Not sure if this is the right section to post in as I have a slightly off topic question.
I'm looking to replace my desire as I have had it for nearly 2 years. The natural phone to get would be a sensation or galaxy s2. But these phones are too big, I don't need a 4.3" screen.
So I'm after a phone that is similar size to the desire but with a higher spec such as dual core and 1gb RAM.
So far, I found a Motorola atrix which meets my requirements, are there any others?
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Anyone got any views?
personaly i want a sensation XL or XE
I'm guessing you are on AT&T? The Atrix is a pretty dated phone, and probably not your best choice. It is quite hard to find a phone with a small screen though. Is Android the only OS you are considering?
The Atrix is outdated? Holy eff. What's my Defy then, museum tech? Multi-core and all that stuff isn't much more than a pissing contest (or **** measuring, if you want), as opposed to something that's actually needed.
@325i. I'd say go for the Atrix. I too find the 4.3'' phones too large, so it's really cool that the Atrix is just 4''. It's also a very hackable phone, the folks here have even unlocked the bootloader.
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The Atrix is outdated? Holy eff. What's my Defy then, museum tech? Multi-core and all that stuff isn't much more than a pissing contest (or **** measuring, if you want), as opposed to something that's actually needed.
@325i. I'd say go for the Atrix. I too find the 4.3'' phones too large, so it's really cool that the Atrix is just 4''. It's also a very hackable phone, the folks here have even unlocked the bootloader.
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Ok, aside from the fact that it is a year old, and the fact that it even has a predecessor (atrix 2)..the best reason not to get it...IT'S A MOTOROLA!!
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Ok, aside from the fact that it is a year old
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So? I'm typing this on a 7 year old laptop. Still does it's job just fine. This "always must have the very latest" is a disease of the consumer age.
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You mean successor. But still, so? The Defy has a successor too (Defy+), doesn't mean that the Defy is suddenly useless.
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..the best reason not to get it...IT'S A MOTOROLA!!
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And for the third time: So? My Defy is a Motorola too. But now here comes the big shocker: Despite being a Motorola, it... works. Weird, innit? It works. It provides me all I want. Including CyanogenMod7. CM9 is available too, but the camera and FM aren't yet working on that.
If you're willing to consider another OS, wp7 is amazing. The lumia 800 or focus flash are both outstanding phones with small screens and both easily outperform any android device on the market with a meagre 1.4 GHz processor. Better battery life, smoother experience, great dev support, Xbox live, Microsoft office, I could go on. I'm not saying buy one. I'm saying try one. You won't be disappointed.
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So? I'm typing this on a 7 year old laptop. Still does it's job just fine. This "always must have the very latest" is a disease of the consumer age.
You mean successor. But still, so? The Defy has a successor too (Defy+), doesn't mean that the Defy is suddenly useless.
And for the third time: So? My Defy is a Motorola too. But now here comes the big shocker: Despite being a Motorola, it... works. Weird, innit? It works. It provides me all I want. Including CyanogenMod7. CM9 is available too, but the camera and FM aren't yet working on that.
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Ok, whatever you say. But like the OP said, he has had his phone for 2 years. Which means he is most likely due for an upgrade and will probably his next purchase for 2 years. So if you want to give him the bad advice, and purchase an Atrix to use for the next 2 years, you do that. Just remember, the Atrix will most likely NOT get ICS and most definitely will not get the next version of Android.
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If you're willing to consider another OS, wp7 is amazing. The lumia 800 or focus flash are both outstanding phones with small screens and both easily outperform any android device on the market with a meagre 1.4 GHz processor. Better battery life, smoother experience, great dev support, Xbox live, Microsoft office, I could go on. I'm not saying buy one. I'm saying try one. You won't be disappointed.
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I too asked that. It sounds like for his needs IOS or WP7 would be a better option..
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Ok, whatever you say. But like the OP said, he has had his phone for 2 years. Which means he is most likely due for an upgrade and will probably his next purchase for 2 years. So if you want to give him the bad advice, and purchase an Atrix to use for the next 2 years, you do that. Just remember, the Atrix will most likely NOT get ICS and most definitely will not get the next version of Android.
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That's the case with every android phone... If you get one update you're lucky. On that note, my 13 month old dell venue pro just got it's 8th update.
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So if you want to give him the bad advice, and purchase an Atrix to use for the next 2 years, you do that.
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In two years, I will still be using my Defy. So why couldn't some other person be using an Atrix? Read again what I wrote about this "always the latest" stuff.
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Just remember, the Atrix will most likely NOT get ICS and most definitely will not get the next version of Android.
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Maybe not officially. But CM9 will most definitely be available. That's the cool thing about having a hackable device with a community behind it - you're not limited to the vendor to provide you updates.
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That's the case with every android phone... If you get one update you're lucky. On that note, my 13 month old dell venue pro just got it's 8th update.
