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Android OS killing ICS batt life?

So, one thing I've noticed when running through the various ICS ROMs and kernels is that regardless of rom or kernel, Android OS eats up battery at an alarming rate.
In my experience, it usually is eating more power than the screen, which just aint right. Now, I know these ROMs are at an early stage, but this is a common thing between all of them. I've noticed a few others noting it, but I think most are too excited about the new OS to notice the batt life.
Has anyone narrowed down what's going on? I'm curious....
**NOTICE TO FLAMERS**: This is not a post passing judgment on ICS. I'm simply asking if anyone's figured out what the issue is currently, or if anyone has solved it.

nickmv said:
So, one thing I've noticed when running through the various ICS ROMs and kernels is that regardless of rom or kernel, Android OS eats up battery at an alarming rate.
In my experience, it usually is eating more power than the screen, which just aint right. Now, I know these ROMs are at an early stage, but this is a common thing between all of them. I've noticed a few others noting it, but I think most are too excited about the new OS to notice the batt life.
Has anyone narrowed down what's going on? I'm curious....
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Don't form an opinion of ICS until you actually run an official rom, and not something someone hacked together from AOSP release from a different phone, and leaked dev binaries.
I see this happen too, on the rom i am running. but won't form an opinion until there are proper roms out.

my battery life is great. I get 15+ hours on mine with no issues at all.
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Luxferro said:
Don't form an opinion of ICS until you actually run an official rom, and not something someone hacked together from AOSP release from a different phone, and leaked dev binaries.
I see this happen too, on the rom i am running. but won't form an opinion until there are proper roms out.
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Jesus christ, I didnt form an opinion of ICS. You need to chill dude. Re-read my post. My post was an inquisitive one, because I recognize that it is some sort of bug or anomaly in EARLY CUSTOM BUILDS, as can be seen when I said "Has anyone narrowed down what's going on? I'm curious...."
There was no need for that....

it doesnt necessarily mean that the android os is using more battery. you can also look at it a different way.. maybe the screen is taking less battery. if the android os uses the same amount of power as always, but the screen uses less, the % battery used is going to go up for android os.

Yeah, but the likelihood of a hardware item suddenly using less power than it used to is certainly way less likely than an OS, software-level item.
I understand your theory on percentages, but as I'm sure you've noticed simms, something's draining the batt quickly, even on UV kernels, and I'm willing to bet it's OS related, and probably related to Android OS (in batt usage). I doubt this is the type of batt life we can expect with the official OTA, so I'm thinking something's running amuck.
My screen used 26%, while Android OS used 39%. In the past w/GB roms, it would have been more like screen 45%, Android OS 11-15%.

nickmv said:
Yeah, but the likelihood of a hardware item suddenly using less power than it used to is certainly way less likely than an OS, software-level item.
I understand your theory on percentages, but as I'm sure you've noticed simms, something's draining the batt quickly, even on UV kernels, and I'm willing to bet it's OS related, and probably related to Android OS (in batt usage). I doubt this is the type of batt life we can expect with the official OTA, so I'm thinking something's running amuck.
My screen used 26%, while Android OS used 39%. In the past w/GB roms, it would have been more like screen 45%, Android OS 11-15%.
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im just playing devils advocate, to try and see it from a different point of view. right now my screen is at 43% and android os is at 35%. normally my screen is around 51-57% and android os is around 7-11%. mind you, i am tethering at the moment also. but, the screen % is below what it normally is and the android os is much higher than it usually is. so something is definitely going on.
btw, in on the seuv kernel, and its doing alright on battery for me.

i am usingkoush v11 with Franco 26/11 kernel. Off charge at 9.30 am at 98%...5.30 pm 89%...very little usage today..just a couple of emails..but easily getting 15+ hours of battery life with WiFi my main usage including phone calls over WiFi.

My phone is turned on for 17 hours 38 minutes and still has 24% battery with brainmaster v5 + franco kernel

I've noticed this, too.
Last BM version drained my battery massively over night while being in flight mode.
Android OS took 87% of the battery in 8 hours.
So it's definitely a bug.
CM9 Alpha 11 is way better. In 18h 36m Android os 25%, android system 17% Display 15%.

