Amazon Kindle Fire - General Questions and Answers

I already have a Kindle reader, but I'm thinking of getting a Kindle Fire. Does anyone here have a Kindle Fire? How do you like it?

I do not have one but we recently got one for my Grandpa and I have been showing him how to use it. If you have an android phone then I'd say dont get it, although it is android, it really isn't. but if you already have a kindle and want more functionality id say go for it, runs nice and has some good features, but also has no mic or cams

Thanks....How is the Android OS compared to the a Android phone

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Thanks....How is the Android OS compared to the a Android phone
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Limited, to say the least. There's no android market. You must rely on Amazon's App Store. That, of course means you're going to miss out on plenty of apps that are not yet available on there (unless you root, of course).
To root, check out this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1410223
The whole look and feel of the Fire has shreds of Android, but if you're used to using a fully featured Android phone, you could easily get frustrated.
Don't get me wrong, it's a nice device, even at $199. Just try not to think of it as an android tablet or you'll be disappointed.

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Android Tablets?

Hello,
i am interested in buying an Android tablet, however i don't want to spend so much money either.
Thus i suppose a branded tablet is out of question. The first generation iPad seems a good solution, but i dont like the idea leaving android and starting from scratch in understanding their OS... Even Nook Color is in my options!
However there are so many unbranded tablets. How to chose?!?!
Would all connect with no problem to Android apps and market?
I have an Android Motorola phone currently, thus i would prefer to have a capacitive tablet as well.
Would i be able to buy a protector for my tablet if this is unbranded?
Any recommendations please?
Thanks!
Hi there,
I would find an used Folio 100 (Toshiba) and then install Dexters forliomod rom on it.
I am very pleased with mine.
Regards,
Per.
You should try Galaxy Tab. The price has gone down a lot recently
Thanks, but i suppose the price is again not near the Nook color...
Try the Nook Color, I hear good things about it.
The Nook Color and XDA could be your ticket...
Got a color nook loaded in dual boot and run 2.3 on it If you do not need microphone and camera then this is great choice. I did not load on the nook 2.3 because I wanted to keep the reader it come loaded with, this reader reads out loud the kid's books in a real human recorded voice. This is awesome for my kid who is 4. But if you do not need this feature then you can load directly on to the system 2.2 or 2.3 or 3.0 This device is a flashing geek's dream fun to modify and 200 bucks
oka1 said:
Got a color nook loaded in dual boot and run 2.3 on it If you do not need microphone and camera then this is great choice. I did not load on the nook 2.3 because I wanted to keep the reader it come loaded with, this reader reads out loud the kid's books in a real human recorded voice. This is awesome for my kid who is 4. But if you do not need this feature then you can load directly on to the system 2.2 or 2.3 or 3.0 This device is a flashing geek's dream fun to modify and 200 bucks
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Cool thanks! If you find it anywhere for 200$ please let me know!
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If you are using android phone currently, my suggestion is you should try ipad. that you could have two differ os. That's must better than using one os.
zack_sparrow said:
If you are using android phone currently, my suggestion is you should try ipad. that you could have two differ os. That's must better than using one os.
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is that true though? Why complicated your life when you know Android so well?
Basically this is the reason why i am not going to iPad, dont want to complicated my life to a different OS...
How much IS there to know about these mobile device OS?*
*Unless you're a developer. If so, the device you develop for would probably dictate your next purchase unless something radically more interesting comes along.
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How much IS there to know about these mobile device OS?*
*Unless you're a developer. If so, the device you develop for would probably dictate your next purchase unless something radically more interesting comes along.
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Being able to know everything needs root an android, having so many apps and knowing that what i would be searching on my phone would be done also for my tablet, that would make me really happy.
I am not in a mood for searching info on how to jailbreak an ipad...
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i wanted to get one too but i think they are uselles to me so..
If you're on the cheap, rooting a NC is the way to go. B&N lists it for sale @ $200 occasionally, but you can usually find one listed on Craigslist for the same price or a little cheaper.
If you've got $400 to spend, pick up the Asus Transformer, it's the best Android bang-for-the-buck at the moment.
Ok thanks. I was thinking whether Nooc color or a chinese C8 have the same power and capabilities runnin on 2.2..
Does anyone know? Or NC is just superior for the "official" support it has...
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fly touch, malata, ctab t2, ctab pro, tab t23, there are many,,
and now android 2.3 tablets are available now
Yes there many! However the question is, do you risk it and buy one?
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wait for galaxy tab2
I'd say go with the Ipad most definately. Not Android platform but trust me that's a good thing.
I really like the honeycomb, and i think this is better than my friends Ipad1

Is anyone else thinking about actually USING WebOS?

