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Liquipel or HzO waterproofing?

Has anyone tried either? And by trying, I mean has anyone submerged their phone with these treatments.?
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shaggyskunk said:
Has anyone tried either? And by trying, I mean has anyone submerged their phone with these treatments.?
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I wouldn't try it. Every time you remove the batter cover, you'll have to reapply. If you keep your phone in your pocket, who knows when that stuff will wear off the phone. Just look for a water proof case, if your afraid of getting your phone wet.

mimart7 said:
I wouldn't try it. Every time you remove the batter cover, you'll have to reapply.
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This is isn't true for Liquipel. Their technology works a bit different in the fact that they ionize the phone in a vacuum with the chemical they use for waterproofing by releasing the chemical then release the vacuum so it bonds itself to every nook and cranny the phone has, making a waterproof bond at (I believe as far as) the atomic level. Very interesting technology... Though, it does NOT make the phone capable of just being completely submerged into water without being affected. They still recommend letting the phone dry out if it is submerged, but the water itself won't affect much. Hence they're "worry free" motto.

Fortune090 said:
This is isn't true for Liquipel. Their technology works a bit different in the fact that they ionize the phone in a vacuum with the chemical they use for waterproofing by releasing the chemical then release the vacuum so it bonds itself to every nook and cranny the phone has, making a waterproof bond at (I believe as far as) the atomic level. Very interesting technology... Though, it does NOT make the phone capable of just being completely submerged into water without being affected. They still recommend letting the phone dry out if it is submerged, but the water itself won't affect much. Hence they're "worry free" motto.
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Yeah, that's what I was thinking... I was just curious to see if anyone had any personal experience with the products?
It's not like I'm particularly worried about my phone getting wet, but over the years I have spilled water/drinks on various phones. Fortunately, I've never had one suffer any kind of permanent damage.
Also I'm not too keen on stuffing a phone that has it's thinness as one of it's features into a bulky case.
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shaggyskunk said:
Yeah, that's what I was thinking... I was just curious to see if anyone had any personal experience with the products?
It's not like I'm particularly worried about my phone getting wet, but over the years I have spilled water/drinks on various phones. Fortunately, I've never had one suffer any kind of permanent damage.
Also I'm not too keen on stuffing a phone that has it's thinness as one of it's features into a bulky case.
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I personally haven't, no, but people have been raving about liquipel since CES saying it's the best behind actually getting a waterproof case.
I also contacted them a few weeks back wondering if they will liquipel Skyrockets even though they're not on their phone list and they said they will. All you have to do is select a phone on the list and state that you're knowingly sending a different phone in the notes. I'm tempted to get it done, but I need to wait until I have a SR that isn't so jacked up with these screen lines.. Haha
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Fortune090 said:
I personally haven't, no, but people have been raving about liquipel since CES saying it's the best behind actually getting a waterproof case.
I also contacted them a few weeks back wondering if they will liquipel Skyrockets even though they're not on their phone list and they said they will. All you have to do is select a phone on the list and state that you're knowingly sending a different phone in the notes. I'm tempted to get it done, but I need to wait until I have a SR that isn't so jacked up with these screen lines.. Haha
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Used otterbox defender before and it is very water resistant but no means water proof.
I have used it during heavy rain without setting the watermark-void my warranty trigger. Even with a waterproof cover not sure I would take it 3ft below sea level snorkeling.
But maybe liguipel and an otterbox commuter would be a lighter alternative

i'm using SEaLABox waterproof case for my S2 for couple of months now
check out the case preview:
swimmingwaterproofcases.com/sealabox-a-waterproof-mobile-case-from-krusell

Reviewed a very nice letter from liquid. I727 skyrocket not on list but I was added to their support list and if and when it is they will update me.
Seems like a repuitable company. For $80 though, if you live on the beach go4 it
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mmessina said:
Reviewed a very nice letter from liquid. I727 skyrocket not on list but I was added to their support list and if and when it is they will update me.
Seems like a repuitable company. For $80 though, if you live on the beach go4 it
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They did add it to their list on the site. Got an email about it. Listed as Samsung GS2 (AT&T). Know they definitely need to rename it, but they said that it's supported. And it's $60.
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lifeproof
You guys need to check out lifeproof. Much better case, its waterproof; not water resistant like liquipel and aridion or p2i or hzo. This is the ONLY way to protect your phone from the elements.
demonstration at the beach for more information.
We resell these cases to small dealers @ $60.00. They retail at best buy for $79.99. We retail for $74.99 + shipping. 305.349.3678.