Even though i appreciate the work the devs who are coming up with these ICS roms are doing, i can't use any of them as daily drivers (no flash/Google calender sync issues/performance is noticeably slow e.t.c). Played with Koush's version the other day and was mighty impressed, very. I'm still not sold on the whole ICS look in general, might take a while to get used to it. Seems too fluffy to me, too much eye candy. Battery life wasn't the best, but manageable.
Right now i'm on Oxygen+Carbon rom mix with Franco kernel, and OMG this combo is phenomenal regarding performance and battery life..

my battery life is the same, if not a tad better.. using kwiboos v2.

nickmv said:
Jesus christ, I didnt form an opinion of ICS. You need to chill dude. Re-read my post. My post was an inquisitive one, because I recognize that it is some sort of bug or anomaly in EARLY CUSTOM BUILDS, as can be seen when I said "Has anyone narrowed down what's going on? I'm curious...."
There was no need for that....
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You're the one that needs to chill. There was no reason to take my reply the way you did. I was just stating facts before people start rumors about ICS being a battery killer.
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Esteway.619 said:
my battery life is great. I get 15+ hours on mine with no issues at all.
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Same here. No custom kernel, no tweaks, no trickery - running Koush's V10 out of the box. Runs smooth, quick, and I go from dawn to dusk on one charge with lots of browsing, app installs, etc.

Luxferro said:
I was just stating facts before people start rumors about ICS being a battery killer.
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With all due respect, "Don't form an opinion of ICS until you actually run an official rom " is not a statement of fact, it is your opinion/emotional response based upon you misunderstanding of my post. I clearly acknowledged that we were working with early builds, so this is obviously not what the final product should be.
The purpose of this general forum is to have general discussions, and troubleshooting posts. I made a troubleshooting post, seeking out others experiencing the same thing, in an attempt to solve the issue, or see if the culprit has been found.
I will admit that I overreacted a bit, but I think you did the same.
I'm gonna leave it at that, otherwise this'll turn into a flame war.

Braneless said:
Same here. No custom kernel, no tweaks, no trickery - running Koush's V10 out of the box. Runs smooth, quick, and I go from dawn to dusk on one charge with lots of browsing, app installs, etc.
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I'm curious: check your batt usage. Do you see Android OS almost equal, if not higher in batt usage than the screen?
Now remember, on phones, the screen is the biggest power drain for anyone other than a light user (never turns on screen, makes 1 call a day, etc). Typically, in my usage (usually 25-30% brightness), the screen takes anywhere from 40-50% of my batt life thru the day, with Android OS way down the list. That was Gingerbread.

Android OS 38%
Display 29% (brightness at 12%)
Miren Browser 17%
Cell Standby 9%
74% remaining
8hrs 44min on battery
Sorry, my native screen cap won't save to disk, otherwise I'd upload it.
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Braneless said:
Android OS 38%
Display 29% (brightness at 12%)
Miren Browser 17%
Cell Standby 9%
74% remaining
8hrs 44min on battery
Sorry, my native screen cap won't save to disk, otherwise I'd upload it.
Sent from my Nexus S 4G using XDA App
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Yeah, I figured it'd be way up there. Now, I'm not saying batt life is BAD. I still can get a good 15-20h out of it if I dont use it much. But I'm used to going 24-36 hrs without having to charge, all with medium usage. I've tried various UV kernels to achieve this again, but Android OS is dominating the battery.

My battery is actually good. I am on cm9 alpha 11 on franciscofranco's kernel. It lasted more than 24 hours on medium use.
more than 24 hours is already good for a smartphone.
ICS look in general, might take a while to get used to it. Seems too fluffy to me
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yep. My first impressions for it were the same, too much eye candy and too much things going on the screen. Maybe I was just used to the very simple and minimalistic UI of the stock gingerbread. But after using it for a day.I am beginning to realize how amazing and beautiful ICS is.

Yes Android OS is top for me at 45% and on GB ROM it was 4-5%. Batt life ain't too bad but I think the Android OS usage is just something that will get sorted as the development moves forward, especially after the official update drops.
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Background: I have had phone 11 months. I am very familiar with how the battery drain is while it is stock (WiFi ON all the time). battery lasted ~16h which is plenty for me.
Rooted phone, Battery Life on AR14 and IceColdSandwich (and others) was around 20h with WiFi on all the time and light use.
Recent Kernels (anything IceColdSandwich 3.0.0+ or AR 23+ (haven't tested between 14 and 23) cause a base of around 50mA of drain even when phone is locked. Battery life is ~8-10hours WITH NO USE. I have tried these ROMs without installing ANYTHING on them with the same results.
Current Widget does not identify an offending program from what I can tell.
WiFi off, the phone lasted 2d9hr of pretty light use.
I first started looking into WiFi when I forgot to turn off airdroid and unplugged the phone for 3 hours. I found AirDroid still running but could not connect to it via laptop or desktop until I tinkered with the phone a bit more and the WiFi connection cycled.
However during this time, the charge lost on the battery was a reasonable rate, and after the WiFi connection cycled it dropped like the usual rock.
What I've tried:
WiFix
WiFi polling interval increase
Cleaning/checking battery cover contacts
Changing battery covers
Battery Calibration (which is a myth from other reading I've done)
A couple of different programs like Juice Defender.
On the list to do:
Try a different Kernel
Root my friend's phone and trade him hardware (he says he never uses WiFi, so it won't be an issue for him)
/wrists
Thanks for all the suggestions and help so far. I understand that the problem is pretty obscure and seems rare.

