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As of this time, we do not have a way to restore to stock rom. We are waiting for the rom to be reuploaded somewhere. If you have it, please get with me.
Click here and download the three files:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27647443&postcount=441
Unzip and place those three files on your sd card that goes in your zeen.
Power off the zeen.
Insert the sd card.
Hold the two volume buttons, then press and hold the power button and wait for the flash to complete.
It will say to remove sd card and press any key. Do so.
Once powered up, your should have a semi aosp build of....I think it's 2.2, correct me if wrong.
just ordered one from hp using purchaseedge points. free tablet=good. should be here this week. cant wait to start playing around with it. i cant imagine hp spent a ton trying to secure the hardware from hackers, since it is only a $400 device. hopefully this will gain more interest now that the samsung tab isnt living to the hype
metfoo said:
just ordered one from hp using purchaseedge points. free tablet=good. should be here this week. cant wait to start playing around with it. i cant imagine hp spent a ton trying to secure the hardware from hackers, since it is only a $400 device. hopefully this will gain more interest now that the samsung tab isnt living to the hype
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I don't really think this things is gonna get much further. I wish it would, but of all the people on here only like 6 have it.
i just bought one yesterday ($299 @ bb w/ staples pricematch). haven't had a chance to do much with it yet, but i'll play with it this weekend. btw, i'm in KC too.
i have one also one issue though i dont have the printer for the setup is there a workaround for this? >_<
Don't need printer to setup
you shouldn't need a printer to set up just ZEEN. I know it forces you to dock ZEEN to printer, in that case, pull the menu down from the top, manually go into settings. Let me see if I can come up with documentation. I just did it and its working fine.
jlechner,
do you remember which version of Z4root u used?
Come on people... Lets root this thing...
metfoo said:
just ordered one from hp using purchaseedge points. free tablet=good. should be here this week. cant wait to start playing around with it. i cant imagine hp spent a ton trying to secure the hardware from hackers, since it is only a $400 device. hopefully this will gain more interest now that the samsung tab isnt living to the hype
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I have had my Zeen for two weeks now. One thing that has been very helpful is taking all the apk. files I like on EVO and putting them on the Zeen sd card. Most are working great!
I would like to know Z4 root that was used also.
nark0117 said:
you shouldn't need a printer to set up just ZEEN. I know it forces you to dock ZEEN to printer, in that case, pull the menu down from the top, manually go into settings. Let me see if I can come up with documentation. I just did it and its working fine.
jlechner,
do you remember which version of Z4root u used?
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No, but after you asked that I remember when I used the latest one, it kinda messes up. It puts it in some kind of test mode, and upon almost any reboot wipes everything.
z4root v1.3.0 gives me temporary "partial" root. Superuser works for some root apps like Root Explorer and AutoStart, but Titanium Backup and AutoStart do not see root.
Still unable to use RomManager because the device is still NAND locked.
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Has this gone anywhere? I just picked up a printer and got the pretty nifty tablet with it... or is that I picked up an HP Zeen tablet and got a pretty functional printer with it... Either way NIFTY COMBO!!
I have a rooted Nexus One and Motorola Backflip as well as a jailbroken iPhone 4, 3GS, and 3G.
This thing has to have a loophole somewhere. If we could get it running Android 2.2 and drop that horrific Yahoo interface we might be getting somewhere.
HP Zeen
I am having the same issues with the Z4root. Some things work and some thing don't recognize the root.
The one thing I love about the tablet is the battery life. I installed everything that was on my IPOD, and plug it into any amp--hours of music, and it is great for watching movies.
It is like getting free tablet with a great printer. No monthly payment!!!
Holding both volume buttons at boot will ask to erase the user data. But that's all I've found so far.
Has anyone been able to use Dolphin HD browser on this? Amazon has the Printer for $296 with free shipping. Now the price point is where it should be. Could someone list the known working apps for this tablet? Thanks.
Edit: I found it for $259.99 from Adorama with free shipping.
td1320, i have been using Dolphin Browser HD on the Zeen for about a month and a half now, it works great.
