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LG Optimus 3D coming to AT&T as LG Thrill 4G

http://androidandme.com/2011/03/pho...erience-discomfort-while-watching-3d-content/
Looks like the Optimus 3D will be heading to AT&T as LG Thrill 4G. While I'm not sure if I would get this over the SG2, but I'm glad to see AT&T selection for Android phones are getting bigger.

Its the quickest phone so far according to these benchmarks my only beef is that it only has 512mb of ram, i was hoping for a gig. If the bootloader is unlocked this will probably be my next phone, no more samsung for me.

The wife and I are up for upgrades now, it will be this or the SGSII. You guys may not like Samsung, but mine ( captivate ) works great.
Hope they both release soon.

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Its the quickest phone so far according to these benchmarks.
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You know, I've seen similar benches w/ the same result. The Atrix & the Galaxy II both have more RAM then the 3D. I guess 512 is really all any Android dual core phone needs?

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You know, I've seen similar benches w/ the same result. The Atrix & the Galaxy II both have more RAM then the 3D. I guess 512 is really all any Android dual core phone needs?
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It's all it needs to run a single benchmark app. It needs more when you start running a couple of apps that use more memory and it starts closing apps you were using but sent to background. I'll fall back to my old example on my Captivate. When playing poker, I'd set a timer on my phone for blinds, but then I'd go to the browser and watch a live sporting event using Flash which obviously uses quite a bit of memory. The browser alone would use enough memory to close my timer app in order to get more memory, which would mean the timer would never go off.
That's just one time where it was really noticeable, but as apps get bigger and more complex, this will continue to happen more and more frequently. I'm really torn now because I like the idea of the 3D screen, but the 512 MB of memory is a big big negative to me. SGS2 or Thrill? Might just have to wait for the next big thing after that.

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It's all it needs to run a single benchmark app. It needs more when you start running a couple of apps that use more memory and it starts closing apps you were using but sent to background. I'll fall back to my old example on my Captivate. When playing poker, I'd set a timer on my phone for blinds, but then I'd go to the browser and watch a live sporting event using Flash which obviously uses quite a bit of memory. The browser alone would use enough memory to close my timer app in order to get more memory, which would mean the timer would never go off.
That's just one time where it was really noticeable, but as apps get bigger and more complex, this will continue to happen more and more frequently. I'm really torn now because I like the idea of the 3D screen, but the 512 MB of memory is a big big negative to me. SGS2 or Thrill? Might just have to wait for the next big thing after that.
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I see exactly what you mean. Then I suppose all the benches I've seen are restricted to a device's CPU & graphical abilities? I know that desktop benches test everything- I guess that's not the case here w/ smart-phones & their integrated RAM?

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I see exactly what you mean. Then I suppose all the benches I've seen are restricted to a device's CPU & graphical abilities? I know that desktop benches test everything- I guess that's not the case here w/ smart-phones & their integrated RAM?
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Most benchmarks test memory performance, but there isn't really a test for memory capacity since it already has a set value (the total capacity). The memory performance on this phone will probably be great since they said they are doing dual channel, but I just worry if 512 is enough.

AJerman, thanks for the explanation. I'll need to look into this a bit more in terms of what benchmark the media selects to adequately test smart phones. Considering the small footprint apps take in mobile OSs, I suppose apps will eventually list on their product page that a certain amount of free memory must be available in order for it to function properly.

Wait why would you rather get the GS2 over the Thrill? They both have daul core processors, and TI processor in the Thrill seems to be very good. Not only that, they are both 4g. Is the only reason you would prefer the GS2 the RAM? The Thrill had 512 MB RAM, right? how much do you expect form the GS2? 712 MB? I mean, how much of a difference will that make?

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Wait why would you rather get the GS2 over the Thrill? They both have daul core processors, and TI processor in the Thrill seems to be very good. Not only that, they are both 4g. Is the only reason you would prefer the GS2 the RAM? The Thrill had 512 MB RAM, right? how much do you expect form the GS2? 712 MB? I mean, how much of a difference will that make?
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The SGS2 will have 1GB. I have 512 MB in my Captivate right now and I run out of memory, thus, I can only assume with 512 in the Thrill, I would run out of memory.

If you are running out of memory with 512mb ram then something is very wrong.
Are you using a task-killer or custom rom?

