I hear so many people boasting about there intergration of there iPhone to there car stereo. So I thought ill ask here, what is the best car stereo for our HTC sensations?
I'm personally looking for something that will play the music on the phone with maybe bluetooth and hands free integrated with blue tooth. I'm wondering what else is possible ...? So what stereo do you suggest and price?
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smoothy666 said:
I hear so many people boasting about there intergration of there iPhone to there car stereo. So I thought ill ask here, what is the best car stereo for our HTC sensations?
I'm personally looking for something that will play the music on the phone with maybe bluetooth and hands free integrated with blue tooth. I'm wondering what else is possible ...? So what stereo do you suggest and price?
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IMO nothing will sound better than an aux cable running from the phone to the head unit. I have a 3 feet cable that runs from the phone that's mounted in a dash car mount by Anker. I have bt running to my Blueant S4 for calls, so I'm ok with incoming calls. A little ghetto but works in my 2001 Mazda Tribute with 120,000 miles on the engine LOL
kpjimmy said:
IMO nothing will sound better than an aux cable running from the phone to the head unit. I have a 3 feet cable that runs from the phone that's mounted in a dash car mount by Anker. I have bt running to my Blueant S4 for calls, so I'm ok with incoming calls. A little ghetto but works in my 2001 Mazda Tribute with 120,000 miles on the engine LOL
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yes, the direct aux into the stereo sounds great. My 2008 taurus x has a factory aux input in the stereo and it sounds flawless. Best part is the cable was only about 5bucks at radio shack
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I haven't used this but I REALLY wanna get it....
Parrot Asteroid Android Deck
I installed this stereo a few weeks ago and I am loving it!
http://store.sony.com/webapp/wcs/st...storeId=10151&langId=-1&partNumber=DSXS310BTX
Here is a good in action review
http://youtu.be/VK7UDtXEBtQ
Sonichi SB50 Digital Radio with Bluetooth
I just bought this stereo at the weekend and although being an unheard of make i am so far finding it very good, It has Bluetooth streaming from your phone, bluetooth handsfree for making/recieving calls although not as easy to use as say a parrot bluetooth kits, It also has a usb slot and SD card slot for storage of music and even better it has DAB Digital radio which appears to work very well.
this is for sale at halfords for £129.99 i am unable to post links for some reason but feel free to pm me is you can not find it
Clarion VZ401
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7-inch Motorized Digital WVGA Touch Panel LCD Monitor
CD/MP3/WMA/DVD Playback
Built-in Bluetooth Interface (HFP, HSP, OPP, A2DP, AVRCP)
Built-in Microphone and External Microphone Ready with Optional RCB199
Navigation Ready with Optional NP401
(2) Audio/Video Inputs (Front 3.5mm, Rear RCA)
Video Output for Rear Seat Entertainment
Rear USB Port with iPod Direct Connect Capabilities
iPod Audio/Video Control with Optional CCA750 iPod Interface Cable
Rear Vision Camera Composite Video Input
Sirius Direct Connect Ready
HD Radio Ready with Optional THD400
40 Watts x 4 Built-in Amplifier (CEA compliant <--- very important)
6-Channel / 2 Volt RCA Output
Subwoofer Volume Control
Built-in Low-Pass Filters
Magna Bass EX Dynamic Bass Enhancement and Parametric Equalizer
OEM Steering Wheel Remote Ready
Wireless Remote Control Included
$350 from amazon! Havent seen anything that can compare at this price! Syncs with phone book and BT audio works great (but AV into headphone jack sounds better...) I use usb to charge phone...couldn't be happier!
(sorry about mega-pic...at work and couldn't resize)
Damn talk about expensive stereos. My brother got this:
http://www.amazon.com/Potato-Techno...DU5E/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1328116378&sr=8-2
It works GREAT. But at basically 100 bucks was a little to expensive for my tastes, was hoping to see something cheaper here but i guess not lol
My search continues but i might end up getting that.
All in All there are tons of solutions but be aware HI-FI over BT is mission impossible!!! So auxi cable in 3.5mm headphones jack rulezz. Also FM transmitters are all IMO of unacceptable low sound quality. If your head unit in car have AUX in use that... and + some additional bt device like PARROT for bt and calls.
BT cant go HI-FI and draining bat like mad. FM transmits only equivalent of, 128 Kb/s MP3, which is way low standard form my Harman Kardon car system in BMW.
I use AUX IN with 3.5 mm headphone plug.
cheers
I'm using FM transmitter which works well and they are cheap. You get to hear everything from your phone as it if was a radio station on the car stereo.
Go groove has one for 29.99 on amazon
http://www.amazon.com/Advanced-Syst...TABI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1328152611&sr=8-1
First i tried a Car-Stereo from Pioneer. When installed i realized it only support hands-free phone, but not audio-streaming over bluetooth. I sent it back to amazon and have now a Sony MEXBT3900U (around 115 €). Sadly, the Sound-Quality in radio-default settings of the Sony is hearable worse compared to the pioneer before. But since i played with the settings, and found a bluetooth-sound-volume "sweet-spot" for best dynamics (around 90 to 95 % bluetooth-volume), i began to love it. Start the car, choose a playlist on phone and put phone beside and switch songs by car-audio. If someone calls, music mutes, of course. You can hear navigation-commands from HTC locations (which i use a lot) over car-stereo.
Imagine, when you have a people-stuffed-car on a way to a party and someone from the back says something like: "...another song please, this one sucks.", you just reach the phone back and say: "...then choose one and press play."
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All in All there are tons of solutions but be aware HI-FI over BT is mission impossible!!! So auxi cable in 3.5mm headphones jack rulezz. Also FM transmitters are all IMO of unacceptable low sound quality. If your head unit in car have AUX in use that... and + some additional bt device like PARROT for bt and calls.
BT cant go HI-FI and draining bat like mad. FM transmits only equivalent of, 128 Kb/s MP3, which is way low standard form my Harman Kardon car system in BMW.
I use AUX IN with 3.5 mm headphone plug.
cheers
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I lol´d. There is no special battery drain. And.... The digital/analog converter of sensation is not bad, compared to other phones. But, seriously, using the analog 3.5 mm headphone from a phone is as far away from Hi-Fi like BT-Audio is.
dave
I work over at audio express in phoenix and I personally think jvc is the way to go. I have a KDA-815 its a few years old but it works great. As for a new model they have the kda-735bt and it is only 159.99. Am/FM, CD, aux, USB, and Bluetooth ( both hands free and a2dp) for the price you cantbeat it IMO... plus jvc has a app in the android market
http://mobile.jvc.com/product.jsp?modelId=MODL029040&pathId=142&page=1
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A big part of the question is "How long do plan on keeping the car?" and "How nice of a car is it?".