Zeen root
Which rooted apps have you been able to put in??
Do you guys recommend this printer? I have seen some bad reviews.
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The printer is pretty good to me. It's fast and responsive. On another note, I tried installing the marketplace on this tablet and it keeps coming back it couldn't be installed. I wonder why... Astro File Manager works!
nark0117 said:
you shouldn't need a printer to set up just ZEEN. I know it forces you to dock ZEEN to printer, in that case, pull the menu down from the top, manually go into settings. Let me see if I can come up with documentation. I just did it and its working fine.
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Hi, I got one of these at a junksale today minus the printer or anything to charge it.
I have made up a charger with correct voltage & amps and fitted a suitable plug. It charges.
I am still to get past the setup screen much help would be appreciated in knowing how you do this - if at all possible.
One thing I have been able to do is when battery warning comes on access the dashboard and connect it to my wireless network. I am looking though the settings now to see if this setup process can be overridden in there by perhaps deleting something or killing a service.
I have an IP address of it sat on my network, could you SSH into it I wonder?
Ideally I could do with taking it into a store and just plugging it into one on the shelf on display. But that would be a bit cheeky.
Can anyone help?
Thanks
Andrew
hostyorkshire said:
Hi, I got one of these at a junksale today minus the printer or anything to charge it.
I have made up a charger with correct voltage & amps and fitted a suitable plug. It charges.
I am still to get past the setup screen much help would be appreciated in knowing how you do this - if at all possible.
One thing I have been able to do is when battery warning comes on access the dashboard and connect it to my wireless network. I am looking though the settings now to see if this setup process can be overridden in there by perhaps deleting something or killing a service.
I have an IP address of it sat on my network, could you SSH into it I wonder?
Ideally I could do with taking it into a store and just plugging it into one on the shelf on display. But that would be a bit cheeky.
Can anyone help?
Thanks
Andrew
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I picked my Zeen up from a local classified site for $50 because the kid couldnt get it past the printer setup. I'm assuming it was probably stolen the more I think of it, since if it was purchased with the printer it would be setup already... but I bought it from someone who claimed to be the original owner so i cant do much more about it.
On The Way home I had a brilliant idea.
I stopped at staples, took my zeen in and docked it on their printer for 30 seconds and it finished the setup... Pretty easy...
However, I have since reset the device and foun an easier way.
YOU MUST HAVE A POWER/DATA Mini-USB CABLE FOR THIS!
it can not be just a power cable, it has to have DATA capabilities.
(I Used A MacBook For This But It Should Work For A PC)
-Plug in your USB cable to the computer
-Plug In your Zeen AC Adapter (YOU MUST HAVE AN AC ADAPTER AND MINI USB)
-then boot your zeen to the setup menu
-plug in the mini usb to your zeen and hopefully it gives you the option to continue setup. (If it doesnt give it about 60 seconds)
-If it doesnt work unplug the mini-usb and plug it back in
I have reset twice now and this has worked for me.
-If it doesn't show up unplug the mini-usb and then plug it back in.
I have reset twice now, the first time i had to unplug it a few times but the 2nd reset it took it the first time.
I first got interested in touch screen technology about 4 or 5 years ago when I started college. I faced with the option of getting a powerful laptop, which I was going to need being a computer major, or get a convertible laptop. I studied the problem for a long time and decided that the technology had not progressed far enough to warrant spending so much money on something that had so little real power under the hood. Fast forward a few years and not only has the technology progressed, but is pervasive to say the least. The Infinity is the first tablet I have owned. I know, I might of kinda tried to kill a mosquito with a cannon, but your sure to hit your mark.
