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I've been in the Development forum and the threads are sometimes over 400 pages. I was wanting to see a more concise thread on what you're using. Specifically the ROM, the kernel, the radio, etc. If you're having any issues please add them and let me know how the ROM is working for you. I'm interested in a few different ROMs, but chosing which kernel and radio to get them to work properly is a pain to find in the 200-400 page threads.
Most of us rep our current ROM and kernel in our sigs. I personally tried to link the radio too, but the URL was too long.
As to the length of threads/ forums, you can refine your search to the current forum or thread you are on right above the thread/ post list at the right of the frame.
They tried doing this a few months back, doing reviews about roms and known bugs and such. It didn't get very far. While its a good idea, the very nature of roms is "change" so while a review might be valid and have the correct bugs, it could be invalid next week, due to update made to the rom. The best way to evaluate a rom your considering choosing, is reading the change log, and the last ten or more pages of the roms thread, that should give you an idea if any one is having any major bugs.
ROMs are based personally. Try them all then pick.
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Maybe if the Roms stated "Final Version" on them you could pull this off. But None do.
After a lot of unhelpful replies, I'll respond to the question the person actually asked.
I'm using Lees Rom and Kernal and LOVE it. I settle on it after a friend told me it was his favorite and after trying about 4 other ROMs with crappy results.
It is loaded with features and it also has a patch to use Sense 3.0. I personally like Sense more than any custom attempts I have seen and 3.0 is worlds better than 2.x
I still have the stock radio because I can't seem to get it to update. I have been trying by renaming the radio img zip to P98img.zip (or whatever its called) and updating through the bootloader on the phone. But it always gives me an error parsing the package.
Only thing that worries me is that for some reason (the last few times I tried) I couldn't get into bootloader/recovery by holding volume- while booting. So if the phone ever gets locked up, I'm not sure how to recover. You can get into either through the custom power down menu though which is very cool.
weregoingunion said:
After a lot of unhelpful replies, I'll respond to the question the person actually asked.
I'm using Lees Rom and Kernal and LOVE it. I settle on it after a friend told me it was his favorite and after trying about 4 other ROMs with crappy results.
It is loaded with features and it also has a patch to use Sense 3.0. I personally like Sense more than any custom attempts I have seen and 3.0 is worlds better than 2.x
I still have the stock radio because I can't seem to get it to update. I have been trying by renaming the radio img zip to P98img.zip (or whatever its called) and updating through the bootloader on the phone. But it always gives me an error parsing the package.
Only thing that worries me is that for some reason (the last few times I tried) I couldn't get into bootloader/recovery by holding volume- while booting. So if the phone ever gets locked up, I'm not sure how to recover. You can get into either through the custom power down menu though which is very cool.
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And I'm sure you'll be back to update your post once those issues in Lee's ROM are resolved, or you figure out it wasn't the ROM fault, after all, or if you decide you don't like sense anymore, right?
That's what those "unhelpful" posts were trying to get across.
These things change. ROMs get fixed.
Sometimes users of ROMs pull their heads out of their ass' and figure out their problems were actually of their own creation, after they blamed the ROM.
So when a new user comes around a month from now, finds a best ROM post that has obsolete information, that new user will form an unfair opinion of what might now be (or always was) a great ROM.
Now *that's* unhelpful.
weregoingunion said:
Only thing that worries me is that for some reason (the last few times I tried) I couldn't get into bootloader/recovery by holding volume- while booting. So if the phone ever gets locked up, I'm not sure how to recover. You can get into either through the custom power down menu though which is very cool.
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be sure you have Fastboot turned off in Applications.
Another thing you can do is download Quickboot from the market...then boot into bootloader from there. Quickboot>bootloader
weregoingunion said:
After a lot of unhelpful replies, I'll respond to the question the person actually asked..
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Really? You call me unhelpfull for being honest yet you post and don't even post anything helpful. infact you noobed the whole post. You can't even flash a radio...Or figure out how to boot into recovery....Your Rom information is valueless. You should jump off your pedistal before you fall....Or someone pushes you....
tweaked said:
Really? You call me unhelpfull for being honest yet you post and don't even post anything helpful. infact you noobed the whole post. You can't even flash a radio...Or figure out how to boot into recovery....Your Rom information is valueless. You should jump off your pedistal before you fall....Or someone pushes you....
