Despite Microsoft's stated commitment to Hyper-V in OpenStack, buggy code designed to support the hypervisor will be removed from the next version of the stack, developers decided on Wednesday.
An OpenStack developer wrote a patch that removes the Hyper-V support code, and two members of the core OpenStack team have approved the patch. That means the code will be removed when the next version of OpenStack, called Essex, is released in the second quarter. The code would have allowed a service provider to build an OpenStack cloud using Hyper-V.
Microsoft announced in late 2010 that it had contracted with a company to build support for Hyper-V in OpenStack. "But they never really finished it and the company hasn't supported it since then," said Joshua McKenty, CEO of Piston Cloud Computing, in an interview earlier this week. McKenty was the technical architect of NASA's Nebula cloud platform, which spun off into OpenStack, and is involved in the OpenStack community.
Developers working on Essex suggested late last week dropping the Hyper-V support code. The code is "broken and unmaintained," Theirry Carrez, a developer handling release management for OpenStack, wrote in a news group when suggesting that it be dropped.
After reports surfaced that the code might be removed, Microsoft sounded interested in figuring out a way to retain it. "Microsoft is committed to working with the community to resolve the current issues with Hyper-V and OpenStack," Microsoft said in a statement on Tuesday. The company did not reply to a request for comment about Wednesday's decision to remove the code.
The move impacts very few people--McKenty doesn't know of any OpenStack clouds being built on Hyper-V. But it indicates that few cloud providers are using Windows Server in their OpenStack deployments, which could be a concern for Microsoft, noted James Staten, a Forrester Research analyst, earlier this week.
Nancy Gohring covers mobile phones and cloud computing for The IDG News Service. Follow Nancy on Twitter at @idgnancy. Nancy's e-mail address is [email protected]
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REDMOND, Wash. — Feb. 21, 2008 — Microsoft Corp. today announced a set of broad-reaching changes to its technology and business practices to increase the openness of its products and drive greater interoperability, opportunity and choice for developers, partners, customers and competitors.
Specifically, Microsoft is implementing four new interoperability principles and corresponding actions across its high-volume business products: (1) ensuring open connections; (2) promoting data portability; (3) enhancing support for industry standards; and (4) fostering more open engagement with customers and the industry, including open source communities.
"Ensuring open connections to Microsoft’s high-volume products. To enhance connections with third-party products, Microsoft will publish on its Web site documentation for all application programming interfaces (APIs) and communications protocols in its high-volume products that are used by other Microsoft products. Developers do not need to take a license or pay a royalty or other fee to access this information. Open access to this documentation will ensure that third-party developers can connect to Microsoft’s high-volume products just as Microsoft’s other products do. "
"Microsoft is providing a covenant not to sue open source developers for development or non-commercial distribution of implementations of these protocols. These developers will be able to use the documentation for free to develop products."
More after the jump, direct from Microsoft:
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2008/feb08/02-21ExpandInteroperabilityPR.mspx?rss_fdn=Press%20Releases
Thank you to anyone who takes the time to read this and explain if it means any positive news for our Windows Mobile devices. They aren't high-volume devices according to the press release, and they didn't specifically mention them, but they are opening up the APIs for Exchange Server. Will that help in making apps for our XDAs? Interesting read anyways.
Here's my take.
There are two reasons for doing this.
First, as the world business climate changes and MS grows, antitrust issues are not going away. With a high probability of a democratic presidency, you can pretty well plan on more probes into MS business practices. EU regulators have already stated that they are going to be watching this one closely. Open architecture would place MS in a better position to defend themselves.
Second, "open" increases dependency. If you are a developer and you build your tools around the "open" MS architecture, where are you going to send your customers to buy base applications? In theory this would increase the number of units sold (breadth) but not increase the number of functions provided (depth). The net impact would be a much more stable revenue base for MS and not an "all or nothing" approach. Remember, Microsoft does not do ANYTHING that they do not believe contributes to their long term viability or profitability.
