Overclocking is harmful.. - Samsung Galaxy Fit GT 5670

I have question abt overclocking
der is any chances to damaging our phone by overclocking
damage means processor got short-circuited or hardware failure

Nothing much, but yeah sometime the phone get heats up..! apart from that, there are some minor damages that gets visible only if you want to use your phone for a long term like more than 5 years!

overall life of phone will be reduced
but i guess it doesnt matter if you change phones every couple of years

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Is there any harm in overclocking my phone?

I know it will obviously shorten battery life (by how much by the way?), but will it damage the CPU or the GPU of the phone?
I know that when overclocking a computer you have to be careful to not let the component get too hot, otherwise it could damage it.
KaiZ51 said:
I know it will obviously shorten battery life (by how much by the way?), but will it damage the CPU or the GPU of the phone?
I know that when overclocking a computer you have to be careful to not let the component get too hot, otherwise it could damage it.
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probably is some harm. but if you ask my nexus s, that i bought in december, itll say that no harm has been done. all the time that it has spent from 1.4-1.6ghz, and still spends a lot of time there, has just made it want more
but really, every phone is different. some it might never harm, some it might harm right away. but ive have never heard of a nexus s that has actually been harmed from overclock. many phones cant overclock much, some can overclock a whole bunch(my phone), some cant even overclock. your phone will let you know when its been overclocked too much. and if it is too much, you can just overclock less/ and, btw, i still use my original battery, and get better battery life now than i did back when i just bought the phone.

[Q] Overclock is sure?

Hi all i want to ask if overclocking is a good think because i have a galaxy w and some month ago i clock my processor from 1.4 to 1.8 gHz (single core).. now the battery life is very reduced, but i don't know if it is caused by the clock or if is the time that have my phone.. i used the clock speed for one week max just for play a hard game with good graphics :eek. :good:
If you've already returned to stock clockspeed it's probably not the overclocking that's causing it. But just to be sure, go and check that the clock is at standard. It has happened for me that the phone has raised the clock by it self for some reason. If thats not the case just try going to the battery stats to see if any app is using a lot of battery. If not I dont know what could be wrong. Maybe it's just time for a new battery (or phone)
Overclocking is not a "good" or "bad" thing. It will use more battery while you're doing it and you can damage the hardware - it's a risk you choose to take.
It's possible something was damaged, but it wouldn't be my first guess.
I'd use something like BetterBatteryStats to find out why your battery is draining and go from there.
Honestly there's really no point your phone is engineered to a certain clock everything in your phone is engineered to run with that clock when you overclock now your straining not just the processor but your battery as well and everything(electronic component wise) is now going to run a lot hotter then it was engineered to run and you have tiny little low voltage surface mount transistors and diodes that don't like heat. So they stop the clock at where they do so they can achieve the best speed they can without harming components and without killing your battery. The more you run that phone like that the less and less your battery is going to last. Its like your poisoning it slowly. Just to archive less then microseconds of snappyness. Its not really worth it there's no point in breaking (not all devices will break but you don't know if you have one with a weak component in it somewhere or not. It might not break until you stress it out) something that intelligent entity's after pulling in matter and from this cosmos and putting it together to engineer such an amazing device. Why break it. Its very possible to do so. Some phones will run a year like that without starting to lag on you from burning out contacts inside components and creating tiny little spark gaps that takes signal and current longer to get where it needs to go so now you start to lag....that can start to happen the next day or an hour after you do it. Or even a year from now. Do you really need to be faster where you barely notice it that badly?
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Just underclock it a little. Saves battery and reduces heat.

What are your CPU and batt temperatures?

