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Push Notifications (for more than email)

I searched Google and the XDA forums and couldn't come up with much. With all the recent talk about the iPhone having push notifications I was wondering if something similar exists for Windows Mobile. I understand that unlike the iPhone, WM has the ability to multitask, but it would save battery life if it supported other push notifications (not just email). Does anyone know if such a thing exists? I am mainly looking for push notifications of instant messages because it seems like every IM application I've tried drains the battery pretty fast if I leave it open in the background.

But something in BG must be open to know when notified battery drains because data conn is on! IPhone probably make control every X min/sec like mail or IM.
D'rath

[Q] Facebook Push Notifications

The Facebook Push Notifications doesn't work for me. Chat is working fine, but not comments, Friend requests and so on!.
Does it work for anyone here with Facebook 1.5.1? If Yes what are your settings?
Android 2.2.1 DHD Leedroid 1.5.1a Facebook 1.5.1

it does not work for me either ...

I haven't had it working for me either..I will get notification bar updates but no push notifications.

damn it ... I think they removed this function.. but why? What is with a downgrade.
Should be 1.5.0

Yep, it's been quiet for a while here too.

It has been quiet my end as well for some time.
I remember we used to get them

Does anyone have the Facebook 1.5.0 version, I would try this out!

I tried it with fb 1.50, too.
Doesnt working either!

My understanding of Facebook push notifications is that they SUCK!!! Sorry about that. When normal people think of push notifications we think of notifications of things we actually want to be notified of like wall posts, comments, likes, etc. Unfortunately for us when Facebook thinks push notifications they think about pushing us notifications for things we don't care about like event invites and inbox messages.
I don't have much in faith in facebook in that we will ever get push support for all notifications :-( It seems to me that facebook's strategy for android will be to integrate features into the phone instead of delivering a stealer app people. This means working with OEMs as they have been as of late. I don't think we will ever get a useful app from facebook.
Currently I think Tweetdeck provides you with the most comprehensive facebook notification support and when you combine that with the actually facebook app all notifications are covered I believe. The only downside is that Tweetdeck is poll driven.

I used to get it for comments, wall post, inbox bla bla..
now didnt get it anymore.. oh well, thats fine... it's not like my world will end without push noti anw

I think 1.5.1 broke or disabled the push notifications feature.

flow
Have you guys tried facebook flow? I just installed it testerday. I has the option of utilizing gmail push notification to send/recieve facebook notifications.
Ive liked it more and more since I have installed it, and the push works great

Yeah man. Sad that Facebook not going to deliver an application for android users. Sigh..
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Any IM app that is PUSH technology rather than Pull? Besides Gtalk.

BryanChung said:
Any IM app that is PUSH technology rather than Pull? Besides Gtalk.
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I believe both beejive and trillian use push notifications.
trillian is half the price of beejive and if you use trillian's desktop or web app you can have your im conversations on your phone synced to those products.
beejive on the other hand saves your conversations to your sdcard and also has the ability to email the transcripts to what ever account you want.
trillian lets you set a custom ringtone for notifications where as beejive only lets you pick from either the yahoo, msn, or aol im sound. I think this is unfortunate though beejive lets you set a different sound when the app is active and when it is idel which is cool
beejive will notify you in the status bar when you receive an im as well as blink the led, though I think the status bar notification is timed (by that I mean the notification disappears from the status bar after some set time. This is what I have noticed idk anything official)
I believe trillian also notifies you in the status bar. trillian also allows you to suspend the app. this logs you out of the app on the phone but keeps you logged into all your im services on trillian's servers. I think this is prob similar to beejive's idel stat in that it is designed to use less battery when not actively using the app. If the app is suspended you will receive an email notification that you have received an im.
As far as support goes, trillian has a forum that you can post any questions in. The only support for beejive that I know of are their email addresses listed on their website and the market-place and I haven't had much luck when emailing them questions.
beejive also lets you set your status: available, away, busy, and invisible and also have custom status messages for each service. You can also delete, appear offline, and block contacts though I haven't had success with those features.

