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Feedback Needed From The Thunderbolt Community

If you recently purchased a Thunderbolt ....
You may be in the same boat as me, looking at rooting. Everyone is talking about gingerbread coming to our phones. I haven't seen an OTA as of yet, but it has leaked. located here->
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1225752
Now,
I know that you can root very easy here->
http://revolutionary.io/
and I would play close attention to this video as it provides detailed instructions ->
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UK_CiB2SYk
**WAIT**
Before you dive in, here comes my question.
If you have done your research, there are alot and I mean ALOT of roms to flash for the thunderbolt.
I would like some feedback as to what rom you have flashed.
This will help anyone new to the thunderbolt party as well as myself.
I have yet to make a decision on rooting or waiting.
Your feedback below please.
Thank you all in advance
And as ALWAYS,
Thank you to all the developers who are working there butts off !

I tried out team bamf first, but then they jumped ship to their own forum. So then droidtheory started releasing roms and jumped to him and haven't looked back.
He has a sense and aosp (cm7) version and also dhacker and xpack have released their own versions based off of droidtheory's work.
xpack's senseless rom is very nice. Has the sense base so gps and nfl network work right out of the gate, but no sense (adw launcher instead) so its fast and smooth.

nrfitchett4 said:
I tried out team bamf first, but then they jumped ship to their own forum. So then droidtheory started releasing roms and jumped to him and haven't looked back.
He has a sense and aosp (cm7) version and also dhacker and xpack have released their own versions based off of droidtheory's work.
xpack's senseless rom is very nice. Has the sense base so gps and nfl network work right out of the gate, but no sense (adw launcher instead) so its fast and smooth.
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You can't go wrong with DroidTh3orys ROMS.

Root. Now. That way you can make your choice when/if GB actually comes. You can always go back to stock unrooted. You may not be able to root with the new OTA.
Roms? Like many things they are a personal choice that no one can make for you. Having flashed them all, I can tell you they have improved dramatically since I got my bolt in May. If you choose to root, do yourself a favor and try several. You will find the Rom that suits your taste and needs.
courtesy of my bolt and tapatalk

I have flashed every possible ROM on my tobolt.
Sense Based: Gingeritis or Cl3anTh3ory
AOSP Based: ShiftAO5P
ofc imo

thisismalhotra said:
I have flashed every possible ROM on my tobolt.
Sense Based: Gingeritis or Cl3anTh3ory
AOSP Based: ShiftAO5P
ofc imo
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100% agree with this guy.

Us leaving XDA doesn't change anything about the quality of our roms. Fact is, many of our innovations end up in other roms anyway (ask ihtfp69 and erishasnobattery).
You can find us at teambamf.net, or rootzwiki.com.
There are many roms to choose from out there. Try them all, then decide.

Thank you all for your feedback. I made sure to click the Thank You buttons on all of your comments.
Once again thanks for the quick response. will be flashing later on today.
Im hoping this post may help some new Thunderbolt owners.

For sense based I like synergy but shift aosp is dope
Sent from my tbolt running ShiftAOSP

thisismalhotra said:
I have flashed every possible ROM on my tobolt.
Sense Based: Gingeritis or Cl3anTh3ory
AOSP Based: ShiftAO5P
ofc imo
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On what basis do you feel that ShiftAO5P is the best? I am not throwing stones and am just curious what makes this Rom stand out for you? Thanks!

I am using Luquid Gingersense v1.6 and I really like the sense 3.0 and Gingerbread look.

Lyondellic said:
On what basis do you feel that ShiftAO5P is the best? I am not throwing stones and am just curious what makes this Rom stand out for you? Thanks!
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**Every phone behaves differently just want to add this before anything.
Multiple reasons, first and foremost my phone behaved the best with ShiftAO5P. I had a very smooth running phone and an amazing battery life with all the bells and whistles turned on. I went from 4 am in the morning to almost 6 in the evening without a charge. I am a moderate to heavy user, my battery does not last that long EVER.
2nd, choices with the rom was amazing multiple governers, mulitple kernels you can try them all till you find the best combo.
3rd, support DT is very active on the forum so answers and issues are resolved very fast.

