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I consider buying this phone. But I don't want to before it's rooted. Thought we could discuss it here. Or is it delivered open?
sindrefyrn said:
I consider buying this phone. But I don't want to before it's rooted. Thought we could discuss it here. Or is it delivered open?
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Yesterday I was searching for the direct quote from Paul (modaco) regarding this; at least I think it was him who said this...
Basically, unless I made this up in my head, he (if it were him) stated that the oem unlock functionality built into the bootloader has been removed.
Of course this is all speculative until I can find that damn quote
I strongly doubt that this has the same oem unlock features as the Nexus. The OEM unlock is most likely only requested by Google, and I do not think that HTC will do the same thing. It would be awesome, no doubt about it, but hey, lets be realistic.
I guess we'll just have to wait until the device gets sent out to review.
Zappza said:
I strongly doubt that this has the same oem unlock features as the Nexus. The OEM unlock is most likely only requested by Google, and I do not think that HTC will do the same thing. It would be awesome, no doubt about it, but hey, lets be realistic.
I guess we'll just have to wait until the device gets sent out to review.
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Guess you're right. Hope there will be some kind of exploit we can use. Or a leaked RUU with eng SPL or anything.
Do we know who is going to root / make a custom rom for it?
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Do we know who is going to root / make a custom rom for it?
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I think (and hope) someone will manage to root it, unless it's delivered open. But at the moment we don't know.
Altoguh, I've heard that it's using the same radio and hboot as Nexus One. Therefore, they should be able to use the same ROMs.
hey it's almost 100% that it will be rooted! is there anything in the world of computers that is not hacked ??? if it's not like the same day of it's release like the nexus (which was even before its release) it will be rooted in some days!!!
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hey it's almost 100% that it will be rooted! is there anything in the world of computers that is not hacked ??? if it's not like the same day of it's release like the nexus (which was even before its release) it will be rooted in some days!!!
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I just hope that it's not that every good developer have bought Nexus One, and therefore doesn't bother trying to root the Desire.
i don't think so, as every enthusiast will try to have this phone. Also i see many "hackers" being involved in more than two or even three mobile phones very often in this forum so we hold our chance
This should prove to be interesting to watch unfold...
random thoughts...
-The usual suspects seem to be fully wrapped up in Nexus development. Hard not to be with such a fun device What does this mean for the desire? Not sure.
-oem unlock appears to not be present in the desire's rom. if the desire is built on the same everything else (with sense on top) as the nexus, which has not bee rooted any other way beyond oem unlock, I'm not sure how someone will circumvent the lockdown. Perhaps without oem unlock, people will be forced to get creative? *shrug*
-The desire's rom works on the nexus; to me this says one thing...there is little->no reason for anyone with an n1 to look into a desire as long as desire images keep leaking.
All random thoughts but it would seem that possibly the desire may wind up being a consumer product rather than a hobbyist product...only time will tell though
I hope it will be more then a consumer product. The reaseon I'm buying the desire is that it will be released in belgium the nexus one isn't.
Yeah, I'm intrigued about this too- ordered an HTC Desire earlier today for delivery beginning of April, but no idea if i'll be able to root it and stick a Nexus rom on it!
Will be keeping an eye on these threads, just about to pre-order the Desire.
Hi guys
preordered one too, coming from a Touch HD. Til now on the online shop I ordered its stated to arrive at the end of march. Hope they can hold this date. Cant wait to see this device beeing rooted
Ascenca
hmm, I really want a snapdragon+ phone with sense on t-mobile usa. or even just a snapdragon one that is for consumers.
It needs time, I think. Because it´s not to buy, I mean before the HTC Hero came out, do we know it has root? NO When it´s out it needs a little time, and we have root believe me.
sorry for my bad english
I have a few questions, i want to buy a htc desire but i come from winmo world so i don't understand everything...
If the phone doesn't get rooted...
-will it be still possible to install .apk directly on the phone ?
-will it be still possible to upgrade 'operators' roms to official or cooked roms ?
tibey said:
I have a few questions, i want to buy a htc desire but i come from winmo world so i don't understand everything...
If the phone doesn't get rooted...
-will it be still possible to install .apk directly on the phone ?
-will it be still possible to upgrade 'operators' roms to official or cooked roms ?
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-yes.
-no.