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LOL, now I am really finding it hard to believe that you have ever actually used Android. If you want to break it down like that z33, my mt4g received at least 5 updates. 2.2.1, 2.2.2, 2.3.1, 2.3.2, 2.3.3, 2.3.4, and since I'm overseas and not getting updates I am pretty sure it is up to 2.3.6, plus numerous other OTA's with various minor updates. We are obviously talking about updates between different versions of Android. Which now, that Android has grown up, almost all high end phones will receive 2 updates officially, and countless unofficially.
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In two years, I will still be using my Defy. So why couldn't some other person be using an Atrix? Read again what I wrote about this "always the latest" stuff.
Maybe not officially. But CM9 will most definitely be available. That's the cool thing about having a hackable device with a community behind it - you're not limited to the vendor to provide you updates.
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Yup, and my grandmother still has an 800 pound tube television. I can watch the game on it, but I won't enjoy it.
If you think the dev community on the Atrix will be going strong in 2 years...more power to you. 2 years ago and 2 years from now are completely different. Technology is moving at 100mph right now. So if you think I'm ridiculous for using his upgrade to get a better phone at a cheap price...there are 15 million people using an SGSII that will disagree with you. Good day sir.
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So if you think I'm ridiculous for using his upgrade to get a better phone at a cheap price...
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I don't think you're ridiculous. I'm just saying, I don't see any issue whatsoever in buying an Atrix now, because I truly believe it'll still be a fully adequate phone even in two years time.
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Thanks for all the replies.
Yes, I would like to stick to Android. I have tried an iphone for a few weeks but its not for me.
The main points why the Atrix gets my vote is that the spec is still really good despite the phone being a year old. E.g. dual core and 1gb RAM. Overall, the spec is superior to my desire.
Also, there is a plenty of Dev support available and custom ROMS. Just waiting for a ICS rom which is fully working.
Lastly, in the UK I can buy the Atrix for under £200 which i think is a bargain. I can sell my Desire for around £120ish which works out really well.
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I know the cellphone’s technology change quickly,but I’m really tired to change cellphone.I have used the Simens,Sharp,Samsung before,but all of them have many problem.So do u have any idea of which brand’s cellphone can use as long as it can?
If you're going to get an Android device and have a bit of patience, I'd say wait until Q4 2010.
I know it's a huge pain (heck, I've been playing the waiting game for years now) but it is obvious that a big technological leap is on the way: higher resolution, dual-core processors, better display technologies and Android 3.0 (which means no longer being dependent on OEMs). It's the first time in years that I can look at cell phone specs and say "Hey... this actually looks relatively futureproof".
Nokia candybar phones last a long time, and my htc blueangel has been used daily since 2004, and still works fine
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I know the cellphone’s technology change quickly,but I’m really tired to change cellphone.I have used the Simens,Sharp,Samsung before,but all of them have many problem.So do u have any idea of which brand’s cellphone can use as long as it can?
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more complex devices= more power and more bugs.
I know MANY people in proffesional environements that are still using old Nokia 61xx/62xx phones. These monochrome display phones still do about 9 years on 1 charge and allow you to read "War and Peace" on the talk time.... oh and they don't crash either and never require rebooting!
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HTC Leo!!!
Capable of running Android too
Moto phonese last forever. I have one that programs music in midi, they;re really hardy as well. If you just need to make calls, this is a good brand to get.
Thank u guys!I just hesitate with Nokia and HTC...btw,where u guys think is better to buy the cellphone?I mean cheaper and good quality..In store or online shop?
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....!I just hesitate with Nokia ...
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What? You mean you don't want a 10 year old phone? WHY???
I doubt you will beat an online price but that would depend very much on your country I guess?
i bought a iphone from an online marketplace whose name seemd to be Topons, and it is still used without any problem though it is cheap.lol... am I a lucky guy?
If it's the genuine device and not some knock-off then I don't see why a phone obtained from any source would be more reliable than any other (assuming the same software etc.).
Probably a blackberry.
The problem with the iphone is you cannot remove the battery.
I kind of feel this thread is a lost cause.
Phones (all tech for that matter) will keep being replaced. You cant buy future proof technology! A top end PC is good for what a year? two years?
A mobile phone a year if your lucky, half a year...?
A TV a few years before something better?
You cant buy a phone now, that will not be 'under-spec' in as little as two years time!
The question you should ask your self is do you really need a more 'powerful' phone, or could you live with what you have now for the next few years?
I own a HTC HD2, and I can honestly say I'll want a new, more 'powerful' phone in a few years to play higher quality video, better games ect.
But do you want that?
My dad is 'tech savi' but hes still using a Sony Ericsson K800i. Because it does everything he needs! (having said that he is getting a desire this year... lol)
As for the build quality, you'd be lucky to find any phone that wont be dead after a few years use! Unless your super careful...