on icecoldsandwich ive seen quite a few people show an improved battery draining using lordmods newer bfs kernel. maybe give that a try and report back?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1450962
kernel: http://goo.gl/ZqBZl
btw, very good informative question. its heart warming usually we get 'my battery sucks yo, fix it!' haha

Here is some irony.
Exitz ICS AR25 has been on the phone for a couple of days and has lost essentially 10% per hour when not on the charger (been off work in my house) After the 4th day, I installed AirDroid and AngelCamera. I took it off the charger last night...
92% 6 hours later AND the phone has been awake(?) all night...
Seems I left AirDroid 'running' but couldn't connect to the phone through AirDroid until after the WiFi cycled...
I will see how the drain is today. I'll out of the house all day tomorrow (half a day in Denver), toggle off the wifi for a day at home, and then try your suggestion Darunion.
Here are a few screen shots (first two are old), and honestly, I don't know how much I trust the battery stats.
IceColdSandwich 2.0.0 pretty much shows that battery life I have been used to for a long time including before rooting. Not AMAZING, but not fail. (WTF Proximity Recaibrator 29% of Drain on a 16 hour day?) Also note this is about the same rate of drain I experienced with Existz AR14 last week. Light use and ~16-19 hours of battery life. Not amazing, but I can live with it.
IceColdSandwich 3.0.0 pretty much shows the battery life I have been getting with any ICS roms since.. well 3.0.0 was released. Oh and the voice call that is 37% of drain lasted less than 10 minutes.
Existz AR25 (someofthedrain.png) the steep drop was a 20 minute phone call...
And Finally Airdroidwtf.png is the same install three nights later (this morning) If I could get battery drain like THIS on a regular basis...
Anyway, I'll keep trying to isolate this down to the specific 'area' of the phone that is causing it....
Edit: and as for Darunion commenting about the information I've included... I'm a patient person, I don't want to be a drain on the community, and I have no issue trying to solve a ROM, APP, Radio, RIL, Or watever issue. I'm only posting because the issue isn't unique to a ROM but is unique to a time frame AND the issue is not solveable via Google or XDA search

Right now it is looking like the 'extra' drain on newer ROMs is directly related to the wireless being on*.
Right now the phone is at 1day 19 hours with 14% left and the wireless was only on for the first couple of hours this charge cycle.
I never thought there would be such a considerable difference between battery usage on any ROMs.
I'm going to continue looking around and trying to solve things, and I haven't quite made it to trying the Kernel, Darunion. It is on the list after I toggle WIFI on and off throughout a day.
*The rest of this post is just back-story I have ran the phone on stock for 11 months before rooting it and during that time, I got used to leaving the WIFI running all the time simply because the battery always lasted through my longer days and my-typical light-use. I'm near WIFI that my phone connects to about 80% of the time.
So after rooting, I had a little increase in battery life and I never changed this habbit, or more to the point, I was leaving WIFI on as to make it one less variable in drain while testing various ROMs and different build dates.

Wulamoc said:
Right now it is looking like the 'extra' drain on newer ROMs is directly related to the wireless being on*.
Right now the phone is at 1day 19 hours with 14% left and the wireless was only on for the first couple of hours this charge cycle.
I never thought there would be such a considerable difference between battery usage on any ROMs.
I'm going to continue looking around and trying to solve things, and I haven't quite made it to trying the Kernel, Darunion. It is on the list after I toggle WIFI on and off throughout a day.
*The rest of this post is just back-story I have ran the phone on stock for 11 months before rooting it and during that time, I got used to leaving the WIFI running all the time simply because the battery always lasted through my longer days and my-typical light-use. I'm near WIFI that my phone connects to about 80% of the time.
So after rooting, I had a little increase in battery life and I never changed this habbit, or more to the point, I was leaving WIFI on as to make it one less variable in drain while testing various ROMs and different build dates.
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I was on battery for around 13 hours yesterday with wifi on for at least 8 hours of that and plugged my phone in with 51% battery remaining.

ST3ALTHPSYCH0 said:
I was on battery for around 13 hours yesterday with wifi on for at least 8 hours of that and plugged my phone in with 51% battery remaining.
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Yeah, I know this isn't a typical issue for most everyone, and am not implying so.
Likely it will end up being something very specific to the two WIFI networks I am at for 80% of the time OR something else that is very specific to my circumstances.

Wulamoc said:
Yeah, I know this isn't a typical issue for most everyone, and am not implying so.
Likely it will end up being something very specific to the two WIFI networks I am at for 80% of the time OR something else that is very specific to my circumstances.
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Have you, by chance, removed and reinstalled your back covers? I know it's unlikely, but since they contain the antennae, maybe they've come a little loos, resulting in higher imepedence connections.