Just wanna ask around to check if I'm the only one who feels my phone is a tad bit too hot?
Usually when not charging , the batt temps are around 34-38°C, with the CPU in the range of 38-45°C
When charging the batt goes up to 38°C - 44.7°C or even overheating in the 45-50°C range( ok this would be my fault in using heavier apps)
And the CPU would stay in the range of 40°C - 55°C even without use sometimes
Those temperatures aren't out of the ordinary for this device, that's pretty normal actually. I've had my battery temperature go between 50-55°C fairly regularly, and even as high as 66°C without the phone shutting down (I did cool it down very quickly upon seeing how hot it was though).
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timmaaa said:
Those temperatures aren't out of the ordinary for this device, that's pretty normal actually. I've had my battery temperature go between 50-55°C fairly regularly, and even as high as 66°C without the phone shutting down (I did cool it down very quickly upon seeing how hot it was though).
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Thanks timmaaa, for a moment I thought I was the only one.
I use Battery Mix to record my temperature vs. Battery % over time (use the JB feature to disable its persistent notification): https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=jp.smapho.battery_mix&hl=en
One thing I've noticed is that when it hits 40C+, the space below the camera becomes extraordinarily hot! This happens at least once during a work day, especially happens when I don't touch the device.
When this happens, the drain rate just plummets (when I refer to the battery level slope vs. the phone temperature). However, a reboot fixes the heat (and as a result, the drain rate) over a lengthy amount of time.
I've heard of this, but haven't gotten around to trying it successfully:
http://forums.androidcentral.com/ht...g-red-while-charging-rapid-battery-drain.html
That shouldn't happen while you're not using the phone. Have you used an app like BetterBatteryStats to identify what's draining your battery?
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well this was previously answered by timmaa i had a similar concern cause none of my earlier phone actually felt that warm...
but when i got a green signal that these are normal temperatures, i tried gaming for almost an hour turns out the phone was hot indeed the battery was around 50+ but still the phone dint shut down itself or showed any inconsistency in its functions!
moral of the story.. it happens with everyone.. my friend has a endeavor it also suffers from heating... its so normal that if u search it in google that "why does ht one x get..... "it automatically completes it in with " get hot"(also for the new One).
if you want to cool it down get SET CPU and create a profile in which select battery temperature/cpu temperature at a certain temperature you don't want your phone to exceed and then set the cpu to a lower speed typically till 1026 or 1134...
but again if u feel its necessary cause doing so will obliviously slow down the device.:angel:
Sonone said:
moral of the story.. it happens with everyone.. my friend has a endeavor it also suffers from heating... its so normal
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Of course its normal. All computers generate heat as power is discharged. Manufacturers are also packing more and more computing power into these small devices, and in general that means more heat (although there are other variables). And every smartphone is designed to deal with the heat differently, so those might be some reasons why your previous phones did not feel as warm.
redpoint73 said:
Of course its normal. All computers generate heat as power is discharged. Manufacturers are also packing more and more computing power into these small devices, and in general that means more heat (although there are other variables). And every smartphone is designed to deal with the heat differently, so those might be some reasons why your previous phones did not feel as warm.
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true that!!
even i was actually worried before hearing about it being normal from u and timma as well!
its probably htc one x is build that way.
BTW sorry a little off topic since this issue has already been resolved has anyone heard a little rattling sound near the camera region only when the phone is sharked up and down (from screen to back)
this also is a build issue!
Sonone said:
BTW sorry a little off topic since this issue has already been resolved has anyone heard a little rattling sound near the camera region only when the phone is sharked up and down (from screen to back)
this also is a build issue!
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Totally normal. Just a moving part in the camera module. Likely related to autofocus as you can sometimes hear a sound when focusing the image.
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Lag

I know i made some negative posts on the htc u11 but tbh i love this phone and i was just feeling annoyed by some things.. But i wanted to ask, i expected this phone to be lag free and super fast, yes it is super fast abd smooth but the thing is that it does lag with me and it is noticable. Happens a couple of times a day i think, am i the only one having lag problems? I do have the power saving option on and idk if it's what's causing the phone to lag or not but all i know is it does lag with me and it is unexpected since this phone has htc sense and snapdragon 835. Share your thoughts below
Not just lag but freeze
I'll share my thoughts : you should really stop openning these threads because actually no one believes you, we're all aware that you're here to throw up on this phone.
For who ? We don't know.
Maybe a simple Samsung fanboy who's upset because HTC made a better phone than Samsung's flagships two years in a row ?
Now stop please, it's not funny and it will not prevent people to buy the U11 if they want to.
I don't see Samsung logo on front... Soo no lag here.
Dejan Kruljac said:
I don't see Samsung logo on front... Soo no lag here.
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Turn off the power saver. It's not needed with the Snapdragon 835 and it alters the distribution of the load between the clusters. Things that would complete swiftly and thus conserve power on the big cores gets offloaded to the little cores. The kernel isn't optimized to take advantage of the efficiency of the 835. With it being incredibly easy to get 7 hours of SoT, there is no need for the power saver. Somewhere on XDA there's a very detailed explanation as to what the power saver does and why it shouldn't be used unless your phone is about to die but it curbs both clock speeds and shuffles around the load, preferring to not use the big cores at all. It basically abolishes the efficiency of the big.LITTLE premise and often has opposite the intended effect if you're actively using the phone.
If you need optimization, you can use Boost+ to set individual high drain apps up to be run in 1080p, limit background usage, etc. This is much more effective than essentially killing the performance of the phone and gaining little, if any, additional battery life. It can have the opposite effect and in fact did so on the 10.
Think of it like this - the little cluster may take half the power per cycle than the big cluster (I don't know the exact numbers and highly doubt it's anywhere near half but it works for the example). You open an app that would have completed in a single cycle on the big cluster. That same app can take four to five cycles on the little cluster. You've just thrown efficiency out the window.
If you have a lot of background apps misbehaving and a lot of apps constantly syncing, it can be advantageous but I haven't seen any evidence of that since the Snapdragon 820. The 805 in my Nexus 6 benefited from it but my Note 5 with the Exynos 7420 and my 10 with the Snapdragon 820 suffered.
Lag?? OP must be in the wrong forum. Please go back to your Lagsung S8..
I had freezes on my previous HTC(one m7), and the reason was some crappy game I installed. After removal - no lag at all. Just try and revise your applications and remove ones you have doubts
0 lag. None, Nada, zilch. Either the person who started this post has an app or setting that is causing it or they are intentionally trying to keep people from buying it...Which seems crazy...who would care that much...?