I am really starting to like WebOS a lot and since we know it is the tablets and not the OS that were scrapped, I have to wonder about a possible groundswell of new development for the native operating system.
I am not quite as excited as most about getting FroYo on this thing, I actually think it may be a downgrade, performance-wise. GingerBread struck me as slightly different than FroYo, but Honeycomb is sweet. I also have a Viewsonic Gtablet running the FlashBack Honeycomb ROM and it is pretty damn nice, but I find WebOS to be a little more elegant and refined feeling. Especially after installing PreWare and adding the performance patches and stuff.
I am not a developer, but there are a lot of them around here and quite a few of them either already got or will get a touchpad to play with. I am hoping that some of them will be impressed enough (or intrigued enough) to look at the WebOS SDK and PDK.
Since there are already drivers for full functionality within WebOS, I would think it would not be too arduous for some of these intrepid devs to port a few of the popular apps over for those sticking with it. There is also a web-based widget builder called Project Ares that looks interesting.
Anybody else? Bueller?
I would continue using WebOS if there's a way to use Android apps on it
Webos is probably my favorite tablet os now. The problem is there's no Apps for it. I bought the touchpad for my girlfriend yesterday and she said she loved it but after 10 minutes of just checking facebook and some websites she was like, ok what now?
They need more games optimized for it and better prices
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With no apps just think how youll never exhaust its resources
Just read a site claiming to have an andriod dump from HP's tablet. There will be decent android roms in no time.
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i'm kind of torn about using android on my TP.
i quite like the way webOS works.
i honestly can't understand why HP gave up on this thing. it's brilliant.
sure it's a little slow out of the box, but so was my HTC magic. a new rom fixed that.
it has fantastic support from the preware community.
i'm loving gestures and cards.
a 3G modem would've been nice (or a usb port to allow a dongle), but again not a big deal given that most phones these days can do wireless hotspot and 99.9% of the time if i have my tablet, i also have my phone. therefore it's always able to connect.
i'll admit the build quality leaves a bit to be desired, but for a first up effort it's pretty good.
the touchstone dock is brilliant.
i'm tempted to buy a second one so i'll have one at home and one at work.
i love android. (i'm somewhat of a fanboy)
i recommend it to friends all of the time. but after experiencing webOS i'm starting to wonder why.
EDIT: maybe HP will sell or licence webOS off to google and we can get the best of both worlds?
Since WebOS was released on the Pre few years ago I always wanted to try this OS as I mostly heard good comments about it and it looked good.
I must say that WebOS on a tablet is WOW! I love it.
I really hope new apps will be developed and that I will be able to continue to use WebOS.
I like my Android phone, but I would be happy continuing having a WebOS tablet.
I have heard that the HP Touchpad has a 3G and 4G wan aready on the chip and just waiting for software to activate. Just like the Nook color bluetooth that it never came with but was activated within Gingerbread.
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I really hope we will get the dual boot option. I would love to use that UbuntuChroot on it while enjoying Froyo or GB
I've always been interested in webOS ever playing witha mates palm pre. The cheap touchpads seemed like a great way of getting a webOS device.
I don't understand why people want to remove webOS, however I can understand trying to port android apps to it.
I'm still waiting delivery of my touchpad, cant wait to get playing around with it.
Does anyone know if I can mess with the browser so I can access chrome webapps?
I bought for two reasons, price and Android. For $149 you cant go wrong, I thought of buying more to try and sell for a small profit but decided against it. My local Arrons had one in their store, but had access to 6 more WebOS looks cool, but I am not familiar with it at all. I really dont care to learn it being WebOS is done. If worse comes to worse and only the Android market/APPS will work on it then I will be happy Heck, who am I kidding, at such a low price I am happy no matter what!
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I bought for two reasons, price and Android. For $149 you cant go wrong, I thought of buying more to try and sell for a small profit but decided against it. My local Arrons had one in their store, but had access to 6 more WebOS looks cool, but I am not familiar with it at all. I really dont care to learn it being WebOS is done. If worse comes to worse and only the Android market/APPS will work on it then I will be happy Heck, who am I kidding, at such a low price I am happy no matter what!
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The point is, WebOS is not "done." In fact, it sounds like HP is planning to put a lot more into it.
Here is what the VP of Developer Relations said: http://developer.palm.com/blog/2011/08/the-next-chapter-for-webos/
Hopefully the Palmdroid project produces results. Because I prefer the webOS experience.
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The point is, WebOS is not "done." In fact, it sounds like HP is planning to put a lot more into it.
Here is what the VP of Developer Relations said: http://developer.palm.com/blog/2011/08/the-next-chapter-for-webos/
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Yep, WebOS development will continue.
I really don't understand the cry for Android either. Froyo is not that amazing, Gingerbread isn't that great either. Heck, I have owned quite a few Honeycomb tablets (Xoom, rooted Nook Color, Dell Streak 7) and none of them impressed me.