I have the vibrant and after owning the nexus one I feel my vibrant is more nicer lol. I don't plan on getting rid.of.it.
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The wife and I are up for upgrades now, it will be this or the SGSII. You guys may not like Samsung, but mine ( captivate ) works great.
Hope they both release soon.
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Burko said:
If you are running out of memory with 512mb ram then something is very wrong.
Are you using a task-killer or custom rom?
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Negative, lets do a little breakdown on Android memory here.
512 MB in the phone. A large chunk of that is reserved and the user never sees it. As it stands, I see 342 MB of RAM available for use. Now, that 342 is spread across all running services. Lots of apps stay resident unless the memory is needed. This improves load time for the apps, but they will close if memory starts getting low. Then you have your background services. These are still running and will stay running even in low memory unless you reach a critical point where they have to close too. So it's hard to tell how much you really have free. Right now my phone says I have about ~100 MB free.
Now, open up your web browser and load a Flash video. Good ole Adobe and the memory hogging Flash Player. Flash uses a TON of memory, so you can go ahead and say goodbye to most of what you have free. If you have something else running in the background and it's staying resident in the memory for quick start up, there's a good chance it's going to get killed to free memory for the web browser/Flash Player. If you need memory enough, some background services might even get killed as in the example where my timer app was getting killed when I ran a live flash video from the browser.
Thus, 512 MB isn't enough for phones now and the future. It was okay in the last generation of phones, but these new phones with dual core CPUs are only going to have more and more complex apps, and it's going to be more than Flash that's using a large chunk of memory.

[Q] 1GB vs 2GB RAM on Android 4.0

There has been a lot of internet buzz lately around new 2GB phones coming out, most specifically the LG Optimus LTE2 and the Galaxy S3. I am looking to get a new phone, but the one that has caught my eye is the Xperia GX with Sony's new CMOS sensor.
I was wondering, how is the performance of Android 4.0 with only 1GB RAM, and would the performance increase of 2GB be a significant enough difference to want one of the Korean phones? Does anyone with a current 1GB phone have any issues with performance?
I believe all of the above mentioned phones use the new Snapdragon S4 processor.
Thank you!

I think for now 2GB of RAM is a bit of a overkill, for now, unless you're running fifty apps at once. I think 1GB is plenty enough. I myself own a Galaxy Nexus and it has 1GB of RAM. It ran smoothly even with like a few apps running in the background. Really, if you wanted to run fifty apps in the background, it will kill your battery, so I guess thats the trade off with 2GB RAM.

vx117 said:
I think for now 2GB of RAM is a bit of a overkill, for now, unless you're running fifty apps at once. I think 1GB is plenty enough. I myself own a Galaxy Nexus and it has 1GB of RAM. It ran smoothly even with like a few apps running in the background. Really, if you wanted to run fifty apps in the background, it will kill your battery, so I guess thats the trade off with 2GB RAM.
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I don't think has talking about a nexus phone, when buying let's say an HTC evo 4G lte or galaxy3. You see left with very little ram if they were both1GB. My LTEvo is left with only 200 to 150 mb's ram left, but that's with every app I have running. Still when I'm web surfing the web sites easily ready threw the 200 mb's & more so sometimes the browser closes on me all on it's to refresh the memory I'm guessing. So yes I believe the fact that we now use higher resolution screens meaning higher resolution slings & launchers not to mention games, imo we need more RAM, not an extra gig but at least 400 mb's free. That way the launcher on the evo doesn't have to refresh everytime *really about once a week* but the 2 GB's the galaxy had is overkill but at least you won't have any of the referring the RAM every one in a while. Also to be noted in every benchmark between the galaxy3 & ltevo, the evo win's, surprisingly even in the memory I/O! In antutu benchmark & in quadrant the gs3 scores about 4780 while the ltevo scores 5000 to 5300, I peonally scored 545x... So I don't know if SG3 isusing given 2 GB's of slower ram or LTEvo is using faster RAM but it still not bring enough, all in all I will change my LTEvo do to the RAM issue that can be fixed with a simple update.

It's android or it's Windows 7 ultimate?? LOL
1 GB is just perfect.
My pc has 2.13 GHz cpu single core and 2GB ram and runs windows 7, my brother's htc one x has 1.5 ghz quad core cpu and 1gb ram for run android 4.0!
that's incredible

Android does NOT need 2gb of ram. My Galaxy Nexus runs amazing on 1gb of ram, and my Xperia Play ran ICS pretty good and it only had 512mb of ram. Right now a phone having 2gb of ram is just a marketing gimick. I can't see any of the Android releases in the near future needing 2gb of ram to be smooth. In fact Jellybean runs smoother than ICS on the same hardware, so it's getting more efficient, not less.