I would not put my $350 VZ401 in a Escort. I wouldn't put a $150 radio in a Cadillac. Another thing to consider is most speakers sound a whole lot better if given the proper power (esp the stock units that are not the cheapest one offered through the manufacturer.) Also be aware that most of these aftermarket head units that proclaim "50w x 4" on the faceplate are actually kicking out 15-18 watts RMS, and most start distorting after volume passes 1/2 to max, so the best you will get is 7-9w, which isnt crap.
So do yourself a favor and find a CEA compliant radio, which mean is actually has been tested to put out the power it claims to. The alternative is to use external amp...
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In case you didn't know, they are in stock at the moment on the HTC site (supplied by Expansys), received mine this morning and it looks awesome, compliments the TD perfectly
Novelty wears off fast though.
Tell you the truth, when I recieved mine I couldnt help feeling a little... ripped off.
Anyhow, ive noticed a bug with the Diamond when docked in a cradle or otherwise.
If someone calls you and the phones in the cradle, if you pull it out and hit the answer soft key it always rejects the call.
Will check tonight to see if that happens and true, it is an expensive piece of kit but still looks nice
got mine the other day, felt robbed, they didnt even have the decency to another mini usb to usb lead, i know one comes in the box but i use that for the charger.
whats the sound quality like?
Do we get this in India ???
Did anyone connect it to an audio system through the audio output ?
asksaravana said:
Do we get this in India ???
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I don't know, do you?
What I don't like about it is you have to use both hands to release the phone. You can't just lift it out of the cradle with one hand. Otherwise it looks good and sits nicely next to all my other phone docks/cradles
I've got a Nokia 5310 in a JBL speaker dock which also has a line in. I've connected the HTC cradle audio output in to the JBL dock and play stream internet radio using Resco Radio. It's good enough for a bit of quiet background music.
bad quality sound music and voice on cradle
hello
plz help me
i have touch diamond and buy CR G3OO GENERIC DESKTOP CRADLE for lissening of music by high qulity by using 3.5 streeo jack to my ampilefire but
when i connect my headphon or other thing such as speaker to 3.5 streeo jack on rear of the stand voice and music are very bad quality like that when using defaulte streeo headset on diamond pack but when using bluetooth streoo headphone music is very good quality how can use high quality whit 3.5 jack on my stand or my default headset on diamond?
plz help me tanx
@mmf
I have exactly the same problem (although I haven't tried bluetooth headsets). I think that the simple answer is that whatever hardware in the diamond converts the sound for headphones/lineout via the USB is just of poor quality. It doesn't have anything to do with the stand itself. I have tried running the lineout through my computer's soundcard, which sounded bad.
I have also tried listening through my Shure e3 headphones via a converter attached to the usb connector.
Both were unimpressive, but I doubt that there is anything that can be done.
i got this one for free when i bought my phone ! Unfortunatelly they were out of stock and I am still waiting to receive it
Ithink i'll wait till they'll go down to a decent/ reasonable price
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@mmf
I have also tried listening through my Shure e3 headphones via a converter attached to the usb connector.
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hello and tanx
are you good quality when using USB CONVERTER ?
i mailed to htc company and say this problem but they dont answer me yet
Sound Quality
konsta819 said:
I think that the simple answer is that whatever hardware in the diamond converts the sound for headphones/lineout via the USB is just of poor quality.
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Just to let you know that while I'm coding at work I listen to music all day on my Diamond using the official HTC adaptor (YC A200) with my 3.5mm Sony Headphones plugged in.
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ActiveSync, Charging and listening to music all at the same time work fine - no noticable interferance or sound quality probs. The thing about the YC A200 is that the short cable that goes from the phone to the expansion box is really wide and not very flexible. I figure there must be a good amount of shielding in there to prevent the power feed from interfering with the audio.
I sometimes also plug it into the line-in in my car and seems fine.
I notice that the YC A300 is coming out shortly - but I don't know what is better about it? The specs look the same?
expanium said:
i got this one for free when i bought my phone ! Unfortunatelly they were out of stock and I am still waiting to receive it
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Was that from devicewire by any chance? Mine was the same - and my free dock arrived today... almost 3 months after I purchased the Diamond!!
Nice looking piece of kit... but excessively large if you ask me. My previous iPhone dock was about 1/5th of this size and did the same job! Just takes up extra space on my desk!
Jamzb said:
Just to let you know that while I'm coding at work I listen to music all day on my Diamond using the official HTC adaptor (YC A200) with my 3.5mm Sony Headphones plugged in.
ActiveSync, Charging and listening to music all at the same time work fine - no noticable interferance or sound quality probs. The thing about the YC A200 is that the short cable that goes from the phone to the expansion box is really wide and not very flexible. I figure there must be a good amount of shielding in there to prevent the power feed from interfering with the audio.
I sometimes also plug it into the line-in in my car and seems fine.
I notice that the YC A300 is coming out shortly - but I don't know what is better about it? The specs look the same?
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"N.B. This new product replaces the existing YC A100 Y-cable and YC A200 Multifunctional cable. The cable allows for simultaneous charging and talking via a wired headset."
is the dock really worth getting? it has a huge price tag on it
@ Addicteddddd
The dock is purely for aesthetics and charging ease: it has no technical features.
@mmf
Yesterday I flashed my ROM for the first time from stock 1.37WWE to a recent cooked one. The audio problems were fixed. The diamond now sounds as it should, and I thoroughly recommend you to do the same.
I was wondering if anyone knew of a bluetooth adapter of sorts that would connect to your head units aux jack, that way you could hide the ... (unit?)
And listen to music wirelessly in your car and also be able to glove box your phone so not to use it while driving...
Ideas?
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I highly recommend the Kensington LiquidAux. Works great.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0011UIX2K/ref=mp_s_a_2?qid=1286431054&sr=8-2
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I second that recommendation. It plugs into your car outlet, and then has a cord that plugs directly into your aux so it gets great music quality. Essentially it adds bluetooth support to those of us whose stereos dont have bluetooth.
It also supports answering calls. However, If I remember correctly it forces you to use their built in mic (its built in to the main unit that plugs into the outlet thing.) Sooo the call quality on the callers end wont usually be great.
If even one minor cord is a pet peeve for you, I can direct you to
Here
or
Here
But I cant guarantee their quality as im not familiar with them. A little unrelated, but this is cool too Here
From the website pics, it looks as though you can connect the usb cable underneath cig lighter adapter to charge device?
EDIT: another post was posted in the time it took for me to post.
I really like the third link you provided due to being cheap. I am very annoyed with wires. My first fm transmitter got destroyed cause someone rolled the seat over the wire.
Has anybody here used that ipod shuffle looking unit or recommend something else?
I mean, is there soemthing that's just hands down, better than the rest? Also cheap?