I think that they should re-add those features back.

For a second there, I thought I was the only one that noticed that Facebook push notifications actually existed for a short while and then died. I've done multiple phone wipes and rebuilds to try to correct the problem. Now it's clear that it's a Facebook thing and not my phone.

I setup a gmail account just for facebook....I get instant notifications....I gave up on face book notification. And only reason i setup another gmail...so i can have a diffrent tone and nothing but FB mesages. THe moment you get your message its sent to your gmail you setup.

I think the lack of notifications is on purpose, and it makes sense. Here is why, an average person has well over 100 friends on FB, if you leave a comment on any post you recieve a notification on facebook each time someone responds, if you "like" a post, the same thing happens, now figure that you commented on 20 or more different posts and made a few yourself, Do you people have any idea how incredibly annoying it would be to get a notification everytime someone "likes" or comments on those same posts or links anytime after? It makes perfect sense why FB only pushes Friend Requests, PM's and Events. I won't even get into the amount of server bandwith it would be using. It's common sense.
I suppose it would be nice for them to offer an option in the settings for the people so incredibly obsessed with every little thing that happens on facebook but I myself would go insane if my phone vibrated or beeped everytime someone responded to a wall post.

Uh....Facebook allows push notifications for everything. Just not push notifications from app. Everything you mentioned is pushed to my gmail account or sms. Yes does get annoying if 50 people reply to a post but FB does push notifications.
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Threads... why?

Ive seen MS chose to combine IM and SMS and to me this looks really messy.
First of all the integration of IM is quite nice but I wish it was kept seperate from SMS conversations since these are to the majority of people still different than IMs and used on different devices or apps. I dont want to continue a conversation automatically on a different app or something. This will be very annoying to the other user.
Certainly if somebody just left his/her pc on or IM on accidently....
They should have added facebook private messaging as well and IM/SMS seperated like it was and just added a chat pivot in the messaging hub.
to me an sms is still something every user has always with him her, like when u send somebody an address or something it should be on their phones and not deliverd trough IM and its annoying having to switch first.
Its kind of short sighted implementation, the idea is good but the reality will be very annoying the way it works now.
you will get a ton of sms like notifications for every IM which can be annoying since on a chat conversation people send much more messages per minute than trough sms. Having to toggle online offline all the time will be a pita
am i the only one who thinks this will be garbage? Instead they should have allowed third party apps like whatsapp to use this on user permission. I hope I can switch off the live messenger. Or just revert back to the original sms screen

I like the idea to have an overview of my messages regardlessly whether they come via SMS, Windows Live or Facebook. Although I agree that getting notifications for all those messages shown on the SMS tile would be kind of overwhelming. But I can imagine Microsoft changes the way the tile works. So it still shows the number of SMS, but in addition to that shows an icon or something when you recieve a chat message from Facebook or Windows Live.

In my opinion.. the best feauture ever, of every OS. Loved that!

I love it as well, and think its nice not to have to go to 4 different places for my facebook, text, wlm & (eventually skype).
While I hope they either have a toggle setting for separate 'rows', or add it soon after Mango for those who really don't like it, I honestly doubt they want to mess it up by having too many places for messages. It fits in pretty perfectly with their vision for the overall UI design imo.

