[Q] Second System Process (uses 35-50% of battery) - General Questions and Answers

Hi. I have small problem here.
Today out of curiosity I checked the battery usage. Usually (for me) it was that the screen took about 50%, and the rest of processes oscalated below 10-15%, where the most took System. Today however I noticed the second System process, that took 35-50%. Second System process behaves like the one that I had before, taking ~10%. When I tap on it, it shows me long list of subprocesses, so this is deffinetly the main Android System process. The second one(the one that I noticed today) has no subprocesses.
Is there any way I can pinpoint the exact service, or app that is responsible for that second System process, or I have to play with system restores, uninstalling apps one by one etc?
Before there was deffinetly no such process(and even if there was, it was at the bottom of the list, taking only couple %), because I would notice it.
I have SGS+ i9001, Android 2.3.6 Open Rom. From what I installed lately, some bigger things I remember are DropSync, new Beta Swype and WidgetSoid 2x.
Lucas

Shake 'n Rotate was the culprit. After uninstalling, it is how it was before. The screen takes ~50%, while all the rest takes below 10%, with system as being close to the top.
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Suddenly having extremely weird system issues/resets.

Hello there everyone. I've had my HTC Sensation since September and so far it has been a very enjoyable experience, with only one abnormal reset. However, in the past two days, some weird stuff has happened.
Every once in a while, I see the stock lockscreen flicker over my current screen (Even in an app). It is currently disabled by WidgetLocker as well.
The first day I had installed SweeterHome 2, StatusBar +, and also the application Faster Drawer. The first reset happened as I went to open Faster Drawer (Not for the first time, however). It then rebooted, but things seemed to work fine. Also, the app Profile Scheduler was no longer able to change the screen brightness when I clicked on a profile, just the other settings. I had to go into Android settings to do it manually. (There I found the slider down to 0 as I wanted it, and when I touched it, the screen brightness lowered to where it was supposed to be)
The second reset happened today and was even weirder. I was looking through my Minimal Reader widget when I was interrupted by the white and green HTC boot logo, and the phone took a few minutes to reset. When it came to, all of my widgets were gone, and replaced by "Tap to restore" squares (On both WidgetLocker and SweeterHome 2)
I really have no clue what is going on, though I am very disappointed by the reboots, especially for losing the widgets (Basically my entire homescreen was made of them, it will take a long time to restore). The only thing I messed with was the Accessibility applications; I had to check the one for StatusBar + and I clicked the one for WidgetSoid Notifications, but then disabled it. (Which by the way, the WidgetSoid notification toggles no longer work until I use the system toggle for data, then I can start using them)
Any help would be greatly appreciated. I am using a stock, unrooted HTC Sensation 4G on T-Mobile, running 2.3.4, and it had that firmware update by T-Mobile a few months ago.
SensationNation said:
Hello there everyone. I've had my HTC Sensation since September and so far it has been a very enjoyable experience, with only one abnormal reset. However, in the past two days, some weird stuff has happened.
Every once in a while, I see the stock lockscreen flicker over my current screen (Even in an app). It is currently disabled by WidgetLocker as well.
The first day I had installed SweeterHome 2, StatusBar +, and also the application Faster Drawer. The first reset happened as I went to open Faster Drawer (Not for the first time, however). It then rebooted, but things seemed to work fine. Also, the app Profile Scheduler was no longer able to change the screen brightness when I clicked on a profile, just the other settings. I had to go into Android settings to do it manually. (There I found the slider down to 0 as I wanted it, and when I touched it, the screen brightness lowered to where it was supposed to be)
The second reset happened today and was even weirder. I was looking through my Minimal Reader widget when I was interrupted by the white and green HTC boot logo, and the phone took a few minutes to reset. When it came to, all of my widgets were gone, and replaced by "Tap to restore" squares (On both WidgetLocker and SweeterHome 2)
I really have no clue what is going on, though I am very disappointed by the reboots, especially for losing the widgets (Basically my entire homescreen was made of them, it will take a long time to restore). The only thing I messed with was the Accessibility applications; I had to check the one for StatusBar + and I clicked the one for WidgetSoid Notifications, but then disabled it. (Which by the way, the WidgetSoid notification toggles no longer work until I use the system toggle for data, then I can start using them)
Any help would be greatly appreciated. I am using a stock, unrooted HTC Sensation 4G on T-Mobile, running 2.3.4, and it had that firmware update by T-Mobile a few months ago.
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the most ugly thing is i saw it with another sensation user in my famely to before i bought my phone. it got sended away by warrenty got back prob solved but more arised it began also after couple months. mine started doing it i rooted/s-off mine and started testing roms wich one feld like i wanted to use. because of quick changing i cound watch that after an rom from here the prob got solved so here are my suggestions:
1 send it and maybe get a worse phone back(telling from experience)
2 root/s-off test some roms and away goes problem
The issue just became worse. This time, without a reset, my WidgetLocker widgets were lost again, and replaced by the "Tap to restore" dialog. I was playing music at the time with the screen off (no other apps running), and it was not interrupted. When I went to unlock the phone, they were gone.
Any thoughts? This seems like a pretty serious issue to me. I'd like to stay stock since I don't have the money to replace the phone if something were to go wrong.
Try removin the apps and see if that helps,you seem to have alot on there that removes or modifies functionality