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i have an Alpine EX-10 bluetooth kit i got on amazon for about 25 bucks. awesome deal.
http://www.amazon.com/Alpine-eX-10-...TIDK/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1286431832&sr=8-2
it lets you connect via bluetooth or direct connect to ipods, and then can connect to your headunit by stereo aux jack or by FM transmitter. the remote will work with android music player controls too, at least it did on my nexus. havent tried on the G2 yet.
also it has a mic for phone calls, and will play phone calls through car speakers, and it syncs with your phone address book instantly.
it comes with a color display. the only downside is that it comes with a TON of wiring. I have a cigarette port in my center console so i was able to put much of the wiring in there, and bury most of the cables under the console where the parking brake and gearbox is.
Will that alpine ex-10 connect to the 2006/2007 alpine units with their in house connector? (The blue or green one)
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i believe theres only three methods of connection: stereo line-in, fm transmitter, and there's this KWE155B switch box which connects directly into the FM antenna on your headunit.
here's the alpine official info page: http://www.alpine-usa.com/product/view/ex-10/
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I mean, is there soemthing that's just hands down, better than the rest? Also cheap?
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Unfortunately, those two things rarely go together.
The Kensington device I can surely recommend, and I think it's only $19 on buy.com. You really can't beat that price. I might buy another one for my girl's car, while I'm thinking about it.
I only have the one wire tucked behind the dash and plugged into the aux adaptor for the factory Ford stereo. The mic works surprising well for hands-free phone use, even with it way over to the right and kinda low where I have it.
That's a drag. I was hoping to utilize said connection.
Thank you for the idea but I can just see now how well it's gonna go lookin for that remote.
Still lookin at that iPod shuffle lookin unit...
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philosophics said:
That's a drag. I was hoping to utilize said connection.
Thank you for the idea but I can just see now how well it's gonna go lookin for that remote.
Still lookin at that iPod shuffle lookin unit...
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Yeah, plus I can see it being useful for two different situations.
1) Clip it onto your shirt and you can keep your phone in your pocket while listening to your music and controlling your music without ever taking your phone out of your pocket. Good for jogging etc.
2) Car usage. It has a 3.5mm jack. So im thinkin' we can plug the aux into it and then connect our phones via blue tooth. Its not as much of a hassle as you think if you just clip the device somewhere in your car and leave it there.
But then, I still am iffy on how easily id be able to skip tracks. I mean, I guess I could clip it somewhere easy access in my car so I can skip tracks via the device, but I dunno. I kinda liked the Liquid Auxs steering wheel controls *shrugs*
http://www.buy.com/prod/bluetooth-3...er/q/sellerid/18700237/loc/111/211421284.html
I purchased this and should be receiving it this week or next. I'll let you know how it goes. Essentially you will be able to stream music from your phone to your aux input on your head unit via bluetooth. Not sure if this is what you are looking for though.
rUsTyRuSs said:
http://www.buy.com/prod/bluetooth-3...er/q/sellerid/18700237/loc/111/211421284.html
I purchased this and should be receiving it this week or next. I'll let you know how it goes. Essentially you will be able to stream music from your phone to your aux input on your head unit via bluetooth. Not sure if this is what you are looking for though.
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I could be wrong, but this looks like a device to stream bluetooth FROM a device that lacks bluetooth output (like an older ipod or discman, etc.).
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I like the one that attaches to the steering wheel to cause it makes the most logical sense for the car but wires! I can hide them so really not a problem and I can charge the device as well.
I cant't really think of an easy access place to CLIP the iPod shuffle looking unit to even though that's the one that's more convienent.
Now if we can use one or the other with a car dock, this will be a perfect addition and make things very simple!
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I just bought another of the Kensington LiquidAux for $19.99 with free shipping. Its just too good of a deal to pass up.
I'll either put it in my girl's car (she has my old N1), or sell it for profit! Everyone that gets in my car always asks about it. The steering wheel control is what really makes it work for me. The skip track and play/pause buttons not only work with the stock music app, but other apps like Pandora.
I think buy.com is showing one left in stock...I'm tempted to get it myself.
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seancneal said:
I just bought another of the Kensington LiquidAux for $19.99 with free shipping. Its just too good of a deal to pass up.
I'll either put it in my girl's car (she has my old N1), or sell it for profit! Everyone that gets in my car always asks about it. The steering wheel control is what really makes it work for me. The skip track and play/pause buttons not only work with the stock music app, but other apps like Pandora.
I think buy.com is showing one left in stock...I'm tempted to get it myself.
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Does the phone button on the remote work for you with the G2? Doesn't seem to do anything when pressed for me.
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Does the phone button on the remote work for you with the G2? Doesn't seem to do anything when pressed for me.
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Works great for me! It actually activates the Voice Dialer app by default.
Make sure the bluetooth is paired for Phone AND Media both. You should have two amber lights on the adapter (the part plugged into the lighter) when both are paired properly. They will turn blue when in use. Also, if the remote isn't working at all, I think you can push in the center of the remote for a few seconds to re-pair it with the adapter. I can't remember exactly, but it's in the paperwork that came with the unit.
I hope that works for you. Let me know...
seancneal said:
Works great for me! It actually activates the Voice Dialer app by default.
Make sure the bluetooth is paired for Phone AND Media both. You should have two amber lights on the adapter (the part plugged into the lighter) when both are paired properly. They will turn blue when in use. Also, if the remote isn't working at all, I think you can push in the center of the remote for a few seconds to re-pair it with the adapter. I can't remember exactly, but it's in the paperwork that came with the unit.
I hope that works for you. Let me know...
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Already checked the pairing (on both mine and wife's setup) and it was correctly paired.
Also, manually initiating the call and switching to bluetooth via the dialer also worked already.
After reading your post though, manually opened the voice dialer (for the first time) and since then it has worked. Maybe voice dialer has to be run once in order for it to associate itself with the bluetooth call button function?
I'm probalby using the wrong words to google it? But I want a Bluetooth adapter that is capable of both 'receive' and 'transmit' at the same time. Or full-duplex.
I'd prefer it be an APT-X, but anything small with good battery life will do.
Why? Well, for a DIY project where I'll be using something like what you see in the pic below, to listen to my phone and make calls.
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How about the Samsung HS3000? http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B004XYI998/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1388903737&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX110_SY165
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AMoosa said:
How about the Samsung HS3000? http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B004XYI998/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1388903737&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX110_SY165
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Thanks, but that won't work because its microphone is integrated into the box rather than external like the boom mic you see in my pic.
That's true but from what I understand, if your headphones have a Mike, it will use that instead.
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That's true but from what I understand, if your headphones have a Mike, it will use that instead.
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The HS3000 would be perfect if it did this. But I have googled for the last ten minutes and haven't found anything that suggests it lets you use an external mic. Do you remember where you saw this info?:good:
Found one. And it took several hours of searching to locate this. So I'll post it up here in case anyone in the future needs something like this.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/product-reviews/B009E7R7GU/ref=dp_top_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1
HTC BH S600 Bluetooth Stereo Headset
The built-in microphone is in the headset CABLES, rather than in the dongle itself.