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mrc1330 said:
You guys need to check out lifeproof. Much better case, its waterproof; not water resistant like liquipel and aridion or p2i or hzo. This is the ONLY way to protect your phone from the elements.
demonstration at the beach for more information.
We resell these cases to small dealers @ $60.00. They retail at best buy for $79.99. We retail for $74.99 + shipping. 305.349.3678.
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Would be nice if they made a lifeproof case for a skyrocket....

Wow, I didn't realize this service was offered anywhere...without a case anyway. That's pretty impressive, although I'm not sure I'd ever fully trust submerging my phone. It would be great in case of an accident.

mrc1330 said:
You guys need to check out lifeproof. Much better case, its waterproof; not water resistant like liquipel and aridion or p2i or hzo. This is the ONLY way to protect your phone from the elements.
demonstration at the beach for more information.
We resell these cases to small dealers @ $60.00. They retail at best buy for $79.99. We retail for $74.99 + shipping. 305.349.3678.
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You know those are for iPhones and you're in the Samsung Skyrocket forum??? Are you just being paid to advertise on forums? Thanks for the pricing for a case that doesn't work with our phones...
Sorry, just a little irritated that they don't have these for the skyrocket...

rkub said:
You know those are for iPhones and you're in the Samsung Skyrocket forum??? Are you just being paid to advertise on forums? Thanks for the pricing for a case that doesn't work with our phones...
Sorry, just a little irritated that they don't have these for the skyrocket...
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^^ I'm with this guy/gal

Lifeproof cases look great. But I would say your advertising to the wrong crowd as your website only shows you sell iPhone and iPad cases. Apple makes me throw up.
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Leo Laporte had his iphone liquipelled. Maybe another brand, but search for it on twitv. He dunked his phone and it was done for. Granted he said he didn't wait the 2days of drying like they recommend. I think those 2 days could be important, but not sure if it's worth the cost regardless.
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A couple months ago I dropped mine in water for a few seconds with a regular case and rebooted it a couple times before taking out the battery, then blow dried it immediately for a while on high heat and left it out for 8 hours before putting battery back in, then used it the whole day and it still works perfectly haha

I was wondering if this is really "long lasting", ....I remember there was nano coating for cars and it disappears after a while.
I believe that it works but does it work one year after ..or two?
They promise (liquipel) a lifetime more then the gadget itself, but this I don´t believe.
I found some other stuff, regarding making electronics water proof, a german engineering company liqui-tech.de
they recommend liquipel but offer something similar, but to protect the gadget you have to disassemble. Not easy to get it back assembled .
But much cheaper, a can for 14€

A zip lock baggie and you're good to go! Cheap too
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diving underwater case of the skyrocket?

i'm a free diver/ spear fisherman and i would love to dive with my phone and take some vids... i've found one but it's for the hatefull iphone http://www.apnea.fr/actus/liphone-amphibie does anyone know a case like that?

nickargas said:
i'm a free diver/ spear fisherman and i would love to dive with my phone and take some vids... i've found one but it's for the hatefull iphone http://www.apnea.fr/actus/liphone-amphibie does anyone know a case like that?
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You are better off buying an underwater video camera.

yeah you are probably right... lol....

Seido just put a new waterproof case on their website I think its called the "obex". Looks very similar to the life proof cases . To bad its only for the s3 at this the it looks like.
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nickargas said:
i'm a free diver/ spear fisherman and i would love to dive with my phone and take some vids... i've found one but it's for the hatefull iphone http://www.apnea.fr/actus/liphone-amphibie does anyone know a case like that?
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zizuno said:
You are better off buying an underwater video camera.
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You can buy a cheap camera setup that will do your videos from a multitude of online sources. I used to have and use an old sony handycam 8mp version and an underwater case that I used on my deep dives and wreck dives. The camera AND case cost me under $250.00

There is a place you send your phone to and they do waterproof your phone for a fee and send it back. Phone does not have to be in a case and looks stock. I remember seeing videos on it. They apply a nano-coating to electronics, making them water safe. Its the coating they put on the I5 when doing the drop test comparison against the s3 into the pool. Stupid biased comparisons. Here is two companies that offer it. You can be the guinea pig and let us know how well it works LOL.
http://www.liquipel.com/
http://www.hzoinside.com/
Here is a video for HZO on a S2: http://phys.org/news/2011-11-hzo-demos-cell-water-proofing-product.html
Looks as though the water shorts out the usb connector though making it think its being plugged in while being put into the water..

