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Hi @ll..
i will buy the new HTC TyTN II in the next 2 weeks. This one has an Qualcomm 7200 Processor with a speed of 400 Mhz.
Today i found the XDA Flame (cause of the GeForce 5500 ;-) ) and found out, that its the Toshiba G900 with a XScale PXA270 with 520 Mhz.
But this Processor is older than the one of Qualcomm, isn´t it?
So my question:
is the qualcomm a better processor than XScale? Is it also faster? (i know.. 520Mhz vs 400Mhz.. i mean this, like on PCs.. i.e. a Pentium 3 with 300 Mhz is also faster than Pentium 2 with 300 Mhz)
thanxx
HTC TyTN processor vs. XDA Flame processor
I think that because the flame has the GoForce 5500 GPU in it, it means that the main processor doesn't have to worry with graphics - leaving it free to process other stuff. So it's more powerful then. I've got one, and it's pretty quick.
timn2087 said:
I think that because the flame has the GoForce 5500 GPU in it, it means that the main processor doesn't have to worry with graphics - leaving it free to process other stuff. So it's more powerful then. I've got one, and it's pretty quick.
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However, don't forget that VERY FEW OpenGL ES games / emus / demos (all desginedearlier for the 2700G) run on the Flame.
nEuDy said:
Hi @ll..
i will buy the new HTC TyTN II in the next 2 weeks. This one has an Qualcomm 7200 Processor with a speed of 400 Mhz.
Today i found the XDA Flame (cause of the GeForce 5500 ;-) ) and found out, that its the Toshiba G900 with a XScale PXA270 with 520 Mhz.
But this Processor is older than the one of Qualcomm, isn´t it?
So my question:
is the qualcomm a better processor than XScale? Is it also faster? (i know.. 520Mhz vs 400Mhz.. i mean this, like on PCs.. i.e. a Pentium 3 with 300 Mhz is also faster than Pentium 2 with 300 Mhz)
thanxx
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Take a look at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=342500 and http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=339745
hi, i try to run android on my htc tytn ii, but haret freeze!! in the "HaRET: Booting Linux ...", i send messages to a file and show this:
HaRET(1)# set MTYPE 1553
HaRET(3)# set KERNEL zImage-kaiser-new.bin
HaRET(5)# set RAMSIZE 0x7800000
HaRET(6)# set RAMADDR 0x10000000
HaRET(11)# set INITRD android.bin
HaRET(15)# bootlinux
boot KERNEL=zImage-kaiser-new.bin INITRD=android.bin
Opening file zImage-kaiser-new.bin
Opening file android.bin
boot params: RAMADDR=10000000 RAMSIZE=07800000 MTYPE=1553 CMDLINE='root=/dev/ram0 ro console=tty0'
Boot FB feedback: 1
Built virtual to physical page mapping
Allocated 5368 pages (tags=56000000/15f34000 kernel=56001000/15f2e000 initrd=56117000/15e1a000 index=574EF000/14a40000)
Built kernel tags area
Built page index
Video buffer at 51B00000 sx=240 sy=320 mx=60 my=53
Video Phys FB=10000000 Fonts=14a39064
Framebuffer overlaps with kernel destination
[email protected]/14a38000 sj=574F7000 stack=574F5000/14a3a000 data=574F6000/14a39000 exec=14a38128
Reading 1138124 bytes...
Read complete
Reading 20804139 bytes...
Read complete
Launching to physical address 14a38010
Trampoline setup ([email protected]/220255f4/107fd5f4)
MMU setup: mmu=A0300000/10600000
Go Go Go...
twice it has worked, not because it fails.
Any idea?
I have used XDA Life with Intel 620mhz & then I used TyTn II, I feel the TyTn II is much better then Life. it has no problem with what so ever while running apps. my vote goes to tytn II.
Since there are tons of roms, and since none is perfect I'll try to keep track here of there benchmark results. Everybody is welcomed to help, I'll keep updating the 1st thread as results come since I'm not insane and neither have the time to test every rom avaible. Please do the tests after you installed all your apps since noone is interested of the results in the best case scenario, but in day to day use.
