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Apex Laptops want to sue me! Avoid using them!

Munkeemajic wants to sue me everybody...
..free speech means nothing obviously!
munkeemajic said:
Fluffcat I urge you to stop posting comments about our company.
Accusations such as these will not be tolerated.
For the last time please remove all comments made against our company Apex Laptops.
We will proceed with legal matters if your comments such as Apex "we need to replace the entire mainboard" Laptops are not removed within 24 hours as of 09:00 16 August 2006.
We find these comments damaging to our companies reputation and unfair. As such you may be sued for any damages.
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Bear this in mind when considering Apex Laptops for parts or repairs! And also that they recommend their own company ( see http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=342361#342361 ) without full disclosure of their position within said company. Me, I'm bricking it now, honest....
And if they decide to delete their posts, don't worry, I've got them cached if they want to use them in court against me.... :twisted:
Richard

What a strange company! They have to go around pretending to be their own customers to provide recommendations for themselves/. Not only here, but other forums as well!
http://www.totalpda.co.uk/forum/search.php?searchid=407723
Munkee Majic
Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 2
I had my Mio 168 repaired coz it had the same dodgey charging connector. I used a company in kent called apex laptops. Not a bad service at all. just glad my GPS is now working again. I'm useless at directions. Mitac quoted me a ridculous amount to repair it. Apex were a bit better. their website if you like it is www.apexlaptops.co.uk. hope this helps.
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Munkee Majic
Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 2
I had my ipaq repaired
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I had my 5550 repaired by apex laptops. Very good service. their site is www.apexlaptops.co.uk.
Dont know if they can help you.
Good luck!
And as for them dis-agreeing with my ' board swop' comment well, there are many posts about boards being swopped in iPaqs.
http://www.pocketpcmag.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=19254
Now as new boards need the permission of HP to be distributed, can Apex Laptops tell me their HP reseller number? Oh, hang on, I can look it up. Wait a minute, there not on there! What gives? :wink: Are they using another distributer? Maybe then can tell us their details? Or maybe then can admit that they use 2nd hand parts....
their 'board swop' method looks like their 'fix all' cure for even simple firmware issues that can be sorted with mtty or jtag....a corrupt rom usually just needs flashing properly using non-consumer methods.....
Now, people on this board start having a go at me ( see the 'crook' thread ) - I don't go around threatening to sue, I STAND UP FOR MYSELF. I don't delete posts like Munkeemajjc has done.....and their failure to reply in posts pointing out their self-recommendation and high prices should speak volumes. They have started to post links to the 'crook' thread on various message boards - thanks! Then people will see my low, low prices in comparison to their overpriced used parts :wink: so thanks for the advertising Apex Laptops!
Richard

haha, what a bunch of clowns.

Richard,
Your comments posted here are strong and as such are slanderous to our company. We do not know you and you do not know us.
We feel these comments are unfair. We do not use second hand parts but if we every did use second user parts we always tell the client beforehand.
We will be taking this matter up with solicitors as false alligations have been made.
Regards,
Apex Laptops.

munkeemajic said:
Richard,
Your comments posted here are strong and as such are slanderous to our company. We do not know you and you do not know us.
We feel these comments are unfair. We do not use second hand parts but if we every did use second user parts we always tell the client beforehand.
We will be taking this matter up with solicitors as false alligations have been made.
Regards,
Apex Laptops.
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oh yeah? everything I have posted can be backed up.....so you're now admitting you ARE apex laptops after posting fraudulent glowing reviews about yourself as a customer of apex laptops then?...Great!
Richard
EDIT from your own post, none of my 'allegations' ( or comments as I like to call them) would seem to be false....
Take the sentence "if we (every did) use second user parts we always tell the client beforehand."
Now if you had typed "we would always tell the client beforehand" it is a future statement that you haven't previously but would in future if needed...
However, the statement as written is past tense implying you have used 2nd hand parts. Hoist on your own petard methinks....
And as for false statments, what about your own claiming to have bought from yourself and gotten good service? Muppet! At least have the decency to use a second ID for posts recommending your own service! Or do you think the readers of XDA-dev are that stupid they won't spot it a mile away?
p.s still waiting to hear from you or your solicitor.... Might give you a call in a bit to speed it up as I'm bored and need entertaining....