pcidiot said:
There is a place you send your phone to and they do waterproof your phone for a fee and send it back. Phone does not have to be in a case and looks stock. I remember seeing videos on it. They apply a nano-coating to electronics, making them water safe. Its the coating they put on the I5 when doing the drop test comparison against the s3 into the pool. Stupid biased comparisons. Here is two companies that offer it. You can be the guinea pig and let us know how well it works LOL.
http://www.liquipel.com/
http://www.hzoinside.com/
Here is a video for HZO on a S2: http://phys.org/news/2011-11-hzo-demos-cell-water-proofing-product.html
Looks as though the water shorts out the usb connector though making it think its being plugged in while being put into the water..
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While these APPEAR to be a good idea, however neither one of them would be suitable for what the OP is looking for. If your just wanting a coating to protect your device on a "just in case," idea, then by all means get this done to your phone, myself though, I go through enough phones that I wouldn't be able to do this at a viable means.
(General lay mans terms being used here.) One of the main reasons for the case is that when you get to +2 atmospheres (or about 20 feet under water), the pressure starts to try to push out (evacuate) all air and compress things. Without the case, the device would crush in on itself from pressure.
Again though getting a 5 atm proof case for the skyrocket would be near of negligible to the functionality of the device. You would be much better served to get an actual underwater camera case and a good but inexpensive camera. (matched of course).

Go pro 250 dive housing <---nesessary 50 boom prob solved and cheap and good quality and relatively cheap accessories. I wouldn't trust the coating due to salinity of the ocean and the possibility of not 100%of the parts getting coated 100%.
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Nexus 4 Waterproof case

With that charging orb, we could actually go wireless and never have to remove something like this:
http://www.amazon.com/iOttie-Waterp...52502584&sr=1-1&keywords=WATERPROOF+SKIN+Siii

ace7196 said:
With that charging orb, we could actually go wireless and never have to remove something like this:
http://www.amazon.com/iOttie-Waterp...52502584&sr=1-1&keywords=WATERPROOF+SKIN+Siii
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That's sick! Makes it ugly but the waterproof-ness is worth it.

ha, that's pretty neat!

so it's like putting a condom on the phone

ctowne said:
That's sick! Makes it ugly but the waterproof-ness is worth it.
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bfspider said:
ha, that's pretty neat!
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Emama said:
so it's like putting a condom on the phone
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Does this mean I don't need to get antivirus software?

yeah, you won't get aids on your phone !

Want waterproof? Get liquipel. Waterproof and no case needed. Thankfully liquipel is available in Australia now and I'm totally getting
So looking forward to my new Nexus 4
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RellikZephyr said:
Want waterproof? Get liquipel. Waterproof and no case needed. Thankfully liquipel is available in Australia now and I'm totally getting
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Your advice is WRONG and dangerous, check the 100's of videos on youtube of i-diots who ruined their i-phones for youtube views.
From their website
My device has been treated with Liquipel; can I take it swimming or surfing?
No, the Liquipel treatment is a preventative coating and is meant to protect the internal, vital components of electronics from liquid corrosion in the event of accidental liquid exposure. Just as you would not intentionally throw your device on the ground after purchasing a case, you would not want to intentionally submerge your device in liquid after having Liquipel applied.
OP's link to waterproof skins look like a much better product, but its also not true WATERPROOF, more like Spashproof.
A cheap ZIP plastic bag will work best (the thicker the better)

