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[Q] Internal, External SD card and moving apps + data

I searched about this but I don't really fully understand it yet:
I got an Samsung Galaxy S (rooted) and just bought an 16GB microSD for it and now want to move my apps from the internal phone space to the external SD card.
As far as I understand many of the "bigger" apps like games have two parts.. one executable part and then the data part.
On my /sdcard subfolder (thats the internal sd) for example I have many folders made by apps which include various data (sounds for games etc..).
I would like to move it ALL (the apps executables and the additional data) onto my external SD card (/sdcard/external_sd) - how do I do this and what do I need?
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My firmware is 2.2 JPO rooted. I understood so far that I need a program like app2sd to move (most) apps and with the ModInstallLocation App I could even get the rest to move over to the external SD right?
But what wonders me: I tried App2SD out for AngryBirds.. or rather used the built-in button in the application details - but still the external_sd folder was empty when I browsed it afterwards. Shouldn't there be something in there now that I moved the angrybirds?
And secondly - what happens with the data thats located in the /sdcard folder? Will those be moved to the /sdcard/external_sd folder automatically when I move an app to the SD or do I have to manually do it. If manually.. does simply moving it from /sdcard to /sdcard/external_sd work and the data is still found or does it get more complicated?
I'm sorry if this is a simple thing, I just want to make sure I fully understand how to move both the app itself and the data onto the external sd.
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And while I'm at it: Is it also possible to make backups with clockworkmod onto/from the external sd or only the internal? when I made my backups they all got stored in /sdcard/clockworkmod/backup folder.
Thanks for reading, hope someone can explain it to me quick or lead me to a place where its fully explained.

ok so I just noticed that the apps you move seem not to be "visible" on the sd-card but I noticed a change in the free space when I moved some around.
But will this "move" also include those files from the /sdcard (internal SD) directory to the external sd?

zroice said:
ok so I just noticed that the apps you move seem not to be "visible" on the sd-card but I noticed a change in the free space when I moved some around.
But will this "move" also include those files from the /sdcard (internal SD) directory to the external sd?
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I am wondering the same thing, but about the LG Optimus 2X Speed.
It has an internal SD card. If you mount your own SD it is mounted under //mnt/sdcard/_ExternalSD. How can I install apps to the external SD?

When programs are talking about moving apps to SD, they mean /mnt/sdcard (this is the /sdcard yo are talking about, /mnt/sdcard is its real path).
This means they move the apps from internal system access only memory (i.e. /data or /system) to the user accessable /mnt/sdcard/.
Only apps that are programmed to support this can be moved to /sdcard.
Sadly moving apps to /mnt/sdcard/external_sd (this is the actual SD card that you can remove) is not supported in android 2.2.

Dark3n said:
When programs are talking about moving apps to SD, they mean /mnt/sdcard (this is the /sdcard yo are talking about, /mnt/sdcard is its real path).
This means they move the apps from internal system access only memory (i.e. /data or /system) to the user accessable /mnt/sdcard/.
Only apps that are programmed to support this can be moved to /sdcard.
Sadly moving apps to /mnt/sdcard/external_sd (this is the actual SD card that you can remove) is not supported in android 2.2.
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Hi,
I know it's an old topic, but what's about android 2.3 or higher? Is it still impossible to move apps to the external SD?
Thanks,
Philippe

I think only custom ROMs like TYPHOON can do this even w/o support build in application. The best is using APP2SD and dont care where the applications are. I have more than 100APPs on my phone now :]

[Q] phone internal memory full. How to move apps to sd card ext. partition?

I have partitioned my sd card in ext. format for more space. And have the internal memory full but there is still a lot of space on the sd card ext. Partition for apps. I just want to move the apps from internal memory to this partition so that my apps work fine and i have my internal memory with free space.
The problem might seem easy to solve. Just by deleting or moving apps from internal memory, but for me its complicated because i don't know which apps are stored on the internal memory and the sd card partition for a2sd... In the apps storage all the apps are shown together without showing which is on the sd ext. partition and which on phone's internal memory. i don't know to move the apps from phone memory to sd card partitioned memory. Any help is appreciated
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Use app2sd from play store
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Either do as suggested above, or download ROM Toolbox and under App Manager, you can move apps to the SD card and set applications as system apps aswell.
''Evil corrupts the mind of the weak but fails to feed off the mind of the strong''

I tried them but my prob is i need to delete or move apps from internal memory... And when i delete any app there is more space freed on sd ext not internal memory. I need to know which apps are stored on the internal memory. Which i can't seem to know
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Hybrid data 2sd