I have flashed almost every Rom for the TB.
My recs are
Sense: DroidTh3orys Sense Rome
AOSP: CM7 or Omfgb for those who like tweaks. TheRom for those who want a vanilla experience.
Sent from my Thunderbolt using XDA App

I'm currently running synergy and i really like it. It works flawlessly on my phone now. I'm considering switching to shift though just to get flash happy
Sent using my thumbs on my SwiftKey X neon keyboard, synergy ran TB.

thisismalhotra said:
**Every phone behaves differently just want to add this before anything.
Multiple reasons, first and foremost my phone behaved the best with ShiftAO5P. I had a very smooth running phone and an amazing battery life with all the bells and whistles turned on. I went from 4 am in the morning to almost 6 in the evening without a charge. I am a moderate to heavy user, my battery does not last that long EVER.
2nd, choices with the rom was amazing multiple governers, mulitple kernels you can try them all till you find the best combo.
3rd, support DT is very active on the forum so answers and issues are resolved very fast.
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Thanks for getting back to me on this. I will have to give ShiftAO5P a try.

I've been running dasBamf Roms for a month now and love them. I am currently on UberBamf PR3. every Tbolt is different, so experiment and see what works best for YOU. After you install each ROM, make a back up of it. That way, if you install one, that you don't like, you can revert.

I like a fast, customizable ROM without all the Sense bloat so I use Liquid Thundersense. I've only had this phone for 5 days so I really have no other Thunderbolt ROM to compare it to (I ran Gingeritis for a couple hours and the stock ROM only long enough to download Gingeritis to the device; I just hate Sense lol). As far as it goes though I've owned five Android devices total and have rooted and ran custom ROMs on all of them. Only way to go IMHO.
Sent from my Liquid Thunderbread HTC Thunderbolt

Dumb question, do you keep the camera effects with different roms. I really like the focal effect. Lol
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I can't say for sure, but I just checked mine, and it had all the camera effects in it.
Sent from my ADR6400L using XDA App

They all offer something different. I have tried almost all. It's hit and miss. What works for me might not work for you. Keep flashing you will find your liking.
Sent from my phone.

[Q] ICS 4.0.4 (Official OTA) is awesome. Which ROMs out there are actually better?

I've been really, really pleased with the official 4.0.4 for the i9020T. Aside from a couple negligible bugs, it's pretty close to perfect.
Has anyone messed with a ROM that's actually better than this?
Nexus S i9020T
T-Mobile

you can try this:
CyberGRv10

Try CM
I loved using CyberGR, but decided to switch back to CM. Really enjoying CM9. It has the feeling of a more cohesive rom than CyberGR. For example. the specific settings are where you'd expect them to be, rather than searching through a bunch of developer created menus.

I liked the stock 4.04. Before this, I tried many MIUI versions (both original and modified versions like stuffed crustand rocket fueled), nuhetri reloaded, nexus beam...and so on...
For me, MIUI is getting closer to perfect, but the stock ICS seems more smooth and the responsiveness when opening apps is better. I'm also using Steve Garon's kernel with 1.1 GHz , daily.
The only thing I'm missing is the lack of toggles attatched to the notifications bar.

Thanks for the input, guys.
One concern I have is whether rooting and flashing another ROM will mess up future OTA updates.... since I'm like 95% happy with the stock 4.0.4 I'm not sure I wanna risk it....

There are other threads where you can find stock roms. Don't be affraid and try something new! Now I'm using elivisto's IMM76D.
Sent from my Nexus S

Buddy wait for apex 1.1.0 I'm sure it will be great. But if u can't wait try cm9 for me I had issues with cybergr mod cuz it didn't have sleep toggle in notifications drawer and in cm9 v5 battery! Was really bad
Sent from my Nexus S using Tapatalk

homerograco said:
I liked the stock 4.04. Before this, I tried many MIUI versions (both original and modified versions like stuffed crustand rocket fueled), nuhetri reloaded, nexus beam...and so on...
For me, MIUI is getting closer to perfect, but the stock ICS seems more smooth and the responsiveness when opening apps is better. I'm also using Steve Garon's kernel with 1.1 GHz , daily.
The only thing I'm missing is the lack of toggles attatched to the notifications bar.
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You need to try MIUIXperience (I am using v1 since a like the icons). greatest MIUI ever!! Works like a charm ( except for the lockscreen)
Sent from my Nexus S using XDA