Nexus
I've got the Nexus One, and just wanted to point out a few things (from my perspective)
The Nexus one runs Desire / Sense - BUT flash in the camera is bad, and so is bluetooth. (I used to have a HTC Magic, running HTC Hero / Sense on it, never really worked as good as my friends Hero, so history repeats itself - even with my friend selling his Hero to buy a Desire
So there are a difference in the hardware
the Nexus was rooted very fast, but this is because Google intended the phone to be rooted, this is Google behavior, and clearly not HTC behavior.
I don't see why a developer finding a root method in the Nexus without using the google "practices" to root, would publish their findings for the Nexus, so there might be a couple of ways to root the Desire right when it comes out.
thats just my 2 cents. (For what they were worth)
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-yes.
-no.
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But if the desire is rooted will it be possible for the custom/official roms ? are there custom "hardspl" who can be built like in windows mobile ? What are the requirements ?
(It scare the **** out of me to be stuck with an operator rom as you can see xD)
so yesterday i returned my moto xoom because it was overheating b4 i even rooted it. i got a nexus s and now it is bricked. 2dasy im going to have 2 return it. can any1 help me figureout a good excuse to tell the future shop return people? looks pritty bad i return 2 devices in less then 24 hours
edit: the last thing i did was flash gri74 back to stock. im guessin the bootloader is my issue. soo my phone technically isnt hacked or unlocked. just bricked so they cant see my device was rooted.
sounds like you overcooked the SNS setting it too high?
did you install any custom ROM ?
have you tried flashing it back to stock?
does the phone turns on at all?
make sure the battery is fully charged
AllGamer said:
sounds like you overcooked the SNS setting it too high?
did you install any custom ROM ?
have you tried flashing it back to stock?
does the phone turns on at all?
make sure the battery is fully charged
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i didnt cook anything i dont think
no rom
phone wont turn on or even accept a charge i dont tihnk
wont respond to any commands ro show in adb or fastboot.
and ther batytery was at 90% when this happened.
any1 think of a good excuse
just tell them the phone was very hot when you woke up after leaving it charging overnight
defective phone
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just tell them the phone was very hot when you woke up after leaving it charging overnight
defective phone
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thx thats exactly what i did. grabbed a htc desire hd instead since nexus s is for the advanced user. i consider myself an advanced user but i had major issues wth the nexus s. even after reflashing gir74 or whatever it was called, i didnt have a working radio. which i tried flashing and resulted in a brick. thx alot 4 the advice. and i hope the nexus users create a noob proof guide 4 this phone as if sum1 with as much expierience with android as me is having issues, i can only imagine whut a complete noob would b thinkin about if he tried rooting. check my htc desire noob proof video guide here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=12813521#post12813521
im quite sure if someone creates a thread like this, people will have less issues with the nexus plus the creator will get lots of thx you's and all around respect from the community. just an idea thou. worked 4 me with my desire as i had like 17 thx u's until march 30th when i created the thread. now im up 100 plus 11,000 views. good luck to you all
there are many fool proof guide for the SNS
there's no possible way to brick this phone
Hey folks,
I am experiencing big trouble with my phone. When I was updating apps over the market, my phone froze and i had to remove the battery. Since then, my desire s is stuck at the htc logo. i can start the bootloader but selecting "factory reset" causes the bootloader to freeze.
my phone is S-off with alpharevX and rooted, so i think htc won't accept it. i was using virtuous unity 1.27 .
installing a new ruu doens't function also, its stuck when ruu says "restarting bootloader" .
i don't know what to do, it would be great if someone could help me!
Thanks a lot!
morial said:
Hey folks,
I am experiencing big trouble with my phone. When I was updating apps over the market, my phone froze and i had to remove the battery. Since then, my desire s is stuck at the htc logo. i can start the bootloader but selecting "factory reset" causes the bootloader to freeze.
my phone is S-off with alpharevX and rooted, so i think htc won't accept it. i was using virtuous unity 1.27 .
installing a new ruu doens't function also, its stuck when ruu says "restarting bootloader" .
i don't know what to do, it would be great if someone could help me!
Thanks a lot!
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Search for eMMC chip. Sounds like another case. There are several threads with things to try, but if hboot ain't playing ball then sounds like its worth attempting a warranty repair.
Of course, forget to mention you rooted. There is a chance they won't test for it. Else it'll be a repair bill.
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.
