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Android 2.2 Cloud to Device Messaging

Hi, i am no dev, sorry if this is the wrong section, but i realized that inside of Android 2.2 sdk or something there is the new C2DM Service. Even Google says that it could work very well for instant messages like this:
C2DM makes no guarantees about delivery or the order of messages. So, for example, while you might use this feature to tell an instant messaging application that the user has new messages, you probably would not use it to pass the actual messages.
http://code.google.com/intl/de-DE/android/c2dm/index.html
i searched for an app, which uses C2DM for instant messaging for serveral IM networks like icq, msn etc, but didnt found anything... all the messengers like ebuddy, meebo etc don't use this new push notification which should save a lot of battery, if the device gets pushed about new messages and only than the devices download the message from the server
what do you think about it?
PS: sorry for my crap english

Hopefully this new service will solve all the issues we have with the current crop of instant messengers and their frequent disconnection. This is one feature I miss from my old iPhone

i guess most developers of messaging apps are already working hard to incorporate c2dm into their clients. since froyo is still verry young and there is only one device yet that is officially running it, the use for this would have been verry smale yet. but im sure in a few weeks we will have lots of messaging apps using this feature.

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new Google Talk in FroYo already uses C2DM, other messengers are likely to follow in several months as more phones get FroYo

How is life going? Froyo is about 6 months old, 36 % running Froyo, and the only C2DM-using apps I know are Whatsapp, Jumpnote and Chrome To Phone. I know Google is holding several C2DM presentations.
I'm still missing a IM-app, soccer scores app and so on. Are there any developers working on this? Or is it hard to obtain acces for Google C2DM?

Triilian im and beejive im are using c2dm

hi to all,
when you want to use googles cloud to device messaging ,you must still connected wifi or wakes wifi up when you recieve an message like Googlemail or Trillian Messenger?
thx
p.s.:sry for my bad english
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[Q] Facebook Push Notifications

The Facebook Push Notifications doesn't work for me. Chat is working fine, but not comments, Friend requests and so on!.
Does it work for anyone here with Facebook 1.5.1? If Yes what are your settings?
Android 2.2.1 DHD Leedroid 1.5.1a Facebook 1.5.1

it does not work for me either ...

I haven't had it working for me either..I will get notification bar updates but no push notifications.

damn it ... I think they removed this function.. but why? What is with a downgrade.
Should be 1.5.0

Yep, it's been quiet for a while here too.

It has been quiet my end as well for some time.
I remember we used to get them

Does anyone have the Facebook 1.5.0 version, I would try this out!

I tried it with fb 1.50, too.
Doesnt working either!

My understanding of Facebook push notifications is that they SUCK!!! Sorry about that. When normal people think of push notifications we think of notifications of things we actually want to be notified of like wall posts, comments, likes, etc. Unfortunately for us when Facebook thinks push notifications they think about pushing us notifications for things we don't care about like event invites and inbox messages.
I don't have much in faith in facebook in that we will ever get push support for all notifications :-( It seems to me that facebook's strategy for android will be to integrate features into the phone instead of delivering a stealer app people. This means working with OEMs as they have been as of late. I don't think we will ever get a useful app from facebook.
Currently I think Tweetdeck provides you with the most comprehensive facebook notification support and when you combine that with the actually facebook app all notifications are covered I believe. The only downside is that Tweetdeck is poll driven.

I used to get it for comments, wall post, inbox bla bla..
now didnt get it anymore.. oh well, thats fine... it's not like my world will end without push noti anw

I think 1.5.1 broke or disabled the push notifications feature.

flow
Have you guys tried facebook flow? I just installed it testerday. I has the option of utilizing gmail push notification to send/recieve facebook notifications.
Ive liked it more and more since I have installed it, and the push works great

Yeah man. Sad that Facebook not going to deliver an application for android users. Sigh..
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Any IM app that is PUSH technology rather than Pull? Besides Gtalk.