Please use Quadrant, Neocore, Linpack and post here the results and I'll update the post.
Thank you.
Im aware that each device will have different results and results may vary from each run, So as results will come, I'll post Highest score, Lowest score and Average Score at each rom.
Average will be posted when enough scores will be avaible
Higher is better, higher means faster ROM, smoother scrolling, more fps in games etc.
By public demand I'll keep the stats for 720p fps
[ROM] RoufianosV3 Official 2.2 Rooted|A2SD|EXT4| SUPERB [3/aug/10]
Quadrant
Hi: 1313
Lo: 1140
Av:
Neocore
Hi: 28.5 FPS
Lo:
Av
Linpack
Hi: 40.702
Lo:
Av:
720p FPS:
[ROM][3/08] ۵.NexTSense v2.1b Official Sense-FroYo 2.2 ·(720p | 2.09 |AP2SD+) by NeoP
Quadrant
Hi: 1438
Lo: 1191
Av:
Neocore
Hi: 29.2
Lo: 29.0
Av
Linpack
Hi: 40.380
Lo: 39.513
Av:
720p FPS:
[ROM] Official 2.2, with: busybox, old A2SD+, OpenVPN (TUN), EXT4 support, 802.11N
Quadrant
Hi: 1355
Lo: 1173
Av:
Neocore
Hi: 28.4
Lo: 28.1
Av
Linpack
Hi: 41.03
Lo: 31.657
Av:
720p FPS:
Froyo Sense LeeDrOiD Mod V1.7 03/08 l Official HTC 2.2 l Fast l Stable l A2SD+
Quadrant
Hi: 1314
Lo: 1170
Av:
Neocore
Hi: 28.6
Lo: 28.5
Av
Linpack
Hi: 36.825
Lo: 32.222
Av:
720p FPS:
reserved for .. dunno just in case
Leedroid 1.6 -> 1288 (quadrant)
Open desire 3.0.2 -> 1287 (quadrant)
Leedroid 1.6 -> 40.229 mflops (linpack)
OPen desire 3.0.2 -> 41.658 (linpack)
both benchmarks were performed 3 times and the best result was taken.
[ROM][3/08] ۵.NexTSense v2.1b Official Sense-FroYo 2.2 ·(720p | 2.09 |AP2SD+) by NeoP
Quadrant = 1384
Linpack = 40.306
Neocore = 28.8
[ROM][3/08] ۵.NexTSense v2.1b Official Sense-FroYo 2.2 ·(720p | 2.09 |AP2SD+) by NeoP
Linpack
1st: 40.099
2nd: 39.804
3rd: 39.513
Quadrant
1st: 1191
2nd: 1298
3rd: 1349
Neocore
1st: 29.0FPS
2nd: 29.1FPS
3rd: 29.2FPS
Please include 720 fps.
b-george said:
Please include 720 fps.
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+1
& nice job m8
this kind of thread we need
my resultats are:
Quadrant
1st. :1297
2nd.: 1288
linpack
1st :
36.331
38.122
The problem with this is that it you run it more than once you get different results. Should it be average?. Plus overclocking change things. On Opendesire 3.0.2. I get linpack of like 42 and quadrant near 1500 which is very different to toguy above!
Froyo Sense LeeDrOiD Mod V1.7 03/08 l Official HTC 2.2 l Fast l Stable l A2SD+
Quadrant: 1170 | 1261 | 1314
Neocore: 28.6 | 28.5 | 28.5
Linpack: 32.222 | 36.825 | 36.089
taylor162 said:
The problem with this is that it you run it more than once you get different results. Should it be average?. Plus overclocking change things. On Opendesire 3.0.2. I get linpack of like 42 and quadrant near 1500 which is very different to toguy above!
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Please do the tests after you installed all your apps since noone is interested of the results in the best case scenario, but in day to day use.
We should stick to non-oc i think.
And shouldnt the biggest score of linpack be posted instead of three first? It can get from 15 to 40....