That is true. I am getting my device liquipel'd, but you're right I'm not going to take it swimming with me. Totally different purpose
Do not DELIBERATELY wet your phone if using products like liquipel
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There's no way we'll ever see a truly waterproof case that will let you use the phone while swimming. The phone itself would have to be designed to be waterproof from ground up.
The 2 main issues the case needs to overcome is the capacitive screen and the speaker/mic. A layer of water tends to block the touchscreen. This can be seen with wet applied screen protectors. The screen doesn't work properly until the water has been completely tried.
The more important issue is with the speaker/mic combo. In most cases watertight means air tight too. We all know what an airtight enclosure does for sound. How do you plan to make a phone call with decent volume through an airtight enclosure? Although it's possible to transmit sound through objects like with the cup/string method but like I said the phone would have to designed for use in water from the ground up.
We won't be seeing truly waterproof Nexus 4's anytime soon if at all.
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Makaijin said:
There's no way we'll ever see a truly waterproof case that will let you use the phone while swimming. The phone itself would have to be designed to be waterproof from ground up.
The 2 main issues the case needs to overcome is the capacitive screen and the speaker/mic. A layer of water tends to block the touchscreen. This can be seen with wet applied screen protectors. The screen doesn't work properly until the water has been completely tried.
The more important issue is with the speaker/mic combo. In most cases watertight means air tight too. We all know what an airtight enclosure does for sound. How do you plan to make a phone call with decent volume through an airtight enclosure? Although it's possible to transmit sound through objects like with the cup/string method but like I said the phone would have to designed for use in water from the ground up.
We won't be seeing truly waterproof Nexus 4's anytime soon if at all.
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what?
If your talking about airtight doesn't mean vacuumed environment... Air still exists inside the phone, waves can easily transfer from air -> plastic -> air...

Makaijin said:
There's no way we'll ever see a truly waterproof case that will let you use the phone while swimming. The phone itself would have to be designed to be waterproof from ground up.
The 2 main issues the case needs to overcome is the capacitive screen and the speaker/mic. A layer of water tends to block the touchscreen. This can be seen with wet applied screen protectors. The screen doesn't work properly until the water has been completely tried.
The more important issue is with the speaker/mic combo. In most cases watertight means air tight too. We all know what an airtight enclosure does for sound. How do you plan to make a phone call with decent volume through an airtight enclosure? Although it's possible to transmit sound through objects like with the cup/string method but like I said the phone would have to designed for use in water from the ground up.
We won't be seeing truly waterproof Nexus 4's anytime soon if at all.
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um...I bought a waterproof case for my Xperia S. The touch screen works perfectly without the need to be dried.
About sound waves, it travels in water and air. Air tight doesn't mean soundless. A vacuum means soundless. Two completely different concept.
And why you want phone call under the water? Most of us who wants water proof case is to take to water sports and maybe take a few videos without damaging the device.
So yes, those cases exist, in the past, now, and in the future.

be careful when you say "never", because there is a possibility
Makaijin said:
There's no way we'll ever see a truly waterproof case that will let you use the phone while swimming. The phone itself would have to be designed to be waterproof from ground up.
The 2 main issues the case needs to overcome is the capacitive screen and the speaker/mic. A layer of water tends to block the touchscreen. This can be seen with wet applied screen protectors. The screen doesn't work properly until the water has been completely tried.
The more important issue is with the speaker/mic combo. In most cases watertight means air tight too. We all know what an airtight enclosure does for sound. How do you plan to make a phone call with decent volume through an airtight enclosure? Although it's possible to transmit sound through objects like with the cup/string method but like I said the phone would have to designed for use in water from the ground up.
We won't be seeing truly waterproof Nexus 4's anytime soon if at all.
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umm, ya ..no I guess you don't get out a lot but I work at Best Buy and there is a case for the iphone 4, 4S, and 5 called lifeproof and it is waterproof up to 6 Ft my friend has it and he takes pictures underwater in my pool and they look awesome. Also about sound quality, sound quality is actually improved, I didn't believe it at first but the lifeproof case redirects sound from the bottom of the iphone and turns the whole back of the case into an amplifier, it's rather impressive technology. For plugging up the charger its no problem you just open the port, it says it keeps it's waterproof seal for thousands of open/shuts, and advises that you should open/shut it around 2 times a day and the seal should be fine. Mic works fine. The only downside to this case is the 80$ price and that you can't dock it without an extension everything else works great. And yes he does go swimming with it just not over 6ft deep.
The technology being completely possible, the nexus 4 is going to be one of the most popular phones because of its cheep price, amazing specs, being part of the pure android experience nexus line, which means tons of support from developers. It's going to be one of the most popular devices ever built and so i wouldn't doubt that they make a waterproof case for it.
Not meaning to bash you, next time just make sure to do a 10sec google search of "waterproof phone case" and see how hard they are to make before you rule out the chance of nexus 4 ever getting one/ getting one soon

RellikZephyr said:
That is true. I am getting my device liquipel'd, but you're right I'm not going to take it swimming with me. Totally different purpose
Do not DELIBERATELY wet your phone if using products like liquipel
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So you pay money for something that may or may not work?

