Chances that an LCD + digitizer will fix this? - HTC Sensation

A coworker I started working with a few months ago told me about the much-better Sensation he had before his MyTouch 3G. It seems that he still had it, but stopped using it "because the screen cracked." I correctly surmised that it was a simple and cheap to replace touch screen digitizer and described to him that it was "just the glass cover" and that it was "cheap to replace." I have done many such repairs on other phones and gadgets.
He then told me that he had continued to use it until the LCD went blank. There is no reason to think that the LCD inside suddenly cracked, but I can only assume that it also sustained some kind of damage and now also requires replacement. Knowing that the LCD isn't cracked, what are the chances that a replacement LCD + digitizer will restore the phone? I'm concerned because we've already purchased a kit for $65.

Nobody can tell you that off the internet. If we do, that would be pure guess, just as accurate as you would have guessed.

sawo said:
Nobody can tell you that off the internet. If we do, that would be pure guess, just as accurate as you would have guessed.
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Well, someone could have had the exact same problem and already tried it. I ran into people with the same problem already. I'm just looking for more because some, no doubt, have tried it and others may have an alternate explanation. Reasonable.

there is a good chance that will fix the problem. but since the LCD was working for a while until it blank out, it is possible the problem might be with the circuit board. only way to know is to try it out.

CZroe said:
Well, someone could have had the exact same problem and already tried it. I ran into people with the same problem already. I'm just looking for more because some, no doubt, have tried it and others may have an alternate explanation. Reasonable.
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The LCD could go blank for several reasons. Faulty LCD, loose cable, faulty board etc. etc. Even if someone had the same problem, the reason for it could be completely different, thefore this wont help you at all except for giving you hope. If this is what you need, then i would say "yes, the change of lcd & digitizer should fix the problem" but you never can be sure unless you try When you start the phone, do you hear the startup sound? This could at least indicate that the phone isnt completely faulty.

brabusamg55 said:
there is a good chance that will fix the problem. but since the LCD was working for a while until it blank out, it is possible the problem might be with the circuit board. only way to know is to try it out.
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The plus side is that you can't make it worse. So you've got nothing to lose by trying to repair it, other than the few bucks for the parts.

Well, I took it apart to re-seat all the cables and it's still blank. Reading online, I see that a lot of dropped Sensations/Pyramids develop a loose/broken SMT capacitor component near the headphone jack, but I'm not registered on any of the forums I see it discussed on and I can't see the pics. They describe a slightly different problem anyway (screen goes blank after standby). I needed sleep, so I put it all back together and I'll check that out when the parts get here. My hunch is that the LCD panel is fine and that I'll have an extra, assuming the capacitor problem is fixable. I've done some delicate soldering work before but I can't really say that I'm good at it! I didn't see any loose SMT components rattling around so I hope it didn't fall completely out somewhere.
Skipjacks said:
The plus side is that you can't make it worse. So you've got nothing to lose by trying to repair it, other than the few bucks for the parts.
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Thanks but it's almost $70 for the parts.

Works great! Well, it had the touchscreen sensitivity issue pretty badly but the T-Mobile OTA update fixed that. Transferring all the adhesive bits from one screen to another was down-right frustrating, but I pulled it off and I only see a single spec of dust inside. The dude will be thrilled. I broke the earhook on my Looxcie so I did not make a video but it was full of me tearing and ripping the things anyway and not a good example of how it should be done!
FWIW, there was no way to remove the old screen without denting up the backing plate and prying the heck out of it to free it from multiple adhesives and glues, so I would not have had two good LCDs after testing the replacement even if there was nothing wrong with the original. Good thing it was the LCD at fault! I didn't have to drill anything like the glass replacement video I watched instructed me to do. They didn't realize that the LCD removal allows the flex PCB through just fine. I forgot to thread it back through before seating the replacement LCD in the adhesives and tape left-overs but it flexed enough to allow it through without removing, which was quite a relief after seeing how the original fared after being removed.