Having said that, that K800i has had a hard life and still works perfectly and looks fine...
Its all about what you need from your device. Technology will just keep advancing.
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i bought a iphone from an online marketplace whose name seemd to be Topons, and it is still used without any problem though it is cheap.lol... am I a lucky guy?
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NO, you got an iPhone, that could never be considered lucky
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NO, you got an iPhone, that could never be considered lucky
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Post = epic win
I still see people using moto razr's, even razr2's. If your not a phone geek and just want a decent reliable phone to make calls and text on, those seem to be the most popular.
I agree with the above post also, if you want something a little more 2010 and future proof, a Blackberry is a good choice too.
It's best to go for the phones that are the most advanced now, such as the nexus one, desire, iPhone 4 and such, cause they will get updates for a long time, and it will be some time before they become out-dated beyond use. For example, the Nexus One and the HTC Desire shall be able to use Android 3.0, Gingerbread, while the others won't.
And go for something like Android, cause with the ROMs and such that are out there, you can easily change its ROM and it will feel like you've bought a new mobile.
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i bought a iphone from an online marketplace whose name seemd to be Topons, and it is still used without any problem though it is cheap.lol... am I a lucky guy?
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a cheap iphone?I think iphone are all the same price,are you sure that you are not buy a fake one?
Gaby5078 said:
I am using Davismicro Hiphone 4GS Quad Band Dual Cards with Wifi Analog TV Java GPS Touch Screen Cell Phone(F073) for about one year. It is cheap and has great functions. What kind of mobile phones do u want?
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Is Hiphone better than IPhone?and where you buy it?
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Is Hiphone better than IPhone?and where you buy it?
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I think hiphone is not better than iphone,it's just a replica iphone.you can buy it in many China wholesale website,like:banggood.com
htc s310 for at least 3.5 years
i have been used htc s310 since i'm a freshman in college, now i am doing my post degree research, it works well now.
Samsung is unveiling a new generation of Galaxy S phones. What does this mean for current Galaxy S users? Are we going to be neglected once Samsung unveils this newer and sexier line of galaxy phones? Could there be cross-development between this generation and the next generation of Galaxy phones? Any Captivate owners planning to abandon ship or reluctantly stay with your current phone?
I'm currently debating whether I should sell my Captivate in a few weeks (I'm sure holiday demand will help increase prices a little ) and grab the newer galaxy phones when they come out, or just stick with this already amazing phone. Decisions decisions...
I'm sticking with mine..I do have to ask you something though..Why are you in a quandary over this..if you actually think this...
or just stick with this already amazing phone
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..Why change to something that may not be ? Are the specs that great on this unreleased as yet phone that you feel compelled to change...or [/I]do you just have to have the latest and greatest out all the time.?
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Mac11700 said:
I'm sticking with mine..I do have to ask you something though..Why are you in a quandary over this..if you actually think this.....Why change to something that may not be ? Are the specs that great on this unreleased as yet phone that you feel compelled to change...or [/I]do you just have to have the latest and greatest out all the time.?
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My quandry is that although this is an amazing phone, the specs on the new phone make it seem amazinger! Also I'm kind of upset that these phones were released around June, I bought mine in August, and Samsung is releasing the next generation of phones in less than a year! At least Apple has the decency to wait a year I know all of this is based on here-say, but who doesn't want the latest and greatest???
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My quandry is that although this is an amazing phone, the specs on the new phone make it seem amazinger! Also I'm kind of upset that these phones were released around June, I bought mine in August, and Samsung is releasing the next generation of phones in less than a year! At least Apple has the decency to wait a year I know all of this is based on here-say, but who doesn't want the latest and greatest???
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It's not like there is really anything on the new phones that the Captivate won't be able to do...
I'm hanging in. With the great developers here I can't see this phone going out of style for awhile yet.
You're the type of user that Samsung drools over.
We first started seeing leaks of the current galaxy S devices in April of 2009... It takes quite a bit of time to go from a few prototypes to actual production.
sticking with my current phone. couldn't afford to upgrade anyway..
There is always going to be something better"just around the corner" ......the wonders of modern technology
Not sure what more I can expect my phone to do at this point though....but I am sure I will upgrade again though not til next summer
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I'm hanging in. With the great developers here I can't see this phone going out of style for awhile yet.
You're the type of user that Samsung drools over.
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LOL I'm not usually the type of person to sell my current phone to get the latest and greatest but like I said, this new lineup looks amazing.
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LOL I'm not usually the type of person to sell my current phone to get the latest and greatest but like I said, this new lineup looks amazing.
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By the same token, if you stand back and compare this with phones that were being sold 2 years ago our current lineup is pretty awsome...
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By the same token, if you stand back and compare this with phones that were being sold 2 years ago our current lineup is pretty awsome...