sigh...gotta love internet fights...lol :roll:

Yeh. Anyone knows that the best way to get MORE people to read comments about something is to negatively respond to it. If munkeemajic wrote "I disagree with everything and apex laptops give cheap quality part" then no more comment, I would never have noticed this thread!

munkeemajic said:
Your comments posted here are strong and as such are slanderous to our company.
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What gets to me is again someone has said that it is slander. I believe if it was incorrect it would not be slander it would be libel.
slander = spoken
libel = written
If you're going to bicker please be accurate ;-)

To be fair Kevino, that's probably why he's talking to a solicitor! And in this jurisdiction, wouldn't it be defamation? I was acting for Don King in this case regarding "Internet libel/defamation":
http://lawzone.thelawyer.com/cgi-bin/item.cgi?id=112699&d=205&h=207&f=259
I suggest we all have a read of this useful guide anyhoo:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/actionnetwork/A1183394#1
Guys, I'm not going to intervene on this free exchange of comments, but if the board finds itself in a difficult position as a result, then you know we know where you live, so to speak....
V

fluffcat1 said:
Munkeemajic wants to sue me everybody...
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Fluffy (the Munkee slayer) - let him try to sue. He will be laughed out of court. :lol:
It's bluster - pure bluster. :wink:

Hi again Richard,
We have had advice from our solicitor regarding this matter.
His words are:
The remarks are defamatory to your business.
We suggest you advise the owner of the website and insist the comments are removed, and if you think that he will repeat them elsewhere then we shall proceed with legal action to prevent further defamation and to seek damages for the defamatory remarks which have already been made.
You could also seek a public apology.
Hope this helps.
So as you can see things may escalate as a result of your postings. I personally do not wish to continue with this as it is very time consuming for us. This matter can be laid to rest if you remove all remarks said about our company and maybe post a public apology.
I will leave this matter in your hands. You will not hear from me again if your actions are not well intended towards Apex Laptops.
Regards.

munkeemajic said:
Hi again,
We have had advice from our solicitor regarding this matter.
His words are:
The remarks are defamatory to your business.
We suggest you advise the owner of the website and insist the comments are removed, and if you think that he will repeat them elsewhere then we shall proceed with legal action to prevent further defamation and to seek damages for the defamatory remarks which have already been made.
You could also seek a public apology.
Hope this helps.
So as you can see things may escalate as a result of your postings. I personally do not wish to continue with this as it is very time consuming for us. This matter can be laid to rest if you remove all remarks said about our company and maybe post a public apology.
I will leave this matter in your hands. You will not hear from me again if your actions are not well intended towards Apex Laptops.
Regards.
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Yeah whatever. I bet you typed that all yourself :wink:
Why not give me your solicitors name and I'll ring them directly? If they even exist, which I doubt. I'll I've said is:
you are OVERPRICED - which it true as I have demonstrated
you use 2ND HAND PARTS which you have admitted above and has been confirmed by previous customers...
and you REPLACE MOTHERBOARDS when a JTAG flash is all that is needed to re-flash firmware....
None of that is defamation. So bring it on
On the other hand, you have pretended to be one of your own customers on this and many other websites and fraudulently given yourselves a glowing recommendation which is undeserved. What did your solicitor say about that exactly might I ask? Did they recommend you apologise for misleading everyone?.....
Richard

Blowing your own trumpet..
So I wonder if munkeemajic mentioned to his solicitor that he had been posting false recommendations for his own company in order to try and get business?
I personally have not seen any defamatory remarks - just comments about qoutes from munkeemajic's own postings.
I think he needs to contact his solicitor again and give him the whole story as the chap may change his ming when faced with an informed opinion and correct facts... LOL
Plus, I wonder if he has contacted the "owner" of the website and not Richard.
I'm getting bored now... but I can definately say that I would personally not use apexcomputers after reading THEIR OWN postings for recommendations for their own company.. whether FAKE or not.. I'm just glad Richard has brought these apparently "SELF RECOMMENDATIONS" to uur knowledge.
Jees... I'm not gonna get sued now am I ???????????