ST3ALTHPSYCH0 said:
Have you, by chance, removed and reinstalled your back covers? I know it's unlikely, but since they contain the antennae, maybe they've come a little loos, resulting in higher imepedence connections.
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I have not specifically toyed with the covers as part of trouble shooting. I will be sure that I look at them after my battery finishes charging on WIFI.
It does seem to be more a software difference, (I've casually be at this for the better part of 2 months) as I have seen expected performance when flashing back to a ROM I've used.
Thanks, I like being able to limit variables and this will be one I check before charging the phone again.
(What I'd really love to do is convince my brother or one of two friends who have the Inspire 4g to let me root their phones so I can trade them phones for a week and really isolate out hardware issues

fyi if you are still running icecoldsandwich. 6.2 just was released. Maybe give that a try?

Darunion said:
fyi if you are still running icecoldsandwich. 6.2 just was released. Maybe give that a try?
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Right now, I'd like to figure out WHY my WiFi is so bad on battery drain with later AOKP releases.
I'll try to rule out hardware issues (I'll look into antenna and MAYBE convince a friend to let me root their phone and trade them for a week... if not then covers at least.)
But likely this is something about newer releases and how my WIFI is setup. I don't live in a high-density area, so it's not because of too much wifi trafficz (I can barely see a 2nd wifi with any device and it's on the opposite end of the frequency choices.... by my settings)
Anyway, I am a very patient person, so I'll continue working on this slowly so that I can be thorough and find the real cause of the problem.
What I would wish is for someone to point me in the direction as to how WiFi MIGHT drain the battery so hard for later releases but not earlier. I'll be reading up more on logcat and how to read it in regards to wifi... but searching and reading is hard because 'wireless' and what not are very vague terms
Now at 1% (still) and 2d9h... is MORE than double my record on the first roms I tried after rooting OR my stock rom. and MORE than quadruple my record on any of the newer roms

I've swapped battery covers with a friend this past weekend, and the WiFi being on still drains the phone considerably (~8%/hr) when turned on. So if it's a hardware issue, it's not in the battery cover.

Wifi and blue tooth are very hard on the battery regardless. But 8% an hour seems pretty steep tho.
I would start by getting the current widget in Google market and put in on your home screen to monitor your Mili-volt ussage. If its running high like the 200+ constantly you have a lot of drain going on. When in sleep mode it should drop down to 0mv up to 8mv. If it stays high in the sleep mode you have apps waking your phone from sleeping. Which causes tremendous drain.
Next I'd try removing apps that have wifi permissions. To see if that drops your mv ussage.
Drop your notifications to less frequent times on your email and Facebook.
Remove any task managers or juice defender. They run constantly.
Google + is a massive battery drainer. Remove or limit notifications and sync as much as possible.
Also running wifi fix apk could also help. If you are knowledgeable enough you could also edit the build.prop to set the wife scan at a less frequent rate as well.
Last but not least get a toggle button widget for wifi and turn it off when not using.
I'd you follow these steps this will drasticly decrease your battery drain.
Sent from Soundwave aboard Nemesis.

dj sampson said:
Wifi and blue tooth are very hard on the battery regardless. But 8% an hour seems pretty steep tho.
I would start by getting the current widget in Google market and put in on your home screen to monitor your Mili-volt ussage. If its running high like the 200+ constantly you have a lot of drain going on. When in sleep mode it should drop down to 0mv up to 8mv. If it stays high in the sleep mode you have apps waking your phone from sleeping. Which causes tremendous drain.
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Thanks for taking the time for this response!
I started by running current widget for about a week and with a 3 different roms AR23(?), IceColdSandwich 2.0.0, IceColdSandwich 3.0.0.
I was stock for 11 months, and ICS2.0.0 was a little better than battery drain than stock. AR23 and ICS3.0.0 were terrible and pretty much ran a constant 50ma drain asleep or awake as a baseline.
I'd really like to figure out what the difference is with the older AOKP and the newer AOKP, but that may never happen.
Next I'd try removing apps that have wifi permissions. To see if that drops your mv ussage.
Drop your notifications to less frequent times on your email and Facebook.
Remove any task managers or juice defender. They run constantly.
Google + is a massive battery drainer. Remove or limit notifications and sync as much as possible.
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I've been testing with stock roms since a couple weeks before I posted this thread. This is because current widget didn't really show any specific program causing the issue, so I wanted to make sure that I didn't have some issue from my installed programs.
The most I've installed (out of necessity is AirDroid and AngelCamera) in the past few weeks. Both were installed when I ran without wifi on one charge for 2d9hrs.
(I don't have a google+ account, I don't have juice defender or any task managers aside from the stock rom)
Also running wifi fix apk could also help. If you are knowledgeable enough you could also edit the build.prop to set the wife scan at a less frequent rate as well.
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I'll do this and see if that helps things. Thank you
Last but not least get a toggle button widget for wifi and turn it off when not using.
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This is likely going to have to be my solution. Just run cell data all the time unless I am doing something specific like downloading files or uploading pictures.
OR
Maybe I can convince my friend to let me trade him phones (root his and nand backup and then restore all his stuff to my phone) and see if it is about the same drain. His phone was bought a couple months after mine AND from a different vendor, so it isn't going to be out of the same manufacturer's lot.
I'd you follow these steps this will drasticly decrease your battery drain.
Sent from Soundwave aboard Nemesis.
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Thanks again. I'll definitely try the wifix along with the rest of your suggestions that apply