So if you remove the headset and plug a different headset into the dongle, then the new headsets mic gets used. :good:
The only problem is these are not super easy to find in the USA unless you want to spend more than they are worth.
CZ Eddie said:
Found one. And it took several hours of searching to locate this. So I'll post it up here in case anyone in the future needs something like this.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/product-reviews/B009E7R7GU/ref=dp_top_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1
HTC BH S600 Bluetooth Stereo Headset
The built-in microphone is in the headset CABLES, rather than in the dongle itself.
So if you remove the headset and plug a different headset into the dongle, then the new headsets mic gets used. :good:
The only problem is these are not super easy to find in the USA unless you want to spend more than they are worth.
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So if i am understanding this correctly, you can unplug those headphones and plug in another set and now that set is bluetooth?
elesbb said:
So if i am understanding this correctly, you can unplug those headphones and plug in another set and now that set is bluetooth?
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Technically, neither of the headphones are bluetooth. They are both corded.
What's bluetooth is what the headphones are plugging into. The tiny box.
So you can use any headphones in the world with this Bluetooth box. As long as they have a 3.5mm plug.
Impedance performance may vary of course.
CZ Eddie said:
Technically, neither of the headphones are bluetooth. They are both corded.
What's bluetooth is what the headphones are plugging into. The tiny box.
So you can use any headphones in the world with this Bluetooth box. As long as they have a 3.5mm plug.
Impedance performance may vary of course.
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That's probably the coolest thing in the world. I think I might be getting one! Bluetooth Sennheiser IE8s? HELL YES!
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elesbb said:
That's probably the coolest thing in the world. I think I might be getting one! Bluetooth Sennheiser IE8s? HELL YES!
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If those don't have a built-in microphone, then I would probably go with something different. The Samsung HS3000 has microphone built into the box and is an excellent choice for high efficiency headphones. Otherwise, it may not put out as much power as other alternatives.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1711299
It's the same deal. You can use the Samsung with just about any wired headset on the planet that has 3.5mm jack.
Full Duplex Bluetooth
CZ Eddie said:
I'm probalby using the wrong words to google it? But I want a Bluetooth adapter that is capable of both 'receive' and 'transmit' at the same time. Or full-duplex.
I'd prefer it be an APT-X, but anything small with good battery life will do.
Why? Well, for a DIY project where I'll be using something like what you see in the pic below, to listen to my phone and make calls.
Have you found a solution for this? I have been looking for some time for a similar DIY project. I have found one product from overseas and one in the US. The product overseas is about $270 with shipping and because it is overseas they won't accept returns. The one in the US has a PTT (Push to Talk) button that I would have to try and get around it.
I also found a device that allow you to either transmit or receive but that only gives you a simplex transmission from a headset. You can either talk to the person or listen to them, not both. I have a MultiPoint headset but that requires which device you want to be paired with.
If you already found something, I would love to hear about it.
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Same question here, want to make a headset wireless with bluetooth
I have a similar question.
I need a Bluetooth adapter (transceiver?) that supports simultaneous use of mono earphone and microphone. This is surprisingly difficult to find.
It doesn't matter if the earphone and microphone are on the same line. It would be cool if each had a separate 3.5 mm jack, but I think such a Bluetooth adapter does not exist.
As CZ Eddie indicated, there are units with the microphone built into the adapter itself, but I would like to keep the adapter discreet (e.g. not clipped to my shirt). Hence the need for a separate mic line.
The closest I've found is the Blue-Wi Nighthawk (bluewicomm.com/nighthawk-microphone-combo-system). The primary mic is on the unit itself, but an external mic can be added through the 3.5 jack as part of their "Connect & Go" system (bluewicomm.com/connect-go-accessories). What's not clear to me is if that jack can be used simultaneously for both earphone and mic.
PrymeBlu (pryme.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=2323) looks like a very similar system to Nighthawk.
I'm really surprised this is so hard to find. It looks like 99% of wearable Bluetooth adapters are designed for output only.
Any ideas greatly appreciated!
Yes, I know that his is an old thread, but I need exactly what the HTC BH S600 has. A way to use an external mic for a bluetooth headset. I want to use a directional mic of my choosing for my in car use of bluetooth headset.
I have looked for many hours now, and bought many devices, just to see if they have this function.
I have not seen anywhere that this device is sold anymore on the web.
If anyone finds another device with the same external mic function, please let us know.
Thanks
Yes, me too. I'm still interested in finding the ideal Bluetooth mic.
I'm looking for a simmilar device but on the other end of the bluetooth connection. I would like to connect bluetooth headphones with microphone to it and get wired input and output out of it. I'm looking for such a device for month now Please help.
So, I purchased the Pryme BTH-300, and lo and behold, it WORKS exactly this way. I was able to plug in an external headset with built-in microphone and it recognized and transmitted the audio for phone calls. Works with ModMic as well using a mic/headphone splitter to connect into a SINGLE 3.5mm port. Although I was ecstatic that this worked, the music that played through it was was very poor .
I'm in communication with the Nighthawk folks and will be giving their device a whirl. I also came across a Sony RM-X7BT that has an output and an input for an external microphone. Little concerned because one review stated that ever phone call he had, he had to unplug/plug the mic back in for it to recognize it. But, if you're looking simply for phone calls and mediocre/poor music playback performance is not critical for you, then the Pryme BTH-300 would fit the bill.
I've found "Bluetooth Audio Receiver with Microphone Input"
I've been looking for similar thing, this is old thread but this is pretty common part for all hands-free setups. One can't expect a good audio quality from that because the Bluetooth handsfree/headset profile is not super great.
The device is called "Bluetooth Audio Receiver with Microphone Input (Phone call)" TSA6015 and TSA6016
Without Apt-X: G57B532BBBD83B
With Apt-X: G5BFB502AEA717
it does not have fancy box, but it should work as is.
(I can't post links or images here because I just joined, but the TinyOsShop has nice schematic of the device with microphone and headphones plugged in)
Just registered because I’m having the same problem. I’m blown away this is so difficult to find. Clearly it’s possible to have duplex communication with a dongle since they all seem to have a mic built in. Why I can’t use my own mic is a mystery to me. I’m looking at the TinySine option but it’s sold out everywhere but dedicated websites and I’m kinda sketched out about giving them my money. I’ll keep looking. The HTC isn’t available as far as I can tell and the pryme is too rich for my blood.
Application is me trying to get a Vietnam era helicopter helmet set up for Bluetooth
im looking for something to connect to the back of my stock radio in my Audi thats plays music and charges at the same time. is there anything out there that does this and doesnt break the bank? or am i asking for too much? Thanks
GrapeBandit said:
im looking for something to connect to the back of my stock radio in my Audi thats plays music and charges at the same time. is there anything out there that does this and doesnt break the bank? or am i asking for too much? Thanks
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Yes you are... first my new aftermarket stereo that has a USB input doesn't read the MP3 files off my S4 because the S4 doesn't have a mass storage option when you connect to USB. My old Droid Razr Maxx did have this function, so the stereo would see my SD card as storage. I don't think it's possible for a stock stereo to read the MP3's through USB if it's not a factory built-in feature.