Re: Blowing your own trumpet..
cgrillo said:
So I wonder if munkeemajic mentioned to his solicitor that he had been posting false recommendations for his own company in order to try and get business?
I personally have not seen any defamatory remarks - just comments about qoutes from munkeemajic's own postings.
I think he needs to contact his solicitor again and give him the whole story as the chap may change his ming when faced with an informed opinion and correct facts... LOL
Plus, I wonder if he has contacted the "owner" of the website and not Richard.
I'm getting bored now... but I can definately say that I would personally not use apexcomputers after reading THEIR OWN postings for recommendations for their own company.. whether FAKE or not.. I'm just glad Richard has brought these apparently "SELF RECOMMENDATIONS" to uur knowledge.
Jees... I'm not gonna get sued now am I ???????????
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Yeah, I'm gonna sue you for, ummm, saying that you would't use Apex laptops based on my postings without my permission. Or something... :roll: :lol:
Richard

Damn
No... I'm gonna sue you for reading my postings and making a decision based upon what I wrote..
I see this could get silly !!!! - sorry - it already has !

If it comes to the crunch, and this does go legal, simply edit your posts and put *I believe*, or *It appears to myself, and other users that...* in front of it all

munkeemajic said:
Hi again Richard,
We have had advice from our solicitor regarding this matter.
His words are:
The remarks are defamatory to your business.
We suggest you advise the owner of the website and insist the comments are removed, and if you think that he will repeat them elsewhere then we shall proceed with legal action to prevent further defamation and to seek damages for the defamatory remarks which have already been made.
You could also seek a public apology.
Hope this helps.
So as you can see things may escalate as a result of your postings. I personally do not wish to continue with this as it is very time consuming for us. This matter can be laid to rest if you remove all remarks said about our company and maybe post a public apology.
I will leave this matter in your hands. You will not hear from me again if your actions are not well intended towards Apex Laptops.
Regards.
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munkee, it is my perception that you are a Prize Pillock! :!:
Now sue me....

:lol: :lol: This is an early april fools joke surely reading all munkeemajic's post its hilarious anyway if you want your xda repaired try Apex Laptops must be good munkeemajic recommends them :lol: talk about how to ruin a business done it all by yourself mate :wink:

Be careful, remember that when the Beatles broke up, John sued Paul, Paul sued John and George, George sued Paul and John and Ringo sued himself by accident.

markgamber said:
Be careful, remember that when the Beatles broke up, John sued Paul, Paul sued John and George, George sued Paul and John and Ringo sued himself by accident.
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lol! This is just garbage. Any judge that would let this in to court is a disgrace. I honestly think this would be laughed out of court.

XDA/Samsung

Hello Guys,
My name is John, I recently became the social media analyst at Samsung mobile. I wanted to start opening the lines of communication between XDA and Samsung. First I wanted to say I have noticed your work on our devices on the XDA forums. I think you guys do an outstanding job, I myself am a developer for mobile devices. So let’s get down to business, we’re going to be in Austin from March 10-15 for the SXSW(south by southwest http://sxsw.com/convention). I was wondering if any of you guys are going so that we could meet up and share a couple of ideas I have. I am looking forward to meeting some of you GREAT developers!
Thanks in advance,
John
Social Media Analyst
Samsung Mobile USA
Twitter: @SamsungJohn

Is this for real? Please provide some proof you work for samsung.

Sooooo...what's the hold up with Froyo, John?

wonner said:
Sooooo...what's the hold up with Froyo, John?
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+1
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I honestly hope you are authentic. It is about time that the people who make the phones embrace the superior developmental process.

Pikabob said:
I honestly hope you are authentic. It is about time that the people who make the phones embrace the superior developmental process.
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Or at least attempt to embrace some kind of something. That'd be a start for Samsung.

Sounds like BS advertising to get people in seats at this event.

Interesting...go through his previous posts once, not exactly his first time posting on the forums...

So let’s get down to business, we’re going to be in Austin from March 10-15 for the SXSW(south by southwest http://sxsw.com/convention).
The link doesn't work....

Troll.....

Yeah, sounds troll to me, but it will be nice for them to show here...and learn a bit of how things are done
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Real
Yes I am the real deal, I am a developer/social media analyst. I don't mind taking a picture of my badge or something to prove my credibility.