Thread starter.. are you updating first post with max results from additional posts?
I love this topic!!!I think nextheme is the best!
Sent from my HTC Desire using Tapatalk
Hmm okay well I'm using opendesire 3.0.2 overcloked and I got:
Quadrant:
High 1599
Low 1439
Linpack
high 44. 372
low 42. 965
A brief explanation of what the scores mean might be helpful. e.g. the higher the the higher the quadrant the better/faster the ROM CPU is. I have no idea what Neocore, Linpack or Quadrant scores actually mean or do, but that may just be me...
Thanks
mattiadj said:
I love this topic!!!I think nextheme is the best!...
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You mean NexTSense?
taylor162 said:
The problem with this is that it you run it more than once you get different results. Should it be average?. Plus overclocking change things. On Opendesire 3.0.2. I get linpack of like 42 and quadrant near 1500 which is very different to toguy above!
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As ive stated in the title i was referring only @ roms based on oficial 2.09 release.
Overclocking is not possible at the moment at least till htc will not release the source code for their kernel, so roms w/ o/c are not based on htc latest kernel.
And since people are asking i'll add the 720p fps to each rom.
Thanks again for helping me doing this statistics. I can only test the roms im using.. and im not a flash addict
Including 720p fps is useless. It is dependent on the lightning conditions above all else, so unless there is a real 'lab' to make sure the recording conditions are exactly the same, 720p fps recording measurement is impossible to compare between ROMs.
I have 40.702 linpack for Roufianos V3 so you can add that.
Quadrant gave me after three tests 1140 (only!!), 1307 and 1313
I tested NextSense 2.1b also but i could not get more than 38.. i dont know why.
Quadrant on the other hand got my phone on top of the list with 1348!!
taylor162 said:
Hmm okay well I'm using opendesire 3.0.2 overcloked and I got:
Quadrant:
High 1599
Low 1439
Linpack
high 44. 372
low 42. 965
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have the opendesire 3.0.2 and get the same ..
How to test 720p? any app?
Hi Guys
Just sold my Desire HD, and i am looking forward to replace it with the sensation, however my only concern is the extremely poor benchmarks that floated on the internet.
I know that benchmarks dont tell the whole story, but they kind of give you an indication. The sensation scored 1200 on quadrant. My desire HD with a single core scored more than that on stock ROM
Other mobiles like the Galaxy S II score a frightening mark of 3200 to 3500
I know that its firmware might not be finished, but by how much will tweaking increase the score from 1200
I really want to buy the sensation but i cannot but really think of why it is getting such low scores on quadrant
Anyone got feedback on this
Also has anyone solid benchmarks showing Mali 400 versus Adreno 220
thanks
The Sensation ROMs that were benchmarked were running on one core. It will likely be around 3000 on Quadrant.
redbullcat said:
The Sensation ROMs that were benchmarked were running on one core. It will likely be around 3000 on Quadrant.
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what about adreno 220 versus Mali 400, there is no clear post that shows which one performs better
what is the source for the information saying that the benchmarked ROM was using only single core ?
RADLOUNI said:
what about adreno 220 versus Mali 400, there is no clear post that shows which one performs better
what is the source for the information saying that the benchmarked ROM was using only single core ?
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No idea about GPU's. I'd personally say they'd be about the same, but I'm naive, what do I know?
There was a comment on this part of the forum a couple of days/possibly a week back saying that it was running on one core. Tbh it's common sense, but hey
Hello
Will the sensation be better for playing games than the SGS 2, which needs games to be updated before they can play on the mali400? I hoping apps and games don't have to be recoded/reprogrammed to work on the adreno 220, if they work/play fine on the adreno 205?
Thanks
Ian
Not 100% sure but I think the problem with the SGS2 is that the Mali400 GPU doesn't support any form of texture compression. So any games that use texture compression needs to be recompiled and have the textures modified.