I often find myself in conversation with other people trying to justify the money I spent on the tablet with the inevitable question, "Well, what does it do?" I must admit I find myself at a loss of words. I have so many things run though my mind that it can do, i'm just flabbergasted with all the possibilities. I concluded it would be easier to focus on the things that it can not do. The question I pose to you is this, "What can you do on a laptop that you can not do on an android tablet?" We can just go ahead and assume that we are talking about a rooted and unlocked device, because lets be honest, if you find yourself reading forums on a developers website you are probably not your average consumer of electronic devices. I would like to start a running list on this question as I find it is a question I hear a lot from people looking to buy a tablet. At this point, I would say that the caveats of owning a tablet are as follows:
>The obvious answer is less powerful hardware.
>Lots of software is not compatible with Android, but not necessarily a problem, bc there are a host of other android apps that preform almost on par to their desktop counter parts.
> there are limitations on the peripherals due to lack of drivers. (I bring this up, bc, well, I really want to shoot a nerf canon at my dog wirelessly with my tablet.)
>Android does not support writing to external dvd/cd drives, but they can read.
>I pretty sure you can not boot from USB, limiting your ability to run live versions of various os'. I do network security, so I really want Linux Backtrack, and no the virtualized version just does not seem to cut it for me yet, but they are getting closer.
>No room for hardware upgrade
>Weight, I bring this up as a negative, because where there footprint of my device has diminished, I find myself carrying an onslaught of accessories. Stop me if you heard this one:
-Stylus
-USB adapter
-Micro sd card sleeve
-mini USB Hub
-Bluetooth Keyboard, just had one on hand so did not buy dock.
-Headphones
-Charger
-sometimes the micro hdmi cable.
-Small speaker
-screen cloth ( as another member put it, 10" of OCD glory)
-Grid-it Case to orginize all of it
-oh, and a portable surge protector. Overkill you say. I direct you to previous statement about canon.
>No true multitasking, such as split-screen window with to programs, and yes i know you can do it it with some, but your choices are limited in that respect.
>I will need someone to chime in on the next one, but I think you can not use two bt devices at the same time. Someone verify that pls.
>I for some reason can not get this tablet to communicate with my french press no matter how many times it with my Infinity.
I am intentionally omitting the topic of games because that would require a whole different thread. Let's try to stick to utilities and tools. Feel free to point out any mistakes as the goal is to learn.
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lowki said:
>I will need someone to chime in on the next one, but I think you can not use two bt devices at the same time. Someone verify that pls.
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Actually, you can - for example, I can use my bluetooth mouse while at the same time play music through my Belkin Bluetooth Music receiver.
Also, if you have a keyboard dock, a lot of those accessories aren't needed (USB hub, BT keyboard, Card Reader, charger, etc).
But, most of your points are true. One thing that I've found tough to do on a tablet is use MS-Project files. I do have an app to read them, but it isn't the best (plus, it can't edit them)...
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jtrosky said:
Actually, you can - for example, I can use my bluetooth mouse while at the same time play music through my Belkin Bluetooth Music receiver.
Also, if you have a keyboard dock, a lot of those accessories aren't needed (USB hub, BT keyboard, Card Reader, charger, etc).
But, most of your points are true. One thing that I've found tough to do on a tablet is use MS-Project files. I do have an app to read them, but it isn't the best (plus, it can't edit them)...
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try quick office (hd, makes slideshows great)
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Midnitte said:
try quick office (hd, makes slideshows great)
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Quick Office doesn't support MS-Project files...
I think you are thinking of a different Microsoft product...
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Terminal IDE and linux in a chroot
On my laptop I can do serious processing of camera RAW files using Adobe Lightroom (or other processing engines). I have yet to find a true tablet-based equivalent capability.
Dave
No way in recent times can a tablet run like a laptop period.
This is a no brainer...
The latest notebooks are very powerful even in the simplest form.
When it comes to things like; Poser Pro, DAZ Studio, Adobe CS, MS office, Maya, Acrobat, Lightwave, Bryce or whatever you're going to need to lean on a PC or Mac.
Perhaps some day, but not today.
This is all moot
laptop beats it clean.
Heck I was trying to do a simple Google search from the address bar in the Chrome browser on my Infinity tablet. It stalled for a good minute.
