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Question about hboot versions...

Does the 1.06 hboot (just downgraded yesterday) allow you to flash roms without flashing the boot.img seperately or is that only possible with S-Off? I reverted my supercid back to TMOB-010 after downgrading if that makes any diff.

Daiskei said:
Does the 1.06 hboot (just downgraded yesterday) allow you to flash roms without flashing the boot.img seperately or is that only possible with S-Off? I reverted my supercid back to TMOB-010 after downgrading if that makes any diff.
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If you use TWRP then it does, its the reason I downgraded.

I'll sneak in a question here...
Apart from the official OTA not working, which doesnt work with unlocked bootloader anyway, is there any downside with downgrading hboot?
Im still not sure why the hboot would need downgrading, but everyones talking about it so I guess there gotta be a reason for it lol

Goatshocker said:
I'll sneak in a question here...
Apart from the official OTA not working, which doesnt work with unlocked bootloader anyway, is there any downside with downgrading hboot?
Im still not sure why the hboot would need downgrading, but everyones talking about it so I guess there gotta be a reason for it lol
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OTA can be flashed on unlocked bootloader but need to have stock recovery. there is no downsides but a bunch of upsides like TWRP flashing boot.img also change radio and wifi partitions and also do this sweet mod.

Concur with Darknites--
I was lucky and got .06 "out of the box". Don't need ADB/Fastboot/Flash Image GUI for boot images.
Can flash all roms with boot image inside them and any radio/recovery I want thru Fastboot.
Only now just started using CM Installer to flash whatever radio I want on CM roms--but, that is a different matter.

I just did the last official OTA update (I actually found nothing wrong with that update except the battery history screen) and now i have Hboot 2.15.
Can I downgrade to Hboot 1.06 (the original Hboot i got with the device) and then root the device?
Thanks

yz250il said:
I just did the last official OTA update (I actually found nothing wrong with that update except the battery history screen) and now i have Hboot 2.15.
Can I downgrade to Hboot 1.06 (the original Hboot i got with the device) and then root the device?
Thanks
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Yes, you can

[HOWTO] [HTC One SV] Unbrand your phone to get the OTA updates

Bonjour everyone, here's a little guide on how to unbrand your phone in order to get the OTA updates notifications directly and be able to install them.
If you want to get S-OFF one day on your One SV, read this first. You need to change CID to SuperCID to do so, and it's not possible (for the moment) if you upgrade to JB
Basically this works as long as your phone model is sold unbranded somewhere in the world and that the people having such a phone got an OTA update.
For now, ther's no way to change CID if you're running JB and are S-ON. That means that this only work for One SV's running ICS who want to get the OTA updates.
As far as I know, it works on K2_U and K2_UL, since they both got an OTA update to JB.
The trick is simple, I didn't invent it and haven't been able to find its original founder, but thanks a lot to her or him !
I'm basically just a messenger here since I only tried out some stuff that worked with other phones, so thanks a lot to bkcokota, old.splatterhand and jmztaylor
Don't try it if you're worried, bricks happen, you'd be the only one responsible !
Here we go :
1. First you need to root your phone, here's how.
2. Change you CID using the same method than for the One S.
Personnaly, I changed it to "HTC__203", which is the CID unbranded HTC phones have in France (HTC-FRA).
For example, "HTC__001" is HTC-WWE, which stands for World Wide English.
You can change it to whatever CID you like : choose it well. I can only recommend to use HTC__203 since it's the only one I tried and that it worked, but do as you please !
3. Flash stock recovery back. You'll find it here or here. Flash it like you flashed CWM recovery (into fastboot, using fastboot flash recovery xxxxxx.img).
4. Relock your bootloader. It's possible that it's not necessary, but it can't hurt ("fastboot oem lock", when in fastboot usb)
5. Run a RUU that matches you unbranded CID to get an "unbranded" rom.
You'll find them here, for example. The "RUU_K2_UL_ICS_40_HTC_Europe_1.17.401.5_R....exe" one will work with HTC__203 and HTC__001 CIDs.
6. Go ask your phone if he can find any updates
WARNING : for the moment there's no way to change CID if you upgrade to JB since the newer HBOOT (v2.00) don't let you do it. That means that for now you won't be able to S-OFF if you upgrate to JB using this method. For now...

Nice one!
Only thing i would add for people to know:
if somebody want to get S-Off, they should change the CID to SuperCID 11111111 (or if you want 22222222,...).

old.splatterhand said:
Nice one!
Only thing i would add for people to know:
if somebody want to get S-Off, they should change the CID to SuperCID 11111111 (or if you want 22222222,...).
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Done, sir.
It was only said at the bottom of the message at first, but now I put it at the beginning as well.
There's one thing that I'm trying to get though : according to a lot of people and forums, you don't get OTA when you have SuperCID... but some poeple say they do.
It probably changes depending on the type of HTC phone, but also depending on the OTA (some got the first ones, but not the latest...).

I got the ota notification with SuperCID, i think it depends on more things.
But there i'm not far enough into it.