The Sensation should not have the same problem since the adreno 220 is just the next gen of the 205 and should be backward compatible.
benchmark
Any new benchmarks comparing ADRENO 220 with MAli 400
i've seen a benchmark for an overclocked CPU with ADRENO 220 (clocked at 1.5 GHz). This does not give a good comparison as the real life sensation will be clocked at 1.2 GHz
Also any new overall benchmarks for the sensation, the old ones scored horrible 1200 pts. People are saying this is because the preliminary firmware is using only one core, but they did not post any reference proving their claim
RADLOUNI said:
Any new benchmarks comparing ADRENO 220 with MAli 400
i've seen a benchmark for an overclocked CPU with ADRENO 220 (clocked at 1.5 GHz). This does not give a good comparison as the real life sensation will be clocked at 1.2 GHz
Also any new overall benchmarks for the sensation, the old ones scored horrible 1200 pts. People are saying this is because the preliminary firmware is using only one core, but they did not post any reference proving their claim
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Wtf are you saying -_- ? String a complete coherent sentence together, damn no child left behind...
Sent from my LG-P999 using XDA App
RADLOUNI said:
Any new benchmarks comparing ADRENO 220 with MAli 400
i've seen a benchmark for an overclocked CPU with ADRENO 220 (clocked at 1.5 GHz). This does not give a good comparison as the real life sensation will be clocked at 1.2 GHz
Also any new overall benchmarks for the sensation, the old ones scored horrible 1200 pts. People are saying this is because the preliminary firmware is using only one core, but they did not post any reference proving their claim
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What you're saying is not entirely true.
The 1.5 GHz is the chip's default speed (check Qualcomm's website) - the benchmark was of the Qualcomm development unit (MDP). The Sensation uses an underclock probably to reserve battery life.
Keep in mind, and I'm basing it entirely on tidbits I hear here and there on this forum and on tech blogs, that Qualcomm CPUs tend to get higher overclock speeds than the competition (or at least those who do it make more noise ).
As for the early benchmark - I was able to play with a similar device in question, software version 0.50.something, and yes - it was horrid. I ran Neocore just for laughs and it got 5 FPS. Later on I had a few minutes with one running 1.05 (not the final 1.20 that was leaked) and Neocore got 59.9. Wish I could upload a screenshot, but if I did I'd probably get fired (it has the confidential watermark with the serial number on it, which could than trace it directly to me).
Do take the above with a grain of salt - this is the internet and at the moment I have no way to give solid proof that what I said is true - you can just take my word for it (which if you're smart - you won't).
I will say this though - I have already pre-ordered one.
I think the Qualcomm cpus are the most efficent by far. My dhd runs undervolted all the way up to 1.2ghz and overvolts upto 1.6ghz, we have a stable 2ghz kernel atm too, my phone has never felt warm or hot. So it wouldn't surprise me if it was natural running at 1.5ghz.
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App
Trekest said:
What you're saying is not entirely true.
The 1.5 GHz is the chip's default speed (check Qualcomm's website) - the benchmark was of the Qualcomm development unit (MDP). The Sensation uses an underclock probably to reserve battery life.
Keep in mind, and I'm basing it entirely on tidbits I hear here and there on this forum and on tech blogs, that Qualcomm CPUs tend to get higher overclock speeds than the competition (or at least those who do it make more noise ).
As for the early benchmark - I was able to play with a similar device in question, software version 0.50.something, and yes - it was horrid. I ran Neocore just for laughs and it got 5 FPS. Later on I had a few minutes with one running 1.05 (not the final 1.20 that was leaked) and Neocore got 59.9. Wish I could upload a screenshot, but if I did I'd probably get fired (it has the confidential watermark with the serial number on it, which could than trace it directly to me).
Do take the above with a grain of salt - this is the internet and at the moment I have no way to give solid proof that what I said is true - you can just take my word for it (which if you're smart - you won't).
I will say this though - I have already pre-ordered one.
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If the neocore was that fast, that'll do me nicely one other question, will the sensation struggle to play resource heavy games with the ram only being 768mb?
Thanks
Ian
Beaker491 said:
If the neocore was that fast, that'll do me nicely one other question, will the sensation struggle to play resource heavy games with the ram only being 768mb?