Do Android smart phones wear out?

EDIT: I did manage to find a couple of good sources that I've given below.
I've been using Galaxy s7 exynos for a long time now. I recently had the battery replaced because it had gone to about 50% of its original battery and that got me wondering, does the physical phone itself wear out? Do the chips degrade over time, does the RAM start going bad, that kind of thing. I've rooted and have used factory reset and custom ROMs along the way, so what I'm looking for is information completely apart from the fact that software concerns can slow a phone down and make most owners think their phone is getting old and wearing out. Also I realize that as time goes on and hardware gets better that sometimes apps will outstrip a phone's original abilities but I'm not talking about that either. I've done some googling and mostly what I find is articles talking about "my phone is old now (because better phones with better hardware are now available)" and "if your phone slows down just do a factory reset".
After more googling, I found this information on Quora at https://www.quora.com/Do-smartphone-chips-wear-out-over-time, by Valerie Cietto. This may help someone else with the same question :
Yes, but very slowly. Flash memory has a limited number of writes, usually in the order of 10^5 to 10^9. After that number of changes it become as read only, but it doesn't fail all at once, just some byte at once. Then that sector is marked as bad, backed up and ignored, so the memory still works, with a small reduction in capacity.
Newest flash memory file systems even do wear leveling, so writes are scattered over the whole memory, so that the memory lasts more.
Flash memory also have a definite lifespan due to electromagnetic noise and other kind of radiations. While this is a serious issue on space or other planets, memories on Earth are expected to last at least 20years.
Speakers and microphones wear down due to dust, humidity and loss of magnetic charge. Expect to need to change them after 20-50 years.
Camera sensors degrade due to light radiation. Hardware corrections automatically hide dead pixels. Unless you love to make timelapses of sun every day, this should not concern you. And even if you do you have noticeable effects only if you get raw images.
LCD has a definite lifespan before showing dead pixels. LCD TVs are rated for 4-10 years before some key component, but common faults for LCD TVs are not the screen or the pixels, but motherboard or power supply. Smartphone LCD should last much more, in part because they don't need electrolytic capacitors, and are lower powered. Some reviewer has pointed out that pixels lower brightness year after year, with noticeable effects on always on devices. The too dim to read thresold may be crossed after 10 years of normal use.
Also CPU degrades over time, but not with a noticeable effect unless you benchmark them. The main cause is the clock, that drifts over time.
Processors have negligible wear due to use, and lower the power is, lesser the stress on the circuit is.
Underclocking may extend the lifespan of the CPU, but it's more useful to save battery, rather than making the phone last more.
Overclocking, high temperature or voltage spikes can damage CPU. Once the processor is burnt, is gone, and must be replaced. Unfortunately just changing the CPU block is not feasible without damaging other parts.
CPU and RAM are on the same chip or soldered together in most smartphones, so if CPU burns you need to replace the whole motherboard.
RAM degrades like flash memory. When a bad sector of RAM is found it is marked as bad from the memory processor and ignored. On small RAM system a bad RAM read can cause an application to crash unexpectedly.
WiFi, GSM, GPS, Bluetooth radios are rated for 10 years of operation, but can last probably more. The failing cause is the driver IC, which includes a microprocessor and flash memory. Newest phones are highly integrated, so that IC could be bundled inside together with CPU, RAM and Flash.
Motherboard solder joints may break due to shocks or bending.
Battery of course is the component which degrades faster.
As an holistic analysis, most phones go out of service when they can warrant other 5-10 years of use. And even "broken" phones will live again with some inexpensive replacement. All components except motherboard and connectors fail gracefully, as they slowly degrade in performance, instead of stopping to work at all suddenly, so the phone ages well if it doesn't receive shocks, immersions,too much heat, massive radiation or fine dust.
Don't worry to use the phone in daily use, other technologies have more weak points.
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And this article seems pretty well written to explain the software / OS reasons why a phone seems to perform less well over time:
https://lifehacker.com/why-your-smartphone-seems-to-slow-down-as-it-ages-1798440451

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