What you need is an aux input and you can play music through your phone's app.
If your stock stereo doesn't have any type of aux input then you need to get a wired FM modulator. It gives you a powered isolated (no alternator noise while charging) input that connects in-line with your FM antenna. This is your best option for playing music from your phone to your older stock stereo.
http://www.amazon.com/Scosche-FM-MOD02-Universal-Modulator-Satellite/dp/B001QBG614
With that being said, for $150 I bought a new stereo with Bluetooth, aux, and USB input from Crutchfield and it came with free shipping, adapter kit, wiring harness, and instructions. I can also change songs and Pandora channels while streaming BT from the stereo
http://www.crutchfield.com/p_130X700BT/Pioneer-FH-X700BT.html?tp=5684
I still have my old wired FM modulator hooked up behind my dash, not being used I just forgot to take it out when I put in my new stereo a few weeks ago.
nice radio. my car has a single din, otherwise id go for an in-dash double din that can play dvd's.
this is what came with my car when i bought it. ipod adapter.lolz
http://blitzsafe.com/catalog/audi/audi-/-m-link1-v-1b/prod_111.html
this plugs in to the back of the radio and plays in the stock cd changer mode, not fm frequency.
if used with apple, it would charge wile playing, but not the case when using a 3.5mm headphone jack.
i had the female ipod to 3.5mm adapter so i can use it on my android, but the ipod cable that attaches to the interface broke. so im just looking for other options.
they have this, 8 pin mini din to female rca cable, then i can do male rca to 3.5mm adapter to get my android to work.
http://blitzsafe.com/catalog/universal/8-pin-mini-to-rca/prod_285.html
trying to figure out how i can play music and charge at the same time without using the damn cigarette lighter. i would probably need, if they even make them, and if it would even work, is male rca to 3.5mm jack and male micro usb
OK, AFAIK, playing music and charging at the same time isn't possible with a single standard Micro USB cable. Now, that said, I have a different setup that lets me do this when i drive. I bought the iBolt car dock for Samsung phones. it comes with a split cable that is Micro USB on one end and then splits into regular USB and AUX-Out on the other end. Connect the phone into the dock, then the AUX out into the radio (radio needs and Aux In) and finally the regular USB into the charger port. Also, make sure your Dock settings are turned on in Settings/Accessory.
Works pretty well for me and i have used it with S#m S4, Note 2 and Note 3. Doesn't work with S5 running stock ROM.
I know you were looking for a solution that did not need the cigarette lighter, but I hope this helps.
for the life of me I cant find male rca on one side that splits to a micro usb and 3.5mm headphone jack. I bet thats probably not even made. lol.
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for the life of me I cant find male rca on one side that splits to a micro usb and 3.5mm headphone jack. I bet thats probably not even made. lol.
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does your car stereo have an Aux in for the 3.5 headphones? if so i see tons of micro usb to 3.5mm adapters available for cheap cheap, wont charge your phone though... thought about wireless charging dock for your car? they're around and kinda cheap. i charge my S4 all the time wirelessly even in my truck. also they do have apapter plugs around that you have to mount into your car ?(pulling out the radio and hooking either into the head unit or jumping the wires there. That'll give you both the usb and aux adapter
i just typed into Ebay mhl to RCA and you will get way better results
edit #2 this is from ebay micro usb to audio out, but once again cannot charge (limitations of electronics and stereos)http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-3-5mm-Micro-USB-Aux-Car-Audio-Cable-Adapter-Connector-For-Samsung-S3-S4-HTC-/251577813190?pt=US_Cell_Phone_PDA_Cables_Adapters&hash=item3a9334c8c6
FordNate said:
does your car stereo have an Aux in for the 3.5 headphones? if so i see tons of micro usb to 3.5mm adapters available for cheap cheap, wont charge your phone though... thought about wireless charging dock for your car? they're around and kinda cheap. i charge my S4 all the time wirelessly even in my truck. also they do have apapter plugs around that you have to mount into your car ?(pulling out the radio and hooking either into the head unit or jumping the wires there. That'll give you both the usb and aux adapter
i just typed into Ebay mhl to RCA and you will get way better results
edit #2 this is from ebay micro usb to audio out, but once again cannot charge (limitations of electronics and stereos)http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-3-5mm-Micro-USB-Aux-Car-Audio-Cable-Adapter-Connector-For-Samsung-S3-S4-HTC-/251577813190?pt=US_Cell_Phone_PDA_Cables_Adapters&hash=item3a9334c8c6
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I have a 8 pin mini din plug that I can hook a 3.5mm headphone jack to. adapter for that is like $5 lol
but that doesnt help for charging lol
so with that said, the car came with iphone/ipod cable that hooked into that 8 pin mini din plug, and that plays music and charges an apple product at the same time. dont have, never had, and never will have an apple product though
While this isn't really what you're asking for, IIRC Pioneers App Radio double din deck allows this... But it is going to break the bank, and from the reviews I remember reading a couple years ago it's not worth the $. I think they're on their 2nd or 3rd gen of this deck now though so maybe it has gotten better.
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While this isn't really what you're asking for, IIRC Pioneers App Radio double din deck allows this... But it is going to break the bank, and from the reviews I remember reading a couple years ago it's not worth the $. I think they're on their 2nd or 3rd gen of this deck now though so maybe it has gotten better.
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trying to keep the stock look in my car, I think it looks good. factory bose system, but its only a single din tape deck...lol
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GrapeBandit said:
im looking for something to connect to the back of my stock radio in my Audi thats plays music and charges at the same time. is there anything out there that does this and doesnt break the bank? or am i asking for too much? Thanks
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I have recently installed a Fusion CA-ML650BT 'Mechless' Head Unit in my 1994 model Mazda Astina. It has no moving parts, simply because it does not have a CD player. Not that it needs one, when I can plug in a USB flash drive full of MP3's, or my iPod, or connect my Galaxy i9505 to it via Bluetooth. I got it on special at an auto parts store for AU$99.00, but their regular retail price is AU$149.00.
What I want to know is, why do you want to keep the car's standard stereo? If you've got an Audi, then why haven't you got a couple of hundred dollars to get yourself a good single-DIN head unit? There is a huge range of single-DIN head units on the market, even those which slide out a large screen for you to watch movies on and also connect to a 'reversing camera' for extra safety.
These days, you don't need a CD player in your car, and I challenge anyone to prove to me why you do. Oh, and don't say, "So I can play DVD's on a 2-DIN screen!", because apps like MX Player and Neutron can stream video via BT into a head unit that accepts such streaming protocols (Alpine, Clarion, JVC and Sony already have such units in their range). The music you've got on compact disc can be converted to MP3 quite easily on a PC, and the top-ranked Android 'media player' apps play almost every standard format of audio and video.