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even when i try to get into "recovery mode" theres a white scrren with a htc logo. dunno what to do anymore :-(
mate, follow the thread on advice to return your device in a case of a fried eMMc chip... it may help!
Good luck!
morial said:
Hey folks,
I am experiencing big trouble with my phone. When I was updating apps over the market, my phone froze and i had to remove the battery. Since then, my desire s is stuck at the htc logo. i can start the bootloader but selecting "factory reset" causes the bootloader to freeze.
my phone is S-off with alpharevX and rooted, so i think htc won't accept it. i was using virtuous unity 1.27 .
installing a new ruu doens't function also, its stuck when ruu says "restarting bootloader" .
i don't know what to do, it would be great if someone could help me!
Thanks a lot!
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Very sorry to hear that brother.
Sounds like a dead eMMC to me...
Didnt you read about battery pulling on this forum? Its spread across everyone's signatures for God's sake! I know there's no point stressing on this now but this may serve as a warning to others and help them...
As for Morial, i'd suggest you simply take your device to HTC and tell them you were updating all apps from the market, (DO NOT EVEN TALK ABOUT ROMs, BOOTLOADER, RECOVERY, etc) and it froze, so you had to do a battery pull and now it won't start.
HTC knows this is an acknowledged scenario even on s-on phones and usually just replaces the handset or the eMMC depending on availability, without asking questions. Just go to them like they owe you, not the other way around!!
Again, do not even speak about modding, flashing etc. Just pretend you have the I.Q. of an iPhone owner. That should do the trick.
P.S. iPhone owners, no offence intended.
^^
i brought the desire s today to a local electronic retailer who will send the item to htc. hope they don't recognize that its rooted.
i wasn't browsing xda-developers for about 3 months, so i didnt know about not pulling the battery
anyway thanks for your answers, very nice folks around here!
morial said:
i brought the desire s today to a local electronic retailer who will send the item to htc. hope they don't recognize that its rooted.
i wasn't browsing xda-developers for about 3 months, so i didnt know about not pulling the battery
anyway thanks for your answers, very nice folks around here!
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@Morial, best of luck.
I'm pretty sure you'll get a brand new replacement set!
How long before you hear from them? Did the retailer commit to any timeframe?
dunno, they say it can last about a month. i`ll tell you when i hear from them
Sorry to hear what happened here.
I had a similar issue myself recently here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1257772
Hopefully they will repair it without checking it properly like I suspect they did with me. I pulled my battery out without knowing the eMMC problem too.
When I sent my phone back to HTC they told me that the only way it wouldn't be covered under warranty was if it had been water damaged.
Good luck
bad news
htc said my phone isn't under warranty anymore because of a small damage on the edge of the phone, so they sent me an email in which they proposed to repair it for 210 euros. i think this is ridiculous - my next phone surely won't be an htc-product :-(
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htc said my phone isn't under warranty anymore because of a small damage on the edge of the phone, so they sent me an email in which they proposed to repair it for 210 euros. i think this is ridiculous - my next phone surely won't be an htc-product :-(
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That sucks! How can they do that??
What small damage was on your phone?
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Hi
It happens exactly the same thing yesterday. I updated applications on the market. My HTC has had a lag and when I restarted ... He stuck on the start screen.
Is it possible to reinstall the ROM?
I never install Custom ROM before...
I test that night to install "Clockworkmod Recovery v3.2.0.0"
I rename in "PG88IMG.zip"
I start the bootloader and he do :
SD Checking...
Loading... [PG88DIAG.zip]
No image!
Loading... [PG88DIAG.nbh]
No image or wrong image!
Loading... [PG88IMG.zip]
Checking... [PG88IMG.zip]
But he doesn't propose me to install it...
Information :
SAGA PVT SHIP S-ON RL
HBOOT-0.98.0002
RADIO-3805.6.02.03_M
eMMC-boot
Mar 30 2011,17:29:31
Is it a problem from my HBOOT version ???
Since when did having some small damage on the corner of the phone void a warranty !! Confused...
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they said that my software failure could be a result of letting the phone fall on the ground. so they cannot say which was the cause for the phone to not boot anymore - letting it fall as the y suggest by the damage on the phone or the market suicide.
i am pretty disappointed by htc. i guess i won't buy a htc phone anymore :-(
morial said:
they said that my software failure could be a result of letting the phone fall on the ground. so they cannot say which was the cause for the phone to not boot anymore - letting it fall as the y suggest by the damage on the phone or the market suicide.
i am pretty disappointed by htc. i guess i won't buy a htc phone anymore :-(
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That's is terrible. Shame on HTC.