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Cracked Screen on my Touch Pro

I dropped my touch pro and cracked the screen in a few places. I think it works normally except for the screen, as it receives calls fine...
A new phone isn't in my budget right now. Does anyone know of a good place (hopefully in DC, MD or VA) that will supply or install a replacement touch screen?
(btw, no recent threads came up when I searched.)
Ebay!
Just looked, $30 including postage for a screen & digitiser if you are able to do it yourself.
How hard is it to replace a screen if it has surface damage? Is there anywhere i could find a walkthrough or help?
Shame man, its a tragedy of what happened to your phone...
Luckily its not too bad, and you may just be able to fix it. You can download the service manual for the phone here: http://htcwinmobile.blogspot.com/2009/03/htc-raphaeltouch-pro-service-manual.html
Just a note though, make sure you DO USE tweezers or something to get the speaker wires out of the way before snapping the enclosure back into position... I had to reopen the phone again, after powering it, to rejoin one of the little wires thats like a tenth of a millimeter thick DO NOT IGNORE ANYTHING THEY TELL YOU IN THE MANUAL. Oh, and what works well for the "plastic removal tool" is a cut out piece of plastic ice cream container. AGIAN, do not ignore anything in there... You are voiding the warranty permanently when you do it yourself (which you unfortunately have to).
Anyways, good luck!
I drop my phone also, but the screen didn't actually cracked! but I do have is problems with the screen in other ways! Sometimes I get a black screen when I turn on the phone and sometimes not, but when the screen turns on, it flickers a lot and have lines thru it. What suprises me is that sometimes I get perfect images on the screen (Which makes me think that the screen it's not damaged).
Any suggestion would be apreciated. Thanks!
3 days and still no answer from anyone! I would like someone to throw me ligth on this issue. I'm waiting for this to know exactly what I need to buy, before I start assuming things.
Thanks in advance!
a.mendoza said:
3 days and still no answer from anyone! I would like someone to throw me ligth on this issue. I'm waiting for this to know exactly what I need to buy, before I start assuming things.
Thanks in advance!
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Sounds like the LCD connector may have come unseated. You could open up the phone and make sure all connectors are firmly seated if you feel confident in your abilities.
maxh said:
Sounds like the LCD connector may have come unseated. You could open up the phone and make sure all connectors are firmly seated if you feel confident in your abilities.
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Thanks for the advice! I was thinking on that also and wanted to take my chances opening the phone (oh god!).
BTW, I saw the $30 LCD Screen+Digitizer combo on ebay that Beeble referred to, but I'm not sure if it fits on the fuze (my model). What have come to my mind it's to buy also the front camera of the phone (like a thread on the kaiser) to mod the cell, in case I need to buy the screen+digitizer. I've search all threads about this issue but nobody has done it because it was too expensive for the result; I believe with this price it's worth it right now!
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Try this steps:
http://www.pdacenter.ru/razborka/htc-touch-pro/
I used Diamod (!) LCD and Touch Pro digitiser. Works perfect.
Much more cheaper
If your screen works fine sometimes, you most likely don't need to replace it. there's probably just a loose connection somewhere. If you really want to replace it though, there's an ebay seller with a really good deal. $20 for the screen and digitizer already glued into a new front body piece: http://cgi.ebay.com/OEM-HTC-FUZE-LC...wItemQQptZPDA_Accessories?hash=item3ef8817bf6 That one's for the fuze, but I think the seller has other models too. I'd definitely get the LCD and digitizer together or else you might end up like I did on my first attempt: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=584050
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Try this steps:
http://www.pdacenter.ru/razborka/htc-touch-pro/
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WOW! What a long way to get to the screen. Good luck for everyone who tries to dismount and mount the Raphael.
maxh said:
If your screen works fine sometimes, you most likely don't need to replace it. there's probably just a loose connection somewhere. If you really want to replace it though, there's an ebay seller with a really good deal. $20 for the screen and digitizer already glued into a new front body piece: http://cgi.ebay.com/OEM-HTC-FUZE-LC...wItemQQptZPDA_Accessories?hash=item3ef8817bf6 That one's for the fuze, but I think the seller has other models too. I'd definitely get the LCD and digitizer together or else you might end up like I did on my first attempt: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=584050
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Thanks for the advise maxh,
I just wanted to let you know that a miracle just happened! my cellphone started to work just fine without even opening the phone! it has more than a week on this situation so I believe that it's exactly what you stated (the LCD conector became unseated or loose). Since it's still working, I have no need to open it! so I'll just wait until it becomes defective again and at that point just open it and tight up the LCD connector!
Anyway, I would love if somebody could make the mod that I was refereing to before (changing the screen of the fuze by the touch pro one) and see if it's possible to attach the front camera on the fuze.
Once again, thanks everybody for your opinions.
I got my new display+ digitizer on Ebay (65$) and replaced it, using the russian link mentioned above ( follow the exact procedure) , it took me 2 hours to do it, and after lot of patience it worked! My problem was the digitizer never worked fine, and after replaced it it worked like never before. If You are not familiar with repairs, it will be a mistake and waste of money to buy a display without digitizer. NOW, I have a small problem, my display has a NEW color, it's like color temp is WARM for this display, and COLD for my old display, AND COLOR level is lower, and the result is display without vivid colors, black like gray. Is there any way to change the DISPLAY color settings?