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I think it was that "alot of unhelpful replies" part that did it for me.
I'm not looking to find out what Rom is best, but to see what combinations of roms, kernels, and radios you guys are using. It's almost impossible to find an exact combo and even harder to dig thru the threads to see what people are using.
I browse a lot of threads, have only commented a few times. Been browsing for a couple years when I flashed different WinMo 6.5 roms on my ATT Fuze, as well as loading and running Android 2.1 and 2.2 from the SD card on the same phone. I will +1 some of the advice heard here so far:
Start by looking at threads where the ROM's have been updated recently (within the ten days for me). Check the change log to see if it's new features, upgrades, or bug fixes in the current updates. Or if it's a mix of it all, but look for things that interest you. Then, as stated earlier in this thread, check the last ten pages, at least the ones since the current update became available.
Also, it helps me to watch who is responding on the threads. Many users will became recognizable to you by name and avatar, and watch their post counts too. Lastly, check their signatures, most of the active senior members keep it updated with the information you are looking for. If they put it in the sig, it's because they are happy with what works and want to share it. Until the next thing better comes along.
PS, yes, I don't post a lot and yes I'm still on stock. Running dual OS's on my fuze was easy, don't feel comfortable yet pulling the trigger on my Inspire, but I'm off for the summer soon, more time to spend on it.
louslugger15 said:
I'm not looking to find out what Rom is best, but to see what combinations of roms, kernels, and radios you guys are using. It's almost impossible to find an exact combo and even harder to dig thru the threads to see what people are using.
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I know you don't want to look through the threads, but that is kind of the requirement. Every rom, kernel, and radio is going to work differently on every phone. It's like buying to exact same lap tops with the same exact os and programs, and with out doing any thing, the next day one of them crashes.
To be honest, and as helpful as I can, the only way is read the last few posts in the thread, to see if there is any major bugs. Then flash the rom, kernel, and or radio and test them out on your phone.
louslugger15 said:
I'm not looking to find out what Rom is best, but to see what combinations of roms, kernels, and radios you guys are using. It's almost impossible to find an exact combo and even harder to dig thru the threads to see what people are using.
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That's the the thing, though. There'll be at least one person running every possible combo out there.
One will say it's da bomb, another will say it froze his phone.
mudknot2005 said:
I know you don't want to look through the threads, but that is kind of the requirement. Every rom, kernel, and radio is going to work differently on every phone. It's like buying to exact same lap tops with the same exact os and programs, and with out doing any thing, the next day one of them crashes.
To be honest, and as helpful as I can, the only way is read the last few posts in the thread, to see if there is any major bugs. Then flash the rom, kernel, and or radio and test them out on your phone.
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+1 and ditto
What is the main point/purpose/question of starting this thread?
You say you don't want to find the "best" rom (granted your thread title does have the word ROM in it).....so you are trying to find the best combo correct? (which still depends on what you are trying to get out of the combo)
........And like its been said.....really just look at the sigs and the more "serious" devotees will have their ROM and more info all written in the sig (which is a two-fold thing 1. it promotes the work 2. for these type of questions (to give a sort-of consensus)
But that doesn't necessarily mean it will solve whatever you are trying to get out of this thread.......
because everything changes so rapidly, you have to keep up......or basically find the "best" parts that you won't/don't change much (like radios, etc.) and find the one you like.......then focus on the changeables like Rom, etc. because your view on roms change more frequently than the others.
All these types of topics are very subjective....and takes reading to find a "decent" answer to your question.....in the end your surrounded by a great community (XDA)...but ultimately your alone
If you get what im saying...
You could do the popularity thing......see whats in the sigs, and do that
If it works good for you.....don't worry about whats "best/better".......because you won't know whats better, you will just know what is working good for YOU (which is all that matters)
Lastly....to "answer your question".....lol......read my sig :-D
Hi everyone, i'm glad to see we are on official gingerbread now.
I wanted to know if anyone will be working on a cwm package (or something) to make previous GB roms have the wifi strength of froyo?