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+1 to this
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By the same token, if you stand back and compare this with phones that were being sold 2 years ago our current lineup is pretty awsome...
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That's true, but we're not living in 2008 anymore! I'm want to have a handset that will last me through 2012
For me this will last til 2012. Will it be top of the line, no. with the way the technology curve is going I don't see any phone lasting very long on top at all. Not unless they develope hardware that most likely the common public is not willing to spend.
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For me this will last til 2012. Will it be top of the line, no. with the way the technology curve is going I don't see any phone lasting very long on top at all. Not unless they develope hardware that most likely the common public is not willing to spend.
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This phone will be plenty to last at least for two years until my contract is up.
Hell, I bought a PS3 in 2006 and Sony is just about to release the console's most anticipated game ever Gran Turismo 5.
And that will easily last a couple more years before a Playstation 4 is revealed.
Although there will be newer phones, I think the Captivate is future proof for a couple of years.
That is what open-source and apps are for.
I love the captivate currently and the prospect of new phones means more software support in the future that is compatible with it.
Gingerbread not being released on the captivate? A long as a similar phone is and it meets the specs looks like our kitchens will be cooking for a long time.
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This...I just hope they keep developing for the Cap. And if "they" dont, I know someone who will /grin
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I bought my Captivate off contract, and if Samsung releases another phone on AT&T that I like, I'll buy that phone off contract as well. I don't mind having a stockpile of working GSM phones
well it finally happened. not giving up android for anything though. See for yourself.
http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/splash/iphone.jsp
im surprised im the only one that really posted about this
Well, gee let's see:
1) last year's hardware with a different antenna
2) stuck on a CDMA network (while 98% of the world use GSM) that doesn't allow simultaneous voice and data
3) its only mentionable software is the app store (grandma loves playing with those games)
I don't blame people here from not talking about it..
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Well, gee let's see:
1) last year's hardware with a different antenna
2) stuck on a CDMA network (while 98% of the world use GSM) that doesn't allow simultaneous voice and data
3) its only mentionable software is the app store (grandma loves playing with those games)
I don't blame people here from not talking about it..
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1) The phone is less than 7 months old
2) Totally agree here, but then again most Verizon phones are CDMA only
3) The app store, agree with me or not, has some awesome apps in it and is still ahead of Android as far as searching/sifting through the crap goes.
Anywho, I will continue using my HD2 with NAND Android
I think it is weird for someone to buy this phone on February 10th when 4 months later Apple is MORE than likely going to release the iPhone5. If Verizon customers have been weighting years for this device to come to their network, what is the harm in waiting 4 more months to get the newest one. I know it isn't a guarantee Verizon will get the iPhone5 in June but its hard to see why they wouldn't.
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I think it is weird for someone to buy this phone on February 10th when 4 months later Apple is MORE than likely going to release the iPhone5. If Verizon customers have been weighting years for this device to come to their network, what is the harm in waiting 4 more months to get the newest one. I know it isn't a guarantee Verizon will get the iPhone5 in June but its hard to see why they wouldn't.
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My guess would be that the iPhone "5" will really be just a "4S", slight speed boost, maybe more storage, nothing to write home about though. Then next year when the 5 comes out Verizon and AT&T will both get handsets at the same time, in June.
Plus, realize that average customers don't know/care about release schedules. If they did, 6 months after the iPhone is released 0 would sell, which obviously isn't the case. Not everyone chases the latest and greatest devices like we do
if a five comes out- it WILL be a 4s like uberamd said. It wont be worth a new device it will just be something a software update would be. honestly, i also believe that some of the verizon smart phones could best the iphone in a comparison so unless the iphone becomes somthin totally different they may lose business. Hopefully the 4g service will come to verizon sooner than later.
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1) The phone is less than 7 months old
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Yes, the phone was released 7mos ago. The available hardware (as in similar phones with similar or better specs), however, is over a year old.
I can just imagine AT&T and Verizon releasing the iPhone 4GS, AT&T's will be the exact same with HSPA+ and Verizon's will have LTE. Other than that.. no differences.
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Yes, the phone was released 7mos ago. The available hardware (as in similar phones with similar or better specs), however, is over a year old.
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Who cares about specs? Go ask anyone outside these forums who isn't a gadget geek (and by that I mean go ask 99.99% of mobile users) how many MHz the processor in their phone is, or how much RAM it has. They will stare blankly at you. Why? They don't care. What they want is a good experience, and while I may be an Android user I am also willing to admit that the iPhone 4 delivers a silky smooth user experience. From the store to the high res responsive screen, its completely smooth.
I have likely gone from iPhone to Android much more than most people in these forums so I have experienced the pros and cons of each OS. In my experiences outside of geekdom, MHz, GHz, MB of RAM, and dual cores don't matter. UX reigns supreme.