BryanChung said:
Any IM app that is PUSH technology rather than Pull? Besides Gtalk.
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I believe both beejive and trillian use push notifications.
trillian is half the price of beejive and if you use trillian's desktop or web app you can have your im conversations on your phone synced to those products.
beejive on the other hand saves your conversations to your sdcard and also has the ability to email the transcripts to what ever account you want.
trillian lets you set a custom ringtone for notifications where as beejive only lets you pick from either the yahoo, msn, or aol im sound. I think this is unfortunate though beejive lets you set a different sound when the app is active and when it is idel which is cool
beejive will notify you in the status bar when you receive an im as well as blink the led, though I think the status bar notification is timed (by that I mean the notification disappears from the status bar after some set time. This is what I have noticed idk anything official)
I believe trillian also notifies you in the status bar. trillian also allows you to suspend the app. this logs you out of the app on the phone but keeps you logged into all your im services on trillian's servers. I think this is prob similar to beejive's idel stat in that it is designed to use less battery when not actively using the app. If the app is suspended you will receive an email notification that you have received an im.
As far as support goes, trillian has a forum that you can post any questions in. The only support for beejive that I know of are their email addresses listed on their website and the market-place and I haven't had much luck when emailing them questions.
beejive also lets you set your status: available, away, busy, and invisible and also have custom status messages for each service. You can also delete, appear offline, and block contacts though I haven't had success with those features.

I think that they should re-add those features back.

For a second there, I thought I was the only one that noticed that Facebook push notifications actually existed for a short while and then died. I've done multiple phone wipes and rebuilds to try to correct the problem. Now it's clear that it's a Facebook thing and not my phone.

I setup a gmail account just for facebook....I get instant notifications....I gave up on face book notification. And only reason i setup another gmail...so i can have a diffrent tone and nothing but FB mesages. THe moment you get your message its sent to your gmail you setup.

I think the lack of notifications is on purpose, and it makes sense. Here is why, an average person has well over 100 friends on FB, if you leave a comment on any post you recieve a notification on facebook each time someone responds, if you "like" a post, the same thing happens, now figure that you commented on 20 or more different posts and made a few yourself, Do you people have any idea how incredibly annoying it would be to get a notification everytime someone "likes" or comments on those same posts or links anytime after? It makes perfect sense why FB only pushes Friend Requests, PM's and Events. I won't even get into the amount of server bandwith it would be using. It's common sense.
I suppose it would be nice for them to offer an option in the settings for the people so incredibly obsessed with every little thing that happens on facebook but I myself would go insane if my phone vibrated or beeped everytime someone responded to a wall post.

Uh....Facebook allows push notifications for everything. Just not push notifications from app. Everything you mentioned is pushed to my gmail account or sms. Yes does get annoying if 50 people reply to a post but FB does push notifications.
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Threads... why?

Ive seen MS chose to combine IM and SMS and to me this looks really messy.
First of all the integration of IM is quite nice but I wish it was kept seperate from SMS conversations since these are to the majority of people still different than IMs and used on different devices or apps. I dont want to continue a conversation automatically on a different app or something. This will be very annoying to the other user.
Certainly if somebody just left his/her pc on or IM on accidently....
They should have added facebook private messaging as well and IM/SMS seperated like it was and just added a chat pivot in the messaging hub.
to me an sms is still something every user has always with him her, like when u send somebody an address or something it should be on their phones and not deliverd trough IM and its annoying having to switch first.
Its kind of short sighted implementation, the idea is good but the reality will be very annoying the way it works now.
you will get a ton of sms like notifications for every IM which can be annoying since on a chat conversation people send much more messages per minute than trough sms. Having to toggle online offline all the time will be a pita
am i the only one who thinks this will be garbage? Instead they should have allowed third party apps like whatsapp to use this on user permission. I hope I can switch off the live messenger. Or just revert back to the original sms screen

I like the idea to have an overview of my messages regardlessly whether they come via SMS, Windows Live or Facebook. Although I agree that getting notifications for all those messages shown on the SMS tile would be kind of overwhelming. But I can imagine Microsoft changes the way the tile works. So it still shows the number of SMS, but in addition to that shows an icon or something when you recieve a chat message from Facebook or Windows Live.

In my opinion.. the best feauture ever, of every OS. Loved that!