I'm in the same boat you are. I'm running ics aospX ar-26 and I can barely get mine to last from 8 til 4. Wifi is pretty prevelent around here and I leave it on most of time. I guess I could try turning it off til I need it. Anyway I'll be following this thread.
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You also might consider reading the threads on calibrating battery after flashing roms. I made the mistake of flashing a rom @ 40% battery. It jacked my stats all up. The new rom thought 40% battery was actually 100%. It had my stats all screwed up too. Except mine was Bluetooth. Showed running at 60% of battery ussage. So don't trust that system tool. Because the display is almost alway gonna be the biggest drain on the battery. An app called "spare parts" is a little more accurate.
I ran the gambit on this one finnally got my battery back to normal for me anyway. I've never seen a full days use with out charging. Get about 14 hours Max now. But the calibration steps is the way to go.
Sent from Soundwave aboard Nemesis.

dj sampson said:
You also might consider reading the threads on calibrating battery after flashing roms. I made the mistake of flashing a rom @ 40% battery. It jacked my stats all up. The new rom thought 40% battery was actually 100%. It had my stats all screwed up too. Except mine was Bluetooth. Showed running at 60% of battery ussage. So don't trust that system tool. Because the display is almost alway gonna be the biggest drain on the battery. An app called "spare parts" is a little more accurate.
I ran the gambit on this one finnally got my battery back to normal for me anyway. I've never seen a full days use with out charging. Get about 14 hours Max now. But the calibration steps is the way to go.
Sent from Soundwave aboard Nemesis.
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I actually have read quite a bit about battery calibration... and before I flashed a new ROM, I've made sure that current widget has been tracking 0ma for a while. (Only reliable way to be sure you have a full battery from what I can tell)
The batterystats.bin file and calibration has been ... contended in a number of places, mostly stating that when taken off the charger 'full' the battery stats file is overwritten... which makes calibration a non-issue (assuming that you occasionally charge your phone for a while after it hits 100% from time to time)
The problem is that the WiFi mA draw is HUGE compared to what it should be (in theory from reading other people's logs), and it's not because of the battery cover. AND It's not as bad in older AOKP ROMs than it is in newer ones. SO it could be a hardware issue exacerbated by a change in how WiFi is handled, but the hardware issue was never noticed because the battery life Stock was sufficient for my needs.
I've been busy working so I haven't been able to continue troubleshooting the phone (damn my patience), but Mondayish, I'll likely have traded my phone with a friend and root it and flash a new rom and see how the drain is with completely different hardware from a different vendor from a different lot of phones.

I had a similar issue with wifi. I changed the build.props wifi supliment scan from every 15 seconds to 180 and used the wifi fix manager apk. That seemed to help. Coupled with a proper battery calibration and I'm back to my display being the major battery draw.
So don't know if that helps but it seemed to work out my bugs.
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This I can do right now.. and given I'm on the same, unmodified AR24 release, I can observe it for the weekend before I annoy my friend about his phone.
Seems the WiFi scan interval was already set to 100... moved it to 180 anyway.

I used to have this issue. I could literally see my battery draining while I was using it. I keep wifi on most of the time. I recently purchased an anker battery online. It is AMAZING! My old battery wouldn't last more than 6 hours or so. Right now I'm at about 14 hours on this charge, and I'm at 47 percent. Try swapping his battery for yours for a day or two. Another thing to try is different radios if you're losing power to cell standby.
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DynamiteRave said:
I used to have this issue. I could literally see my battery draining while I was using it. I keep wifi on most of the time. I recently purchased an anker battery online. It is AMAZING! My old battery wouldn't last more than 6 hours or so. Right now I'm at about 14 hours on this charge, and I'm at 47 percent. Try swapping his battery for yours for a day or two. Another thing to try is different radios if you're losing power to cell standby.
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The phone ran for 2days 9hours with WiFi off and lasts for 8-10 hours with WiFi on. I am pretty sure that it's not a Radio/RIL or a Battery capacity issue. ;(

JB battery drain?

Hi there,
is someone having high battery drain with JB? Haven't updated yet but I read some posts about massive screen battery usage.. thanks!