I have had no success at all. My story:
Updated a branded phone to JB, rooted. Then I did a moonshine S-off and changed CID to HTC__001 (even tried 11111111).
I have downloaded a ICS RUU (couldn't find stock K2_UL so I thought that I would download ICS first and then do OTA to JB) but I am getting error 158. I have checked md5 sum and it matches (http://androidfiles.org/ruu/getdown...0.14_2_10.49.40.11L_release_301902_signed.exe). Any ideas?

If you're on jb and hboot 2.00, that's normal... and written in the first post.

There is information that it is impossible to change CID while on JB and with 2.0 hboot, but I guess that I have had success in changing to superCID (at least this is what I can read in bootloader and using fastboot oem readcid command.
So, as far as I understand newer hboot won't let me use older RUU as well, right?

Is there any chance to make this for the k2cl ( boost mobile ) version?

idr666 said:
Is there any chance to make this for the k2cl ( boost mobile ) version?
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Can you be more specific, what you mean with "this".

old.splatterhand said:
Can you be more specific, what you mean with "this".
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Sorry, I was wondering if there is a way to update this phone ( the k2cl ) to JB

idr666 said:
Sorry, I was wondering if there is a way to update this phone ( the k2cl ) to JB
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Boost has no official jb, but i know that there is work for an custom jb rom for boost.

Oh, thank you for the info. Is there any link about this work in progress?

idr666 said:
Oh, thank you for the info. Is there any link about this work in progress?
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Look here

szympro said:
There is information that it is impossible to change CID while on JB and with 2.0 hboot, but I guess that I have had success in changing to superCID (at least this is what I can read in bootloader and using fastboot oem readcid command.
So, as far as I understand newer hboot won't let me use older RUU as well, right?
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old.splatterhand, you seem to know this and that about One SV. No chance for older RUU, right? I can't seem to find a clean WWE JB OTA update. I just want a clean, stock, not modified ROM from HTC and I thought RUU is the only way to go :crying: Any advices?

szympro said:
There is information that it is impossible to change CID while on JB and with 2.0 hboot,...
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This was before moonshine was available. With S-Off i think it should be possible.
So, as far as I understand newer hboot won't let me use older RUU as well, right?
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I think so.
szympro said:
old.splatterhand, you seem to know this and that about One SV. No chance for older RUU, right? I can't seem to find a clean WWE JB OTA update. I just want a clean, stock, not modified ROM from HTC and I thought RUU is the only way to go :crying: Any advices?
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To get it a bit clearer.
At this point i'm not very up to date, thats why i didn't answer til now.
I think (but i'm not sure) you can flash the ruu, if you are on hboot 1.0.
And as you are S-Off you should be able to downgrade hboot. But this is a very risky point, you can easily brick your device. Here is, how you have to do:
rollon76 said:
To change hboot you will need a PL80IMG.zip on sdcard with android-info.txt and hboot.img inside it.
reboot to bootloader and flash.
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The thing what makes it difficult, is to get the hboot.img (its inside ics ruu), cause the htc ruu's encrypted and i only have heard about tools for linux which can decrypt it.

Thanks to your reply I did some research and I have managed to do what I wanted. I have downgraded hboot first (by extracting and encrypting ICS RUU using linux), then I could run RUU and now I am stock ICS with S-off and superCID
Should I post some files from RUU? 1.0 hboot or stock recovery? You guys need something?
Thanks for your helping hand old.splatterhand!

szympro said:
Thanks to your reply I did some research and I have managed to do what I wanted. I have downgraded hboot first (by extracting and encrypting ICS RUU using linux), then I could run RUU and now I am stock ICS with S-off and superCID
Should I post some files from RUU? 1.0 hboot or stock recovery? You guys need something?
Thanks for your helping hand old.splatterhand!
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Glad, it worked for you.
Yes, of course, everything is appreciated! You can use this thread, please post ruu name too. You can look at my posts there. Hboot, boot.img, recovery, radio, would be fine.

HERE have other ruu
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/1t2zswod7tc97az/5hbzEgTv80

szympro said:
I have downgraded hboot first (by extracting and encrypting ICS RUU using linux)
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Wow, that's cool !
Did you use rollon's method and flashed PL80IMG.zip in bootloader mode ?
If yes, which android-info.txt did you use ?
If not, how did you do it ?
szympro said:
then I could run RUU and now I am stock ICS with S-off and superCID
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Even cooler for you.
Did you get the ota update notification for JB then ?
Did you manage to apply it ?
Thanks and congratulations !