Thanks
Ian
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No it will not heavy emulator rely more on the CPU than the gpu. Look at computer you can have a crappy gpu and an I7 processor would play an xbox Wii emulator just fine. Mytouch 4g plays n64 emulator just fine.
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hmmm... honestly its what resources the games use because i have seen bench marks of the intel i5, i7 vs the amd phenom 2 x4 and the scores were quite similar because of the gpu... so i would take everything said with a bit of salt
For not duplicating the thread, see the post I posted on Sensation category
armv7:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1399258
added special set for SGSII
screens and patch are there
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For those who on armv6 devices, here's fully optimized and reworked cache: http://www.mediafire.com/?992ou6xbx6t49r8
- gives slightly better performance on budget devices
originaly posted here: http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=291245&st=3220#entry10350259
thnx to DjDiversant & QRmegweg
update in first post
Works great! Thanks for this but there's no sound? Is that what we have to sacrifice for insane performance.
These effects are already enabled for the Samsung Galaxy 10.1? I already have rain / lights / etc. OH DUH, for NON Tegra. My mistake.
*se-nsei. said:
Works great! Thanks for this but there's no sound? Is that what we have to sacrifice for insane performance.
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You mean on armv6? Looks like it
sorry it's not tested by me, as i'm on armv7
but i believe they are just removed from sd card
Yeah, I'm on armv6 and I tried with and without audio folder. Audio slows it down way too much.
Works perfectly without though.
Reposted on HTC WFS forum !
this work for RAZR? or would there need to be a specific patch for the RAZR's PowerVR gpu?
Cant wait to try out GTA in mobile
Not that I would normally talk about IOS users, but I found a sire that explans how one may HEX EDIT their GTA3.set file to get slightly better performance. By using Chainfire 3D, the H.E. method and the XDA Data package for GTA 3 I was able to get nearly 95% lag-free play on my 800 MHz Samsung Admire by MetroPCS. For those interested,
0x568 - Draw Distance
(CC CC) 5C
(CD CC) 4C = Minimum
(CC CC) A4 = Apple A4 Devices-only
0x67c - Lighting
02 = On, 00 = Off
0x676 - Resolution
80 = Hi-Res, 19= Low-Res
0x678 - Shadows
01 = On, 00 = Off
SpawnHyuuga said:
Not that I would normally talk about IOS users, but I found a sire that explans how one may HEX EDIT their GTA3.set file to get slightly better performance. By using Chainfire 3D, the H.E. method and the XDA Data package for GTA 3 I was able to get nearly 95% lag-free play on my 800 MHz Samsung Admire by MetroPCS. For those interested,
0x568 - Draw Distance
(CC CC) 5C
(CD CC) 4C = Minimum
(CC CC) A4 = Apple A4 Devices-only
0x67c - Lighting
02 = On, 00 = Off
0x676 - Resolution
80 = Hi-Res, 19= Low-Res
0x678 - Shadows
01 = On, 00 = Off
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Could you please provide your gta3.set?
Sent from my HTC Sensation using xda premium
Thanks for the post. I have tried data files from many different sites but the one you pointed is by far the best one for my galaxy fit.
With enabler, is it possible for gta to be played at single core, adreno 205 devices? Such as desire HD
Woot works perfectly on my phone, thnx for the trick!
The3File said:
Could you please provide your gta3.set?
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Here is gta3.set with his tweaks, attached.
how should we play enabling the sounds?
ive already over clocked the cpu
please some one upload it
I run GTA3 on my HTC HERO on ARMv6 ?????
Thanks nice on p500
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would it be possible for this to run on an LG ms690(optimus m)? im on an armv6, oc'd @825, with chainfire3d enhanced adreno 200 gpu. rooted, running reppards cm7's gb ver. 2.3.5. with v6 supercharger n dt's A2SD enabled
am i just kicking a dead horse?
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Here is gta3.set with his tweaks, attached.
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Thanks man
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Not needed anymore I guess? Since now the game has all the settings in the ingame config.