Dear friends, I am about to install ICS and have read a loft of materials about it. But I have some questions that I couldn't find. Could you please guide me on that.
1. It is required to install a new firmware v. 3.24 in order to run the ROM. Then it is recommended to install new radio. Does firmware include new radio and if not what does it include?
2. As far as I understood new firmware updates hboot making it version 1.24, and it is written in the forums that only 1.17 hboot is unlocked. Could you please tell what difference does it make? Why can't I use fastboot in new hboot and why do I need it for?
3. If I make a full backup of my system does it revert everything back, or hboot and new radio is not the part of a backup?
4. I also have read that if radio and IPL do not match it could brick the device. How do I know what IPL I have and how to match recommended radio with IPL?
5. Once more could you please tell what components does new firmware include and why should I update the firmware in order to run ARDH 6.1.0?
Thank you for your replies, as I'm not doing anything until I clearly understand what I am doing.
Mikhail.
Newest ics. Puts boot up to 1.27 unlocked which means it gives you advance fast boot commands which allows you fasbiot flash radio and splash screens etc. Etc. Same goes for 1.17
Also yes newest firmware does put new radio in
Can't answer all but remember, if you update to hboot 1.27, say goodbye to GB roms as they are not supported on hboot 1.27... You have to stick with ICS roms in future... You can't revert back but that i am not sure about...
You can go can go back long as your super cid
ilostchild said:
You can go can go back long as your super cid
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Could you please tell how can I go back and if new firmware updates radio, how can I revert it to the original state?
ilostchild said:
Newest ics. Puts boot up to 1.27 unlocked which means it gives you advance fast boot commands which allows you fasbiot flash radio and splash screens etc. Etc. Same goes for 1.17
Also yes newest firmware does put new radio in
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It that right if I say that new firmware updates new hboot and radio? Or there is something else that the new firmware includes? I also a bit confused what all mean by "firmware" because in wiki it means the ROM + firmware and kernel.
SonicMZ said:
It that right if I say that new firmware updates new hboot and radio? Or there is something else that the new firmware includes? I also a bit confused what all mean by "firmware" because in wiki it means the ROM + firmware and kernel.
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Yes it does look at your current hboot and radio once you update to firmware 3.24 you will have hboot 1.27 and radio 11.x. x. X when I mean firmware I mean the pdimg that is needed to flash new ics roms
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SonicMZ said:
Could you please tell how can I go back and if new firmware updates radio, how can I revert it to the original state?
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As of now is older radio are not compatible with new hboot
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I mean, I come from desire experience.
There I have SPL, HBOOT, Recovery, Radio and the ROM itself.
Now, why for example Insertcoin is asking me to "upgrade the firmware" with that PG58IMG.ZIP file?
The content seems to be ... scary: hboot, radio, recovery ...
What's the explanation for it?
Shouldn't it be better to say: you need to have this radio and that hboot in order to have this ROM working?
TIA.
Uqbar said:
I mean, I come from desire experience.
There I have SPL, HBOOT, Recovery, Radio and the ROM itself.
Now, why for example Insertcoin is asking me to "upgrade the firmware" with that PG58IMG.ZIP file?
The content seems to be ... scary: hboot, radio, recovery ...
What's the explanation for it?
Shouldn't it be better to say: you need to have this radio and that hboot in order to have this ROM working?
TIA.
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Hi,
You need to have this radio and that hboot in order to make this ROM work.
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Hi,
You need to have this radio and that hboot in order to make this ROM work.
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I'm really dumb, sorry and still don't understand.
I have those 10 binary IMG files into a 20+ MB PG58IMG.zip (37+ MB uncompressed) "just to have the right environment to run his ROM?
How am I supposed to "undo" such a heavy replacement?
He's replacing both the HBOOT and the recovery! And possibly also the SPL!
The newest InsertCoin is based on ICS, so you need the new Firmware (3.24) in order to make it work.
d/l the PG58IMG.zip from the thread linked in the InsertCoin thread, flash it, then flash the ROM and you are good to go. Just check _before_ that your CID and MID is in the list when flashing the new Firmware.
Uqbar said:
I'm really dumb, sorry and still don't understand.
I have those 10 binary IMG files into a 20+ MB PG58IMG.zip (37+ MB uncompressed) "just to have the right environment to run his ROM?