Hi everyone.
Just a quick message to confirm that rollon's method works.
To downgrade you need to be S-OFF, extract and decrypt (with ruuveal, using linux or a linux virtualbox runned in windows) hboot and androidinfo from ICS RUU, put them in a zip named PL80IMG.zip, put it on your sd card and boot into bootloader. Then you can run the ICS RUU normally and you'll be back to stock ICS, with a "*** LOCKED ***" bootloader (not relocked !), will be able to go back to S-ON using "fastboot oem writesecureflag 3" (thanks to JMZ)...
You'll then have a locked S-ON out of box phone running 100% stock ICS with original boot, recovery and all that... who'll get the 2 JB OTA's...
In case anyone's interested

[Q] Flashing Desire XS version 1.1, S-On

Hi,
I'm totally new in the rooting/customROM business. I want to flash the Desire XS version 1.1 on my desire s, since the 2.3.5 is a little old now...
I just chose this ROM, because it looked good, no idea... good choice?
I tried to avoid having to ask questions, but I reached a point where I can't get the Inforamtions just from reading anymore and am scared of causing irreperable damage to my phone.
I wanted to ask in the Desire XS version 1.1 directly, but wasn't allowed to.
Well I followed this guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525100
and unlocked my bootloader via HTCdev. I'm still on HBOOT 2.00.0002 and S-On
After having done this, I want FIRST do a full recovery of my system, to be able to go back to 2.3.5 if the new ROM doesn't work. Or is this not necessary?
Furthermore I don't want Reaper v2.1, but Desire XS version 1.1. So I downloaded this and copied on the SD. Now, I "have to copy boot.img into the folder where I have adb and fastboot ". But where can I find boot.img within the ROM? I found it 2 times in \Kernel\b2b and \Kernel\patched. Is one of them the right one?!
Also in the Desire XS version 1.1 thread it is says "I recommend that all users be on radio 20.76.30.0835U_3831.19.00.110 before installing this rom"
But I couldn't find any information to switch to this specific radio (just others).
Some information on my phone:
*** UNLOCKED ***
SAGA PVT SHIP S-ON RL
HBOOT-2. 00. 0002
RADIO-3822.10.08.04_M
eMMC-boot
Somewhere in the Desire XS-Thread I found this:
Quote:
Originally Posted by roman_kaczynski View Post
Can i use this rom with hboot 2.02.0002 S-ON and radio 3831.19.00.110?
Yes, you have the last radio.
You are s-on, flash boot.img whit fastboot.
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I'm sorry for opening a new thread, for the many questions and the long explanation, but I tried to make my problem as clear as possible and wasn't allowed to post in the developer's thread about radio and boot.img...
Thanks for the help!

While flashing the rom you have a choice of 2 kernels (b2b and patched). Use the boot.img of the kernel you will be choosing.
If you want to upgrade the radio (while still s-on) you need to relock your bootloader, flash the Ics RUU, unlock your bootloader again. (some users reported camera issues on desire xs with an older radio version, you could try it first with your current radio).

teadrinker said:
While flashing the rom you have a choice of 2 kernels (b2b and patched). Use the boot.img of the kernel you will be choosing.
If you want to upgrade the radio (while still s-on) you need to relock your bootloader, flash the Ics RUU, unlock your bootloader again. (some users reported camera issues on desire xs with an older radio version, you could try it first with your current radio).
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Thanks. I guess I'll take the b2b kernel then, since it's the one mentioned in the description. or is the other better?!
Also when flashed is there a way back to the version I have now?! (since you didn't answer my question regarding a recovery of the current system) Can I afterwards just recover via a RUU?!
I'm still scared of ending up with a broken phone

You can make a backup in recovery before flashing, just remember to flash the boot.img from your backup as well if you restore it.
The main difference is, the patched kernel supports overclocking and undervolting, the b2b doesn't.

but how can I do a recovery? My phone is not rooted yet and S-Off (it's just unlocked), is it possible to create a recovery like that?
edit: I found my exact system (2.10.166.3) on htcdev, I guess in the worst case I'll be able to get it back from there. I hope just hope for the best! =)

eggerph said:
but how can I do a recovery? My phone is not rooted yet and S-Off (it's just unlocked), is it possible to create a recovery like that?
edit: I found my exact system (2.10.166.3) on htcdev, I guess in the worst case I'll be able to get it back from there. I hope just hope for the best! =)
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You have to flash the recovery.img in fastboot. (fastboot flash recovery recovery.img)
Them you can choose recovery from the bootloader.

it worked all good. New system is stable and fluent! lot's of fun, thanks!

[Q] Update to 4.4 ROM from 4.2 with old hboot

Hi guys,
I am on an old JellyBAM ROM (7.7.0), based on CyanogenMod 10.1.0 (Android 4.2.2). I want to try KitKat roms (4.4.2) such as latest CM 11 nightlies etc. So I want to know what all I need to do to get my phone ready to install 4.4 roms.
Some background:
I unlocked my bootloader using HTC Dev Token ID method, installed CWM recovery, and flashed my current and past roms that way - it has been around a year since I made any updates to my phone. So I think some of my firmware is not current enough to support 4.4 roms.
I am S-ON.
My main concern is that I have hboot 1.08. All the guides I see talk about either hboot 2.15 or 2.16.
Recovery: CWM v5.8.3.1
Phone is carrier-free Ville S4 processor. Currently service provider is Koodo - a division of Telus (in Canada).
CID: ROGER001
Radio: 0.16.31501S.02
From the reading that I did, what I understood is:
First I should S-OFF (to make things easier for any future playing around). I was thinking of using the Firewater S-OFF Tool (from http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/0...f-tool-will-unlock-any-htc-device-in-moments/)
I need to update my hboot. This is the step I am most worried about, as I have never flashed a RUU before, and that's what most guides say to do. This thread says to just run the JellyBean RUU [http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2524306]. Would you say that's a pretty safe bet, or is that outdated advice/information?
Once I go S-OFF and update hboot to 2.15, can I just flash CWM (or TWRP) recovery, and flash CM 11 nightlies?
Thanks a lot!