Stock ROM: crash / reboot every 9 days 9 hrs 30 min

My stock ROM crashes (or auto-reboots) every 9 days 9 hrs 30min like a clock.
It happened for at least third time in a row, or most likely it is going on like this all the time because I only noticed this odd behavior when I installed a little "uptime" app. After 3 times obviously that's not coincidence, something is causing my phone to crash or reboot every 9d 9hrs 30min.
Has anyone else notice or had same problem?
Stock rom, locked/unrooted, with stock apps and very few extra apps installed, after previous crash I removed almost everything I had installed in the past, I kept only AirDroid, ColReader, Google Drive, File Manager, Mobo player, Skype, SPB TV, TeamViewer - nothing else, yet it still crashed. I can't figure out is it ROM or any of the apps.
edit - perhaps I should have posted in ROM development... Moderator, please move it?
I wish I could help but I've never been able to stay on the stock ROM for that long.
But....no, you've posted in the right place. Put it in developement and it'll get moved to HERE.
There's a TMobile app on there that monitors the days until suggested reboot (7 days) and will then proceed to "warn" you consistently when you're over that period. It is possible that this app is clashing with one of your other apps or doing something in the phone - maybe using too much memory? /shrug
My phone does the exact same thing after a week but it doesn't reboot, it just randomly "soft-crashes" after I hit the back or home key while playing a game or backing out of dialer, apps, etc.
It's extremely annoying and happens whether I have few apps or my normal stock of apps; the only time it doesn't happen at all is after a factory reset (if I don't update anything).
The only thing I can do to stop it is to reboot the phone, as suggested on the 7th day...as soon as I see that notification, I reboot and so far so good.
Good Luck.

Testing Nexus 5 memory?

Is there a tool or way to test the Nexus 5 sdcard memory?
For the last six months I've had problems with my rooted Nexus 5 (stock kitkat) suddenly running very slow. After a lot of time trying to figure out why, I determined the following.
1. Slowdown happens when an app is writing something to the sdcard.
2. Is not a particular app. Can be any app.
3. When it happens all 4 CPU cores are running close to full blast.
4. Battery usage shows "android os" is 50% of the usage.
5. Task killers do not solve the problem.
6. Reboot restores things to normal for a while.
So I now wonder if there's something wrong with the built in memory but don't know how to test it.
Is there a way to test the Nexus 5 message? It is very frustrating to talk 2-3 pictures and then have the 4th one make everything grind to a stop. Right now, typing this is a pain because every letter takes its time to appear. I know rebooting will solve it but I should not have to.
sounds like you get a process(es) that get "stuck". also, when this happens, have you ever checked if your google stuff is syncing or " stuck"? sometimes badly written apps can cause this to happen as well.
simms22 said:
sounds like you get a process(es) that get "stuck". also, when this happens, have you ever checked if your google stuff is syncing or " stuck"? sometimes badly written apps can cause this to happen as well.
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I think you are right but I don't know how to find the faulty process. I "think" I first noticed it after the google camera update, but I used settings /apps/ to uninstall the camera update without improvement. I think camera showed the problem because it has to save the image to memory sdcard.
I don't sync and have sync turned off everywhere and on all apps. Sometimes Google play shows up as the prominent battery user even though I don't have it update apps automatically. But it is primarily android os that is the bad guy.
One of the things I had tried when the problem first started was to restore an earlier nandroid backup, but the problem continued, so I restored the most recent nandroid I had done before the earlier restore.
Recent screenshot.
I was on the browser and Tapatalk for a while. But not on play store.
Not frozen now when taking this screenshot.
You need to get gsam, or BBS or wakelock detector and see what one of those says. The stock battery screen is pretty much useless to find a battery problem.
But I'm guessing all your issues are tired to one bad app as said above.
Get a battery app I suggested, run a full charge down with it running.... And comb thru all of it and see if anything pops out.
kj2112 said:
You need to get gsam, or BBS or wakelock detector and see what one of those says. The stock battery screen is pretty much useless to find a battery problem.
But I'm guessing all your issues are tired to one bad app as said above.
Get a battery app I suggested, run a full charge down with it running.... And comb thru all of it and see if anything pops out.
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I already did that. I have gsam and wakelock detector installed but my knowledge of Android is very limited and they have not helped me so far except to confirm I have a problem. I wonder if there is a way to see the dates I installed various apps. That way I could uninstall in the order they were installed.
Here are various screenshots. The list of active processes goes down several pages.
My guess... It's an app that hadn't been updated since kit kat has been out, and it's spamming location services.
Just a guess.
Check in gsam for times waking device, held awake time and kernel wakelock. (You need gsam root companion from play store installed as well.). These are all found in gsam app screen by clicking the drop down at the top. See if anything looks bad on any of those.
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Oh, and obviously, whatever tick tick is, is killing your battery. If it accesses location.... that's my bet for the culprit.
Thank you all for the advice. Obviously I've tried various things. TickTick is a todo list app. Quite nice actually. Anyway I had suspected it might be a problem and have uninstalled it (several times) with no improvement.
Finally, I seem to be making some headway. Don't know which of these two did it (if the improvement lasts.....).
1. There were 3-4 apps I had avoided updating because I didn't like the updated versions (maps, Hangouts which I don't use, Firefox, etc). So I now gave up and clicked on "update all".
2. I disabled the module gravitybox and rebooted.
So far things have returned to normal. My CPU cores are back to low levels.
I'm keeping my fingers crossed. If things continue well after a while I will reactivate gravitybox. I'm holding my breath!
After a full 15 minutes of normal behavior (unbelievable!), I took my courage in hand, reactivated gravitybox. Used my usual apps without the previous freezing recurring (so far). If this continues - and it seems to - it might suggest you don't update GAPPS (I think it was Hangouts) only at your peril.
Such a difference having an uncrippled phone!
After a while the slowdowns returned. Any suggestions?