How am I supposed to "undo" such a heavy replacement?
He's replacing both the HBOOT and the recovery! And possibly also the SPL!
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Hi,
I understand your concern.
You are seriously changing out the guts of your phone.
But if you want ICS, and no one is forcing you to do this, then you need all these changes.
You are stepping up your firmware, radio , hboot etc.
In order to have ICS you must do this.
But you can step back .
Nothing else will work with firmware 3.24
So, you can step down easily to firmware 3.12
GB will work with this.
Although, once you try ICS, you will probably stay with it.
Uqbar said:
The content seems to be ... scary: hboot, radio, recovery ...
What's the explanation for it?
Shouldn't it be better to say: you need to have this radio and that hboot in order to have this ROM working?
TIA.
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The firmware for ICS roms not only updates hboot and radio it also modifies the partitions on your system. That's why the phone boot loops if you flash an ICS rom onto a gingerbread firmware, the rom looks for data in a partition that doesn't exist. Read this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=20713530
Sent from my Kindle Fire using Tapatalk
Couple of noob-ish questions...
In the rooted Tmo thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1654347
there is a flashable zip, and an RUU... what's the difference?
Looks like one has to have the latest firmware if we want to use the zip.. makes me wonder .. how does this work for the OTA folks.. ie. is there a way to do an all-in-one update for those still on S-OFF/rooted GB ROMs?
thanks,
Mike
Ruu is installed on the phone when the phone is connected to a computer since they are usually .exe (executable) file.
A zip file is put on the sd card of the phone and flashed/installed via recovery...for us its through cwm (clockworkmod).
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G
zim2dive said:
Couple of noob-ish questions...
In the rooted Tmo thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1654347
there is a flashable zip, and an RUU... what's the difference?
Looks like one has to have the latest firmware if we want to use the zip.. makes me wonder .. how does this work for the OTA folks.. ie. is there a way to do an all-in-one update for those still on S-OFF/rooted GB ROMs?
thanks,
Mike
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I believe the RUU in that thread contains everything you would need to update from GB to ICS (ROM, firmware, and hboot update)...if you run that you will need to root again, flash recovery, and you will have a locked bootloader i believe.
I wish someone would post an all in one for us GB folks...its kinda funny, it seems everyone and their mother believe everyone to be on ICS, when in fact there is a large number of us still running GB, what a false assumption.
el7145 said:
I believe the RUU in that thread contains everything you would need to update from GB to ICS (ROM, firmware, and hboot update)...if you run that you will need to root again, flash recovery, and you will have a locked bootloader i believe.
I wish someone would post an all in one for us GB folks...its kinda funny, it seems everyone and their mother believe everyone to be on ICS, when in fact there is a large number of us still running GB, what a false assumption.
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hmm, it sounds like there is more in the RUU than I'd want (already rooted and S-OFF).. and not as much as I'd like in the ZIP (ie. could I get firmware and ROM all in one shot??) LOL, life is always this way
el7145 said:
I wish someone would post an all in one for us GB folks...its kinda funny, it seems everyone and their mother believe everyone to be on ICS, when in fact there is a large number of us still running GB, what a false assumption.
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yes i am on stock gb and want to move to the rooted version of the tmobile ics update. My reading so far indicates that the rooted version does not have a radio rom, and i find no guide on how to flash just the official ics ota radio rom.
zim2dive said:
hmm, it sounds like there is more in the RUU than I'd want (already rooted and S-OFF).. and not as much as I'd like in the ZIP (ie. could I get firmware and ROM all in one shot??) LOL, life is always this way
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I got tired of waiting for someone to post an all in one...so here is what i did.
I flashed the 3.32 tmobile firmware package (posted somewhere here) which also included revolutionary hboot 1.27 (i didnt know that till i flashed it), so with one flash you get your upgraded firmware and upgraded hboot
all thats really left to flash is the official tmobile ICS zip file which is also rooted already, and blamo your on ics
as far as radios go, the official ICS RUU did not include a new radio, i dont know if that 3.32 firmware package also had the ICS radio
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I got tired of waiting for someone to post an all in one...so here is what i did.