Hi All, Just thought i would share this here in a new thread. I posted it elsewhere in another thread but i thought it should receive more recognition. As iPhone does have a myriad of apps already that we could definitely use. If the developers here could read this and possibly help start porting some apps it would push our phones in the right direction and is the next necessary step in moving forward.
www.pcworld.com said:
Microsoft Details How to Port IPhone Apps to Windows Mobile
By Elizabeth Montalbano, IDG News Service
Microsoft has published a CASE STUDY detailing how to port an iPhone application to its Windows Mobile platform as it prepares to launch an online store for mobile applications to compete with Apple.
A post on The Windows Blog highlights a case study published on Microsoft's Microsoft Developer Network (MSDN) site containing a detailed technical blueprint that describes the porting of the iPhone application Amplitude to Windows Mobile 6.5. The report was created by a third-party consulting group, Crimson Consulting, and is meant to be a helpful document for developers as they build Windows Mobile applications for Microsoft's Windows Marketplace.
Amplitude is an iPhone app that picks up any sound in a user's immediate surroundings through a microphone, amplifies it and renders it on the device in a graphical representation. In particular, it can amplify sounds not normally picked up by the human ear, such as heartbeats.
According to the blog post by Constanze Roman, a Windows Mobile Community team project manager, Amplitude is well-suited for a porting project because it is difficult to port in a way that will provide a good learning experience for Windows Mobile developers.
"It combines a rich user interface with features such as alpha blending and transparency with specific audio and sound requirements, which makes it challenging to port the app but, at the same time, provides a number of helpful learning experiences," he wrote.
Microsoft plans to launch the Windows Marketplace for mobile applications in the fall, which in the U.S. means the late-September to late-December time frame. Last week Microsoft began accepting submissions of mobile-phone software applications for the site from registered developers in 29 countries. As an incentive, the company is offering prizes for the most popular applications as judged by downloads, revenue, usefulness and more. Apple already has a thriving marketplace for developers that build iPhone applications.
Microsoft President of Entertainment and Devices Robbie Bach acknowledged last week at the company's annual meeting of financial analysts that Microsoft's mobile business, centered around its Windows Mobile OS and development platform, did not perform well in the last fiscal year, losing market share while making modest gains in unit volume.
Apple's iPhone continues to leave most other competitors in the dust in the mobile space, and Microsoft has been struggling for some time to compete in this market. In fact, while Microsoft and most other tech companies continue to report declines across their business due to the recession, Apple is doing well financially, mainly because of its booming iPhone business.
In addition to the apps marketplace, Bach said Microsoft has a few ideas to improve its mobile business, including adding talent to the team and continuing to innovate on the platform without building its own hardware to compete with the iPhone, which analysts have suggested it should do.
Analysts agree that Microsoft needs more than an online store to boost its mobile business. Matt Rosoff, an analyst with Directions on Microsoft, said recently that Microsoft would serve itself well by making an acquisition in the mobile space, which is not completely unlikely given the company has been hoarding cash instead of buying back a lot of its stock, going against what analysts have expected.
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This kind of thread have been discussed many times & turn out to be a flaming thread instead.
There're many haters when you just mention the "iPhxne" in this forum, but too immature for their behavior.
Having great apps in any platform device have no wrong or restriction,
it's either users can accept it or not, like accepting another race in your own community.
But then let us see how many will these haters download the ported apps if was really done.
*Cheers*
Join me in here, so that there wont be any more flames.
This topic is currently being discussed in other threads. So... thread closed. Sorry.
Maybe...
Apparently it was almost a completed bit of code when HP announced they were withdrawing from the mobile phone market...
Here's an online petition to encourage OpenMobile and HP to finish tidying up the project and to release it in some form:
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/...utm_source=system&utm_campaign=Send+to+Friend
Please consider showing support for this idea by signing the online petition.
I created a thread over at the MS Surface Support forums and yesterday a forums admin posted there saying that MS is now working on API access for the OEMs so they can write clients.
Exciting news that at least MS is saying something about it.