ace7196 said:
With that charging orb, we could actually go wireless and never have to remove something like this:
http://www.amazon.com/iOttie-Waterp...52502584&sr=1-1&keywords=WATERPROOF+SKIN+Siii
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That iottie case is only a temporary case and is not meant to stay on the phone for long. I've seen it at the store and it's not very durable and wont hold up for long. Why would you want a waterproof case on your phone all the time? Even the waterproof case for the iPhone is very bulky and you wouldnt want to keep that on the phone 24/7. There is no waterproof case like that for the nexus 4 and most likely never will.
Most of the time you can salvage a phone if it just took a quick dip, the phone will power down automatically so just let it sit for a few days to dry. I've heard that dunking the wet phone in 99% iso alcohol to displace the water since the alcohol will dry much faster also works well but never tried it.

I bought today sealabox 3xl for my nexus 4. Somebody have just try it?
For me the best waterproof cover is ipega. I writed to the manufacture some months ago to ask for an nexus 4 version. Plese do the same. Sorry for my English.
http://www.ipega.hk/

Makaijin said:
There's no way we'll ever see a truly waterproof case that will let you use the phone while swimming. The phone itself would have to be designed to be waterproof from ground up.
The 2 main issues the case needs to overcome is the capacitive screen and the speaker/mic. A layer of water tends to block the touchscreen. This can be seen with wet applied screen protectors. The screen doesn't work properly until the water has been completely tried.
The more important issue is with the speaker/mic combo. In most cases watertight means air tight too. We all know what an airtight enclosure does for sound. How do you plan to make a phone call with decent volume through an airtight enclosure? Although it's possible to transmit sound through objects like with the cup/string method but like I said the phone would have to designed for use in water from the ground up.
We won't be seeing truly waterproof Nexus 4's anytime soon if at all.
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The Galaxy Active and the Xperia Z are both going to be waterproof, so I think that I will take my chances with those rather than paying 50 bucks for someone to spray paint my phone.

the problem with this waterproof case will be condensation when the cpu heats up after using the phone with gps for example! and if condensation is created in an air tight environment, the electronics of the phone will eventually see water!
That case is probably only good for just a few hours of stand by at a time and if you start recording underwater videos and your cpu starts heating up your gonna get some condensation in the phone!

R3druMz said:
the problem with this waterproof case will be condensation when the cpu heats up after using the phone with gps for example! and if condensation is created in an air tight environment, the electronics of the phone will eventually see water!
That case is probably only good for just a few hours of stand by at a time and if you start recording underwater videos and your cpu starts heating up your gonna get some condensation in the phone!
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Jesus dude not everyone is going to go swim in the water with it. More like for protection phrase you drop it in water
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Unless you phone is exuding water vapor it wont condense on to the inside of the case. Conversely your phone exuding heat would warm up the case driving away condensation.
Putting your phone into a case while in a humid environment then moving to a cold one would fog up the inside. Nothing else can really.
R3dRumz i dont mean to be dismissive but so long as your sealing the case in a humid environment the case will have the moisture within. If the phone is closed up in a dry environment its pretty much okay.

Liquipel superhydrophobic nano coating confirmed for S4!

so liquipel just responded back to my email, and confirmed they'll offer their nano coating for the galaxy s 4 for $60. I've never gotten this done before, but after Xperia Z is gonna be waterproof and S4 isn't.. i totally feel jipped.. so i think ill probably get my phone treated.
http://www.liquipel.com/
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Do they offer a guarantee on their product?
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soraxd said:
so liquipel just responded back to my email, and confirmed they'll offer their nano coating for the galaxy s 4 for $60. I've never gotten this done before, but after Xperia Z is gonna be waterproof and S4 isn't.. i totally feel jipped.. so i think ill probably get my phone treated.
http://www.liquipel.com/
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I actually got this done on my nexus about 2 weeks ago.. it works pretty good. you can't even tell its coated it looks just like every other nexus out there but is waterproof...

Anywhere to get something like this in the UK?