I flashed the 3.32 tmobile firmware package (posted somewhere here) which also included revolutionary hboot 1.27 (i didnt know that till i flashed it), so with one flash you get your upgraded firmware and upgraded hboot
all thats really left to flash is the official tmobile ICS zip file which is also rooted already, and blamo your on ics
as far as radios go, the official ICS RUU did not include a new radio, i dont know if that 3.32 firmware package also had the ICS radio
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Nice to see you're not relying on others to do work for you!
However, the RUU does indeed include a radio (11.69A). The firmware you flashed also includes a radio(11.69). The rom you flashed has RIL's that match the 11.69A radio so right now you have unmatched your radio. You need to go to the radio and ril thread and flash the correct radio (11.69A) or flash the ril's that match your current radio (11.69).
The "all in one" package IS the RUU. Firmware is NOT flashed through recovery. The only way to flash them all together is by use of either an RUU or a PG58IMG.zip, and both are flashed through the bootloader.
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Nice to see you're not relying on others to do work for you!
However, the RUU does indeed include a radio (11.69A). The firmware you flashed also includes a radio(11.69). The rom you flashed has RIL's that match the 11.69A radio so right now you have unmatched your radio. You need to go to the radio and ril thread and flash the correct radio (11.69A) or flash the ril's that match your current radio (11.69).
The "all in one" package IS the RUU. Firmware is NOT flashed through recovery. The only way to flash them all together is by use of either an RUU or a PG58IMG.zip, and both are flashed through the bootloader.
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lol, i shoulda just let the others do the work. Whats the consequence of having "an unmatched radio".
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lol, i shoulda just let the others do the work. Whats the consequence of having "an unmatched radio".
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Poor battery life and/or abnormal behavior...
No big deal. Radios and ril's can be found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1202867
The radios flash through bootloader, and the ril's flash through recovery.
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Poor battery life and/or abnormal behavior...
No big deal. Radios and ril's can be found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1202867
The radios flash through bootloader, and the ril's flash through recovery.
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When I ran the RUU ICS the radio was 11.69A and the Ril was HTC-RIL 4.0.0024HMQ..... I checked it with CIDGetter???
Maybe this will help some people in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26154563#post26154563
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banderz777 said:
When I ran the RUU ICS the radio was 11.69A and the Ril was HTC-RIL 4.0.0024HMQ..... I checked it with CIDGetter???
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Nice catch.
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Maybe this will help some people in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26154563#post26154563
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Nice catch.
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but they do not match am I right or just matching for T-MOB010 ????
banderz777 said:
but they do not match am I right or just matching for T-MOB010 ????
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That's what they're running. Who am I to argue?
Hey,
i need so send in my Sensation due to various problems (dust under screen, cracking cover etc.)
I'm on Hboot 1.23 S-OFF and a beta version of arhd ics....
Now my question is : when i flash an official rom according to [Guide] to Installing S-off, Unlocking, ClockWork, Root, SuperCID & S-on, will my HBoot version also change ? (1.17 for gb or 1.27 for ICS)
or do i manually have to change the hboot version beforehand ? thanks for your help
riotman said:
Hey,
i need so send in my Sensation due to various problems (dust under screen, cracking cover etc.)
I'm on Hboot 1.23 S-OFF and a beta version of arhd ics....
Now my question is : when i flash an official rom according to [Guide] to Installing S-off, Unlocking, ClockWork, Root, SuperCID & S-on, will my HBoot version also change ? (1.17 for gb or 1.27 for ICS)
or do i manually have to change the hboot version beforehand ? thanks for your help
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Hi,
When you flash an original RUU,it will restore the original ROM,radio,recovery,and firmware.
Just make sure you flash the one appropriate to your region and carrier.
You will still need to restore your CID (if you are SuperCID)
Worked flawlessly, it is back to original state now and on its way to maintenance, thanks a lot for your information
malybru said:
Hi,
When you flash an original RUU,it will restore the original ROM,radio,recovery,and firmware.
Just make sure you flash the one appropriate to your region and carrier.