For the latest music, you simply install into your computer a 'Youtube Downloader', then convert the music video you've grabbed to MP3 and you're off and running. Next step, buy a high-capacity Class 10 MicroSD card for your phone - eBay's the cheapest place for them - and fill it with those MP3's. Once you've got that, you 'pair' your phone with the head unit in your car, select 'BT-Audio' as the input source, set the phone's music player to 'Shuffle' and away you go. If you're listening to a song and think, "Urgh, I don't want to hear that now", you simply click the => button on your car stereo and it chooses another at random. With a i9505, you can even play music via Bluetooth while running a navigation app., and the music volume will drop while the GPS guy (or girl) says, "Turn left here!" The other great feature is, if you're driving around (with your phone connected to the stereo via BT) and get a phone call, the head unit will automatically shut off the music, answer the phone for you and you'll hear the caller's voice through your car stereo speakers.
With an increasing number of governments across the world introducing laws restricting mobile phone use whilst driving, these 'hands-free' systems are definitely a good thing, and also worth investing in to lessen the chance of the Police handing you a penalty notice. A bit of shopping around will get you a quality brand head unit at a good price. JVC, Fusion, Clarion, Kenwood, Alpine and Sony are the best manufacturers, they all have 'mechless' head units in their range and eBay is a great place to start your search.
Hope that helps you decide that a move to what is fast becoming standard equipment in vehicles everywhere is worth saving your pennies for...
GrapeBandit said:
I have a 8 pin mini din plug that I can hook a 3.5mm headphone jack to. adapter for that is like $5 lol
but that doesnt help for charging lol
so with that said, the car came with iphone/ipod cable that hooked into that 8 pin mini din plug, and that plays music and charges an apple product at the same time. dont have, never had, and never will have an apple product though
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8 pin mini din plug to micro usb adapter or get a OTG cable and then a usb to ipoo (sorry 8 pin mini female cord).. mice AUDI though. i use BT in my truck. i just picked up one of those BT receivers and when i need to charge i just plug in with a cord to the aux/cigarette lighter., phone sits on my lap or under my leg and io use GoneMad or PowerAmp with Viper4Android and its all smooth
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8 pin mini din plug to micro usb adapter or get a OTG cable and then a usb to ipoo (sorry 8 pin mini female cord).. mice AUDI though. i use BT in my truck. i just picked up one of those BT receivers and when i need to charge i just plug in with a cord to the aux/cigarette lighter., phone sits on my lap or under my leg and io use GoneMad or PowerAmp with Viper4Android and its all smooth
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thanks! I love my audi's lol...have 2 right now and my 5th overall...I figured out what im going to do since we cant play music through our usb let alone charge and play music through usb at the same time. I will eventually get a mechless head unit like Shotty said, they can be had for cheap. I would probably play music through BT. I dont want to use a plug in car charger through the cigarette lighter outlet, so im going to hard wire in a 4post usb outlet under my center console to come out behind the e-brake handle. it will be a 12v to 5v 2amp unit, with 4 usb ports. they are cheap and I can do the wiring myself.
question, how is the quality of the music through BT? is it a digital quality or sub-standard like hooking up to play through my 3.5mm headphone jack?
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thanks! I love my audi's lol...have 2 right now and my 5th overall...I figured out what im going to do since we cant play music through our usb let alone charge and play music through usb at the same time. I will eventually get a mechless head unit like Shotty said, they can be had for cheap. I would probably play music through BT. I dont want to use a plug in car charger through the cigarette lighter outlet, so im going to hard wire in a 4post usb outlet under my center console to come out behind the e-brake handle. it will be a 12v to 5v 2amp unit, with 4 usb ports. they are cheap and I can do the wiring myself.
question, how is the quality of the music through BT? is it a digital quality or sub-standard like hooking up to play through my 3.5mm headphone jack?
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In my 2009 Ranger I'm running a month old Pioneer head unit that pushes 50W x 4 to the speakers and to a Bazooka tube. the BT dongle/receiver is a class 2 receiver (i didnt realize our phones were class 4 till way later), but i notice a quality issue as compared to just running a wire. yes i still have the wire as back up but my audio profiles through V4A are just a bit different. BT seems more robust and louder with the music while the wire is ok, but the earphone plug can get dirty and sound is compromised.. the wire i seem to have to turn up the volume on the head unit just a little more (although slightly) for siiliar quality, tested without V4A installed as well as installed and with 3 players (GoneMad, PowerAmp, and Playerpro all paid versions). only problem so far i've encountered is i have to keep the dongle plugged into power all the time for it to push into my stereo, but it was $13 off ebay so i knew something might be wrong of course.
I was looking for a Pioneer unit with BT built in but nothing fit my budget at the time (Pioneer is known to fit Ford exactly with no size conflict and great sound)
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I will eventually get a mechless head unit like Shotty said, they can be had for cheap.
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Good idea, for not just music but the ability to make and receive phone calls hands-free.
I would probably play music through BT. Question, how is the quality of the music through BT? Is it a digital quality or sub-standard like hooking up to play through my 3.5mm headphone jack?
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It's exactly the same output quality as what you'd hear through a very good set of headphones. If you use the Samsung headphones that came with your device, you will hear poor quality sound no matter what it is. BT streams exactly what is being played, without any loss of sound quality, so it then depends on what the music player does to 'enhance' the track, and also the quality of the track itself. A song ripped from a CD as a 128kbps 22100Hz stereo MP3 sounds nowhere near as good as that same song from the same CD ripped as a 24bit 96000Hz *.FLAC. PowerAMP and Neutron play *.FLAC (Free Lossless Audio Codec) files, and direct stream them in all their glory and pure clarity to the BT receiver. It's then a case of having good quality speakers to reproduce that sound. Every stereo system on the planet is only as good as the speakers they're feeding sound to. You can have a $10,000 receiver+amplifier system but listening to that system through $10 speakers is a waste.
I don't want to use a plug in car charger through the cigarette lighter outlet, so I'm going to hard wire in a 4post usb outlet under my center console to come out behind the e-brake handle. it will be a 12v to 5v 2amp unit, with 4 usb ports. they are cheap and I can do the wiring myself.
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From an auto-electrician's point of view, do that off the cigarette lighter circuit, which will give you a 15A fused loop. Simplest way to do that is to splice in a new female cigarette lighter socket - behind the center console - off the main wiring harness leading to the existing lighter. Then plug an in-car micro USB charger into that female socket, wrap electrical tape around it to insulate and secure the connection, then run the charger lead out from behind the center console near a point where you situate the phone cradle/holder.
All of this is quite simple to do, if you don't go looking for the most complex solution.