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During updating a lot of apps in same time Desire S was stuck and in next few seconds screen became black. It has no response. I can't turn it on. I tried to plug to wall charge - nothing, even no green/red LED blinking.
DS was sent to worldwide HTC by supplier for warranty repair. The answer that I got today is : bootloader file is absent, its avoid warranty case, because only one possible explanation for this - not allowed attempt to update firmware.
Have I any chance to bring my DS to life ?
Thanks in advance.
Have you modified the phone software yourself in any way (S-OFF or rooted?)
Tell us more about how you bought it. For example, did it come as part of a call contract package or did you buy it unlocked outright?
- Steve
No, I didn't modify the phone in any way. Phone was purchased in cellphone shop, unlocked and without call contract package.
Supplier propose me to take Motorola Atrix 4G or HTC Sensation XE in addition of USD 70 (50 euro) or USD 150 (110 euro), respectively.
dronichev said:
No, I didn't modify the phone in any way. Phone was purchased in cellphone shop, unlocked and without call contract package.
Supplier propose me to take Motorola Atrix 4G or HTC Sensation XE in addition of USD 70 (50 euro) or USD 150 (110 euro), respectively.
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Ah, OK.
It seems that you would be fully justified in pressing for a repair or replacement.
Had you been here in the UK, I would have suggested that you wrote to the supplier politely explaining that unless they filfilled their obligations under a valid warranty claim, you'd take them kicking and screaming through our "small claims court" procedure. This invariably has the desired effect.
Not sure what options you might have in your country, but in any case if you chose to push the warranty claim, I'd suggest that it's usually most effective put stuff clearly (yet firmly) in writing.
"Avoid warranty" answer was received from worldwide HTC not supplier. Supplier agree to replace the phone but DS is not in stock so he offer to me Atrix or upgrade to Sensation.
But I really like my DS and before I'll take something else I want to know is there any chance to bring back to life DS.
dronichev said:
"Avoid warranty" answer was received from worldwide HTC not supplier. Supplier agree to replace the phone but DS is not in stock so he offer to me Atrix or upgrade to Sensation.
But I really like my DS and before I'll take something else I want to know is there any chance to bring back to life DS.
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OK, gotcha. Could be worse I guess.
I'm not an expert on boot issues but your DS sounds a bit doomed
Anyone else ?
Anyway, hope you resolve it to your satisfaction!
As I've read here on the forums, simultaneously updating apps from market on a Desire S with faulty EMC chip result in bricked phone. This SHOULD be covered by warranty. Newer market versions don't even update apps simultaneously but take them one at a time from a queue.
You might try the solutions ofered in some topics here but as you described the issue, looks like your Desire is bricked already.
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So, there is no chance to bring back my DS ?
In this case can you advice please what to choose instead : Motorola Atrix 4G or HTC Sensation XE ?
anyone????
dronichev said:
So, there is no chance to bring back my DS ?
In this case can you advice please what to choose instead : Motorola Atrix 4G or HTC Sensation XE ?
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Nope, as from now, there is no way to do it ourselves. You need to get the Emmc chip repaired by HTC
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I think my ATT htc one x may be hard bricked...
I was playing around with ROMs and lost track of time. The last recovery I had on there was clockworkmod (was going back and forth between it and twrp).
I was trying to install the new jellybean rom and it kept on giving me an "assert failed" error. At this point, I deleted the assert lines from the recovery script as advised by one of the posters, and ran the install again. Went through... rebooted and...
The phone is completely dead now. I think it may have discharged? I plugged it in to the wall socket and nothing... absolutely no lights, no screen..... Power+ vol down does not work either....
Please help me, is there any way to recover from this situation?
Wrong subforum.
You don't flash a Tegra One X ROM to your Qcom S4 One X did you? I assume the partition layouts are quite different, so this is bad.
Rusty! said:
You don't flash a Tegra One X ROM to your Qcom S4 One X did you? I assume the partition layouts are quite different, so this is bad.
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Doesn't seem like a rare thing occurring. Either people are overseeing this or they are not really aware that for you can't flash a rom made for a tegra quad core device onto a dual krait.
I used this....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1763240
Sheesh..... Is this meant for the tegra? I never thought I would do such a thing.... I was aware of the issue/hardware differences....