check this post. it contains an accurate benchmark of the most famous ICS roms for NS
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1481856
the results are:
#1st place: Pixel ROM 1.72
#2nd place: CyberGR-MOD|NS.NGN ICS v10 HYBRID
#3rd place: AOSP+ r3
#4th place: Stock ICS 4.0.4
#5th place: Brainmaster's stock 4.0.4
I myself use Pixel 1.72 and its the best I have ever tried. Coupled with Airkernel 3.9.5 BIGMEM, its very good

http://nerosnews.blogspot.de/2012/03/android-404-customer-and-stock-roms.html
... especially the small ics is awesome

havnt tried out stock 4.0.4, but i gotta say, aokp is FLAWLESS.

I've tried Pete's Bugless Beast and CyberGR v10.
Both very good and enjoying my ICS experience! I felt Bugless Beast was snappier with menus and widgets. However, I feel like CyberGR was more customizable and the kernel that came with the mod supported BLN (I know I can flash a different kernel but I like to use the ones that developers give me since its how they optimized it).
I have yet to try CM9 but will in the future.

cm 9 with reloaded mod. It's very snappy and feels complete and is a daily driver.
Sent from my Nexus S using Tapatalk

[Q] Whats the best ROM for i9020T

Dear friends,
I have Nexus S on t-mobile ICS 4.0.4, i would like to know which one is the best of best room for my phone.
I want a rom that i can count on and theme.
i have found two of theme here on site..
1) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1483033
2) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1425344
Which one can i use for my t-mobile i9020t

Well, everyone will like a different ROM. This is mostly a personal question and you will have to test a few before you decide which one you like more.
Bedalus benchmarks might tip the scale:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1481856
Now, if you ask me, I really like MIUIXperience since it offers nice theming over MIUI (loving Xperia launcher and other stuff). Haven't had any problems with it (except for some known bugs that the DEV is working on).

koush isnt making roms, not for the nexus s at least. you probably meant cm9, which is not koushes work. plus there are many more roms out in the dev section, some are more popular than the roms that you listed.

Where is Bugless Beast on poll!?
Like stated previously, it is all completely up to you. Just try them all until you find the one you like
I'll tell you about my experiences though with CyberGR v10 (previous ROM) and Bugless Beast (current ROM):
CyberGR was great but there were too may mods I didn't personally need. Also, different applications would lag at times like email, facebook, or even the T9 dialer (sometimes it would up to 5 seconds to pull up my dialer and contacts which was ultra annoying). I tried many different kernels and overclocking options but it still lagged or even rebooted. Thus I decided to change.
I switched to Bugless Beast and I am very happy with it as my daily driver. It is very simple mod and close to stock ICS and I just applied my own additional modifications to suit my needs like the kernel change to support BLN, BLD, and voodoo. This ROM is very snappy, has a great battery life, and everything works as far as I know even with my modifications.

May I ask, how do you edit the image files of a custom rom to remove few applications and change the language files
Sent from my Nexus S using XDA

Stock

What do you mean by stock?
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nullbesign said:
What do you mean by stock?
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stock is stock.....
It means the "factory" ROM...GB or ICS , exactly like released by Google..

Hi, does the factory rom or custom rom has long battery life?
Sent from my Nexus S using XDA

Why are ICS roms so popular

Hey everyone,
This isn't a technical question is an opinion question. Why are ICS roms so popular when there are so many things like native video recording and hardware acceleration are missing (do to drivers). I see that development is moving quickly with ICS yet Gingerbread has slowed way down. CM7 is still going strong but roms based on stock releases are, practically, dead. I just wanted to see what the opinions are in terms of switching over to ICS as opposed to using a fully functional rom.

ICS is what everyone wants, and wishes for. CM7 is about as good as its going to get (besides ironing out the kinks like BT and little things) stock is at its finest pretty much. Cm9 ICS is exciting and very nice looking. AOKP's customization possibilities are awesome give the phone a whole new look that make friends jealous (specifically iPhone friends lol).
Sent from my LG-P999 using xda premium

I haven't flashed an ICS ROM in months. I agree with you. I think it's just more of the mentality "latest and greatest" so people naturally go for it.
I don't want that, I want something that works. LG cam is freaking amazing and, even though I don't take much videos, the option is there with such clarity and ease.
I'll stick with gingerbread even if ICS is never fully functional because cm7 is already perfect for me.