My battery is draining so fast since I've updated to JB ... I'm thinking of downgrading to ICS

No problems here. I have updated from 4.0.4 to 4.1.1 through Clockworkmod recovery.

The phone is getting so hot and the battery is quickly drained :'(
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Mine is good actually, very good. Same as ics.
Using doublex rom btw
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semprom said:
No problems here. I have updated from 4.0.4 to 4.1.1 through Clockworkmod recovery.
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Same. And my 4.0.4 install was relatively clean (had flashed the original factory images and only installed very few apps)

In ics i have some drain, here in Jelly Bean and dont have for now, see if Not is a app draining, Because isnt optimize for the New system..

Compared to stock ICS I have some battery drain in stock JB. Battery stats say it's the screen. I have model i9023.
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I've been on JB for about 24 hours, having the same (if not higher) use of the phone, and it seems that there's no "big drain" at all.

No drain at all for me.

For me its good... almost 17 hrs n still 31% battery with 2 hrs of screen on (mostly browsing).
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It's not JB that cause the battery drain but the new features that come with it.
The biggest single cause of battery drain is Google Now. Why?
- it causes Maps/Location services to be running at all times (20 % total battery drain in my case)
- it causes Google calendar to be running almost all the time
- etc
tl;dr; With Google Now enabled expect battery time to drop by 1/3.

Phone getting hot is usually a rouge app, but if you're actually using the phone, the screen will ALWAYS be your top consumer of battery. No way around it.

My screen is using up a lot more battery than on 4.0.4. Just checked my battery now, after being off the charger for 2 hours and Maps has been eating up battery. Mine also gets quite hot when using it. After some mildly heavy use last night, it slowed down to a crawl.
I'm sure Google Now is helping to use a lot of battery too. Isn't this always the way it goes anyway? I had the reboots during a phone call on GB, etc. It takes a couple updates for them to get it just right. Hope 4.1.2 doesn't take too long.

Etyl said:
It's not JB that cause the battery drain but the new features that come with it.
The biggest single cause of battery drain is Google Now. Why?
- it causes Maps/Location services to be running at all times (20 % total battery drain in my case)
- it causes Google calendar to be running almost all the time
- etc
tl;dr; With Google Now enabled expect battery time to drop by 1/3.
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I came to the same conclusion; however I have disabled Google Now (since it is not well supported in my country) and Latitude (that has been enabled following the update) but still, battery is draining ...
As someone said earlier, battery seems to be the same while in sleep mode; but when you're using the phone it's a disaster compared to ICS.

Yeah. More than likely Google Now, but what do people expect? It's feature heavy! I for one use Autostarts(root only) for Maps and a few others that like to just fire up for some random action taken by the user. I used GN for a bit but I don't find myself ever really using it on a daily basis.

absolutely NO drain here!

Turn off Google Now.
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chronophase1 said:
Yeah. More than likely Google Now, but what do people expect? It's feature heavy! I for one use Autostarts(root only) for Maps and a few others that like to just fire up for some random action taken by the user. I used GN for a bit but I don't find myself ever really using it on a daily basis.
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I wasn't expecting anything besides being able to CASUALLY use my phone during the day, at least send a few text messages before battery dies, which seems to be impossible since the update.

I haven't actually used my phone normally yet, but what type of life are you expecting out of the phone? If you're clearing 10 hours, I'd say that's good territory. Is your phone being constantly held awake? Just crying battery drain without giving any details won't help us help you determine the issue. This phone has never had what I would call great battery management for what my usage pattern has always been. Post a screenshot of your next usage pattern and maybe I or somebody else can help you.

Battery Life on Infuse: Gingerbread vs Ice Cream Sandwich

Hi, so I recently got an Infuse from someone that is still on Froyo and I figure I might as well upgrade to a custom rom.
Since I care about battery life the most, I figure I would ask which version of Android provides the best battery life for the Samsung Infuse: Gingerbread or Ice Cream Sandwich.
I probably won't be running apps that fetch/push for data a whole lot, which obviously helps the battery life. But I thought I'd ask to get someone's opinion on this specific phone and a comparison between Gingerbread vs ICS before picking a rom.

And the winner is... Gingerbread!
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abc617 said:
Hi, so I recently got an Infuse from someone that is still on Froyo and I figure I might as well upgrade to a custom rom.
Since I care about battery life the most, I figure I would ask which version of Android provides the best battery life for the Samsung Infuse: Gingerbread or Ice Cream Sandwich.
I probably won't be running apps that fetch/push for data a whole lot, which obviously helps the battery life. But I thought I'd ask to get someone's opinion on this specific phone and a comparison between Gingerbread vs ICS before picking a rom.
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Gingerbread is a better battery saver. Although i get decent battery on ics and jellybean. I know i perfer all that ics/jb has to offer in features over having battery life. But for what your asking id suggest AEON or the stock gb. Aeon is very stable and has some cool extras without much battery drain
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andros11 said:
And the winner is... Gingerbread!
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Really? I got faaar better battery life on Scott's Paranoid Android ICS build than I EVER did for any Gingerbread rom...