I'm hoping that with the new USB Type-C connector and Power Delivery 2.0, someone will finally make my ideal type of DAC for phone use in the car:
USB input for powering DAC from cigarette lighter adapter (2.1A)
USB input/output for connection to Type-C jack on phone - phone sends digital audio to DAC, and phone simultaneously charges at (relatively) high power thanks to Power Delivery 2.0
3.5mm audio line out - connect to car AUX input
Currently the DACs I find that come closest to meeting this are the FiiO E18 and the Creative Labs E5, but both add a lot of expense and complexity in trying to be everything to everyone (internal battery for portable use, headphone amp with volume control, etc.). Reviews also state that using them with a phone while also charging the phone can be very touchy.
Is anyone else looking for something like this, or have ideas about where it can already be found? I'm not averse to using a portable DAC in the car, but I want the phone charging to be pretty bulletproof. :good:
I use this with my Nexus 5 and a USB OTG Host cable. I have a Nexus 6P on the way, and I'm hoping it will still work with a just a micro-USB to USB-C adapter for the Nexus 6P. It works very well now, with the downside that the phone doesn't charge when used this way . I read that that was a hardware limitation in the Nexus 5. Maybe the Nexus 6P will charge while sending USB audio, I don't know.
DAC:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0036VO4X4?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_search_detailpage
USB HOST CABLE:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00C452XFO?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_search_detailpage
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I don't know of a product that matches what you described. I have the OPPO HA-2, but in terms of inputs and functionality, it's much the same as the SoundBlaster and FIIO DACs. I don't see how you can charge your phone at the same time you USB output the audio to one of these devices. Using the analog jacks defeats the purpose.
While I think the setup you described would be good, I think we are probably a year or two away from anything like it. I've noticed a trend in the audiophile world of slow adoption of new things such as USB Type-C. If the market proves me wrong, I'm OK with that! I just don't have high expectations for something like this anytime soon.
Also, I think a better alternative would be an aftermarket deck for your car with a USB input for simultaneous charging / USB audio connectivity straight to the sound system. Skip the external DAC and analog headphone jacks all together. Maybe something with Android Auto on it. Again, adoption of Type-C is probably going to be very slow in this product category, but that would be something I'd like to see!
Besides, audio always seems to limited by the weakest link in the chain. Factory car speakers are just terrible, although I'll admit they've gotten better in the last 4 or 5 years. Why go through the pains of setting up an extravagant DAC setup when the speakers won't make it sound any better? Unless you DO have better speakers, in which case, never mind.
May I ask why the 3.5mm analog out from the phone is not sufficient if your car already has an analog input? What is this buying you?
I have an old 2005 Acura TL with a kickass stereo (DVD-A), but no external inputs. I just installed a Grom Audio AND2 that gives me USB stick, Android and a 3.5mm Analog capability. Mine is running in Satellite Radio Emulation mode to give me Song, Album and Artist info in the display.
As newbie, I can not be helpful and add a link but you can Google Grom Audio and click the compare kits link.
The holy grail for me is automotive systems that will take USB or SD cards and actually have as much functionality as a free app on the play store! Most automotive entertainment system developers are so clueless, they should have their balls crushed in a vice and then be fired! The whole naming audio files "01-Artist-Album-Title" came about because automotive systems won't read metadata tags and support playlists.
Techno Trousers said:
I'm hoping that with the new USB Type-C connector and Power Delivery 2.0, someone will finally make my ideal type of DAC for phone use in the car:
USB input for powering DAC from cigarette lighter adapter (2.1A)
USB input/output for connection to Type-C jack on phone - phone sends digital audio to DAC, and phone simultaneously charges at (relatively) high power thanks to Power Delivery 2.0
3.5mm audio line out - connect to car AUX input
Currently the DACs I find that come closest to meeting this are the FiiO E18 and the Creative Labs E5, but both add a lot of expense and complexity in trying to be everything to everyone (internal battery for portable use, headphone amp with volume control, etc.). Reviews also state that using them with a phone while also charging the phone can be very touchy.
Is anyone else looking for something like this, or have ideas about where it can already be found? I'm not averse to using a portable DAC in the car, but I want the phone charging to be pretty bulletproof. :good:
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May I ask why the 3.5mm analog out from the phone is not sufficient if your car already has an analog input? What is this buying you?
I have an old 2005 Acura TL with a kickass stereo (DVD-A), but no external inputs. I just installed a Grom Audio AND2 that gives me USB stick, Android and a 3.5mm Analog capability. Mine is running in Satellite Radio Emulation mode to give me Song, Album and Artist info in the display.
As newbie, I can not be helpful and add a link but you can Google Grom Audio and click the compare kits link.
The holy grail for me is automotive systems that will take USB or SD cards and actually have as much functionality as a free app on the play store! Most automotive entertainment system developers are so clueless, they should have their balls crushed in a vice and then be fired! The whole naming audio files "01-Artist-Album-Title" came about because automotive systems won't read metadata tags and support playlists.
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I have a 05 TL in Blue with the tan interior and the GPS.
My dad got the 12 TL and the seats are not as comfortable
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gwertheim said:
I have a 05 TL in Blue with the tan interior and the GPS.
My dad got the 12 TL and the seats are not as comfortable
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My 05 TL is also Navy Blue with British Tan leather. Now it has a Grom Audio and I am a fairly happy camper. I used to burn DVD-A discs with about 7 CDs on each and use the "Group" feature. So the 6 disc changer gave me about 42 CDs. BTW, I used Cirlinca DVD-Solo to make and burn DVD Audio Disks.
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My 05 TL is also Navy Blue with British Tan leather. Now it has a Grom Audio and I am a fairly happy camper. I used to burn DVD-A discs with about 7 CDs on each and use the "Group" feature. So the 6 disc changer gave me about 42 CDs. BTW, I used Cirlinca DVD-Solo to make and burn DVD Audio Disks.
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We have the exact same car
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Hi, everyone. Thanks so much for the responses, I really appreciate it. To answer some questions and hopefully clarify things:
Why do this? In my 2007 Honda Civic, I upgraded the speakers just after I bought the car (Boston Acoustics) but left the head unit alone, to get maximum sound quality bang for my buck. I currently have a Galaxy S4, and can take advantage of analog audio out via USB with a special iBolt cable (It operates very similarly to the old 30-pin iPod to analog out cables, if you can picture that).
Via experimentation, I've found that increasing order of sound quality is:
Connection from headphone output to AUX in
Connection from USB analog audio out to AUX in (via iBolt cable)
USB digital out over OTG cable to external DAC, DAC AUX out to car AUX in
Option 3 is far and away the best sound quality. It's a very noticeable difference--as good as playing a CD in the head unit. I will use this option with the Nexus 6P no matter what, but I'd like to be able to charge the phone at the same time, especially on long road trips while using navigation and playing audio. Both the USB Power Delivery specification 2.0 and Android Marshmallow make reference to being able to charge USB host devices, so the missing link is what the best DAC would be to achieve that. It may be that the phone itself will be able to decide whether to draw or output power, which would be ideal if the DAC recognizes and respects that choice.