-I want to emphasize that i'm not asking for an eta. More so if this is possible and something that I just need to wait to be released.
-I'm running icbinb ki3 tweaked exactly how i like it with battery how i like it. I'd rather not flash stock 2.3.6 unless that's the only way to improve my wifi. If I only have to wait for a package that will improve it on ki3, then id rather do that.
So thanks for reading, dont flame if you can help it.
Mizun0h said:
Hi everyone, i'm glad to see we are on official gingerbread now.
I wanted to know if anyone will be working on a cwm package (or something) to make previous GB roms have the wifi strength of froyo?
-I want to emphasize that i'm not asking for an eta. More so if this is possible and something that I just need to wait to be released.
-I'm running icbinb ki3 tweaked exactly how i like it with battery how i like it. I'd rather not flash stock 2.3.6 unless that's the only way to improve my wifi. If I only have to wait for a package that will improve it on ki3, then id rather do that.
So thanks for reading, dont flame if you can help it.
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The short answer from me is that I don't know. I wish I had more insight into what changed between Froyo & GB to cause the wifi to weaken. Could be as simple as drivers, could be that's how they're saving power, etc. I know flashing the KJ6 modem file caused people to have a big of an improvement with wifi though not the same level of performance with Froyo. I also read a lot of people had issues sending big SMS messages with KJ6, so that might be something to be wary about.
Anyway, you could flash the KJ6 modem file to see if it helps. As for something to get it back on par with Froyo, I'll have to leave that to the experts around here.
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The short answer from me is that I don't know. I wish I had more insight into what changed between Froyo & GB to cause the wifi to weaken. Could be as simple as drivers, could be that's how they're saving power, etc. I know flashing the KJ6 modem file caused people to have a big of an improvement with wifi though not the same level of performance with Froyo. I also read a lot of people had issues sending big SMS messages with KJ6, so that might be something to be wary about.
Anyway, you could flash the KJ6 modem file to see if it helps. As for something to get it back on par with Froyo, I'll have to leave that to the experts around here.
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Yea i understand and get that to some degree. thanks for the reply.
Was wifi confirmed to be as strong as froyo on the stock gb?
Mizun0h said:
Yea i understand and get that to some degree. thanks for the reply.
Was wifi confirmed to be as strong as froyo on the stock gb?
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It's not. It's stronger on Froyo.
stephen_w said:
The short answer from me is that I don't know. I wish I had more insight into what changed between Froyo & GB to cause the wifi to weaken. Could be as simple as drivers, could be that's how they're saving power, etc. I know flashing the KJ6 modem file caused people to have a big of an improvement with wifi though not the same level of performance with Froyo. I also read a lot of people had issues sending big SMS messages with KJ6, so that might be something to be wary about.
Anyway, you could flash the KJ6 modem file to see if it helps. As for something to get it back on par with Froyo, I'll have to leave that to the experts around here.
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To be honest, noone really knows exactly what the problem is.
But if you want to add the wifi properties of KJ6 to any ROM, which are way stronger than any previous GB build, you can refer to my thread in the development section. The mod I posted gives you the wifi of KJ6 without the modem. (Im currently using this mod with KI3 and my wifi is pretty darn good ATM ;p)
Look in dev section... possible fix posted earlier
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hi and welcome to another round of neebish questions of the day...
i flashed new radio from stock to version 20.4801.30.0822U_3822.10.08.04_M and started reading a bit after, after a while i became aware that changing the radio could affect battery life and also it could be wrong in terms of where i live in the world, ive had it on my phone for several hours, and it seems to be working well, but im just a noob..... how can i know
i was basicly wondering if anyone of u who actually know this stuff could confirm that i didnt do anything stupid ? im putting in the link to where i found the radio files (its posted in the comments on the page by rataplan626, its not the same radio as the one that originally was posted in the thread)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1312144&page=5
thank you for great answers and for being patient with those of us that are new to all of the difficult terms and choices connected to rooting and stuff i hope someday i will be just as big of an resource as you guys
if the radio flashed then everything should be fine. The best way to test is to just use the phone. You won't notice much of a difference though but if you do then something may have gone wrong. But provided it was all done right, that radio should be fine. However, i should advise you flashing radios are not the safest thing for your phone. Also I don't think it makes much of a difference where you are. I flashed that same radio and it's all good for me.