1GB is GOOD & 2GB is ... :good:

In theory, 1GB of RAM is lots. But I have the HTC One X (North American version) which has 1GB of RAM, and it suffers from crippled multitasking (just search Google if interested). Nobody seems to know for sure, but the general consensus on the root cause is that the HTC Sense software is a RAM hog, and therefore HTC had to modify Android to aggressively kill background apps in order to ensure that Sense performs well. I suspect that had they installed 2GB of RAM, like the Samsung Galaxy S3, the multitasking issue would not have occurred.
I have since installed an unofficial alpha build of Cyanogenmod9 on my device and it multitasks like a dream. So if you're buying an Android phone without a whole lot of bloatware, like a Galaxy Nexus, 1GB should be a lot. But if you're eyeing the HTC One X, you may want to wait for a 2GB model to come out

in future you need 2gb of memory.....
many apps and games improvement in the future......now 1gb it's still enough but in the future?? :laugh:

The more the merrier.; )

2gb is just too much for android, 1gb already runs smoothly, hell even my galaxy s1 with 512mb can run ics smoothly (true story). i think they are trowing 2gb just for people to think it's gonna be faster and smoother but that isn't the case here, though it's not going to hurt if you go for 2gb, it is just that it wont make a real difference. :laugh:

Confused, frustrated, and abandoning the platform if...
I can't find the bottleneck and get snappy performance.
I'm on a Galaxy Nexus on V. The problem is (and I'm really not looking for business advice - I'm spread too thin for major overhaul) I can't delete my SMS because, many times, it may be the ONLY reference we have for a discussion I had with a customer of what they need(ed), what I charged, when the job was completed. I realize this isn't ideal, but it's (for now) a reality.
I have a HUGE DB of SMS... over 5000. I don't install many apps... of course, I have my gmail account sync'd.
One of my slow-downs was using google-voice... however, even with it removed, it's choppy. Whether moving between home screens, loading my SMS, getting keyboard input on an SMS to respond (which sometimes takes 10 seconds to start recording keystrokes).
I know that if I deleted everything and only had a sparse amount of data (primarily SMS) it'd be faster. And for good reason... managing a DB of texts seems like a lot of data to organize. And that... I assume is controlled by RAM.
And before anyone jumps to conclusions, bare in mind, I own a tech company. There's nothing broken on the phone. It runs the same as EVERY android device I've owned. Pretty fast (generation specific) at first, then, slows down... by month 3, I dislike the phone.
Yes, each generation gets successively LESS painful -- but I have an EXTREMELY fast paced life. I always have 2-6 people waiting for my attention throughout the day... every second counts. And every delay is annoying.
Is this just fatally-flawed-android for you? Unable to deal with a large(ish) DB..? Is this a RAM issue? Is this energy saving issue? I'm currently waiting for the iPhone 5 for a larger screen. If it has one... I'm probably jumping ship. I've exhausted my attempts with android... if either RAM or JB 4.1 doesn't fix this... I give up. I need my messages.
Suggestions? Am I overlooking anything?
THanks

Well more RAM can't hurt you, but it really after all depends on the device you're getting. These days I reckon as long as it isn't below 1GB RAM for a mobile device, then it's ok. As a matter of fact that's great
If I may suggest a mobile device for you to have a good look at, this would be the Samsung Galaxy Nexus. It's google's flagship phone, it's great, mostly gets the new updates first and is very reliable and clean. It isn't hard to root at all also, and is very true to its core, with google supporting it more than any other device. I currently have a Nexus S, the one that came before it. It's great, but would really need a bump in speed, I can see myself getting a new phone in 6 months, maybe when google come out with a new mobile device.
cheers, and good luck on finding a new phone.

That IS the phone I have.
Thanks,
Truman

It sounds like you have the same problems as iphone users at http://michaelhyatt.com/speed-up-iphone.html in which case switching to iphone probably won't help.
You could use a free app to backup your texts, "sms to text" is one which could help and you can save all or selected texts to txt or csv formats which would also mean you could search quicker when needed or transfer backups to a pc.
It seems it is a smartphone issue as opposed to model specific, based on a lot of googling not my personal experience though, but backing up would allow you to access the data as needed on other platforms.
Dave
( http://www.google.com/producer/editions/CAownKXmAQ/bigfatuniverse )
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[Q] About available ram?