[Q] Busted LCD got blue screen?

Okay strait to the point! I've got a Galaxy S2 with Android 4.0.3 bought it 4 months ago.
I accidently dropped my phone and cracked my screen on the bottom right corner. The crack went from bottom and a diagonal line up til the right side. I took a picture below.
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This happened about 2 months ago. No problem since. I dropped the phone a few times afterward but it didnt seem to affect it lucky me.
Yesterday i tried watch some series over my WIFI and the phone got really hot around the camera area. The phone wasn't acting well either and then battery dropped from 75% til about 10% in 10 minutes without any video still showing up. (Never had that problem before). I stopped using it and instead put it on recharge for the next day. And today on the morning it was still okay. Went to school and back with the mobile still working. Put it on my table and checked my PC.
About 2 hours later while cheking up on my galaxy i discovered this.
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I think that the LCD finally busted but i need to be sure if it has something to do with the previous crack and also if you could provide any info about what to do with it? Does my warrenty cover this? Or do i need extra insuranse?
I really need help right now LCD blackned spots
The screen has started to turn black from the core of the LCD leak. I now really think this is a broken LCD screen and not a software problem. If someone knows what i could do to fix this i really could need the help right now.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong,
But it sounds to me like you've busted the digitizer portion of your device. As to it being caused by the small crack on your screen.. i don't really know(can't really see if it's a crack in the glass or digi). At any rate, judging from the second picture you provided us it most definitely looks like you damaged the digitizer.
Most companies don't really cover damaged screens caused by users. However, being that your S2 is only 4 months old you could possibly pass it as "it did it by itself, I don't know what happen". Worth a shot I guess...
If all fails you could bring it to a electronics repair shop or you can repair it yourself via a digitizer part bought on ebay(probably pretty expensive being that its part of the screen)
If all else fails check ebay for a new screen.
cbr69er said:
If all else fails check ebay for a new screen.
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/Full-LCD-Di...ltDomain_0&hash=item27c3101beb#ht_1618wt_1185
If your thinking about taking the DIY road I found a screen for you.Quick note about buying something overseas on eBay: it usually takes awhile for the part to ship and even when you get it, the part may not be functional. But don't fret, eBay is usually pretty good about stuff like this so a working part will be guaranteed or your money back!
If you do decide to repair it yourself I would first research A LOT about your phone. Especially, the disassembly guide! Try to use only credible guides such as iFixit, repair universe etc.
This only applies to flex ribbon cables:
when replacing screens sometimes you have to plug it in a few times before you actually get it to respond(could be cause by oxidation of the pins) if thats the case, you could try to take a #2 pencil eraser and gently rub against the pins and remove the oxidation...
Good Luck!
Please let me know how it goes!
rhodium9 said:
As to it being caused by the small crack on your screen.. i don't really know(can't really see if it's a crack in the glass or digi).
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Yes it is really a crack and a very annoying one. It doesn't cause any problems with the touch-function, so I've been using it normally but for the screen, it has gone completely black but for the top right part still a little darkblue. I think I'm going with your first answer and try to check it in on warranty have had a bit luck with it past couple of times but im not sure about changing it myself. If having no luck with warranty then maybe ill try doing it myself.
at any rate weather you get warranty to change it or you fix it yourself maybe youll learn to be more careful and get a case maybe???