In that minute I went over to my PC, launched Chrome, did the exact same action. Boom, it pulled up the results instantly.
I've been wondering how come Chrome works so solid on Windows and lackluster on Google's Android OS until I realized it's likely hardware.
The x86/x64 Intel based CPUs that make of the heart of Windows, Linux, and even MacOS have been in this game for more than a 2 decades and they've been constantly optimizing the CPU for the internet for half of it.
nVidia hasn't, they've making video cards for the majority. I'm starting to think now that had I thought with my old hardware geek mind, I would have never gone with a Android tablet, I should have bought a Windows tablet PC.
Sure, a laptop may be more powerful, but let's see your laptop get over 12 hours of battery life!
For *most* daily tasks, even MS-Office viewing and editing, a tablet can do just fine (at least with a keyboard dock). That's one reason why I bought the Transformer and really won't even consider a tablet without a true keyboard dock option anymore - without the keyboard dock, the device is just too limited for anything other than media consumption.
Add a nice keyboard dock and the tablet can instantly do *so* much more, while still being a great tablet when needed. I just wish there were more options when it came to a tablet with a keyboard dock! It kinda sucks being forced to go with Asus for this type of hybrid device.... But, I think that is slowly changing - it seems more devices with true keyboard docks are on the way. Asus better step up their game in the quality department, that's for sure!
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the_game_master said:
laptop beats it clean.
Heck I was trying to do a simple Google search from the address bar in the Chrome browser on my Infinity tablet. It stalled for a good minute.
In that minute I went over to my PC, launched Chrome, did the exact same action. Boom, it pulled up the results instantly.
I've been wondering how come Chrome works so solid on Windows and lackluster on Google's Android OS until I realized it's likely hardware.
The x86/x64 Intel based CPUs that make of the heart of Windows, Linux, and even MacOS have been in this game for more than a 2 decades and they've been constantly optimizing the CPU for the internet for half of it.
nVidia hasn't, they've making video cards for the majority. I'm starting to think now that had I thought with my old hardware geek mind, I would have never gone with a Android tablet, I should have bought a Windows tablet PC.
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Its only bad optimization on the infinity tablet. As the same SoC, only a slower version, it is extremly speedy on the nexus 7 tablet. We just have to hope for the best with the JB update.
And for Windows tablet PCs, the batterylife is nowhere compareable to ultrabooks and the infinity. So you have that downside.
I think this is at the root of many of the complaints from people. It looks like a laptop so why doesn't it perform like one. For basic tasks this is a really fantastic device but lets face it, your are running an OS based for something meant to be on and in your pocket 24/7. Its getting better but will it have the physical ability to do the things that a device with 20+ years of development? Not any time soon.
For me the always on feature is really awsome, touchscreen, small size and low power consumption help too. It replaces my laptop on travel and has opened the doors to media that I rarely used on my Viao. But the Viao still sits in its dock on my desk and splashtop manages to cover the shortcommings.
I think there would be less complaints if people did more research prior to purchase, not just about the device but also about the OS.
Of course the tablet won't take over the laptop in demanding tasks. The hardware for the laptop is a lot better. But the weight, battery life, portability, etc on a tablet is much better. Different devices for different purposes. But the dock is precisely why I like this device so much. It's still not a laptop, but at least for certain tasks I can make it as fast as one (for input). I definitely won't have to buy a laptop any time soon, since I already have a PC to do powerful tasks.
To each his own, I guess.
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Current info on it - Android 4.1.1 and stock build - epad-10.4.4.23-20121127
I was rooted for about 2 months and had the tracking cilents frozen in titanium. About 2 weeks ago I saw a thread about the update for .23 firmware. I went and unfroze the clients and did a reboot with no problem getting the OTA update and restoring root. Before this I was able to hook up my tablet to a pc and transfer files. I didn't have need to use this function until last night when I discovered that it will no longer recognize being attached to the pc.