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Who cares about specs? Go ask anyone outside these forums who isn't a gadget geek (and by that I mean go ask 99.99% of mobile users) how many MHz the processor in their phone is, or how much RAM it has. They will stare blankly at you. Why? They don't care. What they want is a good experience, and while I may be an Android user I am also willing to admit that the iPhone 4 delivers a silky smooth user experience. From the store to the high res responsive screen, its completely smooth.
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The OP asked why noone on a TECH FORUM has post about it. That's because people on a TECH FORUM SUCH AS XDA already know about the specs front and back. Learn to read.
The iPhone was sick when they first came out. 3 years later it's still the same phone in a different housing. I don't think I will ever get an iPhone again. Sold my 3g for a G1 when they first came out and never looked back.
Buying one right now would be a waste if you always have to have the latest and greatest with the "4S" or whatever it's going to be called a few months away.
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The OP asked why noone on a TECH FORUM has post about it. That's because people on a TECH FORUM SUCH AS XDA already know about the specs front and back. Learn to read.
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And I was responding to you about why the age of the device is irrelevant. There is no need to respond in that way, quit being so sensitive.
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And I was responding to you about why the age of the device is irrelevant. There is no need to respond in that way, quit being so sensitive.
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And I never said anything about release date or the age of the phone, did I? I said the hardware of the phone is a year old. I'm not being sensitive, i'm just teaching you what your english teacher should've taught you in school.
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And I never said anything about release date, did I? I said the hardware of the phone is a year old. I'm not being sensitive, i'm just teaching you what your english teacher should've taught you in school.
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Well, it was about interpretation. And less than 7 months != 12, and last time I checked a year was 12 months. Just trying to teach you something you should have learned in math class (see how funny that is ).
Also, if you notice, a different user mentioned this I think it is weird for someone to buy this phone on February 10th when 4 months later Apple is MORE than likely going to release the iPhone5. If Verizon customers have been weighting years for this device to come to their network... which started the discussion about Verizon customers in general, not just ones on these forums. Your reply, and attitude, is entirely uncalled for.
So not only do you fail to read but you also get side-track from comment to comment? The available HARDWARE was announced back in January 2009 (with the introduction of the toshiba tg01). That was the starting point. Even phones with bigger screen, bigger RAM, and 1ghz CPU were already available in store at the end of 2009. So since this thread was about the Verizon iphone 4, set to be released in 2011, it'll still be using technology/hardware already available back in 2009, and for the most part, early 2010...making the hardware a year old.
So what does saying the phone is 7mos old have to do with anything I replied to the OP?
I'm starting to think that english is not your first or even second language.
I'm done. Dealing with people like you isn't even worth my time.
So, who really cares ? It's a glorified app launcher anyway. Yea, it's pretty but, it's a apple.
This model is yesterday's news, it's 7 months old (longer before it was orgnally announced) Verizon and Apple know this. Every one who is a iPhone fanboy has been *****ing about AT&T's poor network, so verizon was the answer. So every sucker will go get a iPhone 4 from Verizon that is outdated and last years model JUST TO GET a iPhone on Verizon.
So, when the iPhone 5 (or what ever the next model is called) comes out, I am sure Verizon has there hands in the jar on that one, it will come with LTE and the way it should of been. Everyone who had to have one will be on a 2 year contract so they cant' change unless they pay the $350 or full price for the phone, then the people will be locked in for more years.
I think this iPhone was a model that was just designed to get rushed out the door, sure it will work ALMOST like AT&T's device but, it's nothing new(accept on a CDMA network).
I don't have interest in one but, I have a few family members who are and I hate to see them pay full price for a device that is outdated. I would expect for a flagship device on Verizon that they would do it right.
I would of prefered them to release it done right and wile they were at it, release a few Windows phone 7 models, you know, the better phone anyway
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So not only do you fail to read but you also get side-track from comment to comment? The available HARDWARE was announced back in January 2009 (with the introduction of the toshiba tg01). That was the starting point. Even phones with bigger screen, bigger RAM, and 1ghz CPU were already available in store at the end of 2009. So since this thread was about the Verizon iphone 4, set to be released in 2011, it'll still be using technology/hardware already available back in 2009, and for the most part, early 2010...making the hardware a year old.
So what does saying the phone is 7mos old have to do with anything I replied to the OP?
I'm starting to think that english is not your first or even second language.
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Wow do you like to talk back or what cookie?
As for the iPhone. Sorry fellers. It's a sick phone. So what if the 'hardware' is old? It has a higher resolution than almost any other phone right? How is that "old"? Also the Retina is way better than this "SLCD bs". I love the Super Amoled though.
Not only this, it doesn't NEED a dual core! Or anything more than it has even. Why? Because it runs intensive 3d games! Because it is fluid and smooth! What do you expect them to do?