Honestly, I don't even remember by now
I have never payed that much attention to battery life..
usually lasts all day for me on JB, that's all I need
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the more recent ics and jelly bean kernels get great battery life due to fixed bt and wifi drivers (the wifi driver and binary were taken from another device from what i understand) and more stable cpu clock code than it had initially. not too much more than stock but i have to say it is better for me. but i guess it all depends on usage. one may have better standby vs awake battery life or something. the available kernels have been this way for atleast a month. when we start to see more kernels with undervolt it should get better yet.

I'm using CM10 8/23 and my battery life is good.
One of the best I even made a snapshot (can't upload right now): 51% left after 12 hours 46 minutes.

That's why I'm in a dilemma between jelly bean and gingerbread. I do appreciate JB a lot, way better functions. But still the battery life and compatibility are big issues. I can get 2 days under gb but only less than 12 hours in JB, that's a big issue.

I have been getting great battery life with the latest JB ROMs I have been using. Pretty much on par with the GB ROMs I used.
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Can't say i've had good luck with battery life, I used to average 3 hours of screen on time in Gingerbread, but since moving to ics/jb that has dropped to anywhere from 30 mins (if i leave the phone and standby drain eats it) to 1 hour 45 mins on a single charge...not good.
No rogue apps, no media scanner (i constantly check these things with betterbatterystats, i don't install anything i didn't install on gingerbread). Just the cell phone standby drain eating my battery alive (BBS reports it as GTALK_ASYNC and RILJ wakelocks).
I've been researching it for months now and get various answers (the wakelocks are caused by bad APN settings for example), tried all the fixes, still no luck. I suspect that it's probably a Rogers thing but who knows.

threi_ said:
Can't say i've had good luck with battery life, I used to average 3 hours of screen on time in Gingerbread, but since moving to ics/jb that has dropped to anywhere from 30 mins (if i leave the phone and standby drain eats it) to 1 hour 45 mins on a single charge...not good.
No rogue apps, no media scanner (i constantly check these things with betterbatterystats, i don't install anything i didn't install on gingerbread). Just the cell phone standby drain eating my battery alive (BBS reports it as GTALK_ASYNC and RILJ wakelocks).
I've been researching it for months now and get various answers (the wakelocks are caused by bad APN settings for example), tried all the fixes, still no luck. I suspect that it's probably a Rogers thing but who knows.
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did you try cm9?

qkster said:
did you try cm9?
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Yup, it's all been the same since ICS, I absolutely cannot get acceptable battery life, no matter what i do.

threi_ said:
Yup, it's all been the same since ICS, I absolutely cannot get acceptable battery life, no matter what i do.
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are you getting AOS drain while on wifi?
you may consider a factory reset and sdcard format
when you reinstall, decline all google locations and backup services.

qkster said:
are you getting AOS drain while on wifi?
you may consider a factory reset and sdcard format
when you reinstall, decline all google locations and backup services.
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I have done a factory reset, i formatted my sd card not too long ago (I also suspected this)
I also make sure google locations is disabled, never keep backup enabled (i did once by mistake and the auto restore nearly killed all my monthly data)
I am going to toggle wifi tonight and set a marker in BBS, i'll check the drain overnight (I did this a while ago and it did improve standby drain somewhat, but I am going to try it again)

threi_ said:
Can't say i've had good luck with battery life, I used to average 3 hours of screen on time in Gingerbread, but since moving to ics/jb that has dropped to anywhere from 30 mins (if i leave the phone and standby drain eats it) to 1 hour 45 mins on a single charge...not good.
No rogue apps, no media scanner (i constantly check these things with betterbatterystats, i don't install anything i didn't install on gingerbread). Just the cell phone standby drain eating my battery alive (BBS reports it as GTALK_ASYNC and RILJ wakelocks).
I've been researching it for months now and get various answers (the wakelocks are caused by bad APN settings for example), tried all the fixes, still no luck. I suspect that it's probably a Rogers thing but who knows.
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i do notice battery drain in some areas. but not others. some people seem to think certain modems are effecting the cell standby drain, not sure myself. but there are many compatible modem.bins to try from att and t-mobile(t959v)

Just an update: wifi didn't help much.

threi_ said:
Just an update: wifi didn't help much.
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I've been playing around a bit with different gb kernels, odex and deodex.
I found the drain issue much less on stock uclb3 kernel and rfs file system.
Almost all drain were associated with being on wifi...wakelocks and something else kills the battery.
If I have wifi off, there is usually not any issue.
You may have to play around a bit to see. My experience on cm9 and cm10 has been limited. I have noted several users noticing drain on cm9 and cm10 as well.
To avoid drain:
1. Use it to the max and constantly.
2. Leave the phone on airplane mode when not in use.
3. Turn off data (wifi and mobile data) and background data when not in use. I use this last mode.