Essentially nothing happens. There is no sound and notification icon on the pc that a device was attached. Nothing shows up in device manager. The tablet doesn't show the USB connection icon. To make sure the usb port was good i connected my cell phone to it, bluetooth dongle, and a thumb drive. It works fine. This system runs XP with the drivers previously installed and working. I tried my laptop that runs Vista and worked fine previously when connected. Again I get the same issue. Even their Asus sync software on the pc shows no device attached. Just now I tried hooked up the tablet to my work pc and no change. That makes 3 pc's that I've attempted.
I can only think it was the firmware update. That was the only change I made to the system. Last night I did a factory reset of stock to see if a setting got messed up somewhere but there is still no connection. I probably lost root in that process and since it won't connect to the a pc, I doubt I can get that back. That is the least of my concerns though. I fear that something physical with the connector went bad that tells the OS a pc connection is occurring. Would that even be possible to happen yet work fine for charging the tablet?
Thanks for any suggestions or comments.
Yes, it is the JB update if your PC is running XP (not sure about Vista, but it's probably the same). You probably noticed that the options for USB connection in JB are limited to Media and Camera? Under JB the tablet sadly does not connect as an external drive to a XP PC anymore.
The Infinity does shows up under Windows 7 as an external device. I looked high and low, but there does not seem to be a fix for XP.
My work-around for anything I do not want in my Dropbox (which is by far the smoothest way to get something from your PC to your tablet) is using Airdroid from the play store. That app uses your WiFi network to transfer files. Works great! And no cables!
Larger files, like movies, I transfer via SD card. Truth be told - I do not really miss the USB connection anymore.
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It's odd that it won't recognise a connection at all. Have you tried reflashing the full stock firmware?
Under JellyBean, XP, Vista, 7 and 8 recognise it as a Portable Media Device. My main PC runs XP SP3, so no, it's not an XP-issue.
With ICS it used to be an external drive, but sadly that ended with JB. (Which is a feature I thoroughly detest on every device including my sgs3, but alas.) Originally they deleted the feature in ICS to begin with, but for some reason it continued to work on some TF700's. Not all of them, though.
I miss UMS.... MTP drives me insane on any device. It keeps whining about literally every file format that it "is not natively compatible with the device [insert 16 more lines of text I have stopped reading because it is actually longer than the dialogue window...]" . Even .jpgs.... Which is ridiculous, as stock gallery recognises .jpgs just fine.
I mailed the tablet in for RMA and they, well someone at the center, signed for it on Friday. I tried doing the wipes and even downloaded the firmware from Asus and reinstalled it from the sd card. Nothing happens when it's connected. I got it working originally under XP following a guide somewhere on here. You have to update windows media player or something like that to end the failed driver update error. It will install the MTP support or proper drivers that are not included in XP. But yeah, now in Vista or my XP machines nothing happens and I can only assume it's hardware with the connector not recognizing a pc signal. It was working fine with JB installed before.
When I called into support their answer was RMA anyway. I had already done everything the support person was going to ask; reboot, factory reset, try different pc, make sure the usb ports work. Aside form a little screen bleed the tablet has worked without a problem until this last firmware update. There other ways for getting media to the device and that didn't concern me. It is the inability to connect the device to the pc for actions such as rooting, unlocking, or other similar functions that bother me. I had it rooted (lost now that I kept trying different wipes etc) but feared something going wrong later if I unlocked it and lost warranty. Once warrant is up this device is fair game and going unlocked for sure.
In case anyone else encounters the same problem, apparently the connector went bad on the tablet. They replaced the part under warranty. Took about 10 days in total and so far the only issues I see with the tablet is bent metal where the connector and one of the prong holes for the dock is and the screen. I assume the bent metal is from the tools used to pry open the case. The glass over the screen seems mushy and a bit popped up now on the edges. Don't know if that is something I should worry about or just expect since it was opened.
It did come back with 10.4.4.16 firmware. I was real tempted before to unlock and really let the tablet shine but hesitant now. They may not have covered the warranty repair if I did and I don't have another $500 to drop if something else goes bad that isn't minor.