All it's missing is a 4g radio. And it's way too early for that anyways. Why? 10mbps isn't real 4g. 10mbps isn't worth mentioning. I get 7 on T-Mobile THREE g. I'll get a 4g phone when it's 20+. Also then iPhone 4g will be out. For both AT&T and Verizon maybe?! Maybe! Lmao.
Either way. CDMA iPhone = ... Bad ESN + Flash to Cricket. Cheapass phone cheapass plan no contract. That's what I'd do. If I wanted an iPhone. But I have an iPod Touch and I love my T-Mobile service and my Nexus S.
And what's your huge problem with the CDMA iPhone 4? Cause CDMA is "crap" or something? Lolwut? Do you have any idea how big of a company Verizon is? Why is a CDMA company so successful? Why exactly do you think Apple is selling a CDMA iPhone?
Blah whatever. Haters gonna hate. But these haters must be nervous and threatened by an iPhone that isn't on AT&T crap. Honestly, I'm glad I have the choice to have an iPhone with 3G that isn't on AT&T if I want now. Doesn't mean I like the iPhone or am going to get one. But I'm glad I have the option.
Choice is a good thing.
^ CDMA is small as hell when compared to the rest of the world.
Anyway I guarantee this iPhone will sale more than everything on the market.
Oh and every game is not silky smooth on the iPhone. They crash and lag just like on Android. Do your research. Not all of them but there are some.
ugg did i start a fanboy war? dam im sorry.
well anyway i just saw what moto is releasing soon and they will be giving everything a run for their money. they have a tablet, the bionic, cliq2 and atrix. i am def getting the droidbionic.
it. is. sick.
Hi all. As I'm sure you can see, this is my first post on XDA. This seemed like the perfect smartphone related community, so I joined up, and I look forward to becoming a long time active member. Now, to the point of this thread. I am looking to pick up my first ever smartphone(yes yes let the laughter out, I still own a Nokia from the stone age, and its' embarrassing to pull it out in public lol). I really had my heart set on the Samsung Galaxy S II LTE. By the way, I am from Toronto, Ontario, Canada, and am a Rogers Wireless customer, and that is their version of the Samsung Galaxy S II. But after extensive research, which actually brought me to XDA, I found out that they have a massive screen defect issue with the vertical lines and blobs. Although, some people, from what I've read, have said that it isn't such a big deal, while others just can't stand it. With that information, I am back at square one. I do not know what phone to get. The Samsung Galaxy Nexus is just way too big in my opinion, as I have held one. And next to Samsung, I think the best wireless company would probably be Motorola. With that, I was thinking about possibly picking up the Motorolo RAZR. Is that a good choice over the Galaxy S II? Bad choice? It has gotten some stellar reviews, but it seems that the Galaxy S II is the superior phone out there. So my question is, what should I get? I know a few people that have had issues with their HTC's, so I'm not really leaning toward them. What should I do? This is driving me crazy. I want a new phone sooooo badly, but don't know what to choose. Any help or advice is truly appreciated!! Thank you so much.
Motorola doesn't look so good when it comes to updating their devices, if you are to consider that the atrix has not been announced on their road map to ICS. That may change, but for now, it doesn't look like they are keen on updating their devices.
Just to point it out, every phone has issues, but usually it is a minority that experience these issues. So just saying, a HTC phone will have the same amount of issues as a Samsung one. But now comes my bias, I love my sgs 2, and would fully recommend it.
I'd go for the LTE SII, it's a very nice phone and one problem that only a couple people are reporting should never discourage you from getting a good phone
Wait. Wait for more native ics phones. If you can hold out, I'd recommend you wait for a phone that already has the new firmware.
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well my suggestion goes against what you are looking for, but it's a rock solid performer; HTC Droid Incredible 2. it's a 3G only device, it's about six months old, and has a great community behind it. there are a few great stock ROMs to select from, and quite a few Sense 3.5 ROMs as well.
this is my first android device, and my second HTC device. i am very happy with it, and i have no buyer's remorse given the latest and greatest new phones on the market. it handles everything i throw at it, it has no compatibility issues on the Market for my uses. i'm not much of a phone gamer, but it plays my tower defense games like Sentinel 3 smoothly.
battery life is great for me. i can get a day out of it with my normal use; gmail on push, about an hour's worth of calling, 40-50 sms, 30-45 minutes of gaming, 30 minutes of forum and web browsing, and maybe 100MB of downloads.
give our forum a look-see, i think you may be impressed. but is you have your heart set on LTE, you will have to look elsewhere.
Me too!!
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Kailkti said:
I love my sgs 2, and would fully recommend it.
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Is your SGS2 the Skyrocket(American equivlent to the Canada S2 LTE)? Cause it seems that the problem is most widespread on these devices. If I could get a normal S2 on my provider, I would own one right now!!
cordell507 said:
one problem that only a couple people are reporting
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It seems to be pretty widespread...
slapshot30 said:
wait for a phone that already has the new firmware.