Could someone please tell me how to use hybrid data2sd and what are the pros and cons of it
A detailed explanation would be preferred
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There are many threads about this subject,but i will explain. As you know our phone has a low internal memory problem and you can't install so many apps.You see every user app and data is stored in /data folder in internal memory.So developers found a trick to increase the internal memory.When you partitioned your sd card there will be a similar folder /data and it is linked with the internal memory /data all the data from there to the /data folder on sd card.Now the phone thinks that this folder is actually the internal memory and sends all the apps to the sd-ext.This is Data2SD. But the /data folder contains many folders...for app (/data/app) and for dalvik cache(/data/data) and with HYBRID DATA2SD you can choose which folder will go on sd-ext .It is recommended to only transfer /data/app on sd-ext because transfering the dalvik cache could slow down your phone.Hope that helped.Cheers

bsuhas said:
I will try to explain in simple lang....
On android OS, users applications and data is stored in /data folder (partition) in internal memory. Since g3 have less memory, it has restrictions on how many apps you can install and blah blah...
So out greate developers do a trick to increase internal memory.
When we have partitioned SD card, there in new partition, they create a similar folder stucture of /data. and link internal memorys /data to point to sd card data folder. This link is similar to a shortcut. Android OS thinks that the /data folder is there in internal memory and it reads and writes to it but actually that data goes to sd-ext partition and thus the size of internal memory dose not increases as you install apps. This is Data2SD
/data has many folder...majorly for app (/data/app) and for dalvic cache (/data/data). If you are not mounting entire /data to sd-ext, but selectively mapping each folder you want to sd-ext, then this is called HybridData2SD. For ex, I prefer app dir (/data/app) to be mounted on sd-ext but not the cache (/data/data). Cache should be on phone as its accessed so much and makes my phone lag If i put it on sd-ext.
hope this clears the concept.
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@OP, please search before posting.

artifex21 said:
There are many threads about this subject,but i will explain. As you know our phone has a low internal memory problem and you can't install so many apps.You see every user app and data is stored in /data folder in internal memory.So developers found a trick to increase the internal memory.When you partitioned your sd card there will be a similar folder /data and it is linked with the internal memory /data all the data from there to the /data folder on sd card.Now the phone thinks that this folder is actually the internal memory and sends all the apps to the sd-ext.This is Data2SD. But the /data folder contains many folders...for app (/data/app) and for dalvik cache(/data/data) and with HYBRID DATA2SD you can choose which folder will go on sd-ext .It is recommended to only transfer /data/app on sd-ext because transfering the dalvik cache could slow down your phone.Hope that helped.Cheers
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Where shall I refer to know how to partition sd card?
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@partition of the sd card is very easy.You can partition your card directly from cwm recovery or using a program called MiniTool.Be sure to backup your sd cards data...

Rashed CM10 Switching from Link2SD to S2E?

Is it possible to switch between the 2 programs without wiping? I am using an EXT4 partition and CM10 by Rashed

roadran322 said:
Is it possible to switch between the 2 programs without wiping? I am using an EXT4 partition and CM10 by Rashed
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No both these apps use different method to move to ext.Link2sd just creates symlinks and s2e actually mounts /data to /sd-ext.So if u try to switch u'll have to wipe data.

Just backup apps and app data ffirst
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My internal storage doesn't have enough space to store the apps on the SD Card...

roadran322 said:
My internal storage doesn't have enough space to store the apps on the SD Card...
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????

If I wanted to move from link2sd to s2e, would I have to move all my apps and data from my ext4 partition over to my system partition?

roadran322 said:
If I wanted to move from link2sd to s2e, would I have to move all my apps and data from my ext4 partition over to my system partition?
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Or u can move it to sd card by standard android app2sd.

How to get more internal storage?

I've moved as many apps (not system apps) to my sd card.
Will trimming my rom for some system apps i dont use help?
How else to get more internal storage? I only have 30mb left after moving apps to sd card

use link2sd it will save you space

androiddownloader said:
I've moved as many apps (not system apps) to my sd card.
Will trimming my rom for some system apps i dont use help?
How else to get more internal storage? I only have 30mb left after moving apps to sd card
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I use int2ext+ adds sdcard's ext partition to the internal.

Que rom utilizas
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androiddownloader said:
I've moved as many apps (not system apps) to my sd card.
Will trimming my rom for some system apps i dont use help?
How else to get more internal storage? I only have 30mb left after moving apps to sd card
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other people had pointed you to read some threads abouth O1, go there and find some answers
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2149636 in second post click content in shinobisoft signature and maybe it will answer this question, IF IT HAS HELPED YOU HIT THANKS TO HIM
THERE ARE ALOT OF APPS THAT ALOWS YOU TO MOVE DATA TO SD/EXT(not all working with all roms), SEARCH, FIND, READ CAREFULY, TRY THEM, THX THEM
some roms have built in d2ext from terminal emulator, read abouth your rom that are you using
but first you need to partition sd card to ext4, that will alow you to move apps and data to sd