No pc recgnized
I had this happen a few days ago after rom-ing ..... In win 7......
2 thoughts
1. Check in settings mk sure pc sync / connect to pc is enabled...
2. Install asus sync on ur pc
good luck
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Here in the usa most states have warranty laws that void their claim that unlocking it voids the warranty...and last year the supreme court ruled that jailbreaking was legal in all 50 states, this claim by asus is clearly seen for what it is....a veiled attempt to not have to honor warranty on zillions of devices...to save their scamming butts alot of money
on std warranty repairs. Its a scam, they know it.....and now u know it....
If u unlock, your state warranty laws will in most cases still enforce your warranty...
If u threaten to file a class action suit agianst them for it, they will back down and honor your warranty....or they loose bigtime......
Asus corporate is not...your friend
I've recently completed a trip to Disney World with my family and took over 300 Pictures. I used my MS PRO 3 to store the pics and do some work.. Unfortunately i woke up today and the device won't boot up.
I took the Microsoft store where i bought it for assistance and i was told it is most likely gone forever.
Since this is suppose to be a Laptop replacement, they're able to reach the Hard drive registry and pull any folder that is customer created or use a USB drive and install the corrupted files?
I was wondering is there is any ways to retrieve this pictures or document. Know with a standard laptop its possible. Why not the pro.
You may ask why, Why i didn't save it thru One Drive, Well the photo were too big and the types of transfer is not allow... I never had these types of issues with my android devices($500) something different with the Surface pro 3 ($1400).
Hypothetically, you could extract the solid-state drive from the tablet and connect that to another device. You'd pretty much need to take the tablet to pieces to do so, though.
This is the same problem you would have if any other device with non-removable storage (MBA, iPad, Android tablet, $300 Dell Venue 8 Windows tablet, etc.) doed so completely you couldn't even begin the boot process, by the way. It sucks that it happened to a high-end device but that's what warranties are for. As for the lost photos, well, that sucks but unless they're still on the camera memory card then recovering them is going to be difficult and/or expensive if it's possible at all, and it might not be.
mseck said:
I've recently completed a trip to Disney World with my family and took over 300 Pictures. I used my MS PRO 3 to store the pics and do some work.. Unfortunately i woke up today and the device won't boot up.
I took the Microsoft store where i bought it for assistance and i was told it is most likely gone forever.
Since this is suppose to be a Laptop replacement, they're able to reach the Hard drive registry and pull any folder that is customer created or use a USB drive and install the corrupted files?
I was wondering is there is any ways to retrieve this pictures or document. Know with a standard laptop its possible. Why not the pro.
You may ask why, Why i didn't save it thru One Drive, Well the photo were too big and the types of transfer is not allow... I never had these types of issues with my android devices($500) something different with the Surface pro 3 ($1400).
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Well, it's not really fair to compare the SP3 to an Android device. Android uses ARM processors and the SP3 uses x86 processors. x86 is the kind of processor that you would find in a laptop or desktop. You should be able to retrieve any files from your SP3 as you would from a laptop. It has the same hardware as a laptop.
Keep in mind that MS has 14 day return policy as does most computer retailers. If it is a mechanical failure it is under warranty and they will replace it. If you have a replacement plan they will replace it no matter what.
Unfortunately, most will tell you that the way to get files from a busted PC is to take the hard drive out and put in a different PC. I don't think you want to take your SP3 apart for a few files.
The best solution would be to find a way to boot your PC from a USB. If you can manage that, you can copy the files to a USB. You're probably going to need a USB hub.
Forget it guys let's admit it the sp3 is a beautiful piece of hardware and fantastic fete of engineering. But truth be told mine bricked on day 1 and had to spent an extra 200$ shipping it back for an exchange from Microsoft.
There are way too many occasions reported that I wonder what the mac boys would say about this. Thinks I wanna let the cat out of the bag.
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Take it you dont have a mSD card in the machine and use File History?
Just wanted to know what people have got running on thier systems now adays..