I get that people here overwhelmingly like Android. But the only merit I can see for putting Android on this guy is for the apps. And, lets be honest, anything besides Android 3.X isn't even optimized for a large display like the touchpad. The Gmail application for example is just a giant list of emails. The WebOS email interface is leagues ahead because it actually takes advantage of the screen size by layering slide-panels instead of just being a giant list of messages!
WebOS is an awesome operating system. The only things holding it back to this point have been total garbage hardware (the Pre was trash) and a lack of developer interest. With HP pushing out hundreds and hundreds of thousands of these tablets in days, its safe to say that development will speed up on the WebOS front. Applications will start to trickle in faster, and things will improve.
The desire to have Android, yet alone a non 3.0 Android, on this thing just seems silly. But whatever, each to his or her own. I for one can appreciate the qualities of WebOS and will keep using it since it is a polished, tablet friendly operating system. After the "oh wow look what I did" factor of having Android 2.X on a tablet wore off, I realized non-Honeycomb Android on a tablet really sucks.
I already have an Android Tablet...it's cool.
I bought this for a cheap price, to have as a "coffee table" device for cruising the net and checking email. Maybe a youtube video once in a while.
AND...when you register the device you still get 50GB of cloud storage through box.net. I'm looking forward to using mine and have no intentions of putting any other OS on it...
I am a huge android fan, but Ill admit that after using the TP for a few days, WebOS is hands down a better tablet OS. Its just so much more structured. Thats why Im looking forward to see what comes out of the Palmdroid project. From my understanding, theyre trying to port the Dalvik VM over to WebOS which will allow android apps to run in "cards".
Been checking this every day for the past week now
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1230723
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Webos is probably my favorite tablet os now. The problem is there's no Apps for it. I bought the touchpad for my girlfriend yesterday and she said she loved it but after 10 minutes of just checking facebook and some websites she was like, ok what now?
They need more games optimized for it and better prices
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WebOS is dead Install Android 3.2 Honeycomb
Haha no, not at all. This is the worst OS I've ever touched. The OS is overall sluggish and not made for a fluid experience what so ever.
I just had mine fail to download a 30MB System update about 10 or so times.
Browsing the poor apps in the market takes a minute to load each individual apps page.
The pre-installed "apps" are a link to go download it on the market which takes the aforementioned minute load of the page.
The best app would have to be the youtube app that opens up the browser to Youtube.com, absolutely ingenious!
It has. . nothing. On it. I can't even find apps if there were good apps, you can't go to the top of free apps.. there is either top, paid, or free search tabs but not a top free.
Even the browser leaves me yearning for more as I sit there and watch the checkered white boarder all over.
Is anyone else thinking about actually USING WebOS?
Yes, me!
Im running psycho-f15c-kernel-touchpad_3.0.2-41 on my ToychPad at 1.9GHz 100% stable! This thing is faaaaaaaaaaaaaaast!
Best and fastest Tab ever and WebOS is simply extraordinary... what a loss that that the best Tab EVER is discontinued and the most elegant and accomplished OS for a tablet has been sentenced to death. I have an ipad2 that I really like and a Samsung Galaxy Tab 7" that I use as my phone running Android 2.3.
Nothing touches WebOS, nothing! And nothing touches the speed of the Touchpad at 1.9Ghz! Ill use and love the Touchpad for as long as I can can, even iwht limited apps and an OS that is frozen in time. What a great loss, this is just so amazingly great! If HP had launched this a year ago and seriousely wanting to make it a success, this would be for sure the ipad killer... my a million miles.. really sad, but happy I have one and that works so well.
Thank guys for making this thing work so well and fast. XDA is the best community on the internet, period!
I just got my touchpad in the mail and have been playing with it for the last couple of hours. Here is my first impression:
wow, webos is pretty impressive. I owned and used iphones, ipads, android phones and tablets extensively and I can say that webos has the simplicity and user friendliness of ios and the multitasking and openness of android. Kind of best of both worlds. If it had the dev support of ios and android, it would certainly be better than ios and a huge competitor to android.
it is such a shame that it is almost dead. HP should have sold these tabs at $250 at launch ($50 below manufacturing cost) just like they do with the consoles and build dev support. Once established, they would make a ton of money off of their app market by selling media and apps just like apple.
introducing this tab at the same price point as the already established and ridiculously popular ipad with no apps and dev support was a quick and sure way to failure.
Such a shame. I really would have liked to see a mature webos platform as a strong competitor.
ps. I am writing this comment on my touchpad 32gb while listening to grooveshark on another browser window. The speakers are pretty loud and have great audio quality. Too bad Hulu just blocked access.
ps2. I really like the usa today app a lot. Nice job with the design and the use of gestures. That is exactly what touchcreen apps should be like
Defiantly liking WebOS alot but until more development takes place atm I will move to android when it surfaces.
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[Q] Backing up apps