[Q] Screen Issue

Hey All, Trying to help a coworker of mine. She dropped her phone the other day, and her screen now looks like this.
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Would something like this be the result of a damaged screen, or a contact that came loose in the phone. And would you even bother fixing this?
Thanks!
If the Device is Un-Rooted, and she has T.E.P. I would suggest taking it in to Sprint. It's the easiest way. That does look like a Hardware issue. It could be any of several things. I suppose you've already tried a Reboot ? If that didn't resolve it, and it's Un-Rooted take it into Sprint.
Sadly, no TEP.
Yeah, it's been rebooted many times. I took it apart even, to make sure all the connections looked good. Still got this issue.
You could try and find a cheap screen for it (amazon) and replace it
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swolltitan said:
Sadly, no TEP.
Yeah, it's been rebooted many times. I took it apart even, to make sure all the connections looked good. Still got this issue.
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UGH . No T.E.P is not what you wanna hear. Unless your willing to take it all the way apart and replace the Digitizer assembly. The reason I say assembly, and not just the Screen is because of the way the sceen appears to be acting. It will be a safer bet to replace it as an assembly instead of just the LCD Screen. It will also be slightly easier. It is not an entirely difficult job. You just have to be very, very careful, and take your time. Wear latex Rubber Gloves, and work in as clean an environment as you can get. I like to work late at night when no one is awake. If you do decide to do it there are Videos I can link you to, or you can Google them. Your other option is to take it to a Cell Phone repair shop. Usually for a reputable place your looking at between $60 - $100 for a LCD / Digitizer replacement.

[Q] Top half of phone submerged in water...Touchscreen dead...

This happened to my GF's phone. The top half of the phone was in water. Somehow it survived...Turns on fine and boots fine, but the touchscreen is dead...
What I'm wondering is if this item has a chance of fixing it:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2pcs-x-NEW-...699?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f0e1583eb
Yes, her phone is this model. Figured we might give this $7 possible solution a go before buying a new phone.
Any chance it will work, or is it likely water damage to some other internal part that communicates with the touchscreen? I know there's no way of knowing for sure, just wondering if there's a decent chance this new touchscreen will fix the issue...Thanks much
As you may already know, the digitizer is what turns the display into a touch-sensitive one. I say, since you'd have to take the phone apart anyway, take it apart now, and take a look. There may still be moisture inside, or you might find corrosion, or loosening/damage to the digitizer's ribbon.
Cant answer your questionbut am curious, how long ago this happen? You already try putting it in brown rice for a few days?

[Q] Touchscreen not working, digitizer probably not the issue, what else could it be?

I dropped my phone a few weeks ago, and the touchscreen stopped responding to touches in approximately the top third of the screen. If I run Screen Touch Test on the phone and I scribble all over the screen, my scribbles don't show in the top third of the screen, except where they are bunched together in in three straight lines. Being a noob on xda, I can't post an actual link to an image of this failure, but you can find one at imgur.com/DenQepu&Jj7dq5g
It looked like it was caused by a broken digitizer so I replaced it, but this didn't fix the problem. The second image in the above URL shows the phone in the same test with the new digitizer. It basically looks the same as the first image, though.
The digitizer vendor shipped me a digitizer which simply didn't work at all, the first time through, so it is possible that they shipped me a digitizer with the exact same issue as the original one. How common is this failure mode? And if it's likely that the new digitizer is fully functional, is there anything else I might have broken by dropping the phone which could be causing this failure? Having torn down and reassembled the phone quite a few times now, I can't imagine what else it could be...
The first thing you should do is check out THIS THREAD. Also I've had Bad Digitizers sent to me from shady vendors. So I would suggest going with a reputable vendor.
Thanks, prboy. I read through the thread, and it suggests it could be a problem with the ribbon cable. It had occurred to me that the problem might be with the cabling, so I have been looking at it pretty carefully. I don't notice anything obviously wrong with it. No tears, and the cable junctions seem to be working nicely, as best my naked eye can tell. :cyclops: No crunching sound when I open the keyboard. All cables were securely affixed to solid components when I first opened the phone, so it's also hard to see how dropping it could have damaged the cable.
All that said, I am a complete noob at this. This is the first time I've attempted such an intricate project. So I welcome critical feedback. Does a cable failure seem more likely at this point, given the touchscreen identical failure with the two different digitizers? Or does identical failure in the digitizers seem more likely?
It's hard to tell given that I don't have the Device in front of me. But that being said. As long as the Digitizer Vendor is reputable. I'd say that the Cable failure is a definite possibility. It would not be unheard of having a Flex Cable failure, even though it looks good. I've had them be bad, and still look good. Were you 100% sure the Digitizers were bad ? Make sure You and the Work surface are grounded. Also wear Latex No Powder Gloves. You will be very happy you did.
Thanks again, prboy. Found an otherwise functional evo 4g shift with a cracked screen on ebay for $25, so I will swap in my screen/new digitzer onto it, and see what happens. If all is well, it was definitely the digitizer which broke. Otherwise, I've got yet another digitizer to return to the vendor, and they will be getting very bad feedback from me. Will let you know how it goes. (After it arrives some time next week.)
Ok kool. Keep us posted
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