I love it as well, and think its nice not to have to go to 4 different places for my facebook, text, wlm & (eventually skype).
While I hope they either have a toggle setting for separate 'rows', or add it soon after Mango for those who really don't like it, I honestly doubt they want to mess it up by having too many places for messages. It fits in pretty perfectly with their vision for the overall UI design imo.

For me,M$ thread is not a new idea,it just copying the messaging app in the HP webos...however HP webos messaging is better,they can download apps that support HP connect and integrate into the messaging app(so,this means they can have more than 1 im clients in 1 messaging app).
Feel so sorry to HP webos,always being copied by others,even the UI design of playbook has been copied

Marvin_S said:
First of all the integration of IM is quite nice but I wish it was kept seperate from SMS conversations since these are to the majority of people still different than IMs and used on different devices or apps. I dont want to continue a conversation automatically on a different app or something. This will be very annoying to the other user.
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Threading will be the beginning of the end for SMS IMNSHO. Most people still use SMS because it's what they know and are used to.
My wife is a great example, she keeps sending me SMSes while I'm out because that's what she's used to. Even though I've had email (and to some extent IM) on my phones since forever. With a "messaging hub" it takes all the guesswork out of the equation - she'll write the message as she normally does and the phone will decide whether it should deliver via FB, Messenger, Skype or SMS.
Now, if you don't want to continue the conversation if the user has moved to a different device you don't have to. The phone will tell you how the message was sent as well as what services the recipient is currently logged on to.
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to me an sms is still something every user has always with him her, like when u send somebody an address or something it should be on their phones and not deliverd trough IM and its annoying having to switch first.
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This just proves my point - you're used to SMS. And again, you can choose whether to send as SMS or IM.
Personally I find this feature great. Two things should be done to make it even better though;
1. Implement a industry-wide protocol so it doesn't matter if you're on a crackberry, iphone or windows phone. Sure, Skype and Messenger goes a long way towards achieving this but there are still people who use smaller IM services only.
2. Allow third-party apps to hook in to the messaging hub - there's a few apps out there today that are not chat apps as such but still implement messaging. Being able to receive (and reply to) these messages from the same place would be great. It would also make it easier for other IM services to integrate with the OS.
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Although I agree that getting notifications for all those messages shown on the SMS tile would be kind of overwhelming.
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But why? Are you less likely to want to read a message coming in thru Messenger than one delivered via SMS? I for one don't care how my messages are delivered, I just want to be notified. It's a bit like having three post boxes outside your house - one for deliveries by DHL only, another for Deutsche Post and a third for everyone else - i.e. pointless

I really like this new feature as well. I am confident that any replies you send to someone will use the same service they used to "text" you, unless you choose to change it. People on non-WP7 phones won't suddenly need to be jumping all over the place.
On the other hand, when other people send you messages from multiple sources (SMS, FB, WLM, etc), you will be able to get all of the messages in one convenient place. I like that.

notifications

i want to start by saying i love my htc titan and the wp7 os. just one thing keeps bothering me....its the damn twitter and facebook notifications. i can have the titan side by side with my iphone 4 and my iphone gets notifications way before the titan does. not only does the me hub not make a sound so i have to check it all the time but it get them way later. the facebook app just sucks in general, and it doesnt show half of my notifications. the mehdoh twitter app is great except it doesnt get notifications in a timely manner neither. so before i switch back what does everyone use(app wise) and how do yall deal with the notifications.

Well it depends really. I use the built in "Me" hub for most of my stuff but since I have 3 twitter accounts for various business I use Seesmic.
Personally I would get really annoyed if my phone was dinging constantly from the flood of tweets. It is bad enough that I have notifications pop up on my desktop. I sggest letting microsoft know on their uservoice site that you want faster notifications on certain apps. They will listen.

Mehdoh runs as a background task so polls when the OS schedules it to (which MS claims is every 30 minutes, but in reality is more every 30-60 minutes... often closer to the latter).
If you want instant (or as close as) notifications then you need a twitter client that has push notifications. Rowi has them... Birdsong allegedly has them but a lot of people say its currently broken.

I have apps that send notifications but don't have a live tile which is extremely annoying because I end up missing all these notifications.
A notification center and a backup solution are desperately needed on this OS.