SamsungJohn said:
Yes I am the real deal, I am a developer/social media analyst. I don't mind taking a picture of my badge or something to prove my credibility.
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I think he's legit, folks.
If you are indeed an analyst for Samsung, welcome to XDA. I'm sure you've already noticed by now that there is a lot of cynicism both for Samsung and your claim of being an employee. Simple reason for this is that most everyone here feels that Samsung has ignored their pleas for help, didn’t deliver promised upgrades, and left millions of Galaxy S owners with buggy software/hardware, etc.
If your goal is to reach out to Samsung users at the grassroots level, you're in the right place. However, you also have a tough job ahead of you. The disenfranchisement runs deep and it will take a lot of effort to fix.
Here are some suggestions for you to escalate internally within Samsung:
1. Support the development efforts of the XDA developers. There are many talented people working quite hard to customize, fix and generally improve Samsung firmware. Samsung should make some effort to provide these developers with source code, tools, and help.
2. Take an honest and upfront approach to product defects that find their way onto store shelves (e.g. GPS, battery, etc). I guarantee the cost of addressing the problem will be fully offset by the shift in customer loyalty. An unreliable product is perceived many times worse if the OEM denies or ignores the issues.
3. Set a release schedule with carrier partners and stick to it. Apple has set the benchmark for frequent over the wire software updates. Android applications are updated with fixes and improvements on a regular basis. In stark contrast, our firmware lags far behind Google’s releases and FOTA is failing more than it’s working. This has to change. Samsung needs to push out regular firmware updates that are applied seamlessly without loss of data. Forget FOTA and do it like Apple does OTW (over the wire).
4. Allow users the option of switching to AOSP. Some people like TouchWiz and some don’t. Give them the choice.
BTW, in addition to being an informed consumer, I work in the mobile industry. I know a fair amount about how it should work. The Samsung Galaxy product suite is performing very well but the real question is how long will it last. Loyalty takes effort to maintain and is easy to lose.
P.S. I may very well be at SXSW but I won’t know for sure until a week or so beforehand.

I understand I have a lot of work ahead of me. As I said before, Im here to establish a partnership with XDA developers. Inbox me to let me know if your going to be there so i can arrange somewhere to meet.

If he was legit, one of the Admins would be announcing that SamsungJohn is a rep from Samsung; he wouldn't be doing it himself as a post in the forum.

paulbh said:
If he was legit, one of the Admins would be announcing that SamsungJohn is a rep from Samsung; he wouldn't be doing it himself as a post in the forum.
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^^^^^^ that's a good point!

SamsungJohn said:
I understand I have a lot of work ahead of me. As I said before, Im here to establish a partnership with XDA developers. Inbox me to let me know if your going to be there so i can arrange somewhere to meet.
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If you are in fact telling the truth, I warmly welcome you to the true birthplace of the galaxy s.

paulbh said:
If he was legit, one of the Admins would be announcing that SamsungJohn is a rep from Samsung; he wouldn't be doing it himself as a post in the forum.
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Why? There's quite a bit of speculation in your claim--why would he have to go through admins to post here?
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Kubernetes said:
Why? There's quite a bit of speculation in your claim--why would he have to go through admins to post here?
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You would think that someone who is in the position he claims to be in, would come in a little more professional than just a random post.
He said he has been lurking the forums and likes what he sees. So he has also seen all the dissapointment that is running through these forums as well.
If you were in his position would you not want to come in here, with support and proof of who you are? (there is multiple threads of the same post in other categories, all have been asking for proof for hours)
I'm not saying hes not who he says he is, just think he could have introduced himself a little better.

