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[Q]NTFS formatted microsd

i know the usb ports on the dock supprt ntfs read/write but has anyone tried ntfs formatted microsd? i wont be able to check mine til i get home. but i would't see why it can't. it would be nice to store an 8 GB video file on the sdcard. even if the tf wouldn't be able to play it
i'm pretty sue clockwork won't get along with ntfs though.

where did you hear the dock supported NTFS? to my understanding linux can't read that so nothing on the device should be able to support NTFS.

neok44 said:
where did you hear the dock supported NTFS? to my understanding linux can't read that so nothing on the device should be able to support NTFS.
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Actually linux reads (and write) NTFS quite fine.
For NTFS support linux uses NTFS-3g (free) or Tuxera (commercial). The questions is - did Asus add NTFS drivers? Some users of Transformer say it did and that it works.

Magnesus said:
Actually linux reads (and write) NTFS quite fine.
For NTFS support linux uses NTFS-3g (free) or Tuxera (commercial). The questions is - did Asus add NTFS drivers? Some users of Transformer say it did and that it works.
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interesting. I just figured that since all the android devices have never supported NTFS, at least the ones i've owned.
if i had a blank SD card i'd try it for you, but all mine have way to much data on it to try.
If at least the USB ports work thats nice cause i can then move my HD movies onto a 32GB flash drive. instead of trying to somehow get them under 4GB.

Honeycomb does not have native NTFS support built into the kernel but there is a custom ROM available that has this feature quoted "The Transformer's first custom kernel with CIFS/TUN/NTFS compiled in"
See: "[ROM] PRIME! v1.2 | Fast | Rooted | Deodexed" in the dev section of this forum
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1052380
I have no idea if this would help with the NTFS microSD access you asked about.

I just formatted to NTFS on a class 10 wintec 16gb microsd. Doesn't work. I'm on stock honeycomb.
Back to fat32 i go!

3DSammy said:
Honeycomb does not have native NTFS support built into the kernel but there is a custom ROM available that has this feature quoted "The Transformer's first custom kernel with CIFS/TUN/NTFS compiled in"
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Maybe the people that reported NTFS working used this kernel. I didn't pay attention to what they were writing much because am not using NTFS. But I was almost sure they were talking about a Transformer with stock firmware. Well aparently I was wrong, sorry for spreading misinformation.

ntfs formatted western digital passport does work very well on the usb port though....strange that microsd doesn't

At the time of my initial test i was using paul's rom from modaco. There wasn't any mention of ntfs support in the notes. Eifher i missed the note or he corgot to include the change.
Fyi archos tabets support ntfs read.

From what I read the NTFS support was add in the v1.2 release of that PRIME custom ROM. Maybe you were using an earlier version. The last edit of that forum post was "6th May 2011 at 12:55 AM" which I assume was when the new PRIME ROM v1.2 version was released.

i didn't try th prime rom til yesterday.i was on modaco while doingthe exthd test.
did a noob thing hereand posted efore searching .someon else asked the question and said the stock tf bas ntfs support otb according to the manual. i havent pulled mine out yet to verify.

Bump, trying to figure out if prime 1.3 will support NTFS SDCARD.

I am running Stock TF101 with 3.1 Android and the dock supports NTFS USB Media and Sd-Card NTFS Media very well.
So NTFS with any media that connects to the dock works, at least all i could get hold of these included some USB-Sticks from 512 MB to 8 GB and USB 3.0 2.5" 1TB HDD. Also SD-Cards and my microSD in an SD Adapter works.
But here comes the strange part if i remove the microSD out of the Adapter and put it into the tablet it won't work. Yes the same card that worked 10 seconds before in the dock.

For anyone that finds this thread in the future: The MicroSD card is expected to be FAT formatted and therefore, will not automatically mount if it is NTFS. But, since NTFS is supported on the tablet, you can manually mount the MicroSD and it will work fine when formatted as NTFS. You'll need root and someway to run the below commands.
Mount:
Code:
mkdir /data/Removable/MicroSD
mount /dev/block/vold/179\:9 /data/Removable/MicroSD

rtadams89 said:
For anyone that finds this thread in the future: The MicroSD card is expected to be FAT formatted and therefore, will not automatically mount if it is NTFS. But, since NTFS is supported on the tablet, you can manually mount the MicroSD and it will work fine when formatted as NTFS. You'll need root and someway to run the below commands.
Mount:
Code:
mkdir /data/Removable/MicroSD
mount /dev/block/vold/179\:9 /data/Removable/MicroSD
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I've tried entering the script in Terminal Emulator, but get
"Usage: mount [-r] [-w].... etc.."
This means there's something wrong with the code?