Samsung Interface Not Updating

All,
First time poster, frequent visitor of XDA Forums. I've come across an odd issue that I don't know how to solve and I'm hoping some of you smarter than me folks can get me squared away.
I have a Galaxy S8+ from AT&T running Android 7.0 and Samsung Experience 8.1.
Problem:
I've recently noticed a delay or completely non-updating interface on my phone. It updates on occasion, but I can't determine what triggers an update. For example, I will pick up my phone from the desk and when I press the power button it shows the accurate time. When I unlock the device, the sense flip clock I use on the main home screen shows an earlier time (could be 30 minutes... could be a few hours). I don't believe it's just the Sense app because I noticed this issue where I checked a facebook messenger app that came and and when I closed the app, it still showed I had 1 notification. I went back in thinking I had another new message, but I didn't. So it was still hanging on to the notification. It happened a couple times with a text message as well. Most importantly, my calendar doesn't alert me prior to an appointment either, even though it's showing in my calendar and an alert is active. If I save an event, and exit, I can normally see the event appear on the on widget immediately as well... but that hasn't been happening. I have to press the widget to open it and confirm it is there (which it always is). Eventually it refreshes and shows up. But that delay is likely the reason why I'm not getting my alerts.
All of this did seem to happen after a recent update Samsung/AT&T pushed out but I don't know for sure. I tried clearing the cache from the boot menu but it doesn't seem there is wide success with that.
And perhaps I'm just not a good enough user, but everything isn't all backed up in the cloud so doing the factory reset to me is always a fairly large task as I have many things to manually transfer out and then back in. Not sure if there are great tools that help with this on a stock phone.
BUMP
try disabling battery optimization for those apps.
It seems that you have several bugs and if they all start happening after you have installed the latest update, then expect a patch coming soon.
MINTED7 said:
try disabling battery optimization for those apps.
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I have actually done that. Found very limited success. I'm also finding very few results on this topic. Surely it's not just me though.
And I'm dreading the idea of a hard reset as I have many things on my phones, not all of which is sync'd to the cloud so it's a task to back things up appropriate. Specifically regarding "encrypted" apps like my password keeper app etc.
It would be great if there was a software application that allowed you to backup whatever is necessary to not lose data, then wipe the phone and instead of just simply restoring the full phone (which is likely to create the same problem one had before the hard reset), you could simply dump back in app data as needed. It would also help diagnose if the problem lies in a specific app's data.
High level overview of issues...
I have the Ring Doorbell app. I get notifications after "live". Could be 5 minutes, could be 1 hour... or possibly not at all. I have the app setup on my wife's iPhone and she gets them immediately. If I restart the phone, I will get notified right away (it's like it runs the app again and then I get the notification). Keep in mind, this is AFTER i disabled the battery optimization feature for the Ring app.
I also notice it occasionally with texting. I won't have any text notification in the notification panel, nor will my messaging icon have a little red circle indicating a message is there. But if I open the app, a specification conversation will have a red circle indicating a new text is unread.
All of this is leading me to believe the Samsung UI itself is not updating and therefore notifications that actually have arrived (from whatever app), are not displaying because of the UI and not because of their own delay.
Because of this concern I have turned off battery optimization for "System UI", "Themes", and "TouchWiz Home". I have not seen any change however.
[Solved]
I was able to determine by various other threads around the web (thought for sure I'd find it here, but I didn't) that the culprit might be the Google app. Supposedly it was fixed in some prior release, but it's not on my Galaxy S8+ w/ AT&T.
Once I disabled the Google app all the odd issues with notifications and clock interfaces and app icons not updating went away. The downside to disabling it is that I lose the Google Assistant functionality which stinks but otherwise there is no impact to using the phone. I re-enabled it at a later date and it worked fine for a few days and then started acting up again. Once I disabled it, the problems all disappeared. Clearly Google app is to blame.