I had a 128g sdcard and a 32g USB in the PX3 that did the trick. But now I have changed cars and upgraded the unit.. am looking at using a few SSD's I have kicking around.
There was old threads on guys setting up external powered USB hubs and running 1t 2.5 drives when these units first came out..
But with the advent of low powered SSD's almost a dime a dozen.. (well 250gb for under $50).. with luck there is not too many barriers to plug and play..
I say that tongue in cheek as I know about the limits of Android previously seeing anything over 32gb & 64gb..but as it has matured it has been getting better with the storage situation..
So what is max people have got going at the moment?
While I am at it..
(And I didn't think it was right.to clutter up the ROMs threads with this question)
Split screen ROMs..
Just had a look at both devolopment ROMs and couldn't see if any had the ability.
I remember seeing a few units with this ability around the traps as I was searching for mine.. ( maybe just a sales gimick)
But the old transformers had this ability via the very talented Tim's rom work and I am surprised it hasn't become the norm in Android..
I do understand that we have 'draw over top of other apps' permission.. and that gmaps does do it's little minimizer thing..but it's kinda crude in that it is taking re-estate on top of say the music app..
A better look on these bigger screens would be GPS on one side and music on the other..
I mean they have the CPU and GPU memory to handle this..
The Android 8.0 ROMs do have split screen (even stock). With an app open, just press and hold the "recent apps" button and you can then select another app to run and they will run in split screen mode.
However, not all apps support this - and some will force-close as well. It's a nice feature to have, but it's a little limited right now.
Give it a try though...
Thanks for that will try it and report back.
Understand that it's also a safety issue while driving..
(Lol and that is another conversation ).
But seriously it would be better to set this up before hitting the road. i.e GPS navigation on one side and selection of music playing on the other..and or radio stations..
That way your not trying to reach across playing with it while driving.
I know, I know and it's been debated a tad in another thread. Thus the reason they are supposed to be locked down from driver interaction via motion sensors.
Which if a named brand, is a good idea to migrate liabilities.. you don't want to be held liable if some fool crashes and kills themselves and or others while using a entertainment system that comes stock with a car.. (nanny state type scenario).
This also brings up good steering wheel key mapping especially now that many of these units are going down the path of being knob less..and we are going for the full screen experience.
dgcruzing said:
Just wanted to know what people have got running on thier systems now adays..
I had a 128g SD card and a 32g USB in the PX3 that did the trick. But now I have changed cars and upgraded the unit.. am looking at using a few SSD's I have kicking around.
There was old threads on guys setting up external powered USB hubs and running 1t 2.5 drives when these units first came out..
But with the advent of low powered SSD's almost a dime a dozen.. (well 250gb for under $50).. with luck there is not too many barriers to plug and play..
I say that tongue in cheek as I know about the limits of Android previously seeing anything over 32gb & 64gb..but as it has matured it has been getting better with the storage situation..
So what is max people have got going at the moment?
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128GB sd card, formatted Fat32 (by android unit itself)
Works fine except
Oreo want to "check CF card for errors" each time it comes out of sleep, or on boot.
With and 8GB or 16GB CF card, that does not take too much time, but a 128GB CF takes about 45 seconds !!!
Maybe a USB SSD (as opposed to a USD Flash Drive stick), would not require this error Check. I suspect a USB Flash drive will.
This alone might be the justification for a USB SSD
Haven't been able to test it as yet .
Seems I got the slow boat from China on this supplier of SSD and M2 housings..
With luck they are here this week and can run some tests and report back.
Pretty sure these are not USB 3 connections we have but USB 2?.. need to check the specs..do know there is 3 USB inputs on the unit..
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Haven't been able to test it as yet .
Seems I got the slow boat from China on this supplier of SSD and M2 housings..
With luck they are here this week and can run some tests and report back.
Pretty sure these are not USB 3 connections we have but USB 2?.. need to check the specs..do know there is 3 USB inputs on the unit..
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Might do better to actually measure the speed with a 3.0 USB device.