arjundas86 said:
Hi guys,
I am on an old JellyBAM ROM (7.7.0), based on CyanogenMod 10.1.0 (Android 4.2.2). I want to try KitKat roms (4.4.2) such as latest CM 11 nightlies etc. So I want to know what all I need to do to get my phone ready to install 4.4 roms.
Some background:
I unlocked my bootloader using HTC Dev Token ID method, installed CWM recovery, and flashed my current and past roms that way - it has been around a year since I made any updates to my phone. So I think some of my firmware is not current enough to support 4.4 roms.
I am S-ON.
My main concern is that I have hboot 1.08. All the guides I see talk about either hboot 2.15 or 2.16.
Recovery: CWM v5.8.3.1
Phone is carrier-free Ville S4 processor.
Radio: 0.16.31501S.02
From the reading that I did, what I understood is:
First I should S-OFF (to make things easier for any future playing around). I was thinking of using the Firewater S-OFF Tool (from http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/0...f-tool-will-unlock-any-htc-device-in-moments/)
I need to update my hboot. This is the step I am most worried about, as I have never flashed a RUU before, and that's what most guides say to do. This thread says to just run the JellyBean RUU [http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2524306]. Would you say that's a pretty safe bet, or is that outdated advice/information?
Once I go S-OFF and update hboot to 2.15, can I just flash CWM (or TWRP) recovery, and flash CM 11 nightlies?
Thanks a lot!
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Whats your CID?
You don't need to be S-OFF if theres a matching RUU for you BUT you cant install lower HBoot versions while you're S-ON. Flashing a custom recovery is also possible while you're S-ON

LS.xD said:
Whats your CID?
You don't need to be S-OFF if theres a matching RUU for you BUT you cant install lower HBoot versions while you're S-ON. Flashing a custom recovery is also possible while you're S-ON
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I am not sure - I have never checked it before.
I ran CID Getter app, and it's supposed to show me CID in red at the top, but it shows nothing. Some of the app comments say that if the CID is not shown, it means I am SuperCID. I'm not sure about that.
I'm at work, but when I get home, I'll run the fastboot command to find out the CID. I didn't do anything intentionally to get SuperCID, so is it likely that I might be SuperCID? How would I know?

arjundas86 said:
I am not sure - I have never checked it before.
I ran CID Getter app, and it's supposed to show me CID in red at the top, but it shows nothing. Some of the app comments say that if the CID is not shown, it means I am SuperCID. I'm not sure about that.
I'm at work, but when I get home, I'll run the fastboot command to find out the CID. I didn't do anything intentionally to get SuperCID, so is it likely that I might be SuperCID? How would I know?
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SuperCID = 11111111
Other CIDs are listed here: HTC CID LIST
You can easiliy read the CID with WinDroid Toolkit 2.0

LS.xD said:
SuperCID = 11111111
Other CIDs are listed here: HTC CID LIST
You can easiliy read the CID with WinDroid Toolkit 2.0
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Thanks for the toolkit.
cid: ROGER001
Btw, what's the purpose of going SuperCID?
Also, I don't want to install lower hboot. I am on hboot 1.08 and I think I need to install hboot 2.15. Right?
I guess S-OFF isn't absolutely necessary, but would be nice to have. Would you recommend using the S-OFF command from the toolkit you linked?

I Don't know which s-off Method is Best for your cid. Have you found matching RUU with hboot 2.15?
With superCID you can switch to other CIDs e.g. for unbranding your device Also it's needed for "Facepalm S-OFF" (Was the only working method for me)
Sent from my loved HTC One S using (most time buggy) Tapatalk