How does it protect ports and other crevices?
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djbenny1 said:
How does it protect ports and other crevices?
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The phone is completely waterproof even with the ports exposed.. I put my phone under water the day I got it back from liquipel.. watch this demo video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=BraTCXvf8pE

fresh_TD said:
The phone is completely waterproof even with the ports exposed.. I put my phone under water the day I got it back from liquipel.. watch this demo video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=BraTCXvf8pE
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The parylene coating stuff is pretty cool. I wish there was a way to do it easier.

i wonder if you can take off the battery cover and put it back on and it still be waterproof....one of the advantages of the S4 over the other phones is the removable battery...also wondering if putting in and taking out a set of headphones would eventually wear down the coating on the headphone port....
i dont plan on submerging a phone under water (unlike all the idiots who bought the xperia z who are now having speaker problems) but would be a nice little insurance policy of types if it did happen to fall into a puddle and i were able to pick it up and dry it of quickly
pretty cool technology either way and im sure more phones in the future will have this kind of protection coming from the factory
edit: also wondering about the speaker....i know when the xperia z showed off its water proofing no one did a speaker test after it came out of the water and it seems like everyone who bought the phone submerged it in water and the speakers have been going crazy....i see in the liquipel video they test that phones screen after it comes out but thats not what im worried about i have dropped a phone in the toilet before and dried it off and the screen still works....im more worried about the sound....

djq said:
i wonder if you can take off the battery cover and put it back on and it still be waterproof....one of the advantages of the S4 over the other phones is the removable battery...also wondering if putting in and taking out a set of headphones would eventually wear down the coating on the headphone port....
i dont plan on submerging a phone under water (unlike all the idiots who bought the xperia z who are now having speaker problems) but would be a nice little insurance policy of types if it did happen to fall into a puddle and i were able to pick it up and dry it of quickly
pretty cool technology either way and im sure more phones in the future will have this kind of protection coming from the factory
edit: also wondering about the speaker....i know when the xperia z showed off its water proofing no one did a speaker test after it came out of the water and it seems like everyone who bought the phone submerged it in water and the speakers have been going crazy....i see in the liquipel video they test that phones screen after it comes out but thats not what im worried about i have dropped a phone in the toilet before and dried it off and the screen still works....im more worried about the sound....
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If you have a phone that has a removable battery, the battery gets coated too..pretty much the entire phone gets coated.. I personally didn't test my speaker immediately after I put it in water, however I don't have any speaker issues either

looks like a must have for when taking a swim in the toilet.

ducksauce88 said:
looks like a must have for when taking a swim in the toilet.
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So how do you explain this.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70RMWiavxj0
just sayin

I really want to get my phone protected by liquipel but there are so many mixed reviews and its tough to count on company made videos as they will always show the best side...I have dropped my phone in rain and constantly take it into the bathroom to listen to music and this has resulted in water damage (I know some of you will say "well dont take it into the bathroom idiot" but its my thing dont judge)
I just emailed liquipel to see if they have a date for the s4 and will be publishing the email here once i get it...I am still on the fence about getting it.
fresh_TD said:
I actually got this done on my nexus about 2 weeks ago.. it works pretty good. you can't even tell its coated it looks just like every other nexus out there but is waterproof...
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Have you had any opportunity to test it
ducksauce88 said:
looks like a must have for when taking a swim in the toilet.
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i dont know if I want my phone if its swimming in the toilets with other things HA HA HA
tkacer said:
So how do you explain this.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70RMWiavxj0
just sayin
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As he says if you have damaged more than two phones due to water probably a good idea to get it....and that is why I will be getting it

snake oil?

Why so much buzz on plastic body for s4

Well i have been reading around the comments of the people about , how silly samsung is for making s4 all plastic when there are other phones with a good overall build quality.
Well i wont compare it with the sales of samsung but i think they have other reasons. Well i agree that metal always looks and feel great. But dont u think that plastic body is much durable. Well i have never seen any phone breaking in 2 years. People with s2 s3 notes are allbhappy with their phones. Just some scratch issues. So its bearable.
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qazibasit said:
Well i have been reading around the comments of the people about , how silly samsung is for making s4 all plastic when there are other phones with a good overall build quality.
Well i wont compare it with the sales of samsung but i think they have other reasons. Well i agree that metal always looks and feel great. But dont u think that plastic body is much durable. Well i have never seen any phone breaking in 2 years. People with s2 s3 notes are allbhappy with their phones. Just some scratch issues. So its bearable.
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definitely a big plus for samsung here is that if you do damage your case, you can just buy a new one.
if i had a GS4 i definitely wouldn't be using a 3rd party case for that reason.
my problem is that the plastic used by samsung in the gs3 and probably the gs4 is that while it may be durable - im sure it is - it just looks cheap, and that matters to me
my HTC incredible s is plastic, but its like rubberised plastic, and i think its great - it feels nice and durable, non-slippy and i think it feels like a good quality material - maybe thats just me