Found this thread through google search. I have a 32gb patriot class 10 micro sd card - just formatted to ntfs and android 3.2 reads it natively. Not yet rooted either.

I too, am on a stock Android 3.2 with a NTFS formated 32 GB class 10 microSDHC. My Asus Transformer tablet works fine, and can read files off of the memory card. I haven't tried the dock's memory card reading slot, but I presume it'll just work the same.

hyperxi said:
I've tried entering the script in Terminal Emulator, but get
"Usage: mount [-r] [-w].... etc.."
This means there's something wrong with the code?
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You should be able to navigate into the actual directory:
/dev/block/vold/179 ...
If not, it might be elsewhere, slightly different location, like
/dev/block/vold/<another number?>
or
/dev/block/<another directory>/179
etc.
Once you find the actual flash directory it should be easy to mount to a known location. I am not rooted so I can not look on mine for differences.
What this implies... it might require a script or configuration to auto mount in any configuration. On LINUX this is handled a bunch of different ways depending on the kernel version, and likely similar on Android OS.
Good luck.

hoang51 said:
I too, am on a stock Android 3.2 with a NTFS formated 32 GB class 10 microSDHC. My Asus Transformer tablet works fine, and can read files off of the memory card. I haven't tried the dock's memory card reading slot, but I presume it'll just work the same.
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Confirmed! Same here I have 16GB ADATA class 10 microSDHC, NTFS formated. Works on my tablet not root just stock 3.2.

Circumventing the FAT32 4gb file limitation

I love everything about Android, other than the fact that I can't watch any of my blu ray rips because they are over 4gb. I can format my ext SD into NTFS or eXFat but then the transformer wont see the card when I put it in. Same goes with it recognizing my external hard drive.
I have tried formatting the drive into some Mac format because I read it was a work around, but it wasn't detected when formatted as a mac drive. Is there a trick that I don't know about?
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i have not tried, but you could possibly format the card in a linux file format (ext3, ext4, etc) and then use a windows app that will allow you to read the linux file format.
or just split your larger files.

xformulax said:
i have not tried, but you could possibly format the card in a linux file format (ext3, ext4, etc) and then use a windows app that will allow you to read the linux file format.
or just split your larger files.
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I am trying to get honeycomb to read and play the movies though. Not another comp running windows.
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i believe some of the kernels on the dev section supports ntfs if you want to go that route...
other than that, you'd have to wait for ASUS to implemente NTFS themselves (i believe they just got a license from a 3rd party co. to use their NTFS driver, for th purpose of implementing it into their android devices)
I don't need a signature.

seh6183 said:
I am trying to get honeycomb to read and play the movies though. Not another comp running windows.
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right, and honeycomb is *nix at its core and should be able to read and play the files on a linux formatted memory card... the challenge is getting windows to read that same card to load it, but that can be done with some opensource software.

xformulax said:
right, and honeycomb is *nix at its core and should be able to read and play the files on a linux formatted memory card... the challenge is getting windows to read that same card to load it, but that can be done with some opensource software.
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Ah I see! Can anyone comment on this that has tried it before I go through the agony and possible waste of time?
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Not much more to comment on, there are linux (ext3) filesystem drivers you can install on windows that should let you be able to load the SD card from within windows. As Android has *nix underneath it all, it should recognize the ext3 card no problem, and ext3 doesn't have the same 4GB limitation.

it does support ntfs for external hard drives.

seh6183 said:
I love everything about Android, other than the fact that I can't watch any of my blu ray rips because they are over 4gb. I can format my ext SD into NTFS or eXFat but then the transformer wont see the card when I put it in. Same goes with it recognizing my external hard drive.
I have tried formatting the drive into some Mac format because I read it was a work around, but it wasn't detected when formatted as a mac drive. Is there a trick that I don't know about?
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In another thread i heard NTFS works, but i personally couldnt get it to work with my MicroSD cards
you might want to check out this thread also
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1069360
My best guess is to root and install a kernel that supports NTFS
Or format to ext3 or ext4 and give that a try
I use this to access ext3 and ext 4 partitions on my Windows 7 machine
http://www.ext2fsd.com/
Works pretty well

i have a USB flash drive with NTFS. tried harry potter 720p mkv at 6.7GB and though it did see and load the file, it lagged to the point where it was unwatchable. This was on 3.01 and 3.1

I've played a 6 GB mkv off of my 320GB NTFS formatted hard drive, so shouldnt be an issue off of a card.
I'l try it later with one of my 8gb cards.