LS.xD said:
I Don't know which s-off Method is Best for your cid. Have you found matching RUU with hboot 2.15?
Sent from my loved HTC One S using (most time buggy) Tapatalk
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I have seen a few options for RUU, but not sure which one I should use. I don't quite understand the relationships between phone parameters and which RUU to get.
The guide that I linked to in my first post, that I was thinking of using says the following one: (but they don't know what my CID is)
RUU_Ville_U_JB_45_S_TMOUS_3.14.531.11_Radio_1.13.5 0.05.31_10.30.50.08L_release_309489_signed_ICS_2.exe​
Androidruu.com has several other RUUs. I guess since my CID says Rogers, I should use one of the Rogers ones?
RUU_Ville_U_Rogers_WWE_1.70.631.1_Radio_0.16.31501S.02_10.18.31501S.08L_release_254139_signed.exe - 2013-01-29
or
RUU_Ville_U_Rogers_WWE_1.84.631.9_Radio_0.17.31501S.10_2_10.27.31501S.10L_release_265373_signed.exe - 2013-04-29​
But my current provider is Koodo, which is a subdivision of Telus. So should I use one of the Telus RUUs?
RUU_Ville_U_TELUS_WWE_1.70.661.1_Radio_0.16.31501S.02_10.18.31501S.08L_release_254554_signed.exe - 2013-01-29
or
RUU_Ville_U_TELUS_WWE_1.84.661.9_Radio_0.17.31501S.10_2_10.27.31501S.10L_release_265367_signed.exe - 2013-04-29​
I would appreciate any insights into what would be the applicable RUU?
Thanks.

arjundas86 said:
I have seen a few options for RUU, but not sure which one I should use. I don't quite understand the relationships between phone parameters and which RUU to get.
The guide that I linked to in my first post, that I was thinking of using says the following one: (but they don't know what my CID is)
RUU_Ville_U_JB_45_S_TMOUS_3.14.531.11_Radio_1.13.5 0.05.31_10.30.50.08L_release_309489_signed_ICS_2.exe​
Androidruu.com has several other RUUs. I guess since my CID says Rogers, I should use one of the Rogers ones?
RUU_Ville_U_Rogers_WWE_1.70.631.1_Radio_0.16.31501S.02_10.18.31501S.08L_release_254139_signed.exe - 2013-01-29
or
RUU_Ville_U_Rogers_WWE_1.84.631.9_Radio_0.17.31501S.10_2_10.27.31501S.10L_release_265373_signed.exe - 2013-04-29​
But my current provider is Koodo, which is a subdivision of Telus. So should I use one of the Telus RUUs?
RUU_Ville_U_TELUS_WWE_1.70.661.1_Radio_0.16.31501S.02_10.18.31501S.08L_release_254554_signed.exe - 2013-01-29
or
RUU_Ville_U_TELUS_WWE_1.84.661.9_Radio_0.17.31501S.10_2_10.27.31501S.10L_release_265367_signed.exe - 2013-04-29​
I would appreciate any insights into what would be the applicable RUU?
Thanks.
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As long as you are S-ON you can only flash matching RUUs (Rogers). You will need to gain S-OFF to reach HBoot 2.15 as it seems.

LS.xD said:
As long as you are S-ON you can only flash matching RUUs (Rogers). You will need to gain S-OFF to reach HBoot 2.15 as it seems.
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Okay. It seems that the best path forward for me is to S-OFF using the Firewater tool (since my device is HTCDEV unlocked/rooted, and having S-OFF means I won't need to unlock bootloader again after running RUU).
Then I'll run the newest Rogers RUU from AndroidRUU.
At this point, I should be on hboot 2.15 and still bootloader unlocked, right?
If I'm right about all that, then I should just have to install a custom recovery and be able to flash the 4.4 ROM I want. Correct?

arjundas86 said:
Okay. It seems that the best path forward for me is to S-OFF using the Firewater tool (since my device is HTCDEV unlocked/rooted, and having S-OFF means I won't need to unlock bootloader again after running RUU).
Then I'll run the newest Rogers RUU from AndroidRUU.
At this point, I should be on hboot 2.15 and still bootloader unlocked, right?
If I'm right about all that, then I should just have to install a custom recovery and be able to flash the 4.4 ROM I want. Correct?
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Newest Rogers RUU ist HBoot 1.84 as it seems. Once you're S-OFF and have superCID you need to change your CID to unbranded (HTC__001) and flash e.g. unbranded RUU with HBoot 2.15.

LS.xD said:
Newest Rogers RUU ist HBoot 1.84 as it seems. Once you're S-OFF and have superCID you need to change your CID to unbranded (HTC__001) and flash e.g. unbranded RUU with HBoot 2.15.
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Hmm... I see. Things are getting clearer, but still a little confused about SuperCID stuff.
Will running Tmobile US RUU work? That's the one from the guide I read in my first post. He suggests that RUU to get hboot 2.15.
Once I get S-OFF, then I should get SuperCID. I thought with SuperCID (i.e. 11111111), I can run any RUU. Or should I still manually set CID to HTC__001 before running Tmobile US RUU?

arjundas86 said:
Hmm... I see. Things are getting clearer, but still a little confused about SuperCID stuff.
Will running Tmobile US RUU work? That's the one from the guide I read in my first post. He suggests that RUU to get hboot 2.15.
Once I get S-OFF, then I should get SuperCID. I thought with SuperCID (i.e. 11111111), I can run any RUU. Or should I still manually set CID to HTC__001 before running Tmobile US RUU?
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To run a RUU NOT MATCHING your stock CID you need S-OFF // SuperCID. You cant install TMobile RUU at first :/
I would act like this:
Run latest Rogers RUU --> READ FACEPALM GUIDE CAREFULLY. There is how to gain SuperCID and then S-OFF. Once done you can change CID to whatever you want and run a (unbranded) RUU with HBoot 2.15.
But that is just what i thought about it. I suggest to let someone else CONFIRM the way suggested by me first.