Guys, do a little research. Pretty easy to figure out that he is either very thorough or he's actually legit.
Maybe we should tell him that it is a welcome first step to see him here.
He is an analyst so he's going to have to escalate pretty far up the food chain to be effective. Hope you're a good communicator John.
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To XDA, My reaction to Samsung RUSE

To the board of XDA.
Please give us more credit than what was proposed from Samsung. You are dealing with real people here, and no one is being paid to be a part of this great community that has been growing.
I found it offensive and belittling to all members that the solution that was brought forth was to try to establish a sub forum with specific brand in mind, for all our issues and concerns. We know, as well as them, the problems and concerns we have with our devices.
This site is "registration free", all they need to do is come in to each of the carriers forum and read what our concerns and issues are. Instead they try to take us on a rollercoaster ride that was very counter productive plus a waste of time. A mirage sort of speak for their political gain. In no way it benefited the members here.
I was actually shocked that it went as far as it did. The "hype" that they created was nothing like I've seen. They even posted a youtube video as a metaphor what was in store for us. Giving a false hope and yet tarnishing their company name even more.
What was the main goal? To sugar coat answers?
We want real world solutions, not the same redundant answer we've been getting (or poll).
Bottom line: A real fix. That's if they really cared
As a billion dollar company, Samsung, they can hire hundreds of people to go through all the post in these forums and collective data for themselves. As fore mention they know it's "registration free".
But someone was being paid to come in here to minimize bad PR. He was doing a job! And it was easily revealed. We, as members, are here voluntarily of our own free will. That's what makes this community so great. Keeping it real.
I know XDA was only looking out for our best interest, right? But I can say, "I saw this coming from a mile away".

*grabs torch and pitchfork*

Just wondering why SamsungJohn whats to create a "poll" when we've already gotten the shaft!

Come on guys no need to let it get out of hand. Let it go for now till we get more info.

Question for zelendel

So was samsungjohns big announcement not the support/questions thread. Just a question no flame intended. I think the vast majority of us that were all over that thread figured that support thread was the big news. So please inform us if it was not the news
Edit: Please keep this flame free this was just meant as a simple question
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oldskooldawgz said:
So was samsungjohns big announcement not the support/questions thread. Just a question no flame intended. I think the vast majority of us that were all over that thread figured that support thread was the big news. So please inform us if it was not the news
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No the thread was not the big news. To be honest I dont really have much info yet about this. To be honest I dont trust it to prove to be anything at all really. I will give more info as I get it.
As for Them starting a Support thread here....I dought it....Think about what we do here, and come to your own thoughts

zelendel said:
No the thread was not the big news.
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Well, that is good news.
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SamsungJohn should have just said what he had to say when he could. If he can't say today, then don't start a thread today. No need to hype it ahead of time. His first post should have been whatever big news he had. That would have avoided this debacle.

Thank you very much for your responce
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zelendel said:
No the thread was not the big news. To be honest I dont really have much info yet about this. To be honest I dont trust it to prove to be anything at all really. I will give more info as I get it.
As for Them starting a Support thread here....I dought it....Think about what we do here, and come to your own thoughts
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Thanks, please keep us informed. Cause unlike john, you're not part of samsung and have nothing to hype. Just shoot us straight.

I really think svetius needs to teach him a little pr. Maybe even have orb write his posts. I don't think he knows what he is doing.

No prob guys I would not leave you in the dark about this. I want to beleive the guy is here for good things but I just dont. If you stop and think for a min I think you will agree he is about as out of place here as as a fruit logo on anything other then a kids toy lmao.
On a side note lets not open anymore threads about this. I will leave this one open but others will be closed on site

TheSopranos16 said:
SamsungJohn should have just said what he had to say when he could. If he can't say today, then don't start a thread today. No need to hype it ahead of time. His first post should have been whatever big news he had. That would have avoided this debacle.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1INb5FM_1lE

TheSopranos16 said:
SamsungJohn should have just said what he had to say when he could. If he can't say today, then don't start a thread today. No need to hype it ahead of time. His first post should have been whatever big news he had. That would have avoided this debacle.
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Double True that!

I've seen mention of the Samsungjohn announcement a couple of times, but have no idea what it was in reference to, can someone please catch me up on it? Searching that user name yields no results..

rpicaso said:
I've seen mention of the Samsungjohn announcement a couple of times, but have no idea what it was in reference to, can someone please catch me up on it? Searching that user name yields no results..
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No one knows, all that has happened so far was several q&a threads that were opened and closed quickly because for good reason we are all pissed.
My head hurts

zelendel said:
If you stop and think for a min I think you will agree he is about as out of place here as as a fruit logo on anything other then a kids toy lmao.
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LOL, I have always said this to my friends who have the phone with the i in front of it (I will not directly mention that dumb phone)

Yea, and everyone around here on XDA were total D-bags and flammed the poor guy.
He's a marketing rep for Samsung, and I think was honestly trying to find a way to reach out to the XDA community. And in return, everyone ripped his thread to pieces.
I guess the old, "you catch more flies with honey than vinegar" doesn't work so well around here. Pitty too. Cause unless all the idiots around here plan on rushing the Samsung corporate headquarters and holding the CEO ransom, burning the one bridge set forth isn't going to get anyone anywhere.