I would advise searching around a bit more though. These questions have been answered many times before.
thnx then it should all be fine
Cheers ^^
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why is it so hard to find what i need to go back to stock t mo us GB? i need wifi calling to work. is it too much to ask for some help? i have neen searching for hours. i need wifi calling. it seems as though these ics roms are all about colors and boot logos rather than actual full functionality. i just want to flash the firmware back and get a stock rooted rom.
Kevc44485 said:
why is it so hard to find what i need to go back to stock t mo us GB? i need wifi calling to work. is it too much to ask for some help? i have neen searching for hours. i need wifi calling. it seems as though these ics roms are all about colors and boot logos rather than actual full functionality. i just want to flash the firmware back and get a stock rooted rom.
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Nice passive insult.
Anyway, two options:
1) Flash a RUU
2) Downgrade to hboot 1.17 and restore the gingerbread backup (that you didn't make) or flash a basically stock rom - such as ARHD.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1098849
ARHD 6.6.2 has it in its installer
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1074559
shipped rom collection
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1551714
OrDriod 2.0.5 as it in its installer
otherwise jsut search for the T-Mobile add-on pack
Thank you sir.
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Nice passive insult.
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Should have been taken as more of a kick in the pants than an insult. Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe a functioning browser and (in my opinion) WiFi calling are a wee bit more important than ever changing colors and boot animations. At this point I see no advantage with ics rather than gb. In fact for me I'm at a disadvantage because I have to pay an overage charge next month due to the WiFi calling not working. I don't think anyone could hardly blame me for being a little upset.
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Should have been taken as more of a kick in the pants than an insult. Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe a functioning browser and (in my opinion) WiFi calling are a wee bit more important than ever changing colors and boot animations. At this point I see no advantage with ics rather than gb. In fact for me I'm at a disadvantage because I have to pay an overage charge next month due to the WiFi calling not working. I don't think anyone could hardly blame me for being a little upset.
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I thanked how ignorant that was. Every rom I've tried has had a functioning browser and since only two carriers on Earth use Wifi calling (I don't believe it's even the same kind), it's not exactly a priority. ICS brings HWA and proper dual core support - how you missed that; I'll never know.
WiFi calling is free if you have the free WiFi calling plan so yes it a priority for me. And um duh I am pretty sure what I am trying to do is go back to a stock Rom.
Skipjacks said:
Probably should have made a back up.
Would have been real easy. Flash old firmware. Reflash old ROM. Would have taken about 5 minutes.
And you wouldn't have had to make multiple threads complaining about how other people who don't owe you anything aren't making you perfect custom ROMs fast enough.
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Ever heard of corrupted memory card? Or do you live in perfectnothingevergoeswrongland?
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Ever heard of corrupted memory card? Or do you live in perfectnothingevergoeswrongland?
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Darsh. Please read more.
How about keep a stock backup on your computer too? I suppose that would require thinking ahead.
Of all the sensation devs we have I cannot think of one that uses tmobile USA, so it's not a priority for them is it?
Get over it, flash your stock rom, and go back to thinking the world revolves around you ;-)
enough flaming and fighting. Keep on topic, if you can't help don't troll the thread. Thanks.
noellenchris
you do know there are apps such as groove ip and talkatone that let you make wifi calling so you dont have to rely on t mobiles wifi calling app. and ics has many advantages besides "flashy colors and boot animations". and i as well have never had a problem with the browser in any of the 8-10 roms ive flashed. oh well have fun downgrading!
I guess ill never understand why people act like me going back to a different Rom so I can use a certain feature that I need without an issue would make any difference in your life. After all isn't that what the hell xda developers is for is to have a choice? Are people really like that on earth? I don't know you, you're nowhere near me and I don't give a damn about you. Why would I be told to "have fun downgrading"? Is my Rom downgrade affecting everyone's phone or is it just mine? I guess as long as someone else can say they have the latest Rom kernal and radio they can say that they're better than the next guy. I guess your idea of me "upgrading" is to have a phone with ics but to have my WiFi calling not work. Yeah, that's really an upgrade for me. Thanks for your godlike insight. I needed it to find my way in life to get a non working ics build on my phone so I can say I'm as good as you are. Thanks god.