Have you tried anything yet? If NO. then STOP. Don't do anything and don't upgrade your firmware/hboot yet. It could happen you won't need this. I am on hboot 1.06 and I'm running fine any ROM including KitKat ones. That requirement for a higher firmware is coming from an old issue that was before with earlier Android versions (from the versions that used 3.4.x kernel and up), making SOME phones to misbehave (reboots or other issues). It could be that your phone handles it right and in that case you won't need to upgrade if you don't want to.
WHY? You should not only upgrade your firmware but also to S-Off. It is not required but it makes your life easier. And these procedures bear some risks even if they were successful for others. And why should you risk anything unless it's mandatory? The point is you have a hboot lower than 1.09. There are not to many left and people are tempted to forget, but hboot lower than 1.09 means you're like an S-Off. You can flash radios and kernels from recovery as on any other S-Off device. Only thing you can't do is to remove those red letters from the boot splash screen...that is you can't flash another firmware. But hopefully you might not need it.
OK. All these being said, I would suggest you to first try to see if the ROM works OK on your phone like it is and only if it doesn't you should think about S-Off, upgrading firmware and things like this.
Now, what you have to do is download the ROM you would like...any ROM, and before flashing it follow my guide HERE to change the updater script in the ROM's ZIP to allow flashing the ROM on lower hboots. It is very easy, I do this usually in 1 min, I would suggest to use method 2 that's much easier than to follow all detailed steps in method 1. If you have any questions or unclear things ask but I think it's easy enough.
If after this you cannot boot the ROM or have it working, then you can think of upgrading firmware

@Rapier
thank you for the provided help as usual
Are there any advantages by unsing HBoot 1.06?? I'm on 2.15 // S-OFF // SuperCID // No red letters // "tampered" removed

LS.xD said:
...Are there any advantages by unsing HBoot 1.06?? I'm on 2.15 // S-OFF // SuperCID // No red letters // "tampered" removed
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For you? NO. You're better than me
The story is like this. I bought the phone in 2012. At that time, the highest hboot was 1.14 I believe (don't remember exactly) and there was no S-Off method available (they appeared later). There was something else tho. The lower hboots (1.09 and lower) permitted to write in the kernel partition or radio partition like an S-Off device. HTC then covered this in the higher hboots. So even if there was no S-Off method, there was a downgrade method that was used to downgrade the hboot from whatever you had to 1.09 or below. I downgraded mine to 1.06...don't ask why I didn't choose 1.09, I thought that was the RUU I considered to be fine for me at that time.
Now being on hboot 1.06 I can do anything except I cannot flash firmwares directly. So I cannot flash a new hboot with red letters removed for example. But I don't care about this...I can flash radios or kernels or splash screens like any S-Off user. The procedure for getting latest firmware and S-Off seems a little bit risky and I've read about alot of issues or problems from people who failed or tried countless times to reach that. So I've asked myself why should I do that if I don't need it?
Then it came the rumor and there were some brick cases of devices that were having some Android 4.3 ROMs and were not on latest firmware (in the meantime 2.13 and 2.15 hboots arise and also the S-Off method). It proved to be not the firmware fault after all. But CM team has included a check in the updater script of the ROM ZIP, to validate if the hboot was 2.13 or 2.15...if not, the flash won't happen. It's a simple assert command present there at the beginning of the script that do the check. As CM team was the pioneer in having the newest Android version ROMs available, everybody based initially their ROMs/builds on CM...so the check in the script was automatically carried over to all the ROMs out there. And it's still here.
As I've tested and I could run fine those ROM's (by removing the check before flash), I noticed that this requirement does not apply to everyone. Some could run fine the ROMs even if they're not on the "latest" firmware.
So that's why I am on 1.06...cause I don't know why should I go through some risky procedures when I don't need to.