For me,M$ thread is not a new idea,it just copying the messaging app in the HP webos...however HP webos messaging is better,they can download apps that support HP connect and integrate into the messaging app(so,this means they can have more than 1 im clients in 1 messaging app).
Feel so sorry to HP webos,always being copied by others,even the UI design of playbook has been copied

Marvin_S said:
First of all the integration of IM is quite nice but I wish it was kept seperate from SMS conversations since these are to the majority of people still different than IMs and used on different devices or apps. I dont want to continue a conversation automatically on a different app or something. This will be very annoying to the other user.
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Threading will be the beginning of the end for SMS IMNSHO. Most people still use SMS because it's what they know and are used to.
My wife is a great example, she keeps sending me SMSes while I'm out because that's what she's used to. Even though I've had email (and to some extent IM) on my phones since forever. With a "messaging hub" it takes all the guesswork out of the equation - she'll write the message as she normally does and the phone will decide whether it should deliver via FB, Messenger, Skype or SMS.
Now, if you don't want to continue the conversation if the user has moved to a different device you don't have to. The phone will tell you how the message was sent as well as what services the recipient is currently logged on to.
Marvin_S said:
to me an sms is still something every user has always with him her, like when u send somebody an address or something it should be on their phones and not deliverd trough IM and its annoying having to switch first.
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This just proves my point - you're used to SMS. And again, you can choose whether to send as SMS or IM.
Personally I find this feature great. Two things should be done to make it even better though;
1. Implement a industry-wide protocol so it doesn't matter if you're on a crackberry, iphone or windows phone. Sure, Skype and Messenger goes a long way towards achieving this but there are still people who use smaller IM services only.
2. Allow third-party apps to hook in to the messaging hub - there's a few apps out there today that are not chat apps as such but still implement messaging. Being able to receive (and reply to) these messages from the same place would be great. It would also make it easier for other IM services to integrate with the OS.
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Although I agree that getting notifications for all those messages shown on the SMS tile would be kind of overwhelming.
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But why? Are you less likely to want to read a message coming in thru Messenger than one delivered via SMS? I for one don't care how my messages are delivered, I just want to be notified. It's a bit like having three post boxes outside your house - one for deliveries by DHL only, another for Deutsche Post and a third for everyone else - i.e. pointless

I really like this new feature as well. I am confident that any replies you send to someone will use the same service they used to "text" you, unless you choose to change it. People on non-WP7 phones won't suddenly need to be jumping all over the place.
On the other hand, when other people send you messages from multiple sources (SMS, FB, WLM, etc), you will be able to get all of the messages in one convenient place. I like that.

[Q] Some Facebook notifications don't come through

I'm getting rather frustrated with the whole Facebook and Android experience. I have used the official Facebook app, Flow for Facebook, which became FriendCaster and the Facebook Notifications app.
We all know the official app only works sometimes for notifications. FriendCaster and the notifications app work better, however not 100%.
For about the past three weeks now, whenever I would post a link on my wall and someone would comment on it, I would receive an email from Facebook saying so, but would never get a push notification of it on either FriendCaster Pro (using Gmail or K9 Push), or Facebook Notifications.
If someone commented on a regular Wall post I made (no links), those comments will come to the applications as push notifications.
I just don't understand what the difference is between a comment on a regular Wall post and a comment on a link Wall post. I figure since both apps fail to receive notifications of comments on the latter, that it must be something on Facebook's end.
Would someone with a greater knowledge of all things Android, Facebook and push have any insight on this?
Thank you.

Facebook Push Notifications
I'm no expert in Facebook or even Android (I'm a noob). However, I have heard the same exact issues on iphone, blackberry, and windows phones. I must agree that this is no doubt a facebook issue. I carry both an Android for pleasure and a Blackberry for work. I have tried the application on both personally and have experienced the lack of reliable notifications on both operating systems.
Hope that helps!
Lance

I remember the notifications being very reliable with the BlackBerry app. Perhaps I'm remembering through rose tinted glasses. I wish FB were like Twitter, where the notifications just worked.

There has been an article on portle about this and how people who had crackburrys previous should get the same reliability as previous check if still have bb authorised in fb as that was what some users found solved problem, I find issues with notifications not just limited to fb as g+ can be the same wonder if just a problem regarding process and sleep of device.
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Thanks for the info guys!! It has been a while since I tried facebook with the old blackberry so maybe the issues I had got ironed out. If I ever try it again on there I will make sure facebook has access.
Thanks,
Lance

A very key missing feature from Android...