I don't like the way the xda forums show up on the browser on ics. It's hard to explain but its like part of the screen slides over instead of the whole thing. It's wierd I know. I mean dang though if I'm having a problem is it really hurting anyone else if I don't wanna deal with it on my phone? I hate how the web pages are on ics. how many times did I say I want to go back to gb and wait for an official tmous ics update to come out and go from there? Wow. This is crazy. All I wanted was WiFi calling and a stock browser. I had no idea I was hurting anyone else by asking what I need to do to put gb back on my phone. I'm sorry. I'll just pay money in overage charges so that I can say my phone is better than his because it has ics even though its not really better for me cause my WiFi calling don't work and I don't like the browser. I'm so sorry.
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I guess ill never understand why people act like me going back to a different Rom so I can use a certain feature that I need without an issue would make any difference in your life.
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No one cares what ROM you want to use.
What cheeses people off is the way you complain about the hard work of others not being good enough for you and demand that this community drops everything it's doing to help you do something. And you act like we're bad people because we're not putting YOUR needs as our top priority.
You get back what you give. You give everyone a bad attitude and bark demands. So you get nasty responses.
There's 100 threads around here for people asking the same kind of thing you are. (So for one...search before asking) Those threads are usually from people asking nicely, and you'll see that there's a large number of people happily willing to help. Since lots of people want to help others, but no one wants to help you, consider that your approach may be the problem.
And my post is being 100% sincere and helpful. It's probably the best advice you can get on XDA because I'm giving you the key to getting more help on future problems instead of being ignored and chastised again. Take this advice seriously and you'll get a lot more assistance in the future. Don't take this advice and your next question will irritate everyone again and you'll get a lot of grief again.
Ok
I don't recall making any demands. Not sure where that came from. I was frustrated and in urgent need of the instructions but I never demanded anything. And I thanked the only person who did help. I mean what the heck I was getting mad that the WiFi calling kept cutting out and no patch would fix it. And I was using the hell outta my minutes. For some reason WiFi calling wouldn't work with any rom I tried. Yeah I want ics on my phone but it just ain't workin. And yes I superwiped and all that kinda stuff. Hell I love the color and and animations and tweaks but man keep it real functionality trumps colors. I'm trying these kitchens myself and I'm working on my own ics tmous rom. Apparently there are no US sensation devs so we're on our own here.
And this is what I found on the arhd page about WiFi calliing
w_bovine said:
You have to keep in mind that WiFi Calling on this or any other ICS ROM is sketchy at best. Some have reported good success with it but most have problems with consistency and some simply can't get it to work.
Until T-Mobile releases an update WiFi Calling will be unreliable. As it is the included WiFi Calling is merely an add-on and not meant specifically for this base release.
If you truly need WiFi calling it's best you stick to a stock ROM or perhaps a Gingerbread build with proven reliability.
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Skype?
Just sayin'
I'm hoping someone can help me out here. Been going at this for almost 3 hours now
I'm a tmo US user with the sensation 4g. Tried a couple different roms and found reception horrible with all. I then started to mess around with different radios and RILs only to find myself now with no reception and little to no wifi no mater what I flash.
Tried wiping and flashing CM9 nightly and that didnt help either.
Not sure if I need to provide any more infornation but would obviously apreciate any input
MattyEL said:
I'm hoping someone can help me out here. Been going at this for almost 3 hours now
I'm a tmo US user with the sensation 4g. Tried a couple different roms and found reception horrible with all. I then started to mess around with different radios and RILs only to find myself now with no reception and little to no wifi no mater what I flash.
Tried wiping and flashing CM9 nightly and that didnt help either.
Not sure if I need to provide any more infornation but would obviously apreciate any input
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Hi,
Try posting HERE
There is a radio/ril genius in charge.
malybru said:
Hi,
Try posting HERE
There is a radio/ril genius in charge.
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Great thank you!