Thanks for the tips man :good:
Airplane mode of course makes batt life better (disabling data doesn't), but when I start having to make sacrifices I didn't have to on GB it becomes a problem for me. Why should I jump through hoops and gimp my convenience for battery life that still isn't even as good as GB?
Instead of that i'd rather try to find the root cause of the problem. Doing so then allows us to help others that may have the same problem.
It definitely is an issue with the radio (or rather CM code overlooking something concerning the radio). What exactly, i'm not too sure. I've tried different modems as well, UCLB3 on JB was awful for battery life, UCKL2 and UXKG3 are slightly better but still not that great.
I don't want to complain about these things, I always try to research first, but damn....i'm stumped.

threi_ said:
Thanks for the tips man :good:
Instead of that i'd rather try to find the root cause of the problem. Doing so then allows us to help others that may have the same problem.
I don't want to complain about these things, I always try to research first, but damn....i'm stumped.
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Yeah, I agree with you there. The techniques I use is pretty simple. Pose the hypothesis. Start with a full deck and slowly eliminate or start minimal and add.
ex: flash jb without gapps; without microSd. try different modem; try a different kernel. different kernel from different build.
have to use it for a few days to find out.
do the same for cm9.
add gapps...
add microsd
etc..
at some point, you will find out contributing factors.
There are a few battery thread that may be helpful if you havent looked:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1408433&page=9

Ryo Misaki said:
Really? I got faaar better battery life on Scott's Paranoid Android ICS build than I EVER did for any Gingerbread rom...
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This is true, and you can save battery life w/ customization and now Scott is up to JB being one of the best battery life roms I've run
or just turn down your screen brightness

[Q] Verizon S3 w/ CM 10 Battery Issues

Hello,
I got my (Verizon) Samsung Galaxy S3 two days ago, and rooted and flashed it with the CM 10 Nightly builds after a couple of hours of using touchwiz. Everyone has been saying that they are getting more out of their battery with CM 10, but my experience hasn't been too good. I am getting maybe 9 hours of battery with normal use. When I got the phone I run it down to 10%, turned it off and then charged it back to 100%.
I have turned off 4gb (as I don;t have no real 4g signal around me), have the display on the lowest setting and have even under clocked it to 1.2ghz and it's still draining fast.
I have been reading through some forum threads and there are people with the same issue as me, some say they think it’s a faulty battery so they ordered a new battery but never post back there results.
Others say that doing a reset of the phone/reflashing CM 10 does the trick.
I have also experience my phone getting warm to the touch when just checking facebook or web browsing. My phone core seems to be running at 90-95 Fahrenheit when it feels warm and have never seen it go above 100.
I’m open to resetting my phone, but as I have just set up everything, I would rather not to.
I know this is a lot of information, but any advice at all would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance.

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Hello,
I got my (Verizon) Samsung Galaxy S3 two days ago, and rooted and flashed it with the CM 10 Nightly builds after a couple of hours of using touchwiz. Everyone has been saying that they are getting more out of their battery with CM 10, but my experience hasn't been too good. I am getting maybe 9 hours of battery with normal use. When I got the phone I run it down to 10%, turned it off and then charged it back to 100%.
I have been reading through some forum threads and there are people with the same issue as me, some say they think it’s a faulty battery so they ordered a new battery but never post back there results.
Others say that doing a reset of the phone/reflashing CM 10 does the trick.
I have also experience my phone getting warm to the touch when just checking facebook or web browsing. My phone core seems to be running at 90-95 Fahrenheit when it feels warm and have never seen it go above 100.
I’m open to resetting my phone, but as I have just set up everything, I would rather not to.
I know this is a lot of information, but any advice at all would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
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a few things.
if youre running a launcher some allow you to backup your homescreen settings, even the free versions
i have never gotten that bad of battery life out of a CM10 rom. Your screen on time is a more reliable idicator of your battery health than hours of use. the hours of use statistic is easy to manipulate
run better battery stats to find any wakelocks you may have to see whats eating your battery.

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Thanks for the quick reply!
I'm not sure it's an app that's causing this, as I didn't install anything on the phone once I rooted it for a couple of hours and it was still draining fast.
I have gotten the betterbatterystats app and will post what I find out.

I am also not getting the best battery life. I am on paranoidroid 2.52. I had the phone fully charged, screen on watching a video in skyfire. I did not make 3 hours. Is this what others are getting?

Battery issue
You probably all know this already but the screen brightness level also effects the battery a lot. I set mine to auto.

I'm wondering if you flashed your radio and rpm to the latest leaked jb