Hi! I would really like to buy this tablet but I heard from somewhere that the tegra 3 gpu and cpu needs 500mb of ram so that there would be only a half gig left to system.
So could somebody tell me what the available ram is for real on that tablet and is the amount of ram enough? And also is tf700 really worth the money?
Thanx in advance
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Stempanssi said:
Hi! I would really like to buy this tablet but I heard from somewhere that the tegra 3 gpu and cpu needs 500mb of ram so that there would be only a half gig left to system.
So could somebody tell me what the available ram is for real on that tablet and is the amount of ram enough? And also is tf700 really worth the money?
Thanx in advance
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You shouldn't judge it on how much ram it has left. RAM can be used to pre cache apps so theres no loading time. Different manufactures tweek the way android handles RAM. A tablet with less available RAM can run faster than one with more available RAM
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ian1 said:
You shouldn't judge it on how much ram it has left. RAM can be used to pre cache apps so theres no loading time. Different manufactures tweek the way android handles RAM. A tablet with less available RAM can run faster than one with more available RAM
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There's not a lot that you can do to clog up the available RAM on this thing anyways....Even if you had 500MB available, what kind of applications can actually fill up that space?

KilerG said:
There's not a lot that you can do to clog up the available RAM on this thing anyways....Even if you had 500MB available, what kind of applications can actually fill up that space?
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Thats what I wanted to know, but one thing more what's the real amount of ram left to system.
And do you think this tablet is worth the money?
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Stempanssi said:
Thats what I wanted to know, but one thing more what's the real amount of ram left to system.
And do you think this tablet is worth the money?
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I don't know how much RAM is being used, they're not available in the US quite yet. I can only guess that the system will use 500MB or less. On my Bionic, I don't have a big problem of not having enough RAM, so I don't expect it on the tablet (especially since the OS on the tablet is much cleaner than on my phone).
Worth the money? That's up to you. It has the best specs on the market right now and has the awesome keyboard dock, so I think it's worth it.

Listen to ian1, he had something important to say.
Also remember that Android has its own way of not only freeing memory used by running and idle processes, but also of managing various kinds of memory - it is not free/used dichotomy, you have to count in shared and buffered memory (you can actually see it in various OSs nowadays). I have about half of Infinity's 1GB RAM available normally (and right now), which is AFAIU free+buffered mainly.

The TF300 has a LOT of ram available on boot up. Almost a full GB I think.

Free ram is NOT a good indicator of how fast/usable your device is. Android is based on Linux, which has a philosophy of free ram is wasted ram. That is, your device will actually be faster if its ram is full. This is why task killers are considered to be so bad on Android. Just let Android manage itself and don't worry about it.

Ok thanks all I think i'm buying the tf300
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You have 976mb of ram most of it is used though
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Why games like this ?

Hi Guys
I think the games are too slow on android with medium ram like 512mb ram even in iPhone4 and 4s and even windows phone phpnes like lumia phpnes with 512 ram and the games too smooth and much faster but in android too lagy and you need to clear mempey close apps then lanch the game but it will return to be laggy cuz the apps will relaunxh automatically what is the reason i think the reason its by keep the apps launched in background please i need opinions and replies
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512 is not medium ram. That is the minimum ram android needs to run. You will not be able to do alot with a such a low end device.
Wayne Tech Nexus

zelendel said:
512 is not medium ram. That is the minimum ram android needs to run. You will not be able to do alot with a such a low end device.
Wayne Tech Nexus
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And do ios and windows phone 8 are lighter than android to run games smoother and faster
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Your comparing apples to oranges to grapes. They are all very different OS with different hardware and software.
Wayne Tech Nexus

And even the windows phone and iOS can't run modern games on 512 MB of ram... Not well anyways
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zelendel said:
512 is not medium ram. That is the minimum ram android needs to run. You will not be able to do alot with a such a low end device.
Wayne Tech Nexus
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suffering with my SE LWW

NiceIceDice96 said:
Hi Guys
I think the games are too slow on android with medium ram like 512mb ram even in iPhone4 and 4s and even windows phone phpnes like lumia phpnes with 512 ram and the games too smooth and much faster but in android too lagy and you need to clear mempey close apps then lanch the game but it will return to be laggy cuz the apps will relaunxh automatically what is the reason i think the reason its by keep the apps launched in background please i need opinions and replies
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Damn true buddy...:thumbup:

NiceIceDice96 said:
Hi Guys
I think the games are too slow on android with medium ram like 512mb ram even in iPhone4 and 4s and even windows phone phpnes like lumia phpnes with 512 ram and the games too smooth and much faster but in android too lagy and you need to clear mempey close apps then lanch the game but it will return to be laggy cuz the apps will relaunxh automatically what is the reason i think the reason its by keep the apps launched in background please i need opinions and replies
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512mb is the absolute bargain basement low-end amount of ram that you're going to get in an Android phone these days. There's really no reason to be using a phone like that anymore, especially if you're into gaming. Even my son's piece-of-crap LG Viper has 1gb of ram. I guarantee you can get a better phone than you're using off eBay for not much money.
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maxpower7 said:
512mb is the absolute bargain basement low-end amount of ram that you're going to get in an Android phone these days. There's really no reason to be using a phone like that anymore, especially if you're into gaming. Even my son's piece-of-crap LG Viper has 1gb of ram. I guarantee you can get a better phone than you're using off eBay for not much money.
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Okay but iPhone4 can run a lot of gamea and it will be so fast so smooth like subway aurders it ia ao laggy on 512 ram but in iphone 4 it is so smooth and so fast like a charm right and all games like this
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NiceIceDice96 said:
Okay but iPhone4 can run a lot of gamea and it will be so fast so smooth like subway aurders it ia ao laggy on 512 ram but in iphone 4 it is so smooth and so fast like a charm right and all games like this
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Probably because the iPhone runs a totally different OS than an Android phone. Apple optimized the crap out of the OS to prioritize a consistently smooth UI at the expense of a lot of other things.
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RAM: is 1GB still enough?

Hello,
I'm thinking about buying a new phone and I want it to last some time without lags.
After some research, I realized that most phones on the market have 1GB RAM. Even the new Moto G, considered one of the best phones below 200€, has 1GB RAM.
Do you think that 1GB is enough to run smoothly the upcoming Android L with a decent amount of multitasking (Facebook, Tapatalk, Phone, Messaging...) and with minimum lag? How long do you think that this amount of RAM is going to be enough?

Hello Duarteman.. Are you the one from Redondo?

bcuraman said:
Hello Duarteman.. Are you the one from Redondo?
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Hello bcuraman, I'm sorry but I don't know what you meant. I don't know what/where is Redondo...

That's fine.I just thought you were someone that I know.
About your question: it depends on what you're planning to use it for.if its for heavy usage and apps,I would say that 1gb won't be enough. I'm now on Oppo Find 7,and my previous phone was a SGS3, amazing phone but with only 1gb of ram.. It didn't lag that much,but it was noticeable unresponsive with some heavy apps...
If you're one of those people who just intend to use phone,messaging and Facebook,then 1gb is enough... Android L might be a lighter system but that's just the OS.. The apps is what makes the difference...How long the 1gb of ram lasts will depend on the ammount of apps you'd have open and how you feel with the phone itself..

i think 1 GB ram not enough, i have my S890 with 1 GB ram, it had litte lag with JB 4.2 .

Duarteman said:
Hello,
I'm thinking about buying a new phone and I want it to last some time without lags.
After some research, I realized that most phones on the market have 1GB RAM. Even the new Moto G, considered one of the best phones below 200€, has 1GB RAM.
Do you think that 1GB is enough to run smoothly the upcoming Android L with a decent amount of multitasking (Facebook, Tapatalk, Phone, Messaging...) and with minimum lag? How long do you think that this amount of RAM is going to be enough?
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It depends on the phone. Moto G? Yeah, 1GB is enough, because it runs (nearly) stock Android. A phone with a heavy ROM like a Samsung with TouchWiz? 1GB is barely adequate, and you'll see lag.
If you've got 200€ to spend, look at a Nexus 4. 2GB RAM and the processor is still very capable. Especially running stock Android or any custom ROM you can find. No LTE in Europe though, but 42.2Mb/s HSPA+ is still pretty fast.

1 GB RAM is very common now

Depends on what you will use your phone for. 1GB will let you easily do the day to day tasks.

Planterz said:
It depends on the phone. Moto G? Yeah, 1GB is enough, because it runs (nearly) stock Android. A phone with a heavy ROM like a Samsung with TouchWiz? 1GB is barely adequate, and you'll see lag.
If you've got 200€ to spend, look at a Nexus 4. 2GB RAM and the processor is still very capable. Especially running stock Android or any custom ROM you can find. No LTE in Europe though, but 42.2Mb/s HSPA+ is still pretty fast.
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I'm looking for a phone with Pure Android but that is not a very important issue. For example, if I buy a Samsung I can change the Stock ROM by a clean AOSP one. The essential thing here is the Hardware. Is 1GB enough for a fluent experience doing the main tasks (Fb, phone, sms, ...) for a few years?
The Nexus 4 is one of the phones I'm thinking about. The only thing that I don't like in it is the camera, it's weak. Other phones I'm thinking about are the HTC One M7 (unfortunately they are still a bit expensive) and the Samsung Galaxy S3 LTE (comes with a Quad Core and 2GB RAM). Other phones like the Moto G seem to be a nice deal and I can buy it new for less than 200€ but I'm really afraid that the (lack of) RAM.
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Depends on what you will use your phone for. 1GB will let you easily do the day to day tasks.
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Yes but that is for now... The question is how long will that last.
Thanks for all the replies btw!