Rapier said:
Have you tried anything yet? If NO. then STOP. Don't do anything and don't upgrade your firmware/hboot yet. It could happen you won't need this. I am on hboot 1.06 and I'm running fine any ROM including KitKat ones. That requirement for a higher firmware is coming from an old issue that was before with earlier Android versions (from the versions that used 3.4.x kernel and up), making SOME phones to misbehave (reboots or other issues). It could be that your phone handles it right and in that case you won't need to upgrade if you don't want to.
OK. All these being said, I would suggest you to first try to see if the ROM works OK on your phone like it is and only if it doesn't you should think about S-Off, upgrading firmware and things like this.
Now, what you have to do is download the ROM you would like...any ROM, and before flashing it follow my guide HERE to change the updater script in the ROM's ZIP to allow flashing the ROM on lower hboots. It is very easy, I do this usually in 1 min, I would suggest to use method 2 that's much easier than to follow all detailed steps in method 1. If you have any questions or unclear things ask but I think it's easy enough.
If after this you cannot boot the ROM or have it working, then you can think of upgrading firmware
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I did read in more than one thread that you MUST have hboot 2.15 to install KitKat roms. Also, on CyanogenMod website, it says:
Firmware compatibility:
CM 10.1-11.0: HBOOT 2.13.0000, 2.15.0000, 2.15.4444.​But no, I haven't done anything yet. So first of all, I'll make a nandroid backup and then just try factory reset, wipe cache/dalvik, and flash a CM 11 ROM, and see if it works. I'll post here whether it worked or not, I won't have time to do this until the weekend though.
Thanks, btw.
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WHY? You should not only upgrade your firmware but also to S-Off. It is not required but it makes your life easier. And these procedures bear some risks even if they were successful for others. And why should you risk anything unless it's mandatory? The point is you have a hboot lower than 1.09. There are not to many left and people are tempted to forget, but hboot lower than 1.09 means you're like an S-Off. You can flash radios and kernels from recovery as on any other S-Off device. Only thing you can't do is to remove those red letters from the boot splash screen...that is you can't flash another firmware. But hopefully you might not need it.
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I don't get what you're saying. It is still worth getting S-OFF, or it is not?

arjundas86 said:
I did read in more than one thread that you MUST have hboot 2.15 to install KitKat roms. Also, on CyanogenMod website, it says:
Firmware compatibility:
CM 10.1-11.0: HBOOT 2.13.0000, 2.15.0000, 2.15.4444.​But no, I haven't done anything yet. So first of all, I'll make a nandroid backup and then just try factory reset, wipe cache/dalvik, and flash a CM 11 ROM, and see if it works. I'll post here whether it worked or not, I won't have time to do this until the weekend though.
Thanks, btw.
I don't get what you're saying. It is still worth getting S-OFF, or it is not?
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I beg to differ answering first:
Just try if you can install your preferred rom, AFTER you edited the "updatescript" as suggested by @Rapier.
IN CASE you have problems with the new rom you should get S-OFF + upgrading HBoot to 2.15+

LS.xD said:
I beg to differ answering first:
Just try if you can install your preferred rom, AFTER you edited the "updatescript" as suggested by @Rapier.
Just IN CASE you have problems with the new rom you should get S-OFF + upgrading HBoot to 2.15+
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Yes, you're right. That's what I meant. I will delete the updater-script lines that Rapier mentioned before trying to install CM11.
If it doesn't work, at least I can restore to my backup, without risk of bricking.
Then I can try the hboot update and s-off if required.
Thanks.

arjundas86 said:
I did read in more than one thread that you MUST have hboot 2.15 to install KitKat roms. Also, on CyanogenMod website, it says:
Firmware compatibility:
CM 10.1-11.0: HBOOT 2.13.0000, 2.15.0000, 2.15.4444.​...
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Yes, they say so. Then I'm the living proof that this requirement is not true...sorry for that. I've explained above to LS.xD where this requirement came from. The point is that you might have the ROM working even if you're on 1.08 and in this case you won't need to upgrade if you don't want
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...I don't get what you're saying. It is still worth getting S-OFF, or it is not?
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It's depending on what you want. If you want to get rid of that red warning, to have the latest hboot and to have less trouble when flashing ROMs then yes, it worth it. If you just want to upgrade your firmware to 2.15 (to match the ROM requirements) but do not want to make the S-Off, you will have to flash the kernel separately in fastboot mode, after each ROM flash. Also you won't be able to flash a radio. That's why I said that if you are going to upgrade the firmware you should get S-Off as well
BUT, if you're NOT going to upgrade your firmware and you'll be lucky to have the ROM working, you won't need to S-Off since your current hboot is lower than 1.09 and allows you to flash radios and kernels directly from recovery.
And at this point, as you said, it worth a try like you are now and only if it's not working like this you should upgrade and do S-Off. I guess is much easier and less risky to remove 4 lines from that script and flash the ROM to see if it's working, than to go through the firmware upgrade & S-Off procedures

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Yes, they say so. Then I'm the living proof that this requirement is not true...sorry for that. I've explained above to LS.xD where this requirement came from. The point is that you might have the ROM working even if you're on 1.08 and in this case you won't need to upgrade if you don't wantIt's depending on what you want. If you want to get rid of that red warning, to have the latest hboot and to have less trouble when flashing ROMs then yes, it worth it. If you just want to upgrade your firmware to 2.15 (to match the ROM requirements) but do not want to make the S-Off, you will have to flash the kernel separately in fastboot mode, after each ROM flash. Also you won't be able to flash a radio. That's why I said that if you are going to upgrade the firmware you should get S-Off as well
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Hey Rapier,
I'm having trouble doing getting the zip signed.
I tried the zip signer you had in your guide, as well as a bunch of other zip signing programs, but none of them seem to do the job. I keep getting Error: Status 7.
Not getting bootloops or anything like that, so I was able to restore to my backup. No harm done.