Actually samsung is so successful with ita galaxy line. That they are so scared of trying even a little change to it. Just like apple was scared to change ios. So they will make money from this same strategy, same looks and builds until sales drop. Till then we all have to agree with their plan.
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qazibasit said:
Well i have been reading around the comments of the people about , how silly samsung is for making s4 all plastic when there are other phones with a good overall build quality.
Well i wont compare it with the sales of samsung but i think they have other reasons. Well i agree that metal always looks and feel great. But dont u think that plastic body is much durable. Well i have never seen any phone breaking in 2 years. People with s2 s3 notes are allbhappy with their phones. Just some scratch issues. So its bearable.
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Mostly anal OCD types who really should not care because people who are THAT concerned about "wearing" these devices probably spend a lot more on Otter Boxes and "screen protectors" and never see the case or use the smooth glass. All the moaning about metal vs plastic is fun to read though.
Those of us who USE the phones without cases and "protectors" could not care less about metal or plastic and may even prefer the lighter plastic. We care about what is INSIDE...not outside. These are not "fashion statements"
Well.... I suppose the iPhone is........

tbong777 said:
Mostly anal OCD types who really should not care because people who are THAT concerned about "wearing" these devices probably spend a lot more on Otter Boxes and "screen protectors" and never see the case or use the smooth glass. All the moaning about metal vs plastic is fun to read though.
Those of us who USE the phones without cases and "protectors" could not care less about metal or plastic and may even prefer the lighter plastic. We care about what is INSIDE...not outside. These are not "fashion statements"
Well.... I suppose the iPhone is........
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Most peoples argument is, it's a flagship device and every part of it should feel 'premium' and plastic just doesn't...

The S4 body is polycarbonate (no different than devices like the Lumia 920 or the One X, except for the finish). The front of the device is Gorilla Glass 3 and the inside of the device is a magnesium frame like their previous devices (lighter and more durable than aluminum).

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Most peoples argument is, it's a flagship device and every part of it should feel 'premium' and plastic just doesn't...
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Do these "most people" get this fussy over other products that are made of plastic?
Last year I chatted with a friend who was sporting a Beats audio headset while commenting on the plastic-ness of my S3.
You can imagine my thought bubble: "lol - You got plastic wrapped around your head."
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kalo88 said:
Most peoples argument is, it's a flagship device and every part of it should feel 'premium' and plastic just doesn't...
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. "Flagship" is a matter of ones own definition Flagship to me is still the Note 2 . I don;t see anything in the S4 that trumps my Note 2. In this case the note 2 is the flagship device still. There are no rules for "flagship" devices. They are only flagship because they are the latest not the prettiest. Plastic for a device one may keep a whole year is a good business decision. Samsung will sell millions of them as usual. More than "flashy metal" Sonys and HTCs.
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knarfl1 said:
Do these "most people" get this fussy over other products that are made of plastic?
Last year I chatted with a friend who was sporting a Beats audio headset while commenting on the plastic-ness of my S3.
You can imagine my thought bubble: "lol - You got plastic wrapped around your head."
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Now THAT made me nearly spew my big Gulp into my screen. "Beats" goofy colored headphones..... another "fashion statement" I guess its all about "look at me and my stuff" over great technology. I will stll take a pair of Westone 3s over Beats anything

qazibasit said:
Well i have been reading around the comments of the people about , how silly samsung is for making s4 all plastic when there are other phones with a good overall build quality.
Well i wont compare it with the sales of samsung but i think they have other reasons. Well i agree that metal always looks and feel great. But dont u think that plastic body is much durable. Well i have never seen any phone breaking in 2 years. People with s2 s3 notes are allbhappy with their phones. Just some scratch issues. So its bearable.
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Metal may be stronger, however is does a piss poor job of absorbing impact and doesn't sprint back to it's original state. I would rather have the plastic absorb the impact than the circuits in the phone taking a beating. I skin all my stuff anyone so I am not worried about scratches.

so what about the sides where S4 has metal? Will that not pick up scratches/nicks or not bend when it will fall?
Or is that it is ok where Samsung deems it ok and not where it doesnt.
In any case, I've seen many drop tests on youtube and S3 seems to do far worse than iphone5. shame on Samsung

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so what about the sides where S4 has metal? Will that not pick up scratches/nicks or not bend when it will fall?
Or is that it is ok where Samsung deems it ok and not where it doesnt.
In any case, I've seen many drop tests on youtube and S3 seems to do far worse than iphone5. shame on Samsung
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I might be wrong but from what I have read that is not metal around the sides it is also plastic coated to look like metal just like the GS3.