You will still need to restore your CID (if you are SuperCID)
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I know this post is pretty old but I was wondering were I would be able to find the original Ruu for a USA T-Mobile htc sensation... I'm stuck on 1.23. And I've tried everything to put my phone back to stock but nothing has worked
Tank327 said:
I know this post is pretty old but I was wondering were I would be able to find the original Ruu for a USA T-Mobile htc sensation... I'm stuck on 1.23. And I've tried everything to put my phone back to stock but nothing has worked
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Hi,
Look HERE
I have my HTC Sensation, which I had put CoreDroid Rom on it, and did all the nessary steps, but i've pretty much forget all the numbers.
I was using Android Gingerbread, and was pretty bored and decided to upgrade to ICS. I got a Rom, and the proper firmware (matched CID, for 3.32) but on 1 of the forums I read, it said to update my Hboot, before updating my firmware, so I can then Update to the new rom. Well, my Hboot is 1.17.1111, and that is not one of the options for hboots on revolutionary.
So my question is,
•Do I need to update my Hboot to upgrade my Firmware, for ICS?
•If so then if my Hboot is 1.17.1111, then which Hboot do I choose on Revolutionary, to get the proper key?
I need help ASAP, its midnight, and I got a long day tomorrow, wasnt expecting a big project, and im halway through it =-=
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I have my HTC Sensation, which I had put CoreDroid Rom on it, and did all the nessary steps, but i've pretty much forget all the numbers.
I was using Android Gingerbread, and was pretty bored and decided to upgrade to ICS. I got a Rom, and the proper firmware (matched CID, for 3.32) but on 1 of the forums I read, it said to update my Hboot, before updating my firmware, so I can then Update to the new rom. Well, my Hboot is 1.17.1111, and that is not one of the options for hboots on revolutionary.
So my question is,
•Do I need to update my Hboot to upgrade my Firmware, for ICS?
•If so then if my Hboot is 1.17.1111, then which Hboot do I choose on Revolutionary, to get the proper key?
I need help ASAP, its midnight, and I got a long day tomorrow, wasnt expecting a big project, and im halway through it =-=
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You don't need to do any of that rubbish.
Get 3.32 fw from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1459767
& follow the instructions on how to flash it.
Then format/wipe all partitions except sd card from recovery & flash the ROM.
sweet thanks, Just flashed the firmware successfully, in the process of flashing over this rom.
Zeal514 said:
sweet thanks, Just flashed the firmware successfully, in the process of flashing over this rom.
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Don't forget to wipe.
Also, there's a thanks button, you should use that instead of creating a new post for saying thanks.
Does the 1.06 hboot (just downgraded yesterday) allow you to flash roms without flashing the boot.img seperately or is that only possible with S-Off? I reverted my supercid back to TMOB-010 after downgrading if that makes any diff.
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Does the 1.06 hboot (just downgraded yesterday) allow you to flash roms without flashing the boot.img seperately or is that only possible with S-Off? I reverted my supercid back to TMOB-010 after downgrading if that makes any diff.
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If you use TWRP then it does, its the reason I downgraded.
I'll sneak in a question here...
Apart from the official OTA not working, which doesnt work with unlocked bootloader anyway, is there any downside with downgrading hboot?
Im still not sure why the hboot would need downgrading, but everyones talking about it so I guess there gotta be a reason for it lol
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I'll sneak in a question here...
Apart from the official OTA not working, which doesnt work with unlocked bootloader anyway, is there any downside with downgrading hboot?
Im still not sure why the hboot would need downgrading, but everyones talking about it so I guess there gotta be a reason for it lol
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OTA can be flashed on unlocked bootloader but need to have stock recovery. there is no downsides but a bunch of upsides like TWRP flashing boot.img also change radio and wifi partitions and also do this sweet mod.
Concur with Darknites--
I was lucky and got .06 "out of the box". Don't need ADB/Fastboot/Flash Image GUI for boot images.
Can flash all roms with boot image inside them and any radio/recovery I want thru Fastboot.
Only now just started using CM Installer to flash whatever radio I want on CM roms--but, that is a different matter.
I just did the last official OTA update (I actually found nothing wrong with that update except the battery history screen) and now i have Hboot 2.15.
Can I downgrade to Hboot 1.06 (the original Hboot i got with the device) and then root the device?
Thanks
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I just did the last official OTA update (I actually found nothing wrong with that update except the battery history screen) and now i have Hboot 2.15.
Can I downgrade to Hboot 1.06 (the original Hboot i got with the device) and then root the device?
Thanks
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Yes, you can