[Q] Gmail won't allow to respond to calendar invites

Hi
I've searched for a solution to this problem and cannot find it. It either seems to work for people or it doesn't. As I understand it since a Gmail update at the end of last year this should work. So why isn't it for me?
The problem is when I receive a calendar invite in my email, on my old Galaxy S3 it would need to open the ICS in Calendar for me to be able to accept it. This was not ideal but it worked and I was never able to improve it. In my new Oneplus, it's even worse - if the invite is from Outlook I just get a blank email, with no ICS let alone yes/no options. From Google Calendar, I get weblinks and it takes me to a browser version of the calendar.
I cannot get my head round this, how can it be that the iPhone app by default has simple yes/no/maybe buttons that work in the email without jumping to any other app, but on Google's own phone it seems to have a problem with such a basic feature?
Please help, driving me mad! :crying:
Cheers

No-one?
OK, so can someone help me out with how this SHOULD work?
Here's what I see in the iOS app with an invite from Outlook:-
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And here is what I see in Android:-
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If the invite is from gmail, iOS works exactly the same but Android shows up like this, with weblinks:-
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Is this the same for everyone? If you see something different can you please post it and help me work out why I see something different? Surely Google's own OS should be able to handle calendar invites at least as well as it's app on iOS?!
Thanks!

Slightly shocked that not one person has replied with simply whether they see the same as me or not. Guess I'll have to go elsewhere

Same Here
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Slightly shocked that not one person has replied with simply whether they see the same as me or not. Guess I'll have to go elsewhere
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In the past, I had "Invitation Plugin" installed to be able to add the invitations to my calendar. But now, since there is no attachment or .ics or anything, even that doesn't work. I get the same "blank" emails as you. This is very frustrating as my wife and I use invitations for everything. She sends them, and I have to get to a PC to open my Gmail to see (and accept) the invitations. Very frustrating when this used to work.
I hope somebody has some answer/workaround for this.

I found a workaround. There's an app called Cal by any.do. It's just a calendar app, but, it does have an indicator/filter that shows pending invitations and allows you to accept/deny and notifies the meeting chair. This is mildly better than searching the entire calendar trying to find the pending invite.
So, when the email comes in, pop over to Cal and do the needful. Not perfect, but better than where I was before.

Thanks for replying, nice to know I'm not alone in this issue Yeah me and the wife do exactly the same
Yep, Cal seems to provide a workaround of sorts, thanks for sharing it. Seems utterly nuts that Google should make their own solutions work better on a competitive platform to their own. Very very poor
If anyone else has any solutions or comments would love to hear them
Cheers

same problem here
I'm running the latest gmail update (v 5.0) on KitKat and I get the same problem - google calendar invites present a links only that take me to a webpage. on gmail for my iPad get big easy buttons to use. How is it possible that the experience is better on iOS than Android?

Same problem here. Confirmed that it is because the invitation is from Outlook. Why is there no solution? Seems like the bug is on the Android Gmail client.

Still no solution available in June - as far as I can tell - is this some kind of spat with Microsoft?
It's a real PITA whatever it is...not what I expected running the latest software versions available.

nickjwall said:
No-one?
OK, so can someone help me out with how this SHOULD work?
And here is what I see in Android:-
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Is this the same for everyone? If you see something different can you please post it and help me work out why I see something different? Surely Google's own OS should be able to handle calendar invites at least as well as it's app on iOS?!
Thanks!
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I am facing the similar issue. My problem is bigger - I get at least 30-35 outlook exchange invites on my gmail account and my Gmail App shows just the emails (it doesn't show the date and time) which is sad. All the time, I have to check the calendar app, open each invite / meeting requests and select - Yes / No / Maybe from the Calendar. I so wish that the Android Gmail App comes up with a simple feature (just like you have shown for iOS Gmail App.) so that at least we will know that the email which we have received is an actual Outlook Meeting invite and not a standard email. Can somebody please contact Google Android department and raise this issue? I have tried to report this on the official Google App. Gmail forum but no luck on their response so far.
Again, thanks for bringing this up here on XDA.