They can say anything in the spec !!!
It may be 3.0, but it also may be slow !!
Finally the bits and pieces arrived today and had a quick play with it..
So far not looking good.
Will document it a bit more and report back..
But it seems the same old story as with the PX3 machines..and the limitations of Android.
While this is being addressed in newer versions of phones and Android version upgrades.. i.e the phones with 128 and 256g ..
These units are still limited to the lower end spectrum.
But with that being said..
The 180g SSD and housing through the machine into a tantrum.. as in pulling to much power through the ports it seems. As lost GSP ability..
Yes truely.. could not get a satellite fix . Pulled the drive and it worked.. put 32gig USB in..not drama..SSD back in and same..
Dropped the 256g M2 in.. formatted as Fat32.. and it was seen via that machine..but as I was in a hurry..I didn't get time to copy anything across to it..
Had a quick play tonight and was thinking about transfer from internal memory to it..but now it's not being seen..
Will put it through the format again and see if it works..
Got to be noted I am using generic Chinese housings..and thus anything could be up with these..
As even with the formatting..there is a bit to play around with..as in..my win10 machines are not seeing them but when I plug them into the Synology they are showing up fine..
Once again.. what have others been successful with or is it just the 128g USBs sticks that are going to have to do?.
And from reading..most are only loading up 1x of the USB ports due to the problematic USB board/port burn out?..
Seems a waste to have 3x USB ports and can't use them.. have tested all 3 with the 32g USB..and they are seeing it and playing music and video off it..
Personally, I'm happy just using the SD card slots. With a custom ROM, 128GB NTFS cards work great (read and write). I recently just tried disabling the filesystem check as well and now they basically mount almost instantly. Since i never remove them, I don't see the need to check the filesystems every time the unit comes out of sleep. So far, I haven't had any issues. If I ever do run into issues, I'll re-enabled the filesystem check since it only took a few seconds with NTFS anyway - even with fully-loaded 128GB SD cards.
For me, with (2) SD cards slots and 128GB SD cards (never tried 256GB cards) - that is plenty of storage. Plus, you can always switch SD cards as well. I just don't have the need for more that 256GB of storage on my head-unit. I'm guessing that you could use 128GB or 256GB NTFS USB thumb drives as well (so 3x128GB or probably even 3x256GB). You just need to root and/or install a custom ROM. It's really easy to do - with all of the effort you are putting into trying to make things work with stock un-rooted, you can have easily installed a custom ROM and went that route. You can always go back to stock un-rooted if you want/need to.
Or - maybe you can connect a powered USB hub if USB power is the issue? Obviously, you'd need to figure out how to power it, but I'm sure it can be done...
Yes.. chances are I will go down the custom rom route.
Just haven't had the time to sit in the car for the afternoon and flash it.
The unit I have got hasn't got sdcard slots.
(Or it may have but from some reading there is a possibility that there is one hidden behind the facing they put on to suit each car... I did have a check before install on how that is put on and seems it's just a set of screws.. and I suppose I can just send an email to the team and ask..lol)
That was the setup on the PX3 unit just had a 128 sdcard and it worked fine..
Only reason I grabbed the housing for the SSD's and M2 was they where sitting doing nothing so I might as well use them for something and or give them away.
Anyway will book an afternoon in for a play as the after market reversing cam wiring harness turned up today.. with luck it's just plug and play..
Might flash a rom and upgrade the MCU..
As per banter in some of the other threads..once the setup is done and I am a happy camper with stability.. then won't be a flashaholic as don't see the need to flash for flashing sake..just want to jump in and GPS, music, Radio or watch porn with the girl in the car..
Lol..I. Saying that just to get a chuckle from you know who...?
@jtrosky
@dgcruzing
How did you manage to disable the filesystem check after sleep?
I use tweo 128gb sticks on my PX5 MTCE device and they took about 30-40s to be mounted, because they're checked for errors each time.
This is very annoying - could you tell me how you disabled it (or any workaround)?
Thank you!