Anonnie said:
I've played a 6 GB mkv off of my 320GB NTFS formatted hard drive, so shouldnt be an issue off of a card.
I'l try it later with one of my 8gb cards.
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well NTFS support from a usb HDD is different from having NTFS support on the internal card reader... could also depend if NTFS is built into your kernel.

my TF works with a 8gb usb pendrive and my 750gb and 3tb external usb drive formated with windows 7 and plays dvd under 4gb
but did locked up when i opened a folder with a 9gb bluray file in it

Hmm I hope the file system for the TF isn't fat32, because like the previous poster said it would allow me to open my blu ray rips. Or would it? If the 6gb movie was located on another drive I don't see why it wouldn't play straight off the secondary drive.
I also can confirm that ntfs works just fine with external hard drives and usb thumb drives. Just not external SD cards.
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seh6183 said:
Hmm I hope the file system for the TF isn't fat32, because like the previous poster said it would allow me to open my blu ray rips. Or would it? If the 6gb movie was located on another drive I don't see why it wouldn't play straight off the secondary drive.
I also can confirm that ntfs works just fine with external hard drives and usb thumb drives. Just not external SD cards.
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the file system for the TF isn't fat32.... but it formats the uSD to fat32 for compatibility between the tablet and windows.
ntfs support for uSD and for external HDD are 2 different things.

NTFS and HFS+ filesystem support
I have recently tried this:
Paragon NTFS & HFS+
(can't post link as I am a noob :| so google it up or find it in the App Store)
It is free and it seems to work well with both Win (NTFS) and Mac (HFS+) disks. As far as I know it looks like an Android implementation of FUSE.

NTFS format hard drive for stock rom?

What size ntfs do I need to format the hard drive in so the stock rom will read it? I'm using revolver so I don't know. Just confirmed 2 people not being able to read their hard drive because they're on stock. I'll have to reformat.

don't format as NTFS because Android won't read/write to it. Use vFAT/FAT32 - it may be worth giving ExFAT a go, but it probably won't work.

I have a 750 GB USB hard drive formatted as NTFS, and the TF can read and write
it with no problems when connected to a USB port on the keyboard dock or on the
tablet, using the Asus USB adapter.
I'm rooted, but using the stock ROMs on HC 3.2.1.

Works here, too - 500 GB Transcend External HDD formatted as NTFS.
Stock 3.2.1, no root.

davebugyi said:
Works here, too - 500 GB Transcend External HDD formatted as NTFS.
Stock 3.2.1, no root.
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You sure? NTFS what allocation size? I already got 2 people telling me the drive wouldn't work on their stock. When I plug it into mine, it works instantly.
Anyway, I'm formatting it in fat32 and sending it back to them.
Heck, I'll nvflash back to stock non-rooted to test these out myself.

goodintentions said:
You sure? NTFS what allocation size? I already got 2 people telling me the drive wouldn't work on their stock. When I plug it into mine, it works instantly.
Anyway, I'm formatting it in fat32 and sending it back to them.
Heck, I'll nvflash back to stock non-rooted to test these out myself.
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Of course I'm sure, I have 2 6GB files on them, which cannot be achieved in FAT32. Also the drive works on my friends Iconia A500. And the last time when I formatted a HDD into FAT32 was when I was using Windows ME
BTW, Allocation size 4096 Bytes.

I move my NTFS-formatted USB drive between my Windows XP PC and the Transformer (rooted/stock ROM/HC 3.2.1) all the time.

Need NTFS module
Hi
I have rooted TF(Revolver+Clemsyn). NTFS do work fine though I had to copy over NTFS.ko manually.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=18023335#post18023335

Well. Colour me both surprised and impressed then!

I just got a confirmation from someone. His stock rom fully updated can only read fat32.
How come some of you with stock can read ntfs? I don't get it.