Is there a way to backup my free and paid apps from the Android Market onto my Mac?
Also can this be done without rooting the Xoom?
The reason that I ask is that I recently purchased a xoom, and some of the apps that I had previously paid for on my Nexus were no longer on the Android Market. I also snagged a $99 Touchpad and was hoping to return the Xoom before my return window is up and wait for Android to be released on the Touchpad since a $99 Android tablet would be a great deal. During this time I don't want any more of the apps I paid for to be removed from the Android market.
I would love to be able to backup my apps off of the Xoom, return it, wait for Android on the Touchpad, and then reinstall the apps from my Mac.
Thanks
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Is there a way to backup my free and paid apps from the Android Market onto my Mac?
Also can this be done without rooting the Xoom?
The reason that I ask is that I recently purchased a xoom, and some of the apps that I had previously paid for on my Nexus were no longer on the Android Market. I also snagged a $99 Touchpad and was hoping to return the Xoom before my return window is up and wait for Android to be released on the Touchpad since a $99 Android tablet would be a great deal. During this time I don't want any more of the apps I paid for to be removed from the Android market.
I would love to be able to backup my apps off of the Xoom, return it, wait for Android on the Touchpad, and then reinstall the apps from my Mac.
Thanks
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That's a pretty awesome deal you got there! I was hoping to snag a 16gb Touchpad for $99, but I was a day too late. Once the devs get Android ported over to this thing... man. That's pretty neat. Although I love the Xoom and would never trade it out (unless it is the Xoom 2), having a second tablet would be fun.
Now... to your question: The best way to accomplish this without obtaining root access would be to use the app called MyBackup. It has a free 30 day trial, so I would imagine that you would just use that to backup your apps. Because there would be no need to purchase the full version for what you are looking to do... well, unless you could have a use for the app in the future.
MyBackup On The Android Market
Good luck!
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That's a pretty awesome deal you got there! I was hoping to snag a 16gb Touchpad for $99, but I was a day too late. Once the devs get Android ported over to this thing... man. That's pretty neat. Although I love the Xoom and would never trade it out (unless it is the Xoom 2), having a second tablet would be fun.
Now... to your question: The best way to accomplish this without obtaining root access would be to use the app called MyBackup. It has a free 30 day trial, so I would imagine that you would just use that to backup your apps. Because there would be no need to purchase the full version for what you are looking to do... well, unless you could have a use for the app in the future.
MyBackup On The Android Market
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Thanks for the quick response. I'll give that app a look and see if it'll work for me. Thanks.
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Thanks for the quick response. I'll give that app a look and see if it'll work for me. Thanks.
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No problem. It should be what you need. You can backup all of your apps to either your SD card, or their cloud storage servers for future use. It's a win-win.
Is there anything that allows you to back up paid/protected apps?
The main thing I am concerned about is my emulators since I had purchased Nesoid before on my phone and then when I bought my Xoom it was no longer available on the market.
I purchased another emulator for my xoom, I'm just afraid if it takes a bit for Android to come to the Touchpad that there may not be any emulators on the app store.
This was one of the main reasons I wanted an android tablet since it's great to be able to connect the wiimote via bluetooth and play some of my old games.
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Is there anything that allows you to back up paid/protected apps?
The main thing I am concerned about is my emulators since I had purchased Nesoid before on my phone and then when I bought my Xoom it was no longer available on the market.
I purchased another emulator for my xoom, I'm just afraid if it takes a bit for Android to come to the Touchpad that there may not be any emulators on the app store.
This was one of the main reasons I wanted an android tablet since it's great to be able to connect the wiimote via bluetooth and play some of my old games.
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I was pretty sure that it would back up all apps, paid ones included. It's the best app backup manager on the market that does not require root access. Possibly you can try Astro File Manager, as it also has a built in backup app manager. Not sure if it backs up paid and protected apps though. Worth a shot.
But, having root access may be the best and only way to grab both paid and protected apps. Titanium Backup kills all other app backup managers, hands down. It's the rooting swiss army knife for sure, and is highly recommended. I use it all the time. Works like a charm.
And I hear ya about the emulators. They were a few bucks each, as I have some of them. Plus I loves me some old school gaming on my Xoom.