Is there any hope? Actually, in device manager it shows up as QHSUSB_DLOAD and I heard thats a bad sign?
If it cannot be fixed, does anyone have an estimate about how much HTC would charge to reflash/fix it?
My signficant other is as po'ed at me as can be... especially since I had really pushed for the upgrade.... man...
Yes it's meant for the Tegra One X, that's why it wouldn't install (that, and it's not in the AT&T One X section). You bypassed the check the install script does to make sure you're installing it on the right phone.
In short, yes you have buggered it, QHUSUSB_DLOAD is a state where you can write things to the phone, but whether anyone as done any research into it on the S4 One X I don't know.
As for getting it fixed, I have no idea on cost, however... if you convince HTC that you didn't do it yourself, it might be possible to get it done under warranty.
Edit: Did a bit of research and /system on the Tegra One X is is HBOOT on the S4 One X, that's why it's ruined your phone.
htc would just replace the motherboard and charge for that - loads of people have reported the cost its something like £169 to replace motherboard, which would of course un brick it.
Have you tried to keep it plugged in to a charger for an hour or so? My HOX was dead too but started to flash red light after an hour, moment after solid light and it booted
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He doesn't have an HBOOT any more, there is nothing he can do.
This is why people should stop being stubborn and call that phone HTC One XL. These kinds of situations would happen sooner or later.
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I guess I did... I actually had come to that page via google and since, perhaps I was a bit sleepy, did not verify the source... should have....
Is there any fix at all? Like loading the drivers and reformatting it or something?
Im a bit confused about the motherboard replacement: since its a software issue, cant HTC fix it with a software update? Ill call them today and post the answer on this group as well, but knowing what I am dealing with may help in talking with them.
Thanks to everyone again
No fix that I'm aware of. You really need to be asking this in the XL section though. The phones really are quite different, we don't have the mode you're stuck in (not being Qualcomm based).
Rusty! said:
No fix that I'm aware of. You really need to be asking this in the XL section though. The phones really are quite different, we don't have the mode you're stuck in (not being Qualcomm based).
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Thanks... Someone in that section has kindly agreed to see if he/she can help me... Keeping fingers crossed... doent feel right to tell att that my phone stopped working for a replacemenf...
Hate to say it but your phone is dead. It's not revivable ar this time and so your only option is jtag or warranty replacement because you overwrote the Hboot.
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Don't let morals get you on that one. Lie to them, if not for yourself than for me.
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RobertX1 said:
I used this....in device manager it shows up as QHSUSB_DLOAD ..
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I am sorry, QHSUSB_DLOAD is dead end at every HTC phone. There is nothing you can do. I know what I am speaking, I hardbrick my last HTC in the same way.
But quarrantee will work, HTC cannot find out that you root it. They will replace you mainboard..as someone already mentioned
Not quite, there is a debricking method for the Sensation that can recover from it.
In most cases though, you're right.
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I am sorry, QHSUSB_DLOAD is dead end at every HTC phone. There is nothing you can do. I know what I am speaking, I hardbrick my last HTC in the same way.
But quarrantee will work, HTC cannot find out that you root it. They will replace you mainboard..as someone already mentioned
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i already revived 2 sensation xe's from the qhusb_dload.
need linux though but it definetly is possible:-o
Please move this thread to the XL subforum
miniterror said:
i already revived 2 sensation xe's from the qhusb_dload.
need linux though but it definetly is possible:-o
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Thanks... any hope for this being possible for the one XL? Also, could the mods please move this thread to the ATT section (sorry for posting it in the wrong section... but I really didnt know the importance of the difference.... wanna look at my phone? )
Thanks everyone. I think I might send the phone to HTC to get it repaired.... although the s***ty thing with that is that Ive heard they take that opportunity to replace the motherboard instead of just replacing the software, and hit me with a big bill rather than a reasonable/fair price....
So.... trying to be honest (by not returning the phone as defective to HTC) ensures that I get scammed by them... :victory:
Possible? Yes of course, that's the point of that mode as I understand it, with some other HTC phones you can hook it up to a RIFF Box and load it up.
Likely? Probably not, as it'll take people looking into it in depth to figure it out and as far as I can see, no-one has/is looked/is looking into it on the OXL.
It really does look like you'll need to send it to HTC, which (as you sound quite honest) will probably be expensive.