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No one knows, all that has happened so far was several q&a threads that were opened and closed quickly because for good reason we are all pissed.
My head hurts
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I did finally find the thread, catching up now. I wouldn't be surprised if there's a trade in offer of some kind involved. Just speculation on my part tho. of course, after the reception he received here we probably won't hear anything now..

Shammyh said:
Yea, and everyone around here on XDA were total D-bags and flammed the poor guy.
He's a marketing rep for Samsung, and I think was honestly trying to find a way to reach out to the XDA community. And in return, everyone ripped his thread to pieces.
I guess the old, "you catch more flies with honey than vinegar" doesn't work so well around here. Pitty too. Cause unless all the idiots around here plan on rushing the Samsung corporate headquarters and holding the CEO ransom, burning the one bridge set forth isn't going to get anyone anywhere.
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I respectfully disagree with your position, but if we want this discussion to remain open lets avoid name calling and flaming

Shammyh said:
I guess the old, "you catch more flies with honey than vinegar" doesn't work so well around here. Pitty too. Cause unless all the idiots around here plan on rushing the Samsung corporate headquarters and holding the CEO ransom, burning the one bridge set forth isn't going to get anyone anywhere.
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I agree. The way I see it, we have nothing to lose. They already have our money. Why not let the guy say his piece? Is there anything he can possibly say that will sway our opinion without doing something about the problems? Is he going to hypnotize us into buying more Samsung products?

Shammyh said:
I guess the old, "you catch more flies with honey than vinegar" doesn't work so well around here. Pitty too. Cause unless all the idiots around here plan on rushing the Samsung corporate headquarters and holding the CEO ransom, burning the one bridge set forth isn't going to get anyone anywhere.
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With all due respect. Samsung has brought the hatred and anger on themselves. They choose to enter into agreements where they cant comment on the updates they provide. They choose to enter into agreements where they cant update their own hardware without the carriers blessing. They choose to allow their PR reps make comments about updates that never come dangling a carrot in front of those hopeful for the advanced features others on identical hardware in other countries enjoy.
Sorry they burned their bridges, they doused their customers with gasoline, you cant blame us for wanting to embrace them with our last fiery breaths.

Ok guys if this turns into a flame fest or name calling i will close this one as well. I am not sure what will happen if anything other then empty promises as like stated above "they already have our money." To be honest This will be my last Samsung device I ever own. No matter What Samsung has to say, I will never again promote a Samsung device, as I had big hopes for the Captivate. I should have known better after all the work I have had to do on their other smartphones, that this one would be just as much a POS as all the others, BJ, BJ II, Epic, Jack.

rahlquist said:
With all due respect. Samsung has brought the hatred and anger on themselves. They choose to enter into agreements where they cant comment on the updates they provide. They choose to enter into agreements where they cant update their own hardware without the carriers blessing. They choose to allow their PR reps make comments about updates that never come dangling a carrot in front of those hopeful for the advanced features others on identical hardware in other countries enjoy.
Sorry they burned their bridges, they doused their customers with gasoline, you cant blame us for wanting to embrace them with our last fiery breaths.
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I agree.
But when fortune turns in your favor, what's the best thing to do?
Continue the outrage and anger (justifiable as it may be) or turn the other cheek and see if something constructive can't be done?

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This is awesome!! Come on people, more sigs!!!
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Until we get another blackout, I don't particularly see this going anywhere.

Signed, thanks for posting this. :good:

Waste
Yes, let's all take the time to provide our email address to an organization looking for donations to advance ideas that have ZERO chance of ever seeing the light of day. The last patent reform effort hasn't even kicked I yet. Congress won't look at this issue again for another 50 years, least of all at the urging of these hacks.