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Samsung announced that all S2's would be getting ICS from what I've read.
International sgs 2. I wont let myself be boggled down by those monopolistic carriers.
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International sgs 2. I wont let myself be boggled down by those monopolistic carriers.
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I would so be down to have an international one shipped to me except:
a)When it comes to a phone, I prefer to buy a brand spanking new device.
b)I'm the type of person, especially for a purchase like this, that likes to see/hold the product before I buy it.
if you ok with leaving rogers it seems like virgin mobile in canada has a great selection of good phones.
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if you ok with leaving rogers it seems like virgin mobile in canada has a great selection of good phones.
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I do like Rogers, but leaving them is a possibility. If I did though, I would have to go with Telus instead of Virgin.
Dont get motorolla anything.... with locked bootloaders development fot the phones is bad... go with a Samsung... I have a Captivate running ICS and i love it...
wouldnt trade it for anything....unless its an actual Galaxy Nexus lol
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Dont get motorolla anything.... with locked bootloaders development fot the phones is bad... go with a Samsung... I have a Captivate running ICS and i love it...
wouldnt trade it for anything....unless its an actual Galaxy Nexus lol
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Yea I've pretty much made my decision, I'm going to go with the Galaxy S II LTE.
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Yea I've pretty much made my decision, I'm going to go with the Galaxy S II LTE.
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Good choice
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look hands down any htc or or google device is the only device i would recommend for development
You know, every phone has its defect. Theres just no such phone that doesnt have any problems with its production.
You saw many messages about defective screen, thats only because SGS2 is one of most popular smartphones right now, and there are many buyers. Many phones, some % of them is defective.
Happy ppl got their SGS2 without defect and they are using it, and dont complain. But only those who got some problem, go to forum, do research and so on. They post about their problem. There are many ppl with such problems, but there are much more ppl who are lucky to have their phone without any defects or whatever problems.
Chances to get such phone with defect is very small. Theres just some % of phones which are defective. Imagine situation: 100 motorolas sold out, 1 of them (1%) was defective . You go to forums and see only 1 post about defective phone. 100000 SGS2 sold out, and 1000 of them (its same 1%) was defective. You go to forums and see OMG 1000 posts about defective SGS2, but it is the same % as motorolas. Just different quantity.
all the numbers I used are just an example
So.. SGS2 is a good choice.
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You know, every phone has its defect. Theres just no such phone that doesnt have any problems with its production.
You saw many messages about defective screen, thats only because SGS2 is one of most popular smartphones right now, and there are many buyers. Many phones, some % of them is defective.
Happy ppl got their SGS2 without defect and they are using it, and dont complain. But only those who got some problem, go to forum, do research and so on. They post about their problem. There are many ppl with such problems, but there are much more ppl who are lucky to have their phone without any defects or whatever problems.
Chances to get such phone with defect is very small. Theres just some % of phones which are defective. Imagine situation: 100 motorolas sold out, 1 of them (1%) was defective . You go to forums and see only 1 post about defective phone. 100000 SGS2 sold out, and 1000 of them (its same 1%) was defective. You go to forums and see OMG 1000 posts about defective SGS2, but it is the same % as motorolas. Just different quantity.
all the numbers I used are just an example
So.. SGS2 is a good choice.
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Yeah, I started thinking about this as well before making my decision. And in a worst case scenerio if I do get a defective one, I can exchange it for a brand new device. Thanks for all the input fellas. Much appreciated.
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Wait. Wait for more native ics phones. If you can hold out, I'd recommend you wait for a phone that already has the new firmware.
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it's good to wait but latest phones are not that cheap.
Warranty is your best friend!
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So today Samsung officially announced their new low-end phone, the Galaxy Music.
http://m.gsmarena.com/the_samsung_g...icial_has_a_dualsim_version_too-news-4921.php
Why did this make me rage? It has 850 MHz processor, and 512 mb of ram, and is running touchwiz ICS.
You know, the same touchwiz ICS that Samsung said is unable to run on our phone. We have a faster processor and the same amount of ram as this device, but they said it couldn't run on our device.
Why Samsung? Why would you lie to us?
Wow I agree
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still good news if someone is able to port the ROM to our phones.
The Nexus S has it, lots of other phones do with the same specs. It's who they decide to screw over and sadly our phones that get sold to the smaller carriers using the 1700 spectrum get left out. My old Alcatel phone got left at 2.1, while the new version that came out with identical specs but no slide out keyboard had 2.3. There is other phones at Wind (the Canadian TMobile) that got left behind too. Guess they don't sell enough to justify it or just don't care. lol.