Messed up Android 11 v3.0 upgrade last night on AT&T

Last night, my Note 20 Ultra got the Android 11 v3 upgrade, and it messed up so many things I can't believe anybody would call that an "upgrade".
First, the option to hide the front camera hole in Settings / Full screen apps is GONE, and now that hole is not only back, but since there is no more bevel, it's extremely difficult again to swipe down on an Otterbox case because of the slightly protruding edge protecting the screen.
Second, the alarm sounds have been changed. Having a couple dozen alarms active makes it a hassle to change everything again.
Third, the photo editing software now has added shadow buttons shifting the saturation button farther to the right out of the default space, therefore requiring scrolling. I believe this can be customized, but why not add these 2 new lesser used options to the right from the get going ?
Fourth, looking at pictures in the gallery now shows a thumbnail scroll at the bottom which interferes with basic button functions, especially video playing control.
I've only noticed a few other minor changes today, like changes in the location of various options, but these are the most irritating so far.
I hope the next upgrade will at least bring back the option to hide the camera hole again for those who need it.
Nothing like an AT&T update... which is why I never let updates run.
If you like the OS and it's fast/stable, leave it be.
A reload is probably needed, at the least clear the system cache.
Major firmware upgrades are going to require a lot of time and learning even if they're good OS's. Just the nature of the beast.
blackhawk said:
Nothing like an AT&T update... which is why I never let updates run.
If you like the OS and it's fast/stable, leave it be.
A reload is probably needed, at the least clear the system cache.
Major firmware upgrades are going to require a lot of time and learning even if they're good OS's. Just the nature of the beast.
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I never had a problem before, and I cleared the system cache just in case, but the phone is working fine.
I am fine learning new features and virtually all OS changes, but I don't see how removing the option to disable full screen can be an improvement.
Is there any way to restore the OS to a previous version without wiping out data and apps ? It's very difficult to swipe down 20 times a day now that the fullscreen can't be disabled.
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I never had a problem before, and I cleared the system cache just in case, but the phone is working fine.
I am fine learning new features and virtually all OS changes, but I don't see how removing the option to disable full screen can be an improvement.
Is there any way to restore the OS to a previous version without wiping out data and apps ? It's very difficult to swipe down 20 times a day now that the fullscreen can't be disabled.
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Never update near the end of the phone's life cycle. That when the worst things tend to happen and some are deliberately done... thanks AT&T Feel the wuv...
If you want to flash back you'll need to reload.
A reload is a good idea even if you don't and I rarely advocate reloading.
I use my SD card as the data drive. Nothing critical is on the OS drive. I back all my user apps and system app updates with ApkExport. I can fully reload with little or internet and no PC in about 2 hrs. At that point it's about 95% complete.
Starting experimenting with Smart Switch backup; the above timeframe is without Smart Switch restoring settings (time will tell). Make frequent backups to it.
Take advantage of the tools you have available and be ready to reload at any time. Forced reloads are rare but can happen at any time.
Being prepared makes them a lot less time consuming, painful and eliminates most data loss.
After spending over a year getting to know Pie and how to optimize this 10+ variant, I refuse to "upgrade" this fast, stable and secure* platform that I like. It be a waste of time and in my opinion Q is inferior to Pie.
You on the other hand started on Q so up is the only way to go; that may be a better route for you.
You probably will find solutions for your current issues but it's a time consuming process.
Just the nature of the beast.
Play with it... Android's are fun to play with
*as secure as you make it or not.
Goggle is one fat slob of a big sister... don't trust her. AT&T is even worse.

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