First off I love my GNex... such a great phone and I love Android. However there is one feature missing that is probably keeping it from being used more in business. That feature is per folder notification. What I mean by that is if you have an exchange account configured on your phone and in your Mailbox you have a rule to move email from certain senders to a certain folder you will not get any sort of notification that you have received that email (yes the folder is set for Push Sync). If you check your email and click on your account name at the top you can see if there are emails as they do sync and show how many unread messages are in that folder so the possibility is there.
It seems like such a simple fix for something that would have a large impact. I had 2 co-workers all set to get an android phone and when i told them about this limitation one got an iPhone and the other is going to wait for the Windows 8 phones.
I am aware there are third party apps (not cheap) that supposedly provide this feature (touchdown) but aside from providing that feature I havent heard great things about them (and all seem to negatively affect battery life).
I was really hopeful that it would be addressed in JB but it still remains untouched after all these versions

WoodroweBones said:
First off I love my GNex... such a great phone and I love Android. However there is one feature missing that is probably keeping it from being used more in business. That feature is per folder notification. What I mean by that is if you have an exchange account configured on your phone and in your Mailbox you have a rule to move email from certain senders to a certain folder you will not get any sort of notification that you have received that email (yes the folder is set for Push Sync). If you check your email and click on your account name at the top you can see if there are emails as they do sync and show how many unread messages are in that folder so the possibility is there.
It seems like such a simple fix for something that would have a large impact. I had 2 co-workers all set to get an android phone and when i told them about this limitation one got an iPhone and the other is going to wait for the Windows 8 phones.
I am aware there are third party apps (not cheap) that supposedly provide this feature (touchdown) but aside from providing that feature I havent heard great things about them (and all seem to negatively affect battery life).
I was really hopeful that it would be addressed in JB but it still remains untouched after all these versions
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Have you tired Tasker?

Oh I'm aware there are apps that can help you with this but it should be a core functionality of the email.apk.
More apps doing stuff means worse battery life and more to backup/restore. Its hard to sell to business customers when their argument is "well with the iPhone it just works"

that's one thing that I really miss from my TP2 running winmo is the "persistent notifications" (that's what I call them anyhow). If you dismiss the notification in the curtain on android then its just gone. My old TP2 would show notification bubbles anywhere and everywhere you could think of.
if you had a text it would show on the text icon, if you were looking through your contacts it would show notification bubbles for text/call/email right on the contact info

i guess gmail.apk has that

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i guess gmail.apk has that
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and apparently devs aren't making use of it?
widgetlocker & tesla unread is the closest I've come to some of the old winmo functionality

three west said:
that's one thing that I really miss from my TP2 running winmo is the "persistent notifications" (that's what I call them anyhow). If you dismiss the notification in the curtain on android then its just gone. My old TP2 would show notification bubbles anywhere and everywhere you could think of.
if you had a text it would show on the text icon, if you were looking through your contacts it would show notification bubbles for text/call/email right on the contact info
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Many custom launchers (Nova, Apex, etc) give you the option of showing unread counts on the icons of apps such as SMS, Gmail, etc. Those shouldn't disappear when you dismiss notifications, so that would at least solve half your problem!

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Many custom launchers (Nova, Apex, etc) give you the option of showing unread counts on the icons of apps such as SMS, Gmail, etc. Those shouldn't disappear when you dismiss notifications, so that would at least solve half your problem!
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If I was on an ICS+ rom that would be more helpful, but it's something to look forward to at least. Although none them seem to have that feature for standard email which is where I miss it most.
I'll have to check out holo because I believe it at least does the same sms and calls.

three west said:
If I was on an ICS+ rom that would be more helpful, but it's something to look forward to at least. Although none them seem to have that feature for standard email which is where I miss it most.
I'll have to check out holo because I believe it at least does the same sms and calls.
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I did this with LauncherPro back when I was on Android 2.3, so I'm guessing it should work with that for you?