[Q] Desperate - Need Help

Two years ago I had this phone and I wanted to flash. I did. I don't remember all the details of it, but I do know that someone on here helped me flash it and it ended up with a European(?) flash on it and I remember he helped me do something with the radio in order that it would take the flash. I also remember that the reason for the flash was so that TMO wouldn't charge me for tethering. In any case, here's the current situation. I sold the phone and the person came and said they were having issues... so I was trying to restore it to a TMOUS ROM. Eventually, I bricked it, and got the qualcom download mode issue. I found the thread on that on how to fix it, and I did. Now the phone boots to the recovery screen and does nothing else. I am unable to flash ANY of TMO's RUU's, some of the PG58IMG.zip files that I've been able to find all fail... very frustrating.
I followed another thread that talked about how to unlock the bootloader, which involved copying the Identifier Token and sending it in to HTC. I received the response, and ran the command and was successful in unlocking it. When the device rebooted, it even showed the Tmobile animated logo. When I go back into the boot loader, it now reads:
My bootloader screen reads as follows:
*** UNLOCKED ***
PYRAMID PVT SHIP S-ON RL
HBOOT - 1.27.0000
eMMC-boot
JAN 13 2012.17:33:34
Software info shows:
Android Version: 4.0.3
HTC Sense Version: 3.6
Software number: Blitz_2.0.0
Kernel: 3.0.16-gda3fdfc
[email protected]#1
Baseband version: 11.76A3504300U_11.24A.3504.31_M
Build Number 3.33.401.106 CL391535 release-keys
Browser version: WebKit/534.30
At this point, I would try any flash, any rom, any thing to get this phone working for the guy again. I am skittish about flashing anything from this point so I don't mess up and have to start all over somewhere. Can I flash something working from this point? Can I flash a TMO RUU from here?
I have the RUU_Pyramid_TMOUS_1.27.531.2_RADIO_10.42.9007.00P_10.11.9007.15_M_release_192098_signed.exe as well as several others. Id' rather put this phone onto something stock from tmo but will do a custom as long as the phone is restored to working order.
I won't say I'm a newb... but having been away from flashing for a while, I could really use some step by steps to get going again.
The computer I am using to flash with is a Windows XP machine with all the HTC drivers working etc.
**** UPDATE ****
The phone now boots up as it did when this all started. After I did the token thing and got the bin file from HTC, I applied it and the result was the boot loader info above. It got past the tmobile animated logo and actually into the phone starting up as new including applying all the settings I want. Awesome that the phone now functions like a phone again, but I would still like to flash an official TMO Rom to it to restore it back to like out of the box condition. Any help is appreciated.

read this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1672425

rzr86 said:
read this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1672425
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I actually have read that... like 6 times to make sure I'm not missing anything. I do remember having to flash the radio back when I did my original flashing, and I think that process is preventing me from using any of the RUU's that I find. Are there any posts/files/resources that will help me flash the radio back to its default, so that I can then flash the RUU?
Also, I am S-ON already, but ANY RUU that I try to flash fails. Do I need to go to S-OFF and then RUU, then back to S-ON?

sc.lord said:
I actually have read that... like 6 times to make sure I'm not missing anything. I do remember having to flash the radio back when I did my original flashing, and I think that process is preventing me from using any of the RUU's that I find. Are there any posts/files/resources that will help me flash the radio back to its default, so that I can then flash the RUU?
Also, I am S-ON already, but ANY RUU that I try to flash fails. Do I need to go to S-OFF and then RUU, then back to S-ON?
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no you don't need S-OFF
post your cid

rzr86 said:
no you don't need S-OFF
post your cid
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CID is 11111111
I think I have it licked now.
Used the universal firmware and the viper 5.2.1 flash and it loaded just fine. Never got S-OFF on it, but the viper flash so far is working excellent.

sc.lord said:
CID is 11111111
I think I have it licked now.
Used the universal firmware and the viper 5.2.1 flash and it loaded just fine. Never got S-OFF on it, but the viper flash so far is working excellent.
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how do you have supercid with S-ON?
also how did you flashed the universal firmware while on S-ON?
those two things can be done only on S-OFF

rzr86 said:
how do you have supercid with S-ON?
also how did you flashed the universal firmware while on S-ON?
those two things can be done only on S-OFF
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Wish I could tell you.... hence the reason for the original help request.
I can tell you that I hit softbrick on it once and had to unbrick in linux.
Then I got the LOCKED with Security Warning. Then I got the unlock bin file from HTC Dev, used that and got back to UNLOCKED, with no security warning. Then I tried Rumunner without any success at all, stayed S-ON.
in any case, after trying just about everything I could think of, I found the viper post, saw that you said you don't need S-OFF to flash new rom... so i gave it a shot. Updated EXT, flashed the firmware, then the rom and it all went very smoothly. Phone's been working fine since. <shrug>