at all. Running nougat if that matters.
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Nougat here too, but using the chinese developer rom... Tried restarting phone, clearing apps etc. Regular apps and most other games run fine but performance seems really poor on undemanding ones.
Could you try opening cpu-z and temple run in split screen and see what clock speed it's going to
EDIT - nevermind, split screen not working in temple run. When you open the game, then go back home, then go to multitasking, do you see temple run there? I don't, can only reopen it by clicking the homescreen icon (it doesn't reload but isn't showing in multitasking)

spix123 said:
When you open the game, then go back home, then go to multitasking, do you see temple run there? I don't, can only reopen it by clicking the homescreen icon (it doesn't reload but isn't showing in multitasking)
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Same for me, that's very strange. It seems to still be in the memory though, but I can't actually access it through multitasking as you said.

This is a screenshot of CPU-Z and temple run. It doesn't quite use all of the available frequency.

colliflower1107 said:
This is a screenshot of CPU-Z and temple run. It doesn't quite use all of the available frequency.
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How did you do that? When I try open temple run in multitasking it says not supported

spix123 said:
How did you do that? When I try open temple run in multitasking it says not supported
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I set 'force resizable' to true in the developer options.

Pie update memory leak? + pie experiences

Is anyone noticing any strange memory behavior since the pie update?
Today I saw my free memory under the recents screen drop to 400mb
Not sure if the update lets the P20 pro better utilize it's 6gb but I was not doing anything out of the ordinary
I'm running lawn chair launcher (latest play store version) and everything else is stock
Also I've noticed that Android now uses 1.9-2.5 gb ram
Looking forward to see what you all experience

Actually using memory is not a memory leak.

novastar1 said:
Is anyone noticing any strange memory behavior since the pie update?
Today I saw my free memory under the recents screen drop to 400mb
Not sure if the update lets the P20 pro better utilize it's 6gb but I was not doing anything out of the ordinary
I'm running lawn chair launcher (latest play store version) and everything else is stock
Also I've noticed that Android now uses 1.9-2.5 gb ram
Looking forward to see what you all experience
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havent see any weird behaviour in 9.0.168,
my free memory still ranging between 1-3GB like before

otonieru said:
havent see any weird behaviour in 9.0.168,
my free memory still ranging between 1-3GB like before
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Looks back to normal today
Didn't do anything different
Will keep an eye on it

no problems here and i got like 3+ gb ram left after use

Before update, i used to have 4 gb free memory.
But now, 3 gb

draligus said:
Before update, i used to have 4 gb free memory.
But now, 3 gb
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https://www.androidpit.com/ram-management-on-android
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draligus said:
Before update, i used to have 4 gb free memory.
But now, 3 gb
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i suggest you to install magisk and install swap torpedo module as well,
on our 6GB system, memory swap will only causing lag. especially if there is any app that havent fully optimised for android pie leaking memory, triggering the system to do paging

So, we should not take free memory into consideration

draligus said:
So, we should not take free memory into consideration
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at least thats what google said/campaigning,
but sometimes my OCD'ness just can't resist the urge to press the clean button just to see the recent page empy (clean), LOL

This is what I was referring to
Is this normal
Android 2.9 gb
See attachment

novastar1 said:
This is what I was referring to
Is this normal
Android 2.9 gb
See attachment
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Now up to 3.0gb
Edit
Seems other phones are affected as well
https://www.reddit.com/r/essential/comments/a7y7by/_/

Is this only me?

dreszczyk said:
Actually using memory is not a memory leak.
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This is true but I'm emui 9 on honor play and it now kills rocket player (music player) when it's playing music in the background and there's no way to protect apps from this. 400megs free? Show me where the ram is being used where the recent tasks list is empty.

_a! said:
This is true but I'm emui 9 on honor play and it now kills rocket player (music player) when it's playing music in the background and there's no way to protect apps from this. 400megs free? Show me where the ram is being used where the recent tasks list is empty.
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allow app to run in background in "app launch" setting

dreszczyk said:
Actually using memory is not a memory leak.
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otonieru said:
allow app to run in background in "app launch" setting
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That's the default for all apps.

Seems that this was due to the swipe left for Google now in lawn chair
Turned it off... Looks like lots of ram for cache now

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That's the default for all apps.
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using auto meaning system can decide to override the setting when it feel needed, thus it still killable if you left it as auto

otonieru said:
using auto meaning system can decide to override the setting when it feel needed, thus it still killable if you left it as auto
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No, I previously tried manual, plus I just tried it again now. It makes sense that there's no difference as by opting for manual control but leaving the 3 options the same as before why would one expect different behaviour. I think the fact that this option is located in the battery option's page demonstrates that this is about limiting how apps are launched, so as to save battery. What I want is the opposite - keep an app in memory no matter what. The music player is playing music as a background task, so it's being treated like a browser you've not used for 4 hours. I want an app which is playing music in the background to be treated like an app where the UI is visible and never, ever, ever killed for any reason. There are no settings which allow you to do this. Furthermore, it's annoying that the phone is showing 777megs of ram free. Something is using the other 3.3 gigs of ram but on no screen can I find any figures which I can sum to get close to this value, so it's like the OS itself is using it as a cache. Fine, no point in not using ram, but it seems that with the launcher showing (ie no apps have the display) it has the full ram available for background tasks.
The only other thing I could try is to not use nova launcher. I'm not confident this would make any difference, and even if it did I don't like the idea that I have to choose between a decent UI or the ability to play music.

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No, I previously tried manual, plus I just tried it again now. It makes sense that there's no difference as by opting for manual control but leaving the 3 options the same as before why would one expect different behaviour. I think the fact that this option is located in the battery option's page demonstrates that this is about limiting how apps are launched, so as to save battery. What I want is the opposite - keep an app in memory no matter what. The music player is playing music as a background task, so it's being treated like a browser you've not used for 4 hours. I want an app which is playing music in the background to be treated like an app where the UI is visible and never, ever, ever killed for any reason. There are no settings which allow you to do this. Furthermore, it's annoying that the phone is showing 777megs of ram free. Something is using the other 3.3 gigs of ram but on no screen can I find any figures which I can sum to get close to this value, so it's like the OS itself is using it as a cache. Fine, no point in not using ram, but it seems that with the launcher showing (ie no apps have the display) it has the full ram available for background tasks.
The only other thing I could try is to not use nova launcher. I'm not confident this would make any difference, and even if it did I don't like the idea that I have to choose between a decent UI or the ability to play music.
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you can do that by modifying some .xml in sysconfig folder,
normally we remove whitelist from the xml, but what you would want to do is to adding it instead

otonieru said:
you can do that by modifying some .xml in sysconfig folder,
normally we remove whitelist from the xml, but what you would want to do is to adding it instead
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Thanks for the help (though it's sort of vague - change which .xml file how?). I guess I need root for that, which I've no interest in at the mo.
I've found what might be the setting I'm after, so I'll try for a while both with that setting and with the stock launcher. If I have no problems for a week or so I'll try with that setting and nova launcher. The setting is Settings/Apps/Apps/Special Access/Battery Optimisation/(select an app here - in my case Rocket Player)/Don't Allow.