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The Nexus S has it, lots of other phones do with the same specs. It's who they decide to screw over and sadly our phones that get sold to the smaller carriers using the 1700 spectrum get left out. My old Alcatel phone got left at 2.1, while the new version that came out with identical specs but no slide out keyboard had 2.3. There is other phones at Wind (the Canadian TMobile) that got left behind too. Guess they don't sell enough to justify it or just don't care. lol.
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The galaxy s line was one of the best selling android phones at the time. There were millions sold, enough the justify an update. This makes me want to stay away from Samsung, who's to say they won't give the same treatment to the galaxy s 3 or note 2 after a year?
"They" will. Once a phone is no longer "new" the carriers don't have incentives to pay the manufacturer to update the phone. The manufacturer has no incentive once the phone has faded to the point that it no longer can demand a high price from the carrier.
It's not a Samsung thing. It will be for any market players.
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Yeah this isnt something new look at what Motorola just did. They promised ICS to several devices and just went back on that. There is no implied or contractual standing that manufacturers have to provide a update beyond what the phone is shipped with. I know there is some agreements between Google and the manufacturers but with what Motorola just did its proof that is easy to get out of.
When you buy a pc do you get guaranteed updates to the OS for free? Im glad we have the ability to build our own versions and install on the devices.
Look at all the people that bought a brand new PowerPC Mac, then Mac switched to Intel/X86 chips. Sure, for the first year or so, they got updates and people made software for both PowerPC and Intel Mac's, but that faded quick and now the new MacOS's are Intel only and all new Mac software is for Intel based Mac's. People bought a $4000 Mac and got screwed 6 months later.
And as stated above, it's not just Samsung, as I said, my Alcatel got screwed up. They even promised a 2.3upgrade, then poof, nothing. Luckily a devoted XDA dev made a 2.3 for it, but again, it's in the hands of Devs, not the company.
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The galaxy s line was one of the best selling android phones at the time. There were millions sold, enough the justify an update. This makes me want to stay away from Samsung, who's to say they won't give the same treatment to the galaxy s 3 or note 2 after a year?
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Who's to say LG or HTC or Motorola or Huawi or whatever phone you go to, won't do the same thing with the new phone you buy that's not a Samsung.
This is exactly why I'm just going with the next nexus. Either that or the iPhone. Say what you want to about the iPhone but it simply works. It doesn't need custom rooms, hacking, or anything for it to just work smooth, fast, and have amazing battery life. I don't care if it doesn't have the same customizations..I don't spend my entire day customizing my phone. The only time I ever bother doing that is right after I flash a rom and after that I just use it..
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icy56 said:
This is exactly why I'm just going with the next nexus. Either that or the iPhone. Say what you want to about the iPhone but it simply works. It doesn't need custom rooms, hacking, or anything for it to just work smooth, fast, and have amazing battery life. I don't care if it doesn't have the same customizations..I don't spend my entire day customizing my phone. The only time I ever bother doing that is right after I flash a rom and after that I just use it..
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The problem is they get left out too. Siri comes out, won't run on older phones. Next year IOS 7 will be out and will have a bunch of new stuff that only works on the iPhone 5 and 6, and some things that will work on the 4G, and maybe a few things that work for the 4 and 3's. They leave people old in the cold with older phones just as much as Android does. Oh, let's make new phones "Retina" display, then make "retina" only new apps, anyone with a year old iphone 4gs, gets screwed because their phone isn't "retina".
Add that to having to jailbreak a phone just to install a 3rd party app, no thanks. Least we can check a box to install 3rd party apps, not jump through hoops. Despite the fact that jailbreaking is legal, Apple makes it harder and harder every time. Jailbreak your phone just to install an app that wasn't approved from the Apple store, then try and get service on the phone, even for a hardware problem and see the trouble you get.
You guys don't understand how these updates work.
Even if the specs are the same, sometimes is not possible to update. Why? Because the phone has to update from gingerbread to ICS WITHOUT a data wipe. Updates always keep your data intact. With only 512mb of RAM its not possible to patch on a brand new os on top of the old one and retain all of the users data.
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KiNG OMaR said:
With only 512mb of RAM its not possible to patch on a brand new os on top of the old one and retain all of the users data.
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T-Mobile did supply FOTA updates. It was quite possible to do it as they "reserved" the space in the OEM ROMs using a couple files in, as I recall, /data/fota/ which were recreated on boot if they did not exist.
One of the early "discoveries" of the SGS4G was that a user could recover something like 150 MB of space by deleting them and making the directory read-only.
I'm not sure why, within reason, the amount of RAM has much to do with the amount of user data. Only the system and system-app data would need to be migrated. Am I missing something in my thinking?
Edit: Credit may be wrong, but that was one of the earliest threads I found referring to it.
Its all about the money
Just wait for the Aries kernel. Don't even bother waiting for Samsung. AOSP based is better and honestly TouchWiz is nasty, so who cares?
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