Latest 3.2.1 Stock WW - and it was never a problem. My External HDD is a one plug USB drive tho, so no need for extra power source. Looks like you're screwed

I downloaded an app called Drive Mount and that enabled NTFS for me, it might work natively now but I haven't uninstalled to find out so try that our - 'Drive Mount' on the Android market.
EDIT: I should specify that I can use both AC powered external hard drives and USB powered hard drives on my TF.

[Q] Can't Android 4.0 manage two partitions on SD card?

Hi, I am moving from WinMo to Android and would like to have an offline Wikipedia, that weights 10GB. This could be handled by EXT2.
The SD card is FAT32 formatted and I would like to continue being able to access it via USB as well. So I have reduced the FAT32 partition and added a 11GB EXT2 partition. Since this change Android does not recognize anything on my SD card.
Can't Android 4.0 manage two partitions on a SD card?

rin67630 said:
Hi, I am moving from WinMo to Android and would like to have an offline Wikipedia, that weights 10GB. This could be handled by EXT2.
The SD card is FAT32 formatted and I would like to continue being able to access it via USB as well. So I have reduced the FAT32 partition and added a 11GB EXT2 partition. Since this change Android does not recognize anything on my SD card.
Can't Android 4.0 manage two partitions on a SD card?
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Hi,
I am fairly sure that you do not need an EXT2 partition on Android.
Why not just format the whole sd card to a single FAT 32 partition.
I am sure it will work.

I gave the explanation: Try to store a 10GB file on Fat32 !

rin67630 said:
I gave the explanation: Try to store a 10GB file on Fat32 !
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Hi,
Sorry,my bad.
I was just thinking of 10GB OF information,not a 10GB file.
The only thing I can think of,is exfat.
But I do not know if that works on Sensation ,yet.

malybru said:
Hi,
Sorry,my bad.
I was just thinking of 10GB OF information,not a 10GB file.
The only thing I can think of,is exfat.
But I do not know if that works on Sensation ,yet.
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I tried exFAT as well: is not recognized on a Sensation.
I have just looked on anothe Android: It really looks like Andoird can't cope with partitioned SD cards. With partitioned cards it just don't recognize anything, not even the first one.

rin67630 said:
I tried exFAT as well: is not recognized on a Sensation.
I have just looked on anothe Android: It really looks like Andoird can't cope with partitioned SD cards. With partitioned cards it just don't recognize anything, not even the first one.
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Hi,
It seems that it is not Android that cannot cope with exfat.
Rather, it is the version.
4.2.2 is able to read it on my S4.
It may be worth your while asking devs of the 4.2.2 ROMS on the Sensation when their ROMS will be able to read exfat cards.

malybru said:
Hi,
It seems that it is not Android that cannot cope with exfat.
Rather, it is the version.
4.2.2 is able to read it on my S4.
It may be worth your while asking devs of the 4.2.2 ROMS on the Sensation when their ROMS will be able to read exfat cards.
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I have read that it depends on the device vendor, since fees need to be paid to M$.
Currently i am still with a stock ROM, maybe a cooked on could do?

rin67630 said:
I have read that it depends on the device vendor, since fees need to be paid to M$.
Currently i am still with a stock ROM, maybe a cooked on could do?
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Hi,
That is what I was suggesting.
There are quite a few ROMS for 4.2.2 on the Sensation.
Read through the first posts to see if it mentioned or not.
And maybe even post in the thread to see if it is available,or if it is being planned.
Correct me if I am wrong,but is this not implemented on the kernel level?
Maybe talking to some kernel devs as well.

Marshmallow SD Card Issues

Hey guys,
I was hoping someone with some experience with Android M could help. After installing the OTA update and upgrading to Marshmallow, it seems that the OS makes you format microSD cards as either portable or internal storage. The issue that I'm running into is that after formatting the memory card as portable storage, the system formats it as Fat32 so I can no longer transfer large MKV files to play in Kodi. Prior to installing the 6.0 OTA, I had no issues transferring the files to my microSD card.
As a workaround, I tried using my USB OTG drive to play the videos but I can't get Kodi to recognize the drive as a source for my video files. Does anyone have any suggestions on how to get around these new memory card complications that Android 6.0 has introduced?
I would greatly appreciate some help on this as this was one of the main reasons I purchased this tablet so that I could use it as a temporary HTPC when I'm traveling. Thanks in advance!