As for the question about why not get a new head unit? This is an older car, and it's frankly not worth the expense and effort to do that at this time. I'll definitely be looking for Android Auto as a feature in any new car I consider down the road, however.
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Connection from headphone output to AUX in
Connection from USB analog audio out to AUX in (via iBolt cable)
USB digital out over OTG cable to external DAC, DAC AUX out to car AUX in
Option 3 is far and away the best sound quality. It's a very noticeable difference--as good as playing a CD in the head unit. I will use this option with the Nexus 6P no matter what, but I'd like to be able to charge the phone at the same time, especially on long road trips while using navigation and playing audio. Both the USB Power Delivery specification 2.0 and Android Marshmallow make reference to being able to charge USB host devices, so the missing link is what the best DAC would be to achieve that. It may be that the phone itself will be able to decide whether to draw or output power, which would be ideal if the DAC recognizes and respects that choice.
As for the question about why not get a new head unit? This is an older car, and it's frankly not worth the expense and effort to do that at this time. I'll definitely be looking for Android Auto as a feature in any new car I consider down the road, however.
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The GROM kit I bought allows me to play music from USB stick, connect the phone via USB and drive it from the car interface, and aux in. The USB3 kit allows you to add a Bluetooth. I prefer the music on the USB stick. Better connecting a $5 stick than a $500 phone.
The 6P is not USB-PD compliant in that it does not support the PD profiles. 15W (5V/3A) is not a PD spec. It is a Type C spec. Supposedly it uses the control channel in the type C cable/connector but no one knows how far it goes. Some suggest that it will allow reversing power flow. It should allow both data flow and power flow, but it is not a full implementation of USB-PD and is still only USB 2.0 compliant. It should allow charging while connected as long as the host it is plugged into will provide power. At what rate is the big question. Most assume it will drop to legacy 5V 1.5A.
Thanks, dwswager, that's good info. I have a Grom Audio unit in my wife's Mazda, which lacks an AUX in. I'm not 100% happy with it because it tends to lose the ability to get digital audio from the phone, and she needs to reload a config file from a USB stick to reenable that.
I do tend to think that all of this will get worked out in the end. I'm a bit of an edge case, I admit. I do have some good stopgaps now, at least for the non-charging case. That Turtle Beach mini DAC is quite intriguing at only $20. At that price it's worth taking a chance.
I hope we can keep this thread alive as we start to discover what works and what doesn't. November can't get here soon enough!
Techno Trousers said:
Thanks, dwswager, that's good info. I have a Grom Audio unit in my wife's Mazda, which lacks an AUX in. I'm not 100% happy with it because it tends to lose the ability to get digital audio from the phone, and she needs to reload a config file from a USB stick to reenable that.
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Assume you have spoken to GROM. Also will assume you flashed the latest firmware update to your wife's unit. The downside on the AUX input is that it uses a proprietary DIN-4 connector and the cable they supply has a male 3.5mm end. So if you want to mount a female 3.5mm jack in the dash you have to use an extra F/F adapter because the jacks are all wired with 3.5mm male ends. They also make an aux cable with both 3.5 and USB female so you can charge and output analog audio at the same time. You also get standard 5V 1.5A via the USB port in the AND2, USB3 and the ipod only number.
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Techno Trousers said:
Thanks, dwswager, that's good info. I have a Grom Audio unit in my wife's Mazda, which lacks an AUX in. I'm not 100% happy with it because it tends to lose the ability to get digital audio from the phone, and she needs to reload a config file from a USB stick to reenable that.
I do tend to think that all of this will get worked out in the end. I'm a bit of an edge case, I admit. I do have some good stopgaps now, at least for the non-charging case. That Turtle Beach mini DAC is quite intriguing at only $20. At that price it's worth taking a chance.
I hope we can keep this thread alive as we start to discover what works and what doesn't. November can't get here soon enough!
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In terms of audio quality, the Turtle Beach DAC is a serious improvement over just using the 1/8 in. out of the phone. I will say that the Bass response is HUGE coming out of the Turtle Beach, so I usually eq the bass down a couple notches on the car stereo. That said, it really is an amazing improvement in sound quality for very little investment. (I'm a musician, so I tend to fixate on these things.)
By the way, I bought this cable to extend the reach of my OTG / Host cable,
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00HAOKCE8?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00
It's interesting that the seller says USB OTG cables do not support charging.
"This cable is what is known as an OTG, or On-The-Go cable. USB On-The-Go is a specification that allows USB devices such as digital audio players or mobile phones to act as a host, allowing other USB devices like a USB flash drive, digital camera, mouse, or keyboard to be attached to them. These cables do not support charging or syncing of devices. "
bump.
Has anyone found a portable solution to charge phone and offload digital audio to a DAC?
I'm happy to say that the phone works great with my Sony UDA-1 dac/amp (both audio and charging), but it runs off of mains voltage.
I'd even be happy with any single cord solution for simultaneous charging and audio output.
Alright, lemme clear some stuff up here.
For most phones, yes a USB DAC provides better quality than what comes out of the headphone jack and also more volume (doubters can just live on in ignorant bliss :good
On my LG G2, at least, the OTG Y-cable linked earlied charged the phone (although it didn't actually seem to indicate it was charging) and worked with the DAC at the same time
The same cable, when converted from micro USB to USB C and used with the 6P, seems to only be providing charging, the DAC is not working
I will see if I can find anything in the logs or whether there's anything else I can do, maybe bypassing the Y-cable to see if the DAC works at all with the 6P.
Yeeesss yes please, if you or anyone else happens to get a DAC working with the Nexus 6P, please let us all know. I love my 6P, but I definitely miss my setup with my OnePlus One + USB DAC to car AUX...
Is anyone else noticing that audio is downsampled to mono when using Nexus 6p + USB DAC?
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Is anyone else noticing that audio is downsampled to mono when using Nexus 6p + USB DAC?
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No, not at all.
There's also noticeably less noise through the DAC compared to my old Galaxy Note 3.
Which DAC are you using?
Bri81 said:
No, not at all.
There's also noticeably less noise through the DAC compared to my old Galaxy Note 3.
Which DAC are you using?
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this
http://www.amazon.com/Turtle-Beach-Advantage-Digital-Adapter/dp/B0036VO4X4
it worked fine with my nexus 5.
what are you using?
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Bri81 said:
No, not at all.
There's also noticeably less noise through the DAC compared to my old Galaxy Note 3.
Which DAC are you using?
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also, I installed the trial version of USB Audio Player Pro , and I was able to get stereo sound (though limited to the interface of that app and only local files). So there is something really weird happening software wise . . .
Well I tried a USB C to A converter, and my DAC is working fine with the 6P with that. But no charging at the same time, of course.
http://www.amazon.com/Belkin-Adapter-Chromebook-MacBook-Compatible/dp/B00WJSPWRM/
Zorloo is making their earbuds for type C soon. They have built in dacs.
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