ICS in my opinion performs much better than ginerbread.
Sent from my Lumia 900 using XDA Windows Phone 7 App

lovenokia said:
ICS in my opinion performs much better than ginerbread.
Sent from my Lumia 900 using XDA Windows Phone 7 App
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in what way, lol?

buru898 said:
I haven't flashed an ICS ROM in months. I agree with you. I think it's just more of the mentality "latest and greatest" so people naturally go for it.
I don't want that, I want something that works. LG cam is freaking amazing and, even though I don't take much videos, the option is there with such clarity and ease.
I'll stick with gingerbread even if ICS is never fully functional because cm7 is already perfect for me.
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I second this...latest and greatest but at the cost functionality...then they complain about things not working properly *sigh*
I'm using CM 7 and don't have any issues...I do flash kernels and am using faux's b5...pretty awesome...can't wait to try harshs CM 7 kernel
Sent from my LG-P999 using Tapatalk 2

Another GB CM7 user here. ICS is the latest & shiny toy, so everyone focuses on that. Almost all apps work on GB, and uses less resources. Plus since ICS & CM9 are more recent, there's more bugs to fix so the perceived "development" going on.
I do use ICS keyboard app & the ICS Roboto font, but don't like the low-contrast blue on black ICS color scheme.

buru898 said:
I haven't flashed an ICS ROM in months. I agree with you. I think it's just more of the mentality "latest and greatest" so people naturally go for it.
I don't want that, I want something that works. LG cam is freaking amazing and, even though I don't take much videos, the option is there with such clarity and ease.
I'll stick with gingerbread even if ICS is never fully functional because cm7 is already perfect for me.
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Exactly my thoughts!
Sent from my LG-P999 using xda premium

ics has support for multicore devices, gb doesnt. im pretty sure that the JIT has also been tweaked for better battery life. and its pretty haha.

itsnoahyo said:
ics has support for multicore devices, gb doesnt. im pretty sure that the JIT has also been tweaked for better battery life. and its pretty haha.
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Where are you getting this info? multicore support is mostly in the kernel and since both GB & ICS ROMs use the same kernel on G2x (except Harsh's 3.x), they all support Symmetrical Multi-Processors ('uname -a' shows 'SMP'). I'd like to see some performance numbers between GB & ICS, doubt they'll be much different.

itsnoahyo said:
ics has support for multicore devices, gb doesnt. im pretty sure that the JIT has also been tweaked for better battery life. and its pretty haha.
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It has the support, but is it available for our phone? And what's the point without gpu drivers.
Sent from my LG-P999 using XDA

http://www.xda-developers.com/android/interview-with-cyanogenmod-developer-ricardo-cerqueira/
Whyzor said:
Where are you getting this info? multicore support is mostly in the kernel and since both GB & ICS ROMs use the same kernel on G2x (except Harsh's 3.x), they all support Symmetrical Multi-Processors ('uname -a' shows 'SMP'). I'd like to see some performance numbers between GB & ICS, doubt they'll be much different.
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We have the jarvis kernel 3xxx and his updater/tweaking app for ics, but agree with you guys and the functionality of gingerbread/cm7. Don't forget to check out my interview with cm_arcee, link at top!
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mustangtim49 said:
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/interview-with-cyanogenmod-developer-ricardo-cerqueira/
We have the jarvis kernel 3xxx and his updater/tweaking app for ics, but agree with you guys and the functionality of gingerbread/cm7. Don't forget to check out my interview with cm_arcee, link at top!
[email protected]
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Thanks for the interview link, it's great to have a brief inside "peek" of the person behind the scenes.
Sent from my LG-P999 using xda premium

Currently I"m on stock 2.3.3.
but for the last couple months i have been on ics mostly for cosmetic reasons.
I enjoyed the new widgets and lock screen options.(Not face unlock)
I really haven't noticed a difference in speed. cm7 and stock are far more stable then any ics build i have used.
I'm actully back to stock now because i wanted to upgrade to the new bb. Probably going to stay this way until linaro gets integrated with hellfire sandwich.