Agreed. It would also be good if it's something that anybody can code against, not just huge companies (my company uses OpenVPN, and while the official devs may or may not care about porting it, *somebody* would if it were possible).
The translation of an interesting article about WAZE:
http://news.nana10.co.il/Article/?ArticleID=1097303
Channel 10 News, "The Source": the drivers that vanished from Waze success map
By Itay Rom December 10, 2014
About less than a decade ago, many enthusiastic volunteers were enlisted by an anonymous hi-tech guy to a new project that wanted to make free, open and reliable road navigation software. They spent hours in remote roads, in nightly discussions and code fix of a software that were never meant to become commercial, but in spite of that, was sold to Google for 1 Billions $. "We got a fragrance tree and a sticker" they told Channel 10 News. Waze response: "They try to make money on our back".
"It's such a feeling, Patriotic, Idealistic. Mapping the country from scratch". Said to "The Source" Roey Gorodish, one of those many drivers you never heard of, but still have significant role in one of the enormous success of Israeli Hi-tech in the last years.
Google paid no less than $1B for acquiring Waze, the Israeli navigation app – that actually was initiated as croudsource project, by enthusiastic volunteers. In early 2006, they joined "Freemap – the Israeli free project map", encouraged by Ehud Shabtai, a young Hi-tech engineer back then, that one day decided that he is tired of map data that can cost thousands of dollars.
Shabtai decided that the best approach to such a revolutionary project would contact the drivers themselves. He posted on Technology forums such as "Tapuz" and others, and asks the users to join the unique challenge: "The only way to develop something free is by creating a community that develops free maps by itself", and he adds that "The Project needs the community as much as the community needs the Project".
Dozens joined the Project and cooperates for that cause and by understanding that the Project is not commercial. Shabtai himself used to clarify to the users that "All map data is freely released on a daily basis. This is how the Project operates and that won't change".
The drivers spent days and nights to travel the country, in nameless streets and places, in order to map them accurately. Super users were appointed in order to fix mistakes, inaccuracies and other problems. Later on, Area-mangers were appointed too and so were programmers that amended the software open source code. The ambitious enterprise in evolving and ironically, intents to come up against Google Maps enterprise.
A little while after the iPhone lunching, the project excitedly declared the new software is adaptive from now on to cellphones, for the first time in Israel and worldwide. It was also a turning point for Shabtai, the founder, which met a Strategic Consultant form the Technology field who suggested to "Incorporate a Business Enterprise and make something big".
Apparently, while Waze founders projected the investors that they are about to make millions thanks to the volunteering's work – an entirely different story was told to the volunteers. "I once talked with Ehud about money and he said he didn't believe he would ever sell. It was very important for us the money won't be involved, community software only", said one of the volunteering drivers, that admits that if the founders told that they are already businesswise, some of his friends would have quit the Project.
Only during May 2008, after the first round of investment raised dozens of million Shekels, while the map is already very progressive – Shabtai update the volunteers that he has raised funds and about to establish a corporation. The volunteers receive email message with thanks for their efforts, and sometimes a fragrance tree or a sticker. Their efforts outcomes are now "Owned or to be licensed by Waze", meaning the users can't create a new free open software.
Waze commented: "Tendentious and distorted claims, with groundless factual "
"Waze founders and the company, invented from scratch complex and innovative technology, inputting much talent, effort and capital. Using that, Waze created a unique application that among other things, created social network of drivers and navigation capabilities, mapping and real-time traffic. Waze continues developing the technology constantly, gave and continue to give her community users much value.
We were asked to comment on several claims that reflect, as we were told, claims from a class action suit filed against the company and founders. Those are tendentious and distorted claims, with groundless factual". We feel it's an illegitimate attempt of a few to unlawfully earn on the expense of Waze innovation and success. Waze and its cofounders have a long list of arguments that totally rebut all claims, but that could be addressed only in court. Especially while the procedure is in its early stages, and as the court hasn't approved the class action suit and as a request to dismiss the suit is addressed by the court.
We are sorry the program editorial decided to publish those claims, and combined them in a distorted way while jumping to baseless conclusions".