Have you tried removing the SD CARD and formatting on a PC?

Seems that Marshmallow's not all it's cracked up to be.

Don't have marshmallow, but have you tried reformatting the SD card on your PC using exFat or NTFS instead?
I don't know if marshmallow will prompt you to reformat again when you put the card back in the Shield though...
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You didn't mention what size of card, but if it is larger than 32gigs you will need to put the sd card in a computer and format as NTFS. Android doesn't support exfat, only fat32 and NTFS. Try that and let us know what happens!

hbar98 said:
You didn't mention what size of card, but if it is larger than 32gigs you will need to put the sd card in a computer and format as NTFS. Android doesn't support exfat, only fat32 and NTFS. Try that and let us know what happens!
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Funny...running a 64GB SDCard formatted exFat right now on my original ST8 (Lollipop)...and also a 16GB SDCard formatted exFat on my old Samsung S4 (also Lollipop).
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Try to restart tablet? The best is using es Explorer to transfer files. Fat32 do not accepted file over 4gb. Try format back exfat
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An Droid said:
Funny...running a 64GB SDCard formatted exFat right now on my original ST8 (Lollipop)...and also a 16GB SDCard formatted exFat on my old Samsung S4 (also Lollipop).
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(sarcasm)
Oh, wow! Your personal experience with two different phones made by two different manufacturers running an old system that was never designed for what Marshmallow does obviously contradicts and demolishes what I said.
(/sarcasm)
ExFat support can be added to android kernels, if the manufacturer decides to do so. Samsung, a maker of sd cards ranging from 4gigs to 200+gigs, has an interest in making sure that their devices work with their cards that also work in a variety of consumer computers. ExFat support can also be added in customer kernels, should the maintainer decided to do so (in fact, many kernels that I see for modern devices that also support an external sd cards proudly show that they support ExFat).
Android AOSP, without any mods or other built in support, does not support ExFat well, if at all. It may or may not work. The fact that nVidia has written that any cards over 32gig must be formatted to NTFS tells me that they have not chosen to build in ExFat support into their devices. Should someone desire to flash a different rom or custom kernel that support ExFat, that is their business. But since the OP didn't list what size of card they used, or if they were using any mods or a different kernel, I had to go with the most basic support.

hbar98 said:
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Oh, wow! Your personal experience with two different phones made by two different manufacturers running an old system that was never designed for what Marshmallow does obviously contradicts and demolishes what I said.
(/sarcasm)
Android AOSP, without any mods or other built in support, does not support ExFat well, if at all. It may or may not work. The fact that nVidia has written that any cards over 32gig must be formatted to NTFS tells me that they have not chosen to build in ExFat support into their devices. Should someone desire to flash a different rom or custom kernel that support ExFat, that is their business. But since the OP didn't list what size of card they used, or if they were using any mods or a different kernel, I had to go with the most basic support.
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ST8 = Shield Tablet 8" (original vs. K1 model).
Point is, this goes against your open ended and incorrect "Android doesn't support exfat, only fat32 and NTFS" statement.
Supporting exFAT in Android makes sense as it's the recommended file system by the SDCard association for SDCards larger than 32GB.
NTFS is in the same boat - it's also not officially supported by all Android implementations.
Marshmallow formats SDCards to Ext4 (and encrypts) when configured as internal storage. When configured as portable both exFAT and NTFS (and Fat16/32) may all be an option - OP can try both if using the portable option.
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Similar problem with lg g2 on marshmallow
Hi,
Having a related problem with kodi on my phone.
On lollipop, kodi found my 16gb Fat32 otg USB drive as a source, but won't show up now I'm on marshmallow. I can still play video through mx player, fx explorer media viewer, and os video player. I searched around storage and mount folders, but can find no access to the external drive browsing the file system unless I'm using the native file browser.

Marshmallow detects partition very different with Lollipop. on Marshmallow your device can use sdcard with 128 GB like internal
its mean sdcard needed change partition format to another type (not FAT, NTFS or exFAT) the matter here then you plug that sdcard to windows, windows wont detect your sdcard but you can see it through another program like MiniTool Partition Wizard.
The problem with marshmallow and this partition used to drop out connect with your sdcard. only one way to fix it reboot your device. also, sometime they cant turn wifi on then you just needed to reboot again to let your device working normally.
We needed to wait for a new patch.