ics
google put a lot of work into making ics a lot more polished, obviously they can't make the design appeal to everybody so the only way you can really tell if you will like it better than gb is to try it, I recommend the hellfire sandwich rom, it is by far the most stable and complete rom, and we are looking at linaro in the next build which means that it is 100% faster than stock android
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urfate said:
Currently I"m on stock 2.3.3.
but for the last couple months i have been on ics mostly for cosmetic reasons.
I enjoyed the new widgets and lock screen options.(Not face unlock)
I really haven't noticed a difference in speed. cm7 and stock are far more stable then any ics build i have used.
I'm actully back to stock now because i wanted to upgrade to the new bb. Probably going to stay this way until linaro gets integrated with hellfire sandwich.
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hellfire sandwich pg 502, hfs already supports new bb

I use stock rooted with the new baseband and its extremely stable
Sent from my LG-P999 using XDA

i too updated the baseband and love the new stock 2.3.4, but i also like running the latest cm7, everything just works (well except for BT right now LOL)
better battery life and video are the reasons i stay on GB, but i do love ICS and flash it all the time when someone releases a new version (Genesis and Eaglesblood are the ones i use)

in ICS i really like the chrome browser and task manager when you hold home. the rest is about the same but i get a little better battery with EB build2 and i just changed to HFS so hopefully it keeps the better battery.
there is also hardware support just not in the menu menu, flash and openGL are supported.

ics vs gingerbread?

hey, i have been running an ics rom for a while. Its been super laggy and i havnt had time to flash a new one. My reason for making this post is to ask whether or not the ics roms are stable and fast, or should i just use cm7 if im looking for a fast rom with great features. thankyou in advance.

There are different builds of ICS, like nightly and AOKP. You just gotta try and the different ones and see which ones you like best. Changing ROMs is all about preferences and what you feel comfortable with.

gregnetz18 said:
hey, i have been running an ics rom for a while. Its been super laggy and i havnt had time to flash a new one. My reason for making this post is to ask whether or not the ics roms are stable and fast, or should i just use cm7 if im looking for a fast rom with great features. thankyou in advance.
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After using Slim for the past few months, I would not go back to a non-ICS ROM (this ROM will probably influence my choice of the next phone I buy, i.e. I will make sure it's available on that device).

While I agree the SlimICS is very quick and runs fairly smoothly, it does lack in other departments. In order to have a slimmer and smother build they had to cut certain things. The main thing I noticed is not all languages are supported.

SlimICS has been the best experience of the ICS roms, or any rom for me. It's very fast, stable, and feature packed. I've had zero problems through the two different builds I've been using for the last week. I highly recommend it.
Sent from my Captivate using Tapatalk!

Thanks guys. I'm currently running cm7 again. But it sounds like I should definitely try the slim rom.
Sent from my SGH-I897 using xda premium

SlimICS is definitely worth the time investment to get it installed and running. I came from Cognition 4.5.x and my phone is running better than it ever has using any previous ROM I've tried (and I tried a lot of them!). Granted, my IMEI paid the ultimate price for using all those different ROMs (EFS folder wiped/corrupted), but I'll have that sorted out soon enough with any luck.
Can't say enough about Slim though, granted I didn't care for the Lightening launcher that's included. I am using the standard ICS launcher, which works fine and is plenty fast for me.

SlimICS or Nostalgia (SlimICS based) - runs faster than S3.
But I'm rooting my S3. So boajuicing comes...

Give AOKP a shot. I'm running it and love it.
Sent from my SGH-I897

I find that the CM9 ROM I use isn't always the fastest but the features pretty much balance it out when compared with Gingerbread.

ICS is fast and sleek, but I'll choose GB KK4 for the meantime until they fix the unsuccessful encryption bug on ICS. Still waiting though :silly:

I've never liked GB but then again, I didn't give it that much of a chance. I was extremely satisfied with di11igaf's Rom [2.2.1] on my Captivate, flashed to stock GB, then flashed immediately back.
Currently running TiramiSlim RC 2.0 [Based on SlimICS 3.9] after being somewhat of a crazy flash-aholic as far as ICS Roms are concerned. It is super-fast & extremely smooth.
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Samsung Captivate [SGH-I897]
ROM: TiramiSlim RC V 2
Kernel: Semaphore ICS 1.2.5sc
Modem: JVT