What budget Android Tablet uk

Hi,
I am an avaid htc desire fan and think I am looking for a android tablet. I really like the apps available to me on the htc, and do a bit of app development/rom. What I really would like is a cheap android tablet, that runs everything that the htc desire has (I could probably lose telephony). It would have to be possible to root the tablet, and flash it.
I would only need a modest size touch screen, but a camera/vid would be good. Oh yes if possible it must have a reasonable battery life also.
Does such a device exist (yet)? If not whats the nearest available. I have looked around the internet but have never really been convinced that the reviews are that good. I know there are real fellow nerd/techyheads here so I would value your ideas.
I have no hands on experience of a tablet at all.
Kindle fire.
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Thanks,
Thats given me at least something to focus on.
I've picked up a couple of 'Scroll Essentials' 7" tablets for the kids for xmas, running vanilla 2.3
omfg they're slow! Think i need to wait until some custom roms are around.
Can't really moan for 70 quid though!
You could search Ebay for a cheap used tablet .
Which tablets are rootable
Hi All,
thanks for the responses to date, but im still confused. Are tablets generally rootable, if so what methods are available?
I can find little info on rooting them. I have heard that the kindle fire is rootable, but
thanks
I would really preffere a rooted tabled with a camera/vid device.

Google TV box

So this is new to me but anyone know anything about these? Are they just like a phone without the phone? able to be rooted and flashed with custom recovery and rom? Worth getting?
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Google tv has had a serious lack of... Well improvement. They are not just like a phone. In fact within the past week they just recently got access to Google play movies and apps (my understanding)
My understanding is that you can root them while with lack of sales, unless you are a developer, it will be difficult tot find root tools. Although I am sure it is possible. Also it runs a custom tv optimized os that is quite enjoyable and intuitive to use.
Is it worth it? Well that depends on what you are going to use it for. If you own a lot of Google play movies and want to watch on something besides a small screen then I would say possibly. If you are planning on putting apps games etc. then I would say no. If you are planning on doing that I would say this is your best bet. http://www.ouya.tv
It is supposedly a gaming system based on Android. It will also have access to Google play I'm sure with its ease of root.
Hope this helps.

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