I'm the type that puts the invisibleshield on
the screen and the phone in an Otterbox Defender case. Mostly because I like the heavy durable feel. But also because I like to keep the phone in near mint condition. Then when the case cracks or looks crappy I rock the phone naked. Right now my Samsung Captivate is naked and in awesome condition for being so old. I like having a scratch free phone after several years of use. To me it's like insurance, figure if I'm going to keep it a few years, which I do for ipods and phones, I may as well protect the investment.
I could go either way with plastic or aluminum. Both have their ups and downs, so I don't gripe about either. Plastic doesn't dent like aluminum, but aluminum helps dissipate heat better.
I also hate the feel of my wedding ring against a steel phone when fishing it out of my pocket. Small, but to me it makes me cringe. Like nails on a chalk board.
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force70 said:
I might be wrong but from what I have read that is not metal around the sides it is also plastic coated to look like metal just like the GS3.
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It's poly carbonate (used to make bullet proof glass)
S4 INFO

TingTingin said:
It's poly carbonate (used to make bullet proof glass)
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Same diff,either way it is not metal. We should just start calling it by one of its tradenames to avoid confusion lol.im pretty sure everyone knows what lexan is
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Can we really say that metal is better that plastic? If it was true, why did they invented it?
Here’s a little story.
Two men are on a battlefield, first man’s name is Harold Thomas Campbell (Lets call him H.T.C. for short) and the second man is called Samuel Forsyth (Let’s call him S4 for short). The two men are given the choice of two high tech armors. One is metal armor, the other is polycarbonate (light weight bulletproof) armor. H.T.C. takes the metal one and S.4. takes the polycarbonate. H.T.C. starts laughing at S.4. and said, "Your armor doesn't look premium". S4 reply “let’s see on the battlefield”. It’s the final battle against their sworn enemy, the terrible Icarus Fontana (let’s just call him ifon for short). The fight begun. Ifon brings his large army of magic metal robots. They have the power to mesmerize inferior minds. HTC and S4 are in smaller number but their android army can adapt to any situation. The battle is long and furious. Ifon is sending his elite guard called, #5. The #5 gives a quick scare but the android army counter all #5 efforts. During the battle the high tech armors starts to lose power, so S4 quickly removes his back panel and changes his power source. H.T.C.’s power is getting dangerously low but his heavy metal armor doesn’t allow him to replace the power source. He needs to find an electrical outlet nearby. H.T.C. and S4 receive many hits. HTC’s armor is all dented and scratched but still resist. S4’s armor looks untouched. The battle is raging on and S.4. is killing enemies at an incredible pace. S4 is trying to help HTC but the armor is just too low on power and too heavy to carry. HTC dies on the battlefield. Ifon’s army is retreating. S4 won this fight but the battle is not over.

Kremata said:
Can we really say that metal is better that plastic? If it was true, why did they invented it?
Here’s a little story.
Two men are on a battlefield...
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Haha thanks man! A gorgeous story to tell our grandchildren when we are grandparents!

Yes about the feel metal feels premium, but if we talk in terms of quality and durability, i would definitely say that plastic is nore durable. Plus who uses his phone for more than 2 years.
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tbong777 said:
Now THAT made me nearly spew my big Gulp into my screen. "Beats" goofy colored headphones..... another "fashion statement" I guess its all about "look at me and my stuff" over great technology. I will stll take a pair of Westone 3s over Beats anything
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Touche My Friend... Touche..!!

qazibasit said:
Actually samsung is so successful with ita galaxy line. That they are so scared of trying even a little change to it. Just like apple was scared to change ios. So they will make money from this same strategy, same looks and builds until sales drop. Till then we all have to agree with their plan.
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This is the thing dude. When you are already having dream success and that too in a hell of a competitive environment, you don't really need to change things all over. Just imagine apple today decides to bring major open source changes in ios like android or major changes in design, more than half of the customers will dislike it. It's because they are used to this closed environment. Hence making major changes with just 1 phone is not that easy.
Samsung has already replied to this criticism. Plastic is easy to make in mass production and its durable. Like it or not but it will be like this. To shut the mouth, Samsung is giving hell of other things in both software and hardware department. This should be enough to please us.

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