I am on Zeus ROM (actually, I don't think what ROM I am on matters here). After installing a few apps, I noticed that some apps go into internal memory, and some to external. I can't seem to get the logic of how it is decided where to direct which app. I never cared for install location, that is, until this morning.
I rebooted my phone in a routine once-a-week-reboot. When it booted up, it gave me a message that external sd got corrupt and needs to be reformatted. I overlooked it for the time being. Then when I reached work, I noticed about half my apps missing. Then it flashed to me that I noticed some apps in internal and some in external memory in TiBu.
I had to download TiBu too from market since it was missing, and then restored my apps. Now all are in internal memory since external card is corrupted.
Now, after all this history, my question would be to know if there is a way to force the default location of apps to internal memory. Infuse has loads of internal memory, and I see no harm in filling it up (well, that is, if I can really install that many apps).
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I am on Zeus ROM (actually, I don't think what ROM I am on matters here). After installing a few apps, I noticed that some apps go into internal memory, and some to external. I can't seem to get the logic of how it is decided where to direct which app. I never cared for install location, that is, until this morning.
I rebooted my phone in a routine once-a-week-reboot. When it booted up, it gave me a message that external sd got corrupt and needs to be reformatted. I overlooked it for the time being. Then when I reached work, I noticed about half my apps missing. Then it flashed to me that I noticed some apps in internal and some in external memory in TiBu.
I had to download TiBu too from market since it was missing, and then restored my apps. Now all are in internal memory since external card is corrupted.
Now, after all this history, my question would be to know if there is a way to force the default location of apps to internal memory. Infuse has loads of internal memory, and I see no harm in filling it up (well, that is, if I can really install that many apps).
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This is exciting. I get to help diablo.
Could be a trick..maybe not as easy as it looks.
There is a setting in manage applications that allows you to Move the app from sd to phone. Is this what you mean?
Settings.manage application. Click on app. Move to phone?
There are some market app s that will let you choose where to install an app as well....folio? Something..
I routinely do this for app i deem important...ie not games etc..
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This is exciting. I get to help diablo.
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Thanks qkster, that's so cute
qkster said:
Could be a trick..maybe not as easy as it looks.
There is a setting in manage applications that allows you to Move the app from sd to phone. Is this what you mean?
Settings.manage application. Click on app. Move to phone?
There are some market app s that will let you choose where to install an app as well....folio? Something..
I routinely do this for app i deem important...ie not games etc..
Did i pass?
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Not moving from phone to SD manually; I have to do this routinely on my touch pad cos of its low internal memory.
I was looking for a means of forcing an app to install to internal memory as a default. Even as we speak, with about 62 apps installed, I still have about 1.4 GB internal memory free (as per TiBu). I would prefer an app to go there, than to external SD.
By the way, it helps to have TiBu auto backup apps every day. I have two set up, one for newly installed apps, and one for all modified data everyday around 3 am. That saved my life with all apps with up to date data when I restored them.
diablo009 said:
Thanks qkster, that's so cute
Not moving from phone to SD manually; I have to do this routinely on my touch pad cos of its low internal memory.
I was looking for a means of forcing an app to install to internal memory as a default. Even as we speak, with about 62 apps installed, I still have about 1.4 GB internal memory free (as per TiBu). I would prefer an app to go there, than to external SD.
By the way, it helps to have TiBu auto backup apps every day. I have two set up, one for newly installed apps, and one for all modified data everyday around 3 am. That saved my life with all apps with up to date data when I restored them.
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I knew there was a catch.
Did you look at es task manager on market?
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I knew there was a catch.
Did you look at es task manager on market?
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Looking at it now
My interesting observation over the last few days:
Since moving all my apps to internal memory, for some reason, even with a lot of apps in memory, I still have about 150 MB free 90% of the time.
Earlier it used to fall to 80 too.
Phone is snappy, so not sure how this is happening. And since Infuse has loads of internal memory (mine has atleast 1.3 GB free), I think it might be better off moving apps to internal memory.
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I keep getting a low memory message. I have most apps i installed on the sd card, which is 8gb. I can't save evernote or backups. There is little media save 50 pictures. Anyone tell me how to free up some of the internal memory, or the usb storage?
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Do you have most of your apps installed on your sdcard or usbstorage? If your using the move to sd card method in manage applications, then it's going to store it in your usbstorage, not your external sd card. This happens with Apps2SD too.
How the hell can someone have their usb storage memory filled up with just apps?
Are you putting music or something in the usb storage, and not on your memory card?
I mean seriously, most apps are small. VERY small.
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How the hell can someone have their usb storage memory filled up with just apps?
Are you putting music or something in the usb storage, and not on your memory card?
I mean seriously, most apps are small. VERY small.
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That's true, but most apps also have additional data that they store in /sdcard. And since the blaze has /sdcard as usbstorage, everything goes there so it fills up quick. I have a lot of apps too but the ones that store data in the usbstorage, I move to /sdcard/external_sd by using GL to SD. Although it only works for gameloft games and data stored in /sdcard/Android and /sdcard/data, those are the two folders that usually take up the most space.
Well, gaming on your phone is the culprit obviously.
I don't have many apps at all, no games.
Now i can't even move any apps to my sd card. It says my memory is too low. I can't attach pictures.or.even open my gallery without getting this.message.
I'm not following.the.usb storage thing. How's it work?
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Your phone has something like 1 gig of storage that is supposed to effectively be ram where applications are stored, and another 1 gig of memory labelled as usb storage in the phone where data can be stored, or applications can be stored if it is set to "move to sd card".
Then of course, you have the actual SD card, of whatever size is in the phone.
Seriously, I can't say enough times, if your phone is low on memory, you are doing something weird.
For example, those gameloft games, are quite huge, and the additional data they require would go to usb storage. Two or three of them can fill up the phone's space without a problem. This would be true for any phone out there.
Another likely culprit is something simple...you might have been putting your music or video or other large amounts of stuff you want to have on the phone in one of the first two mentioned locations without realizing it. If you mount your phone to the computer, you've notice how two drives show up?
One drive is the "usb storage", and another would be the actual SD card you have in the phone. I don't know why it does this, but I suspect it's common as my sony e-reader does the same thing.
To put it simply, don't store things to the phone's "memory" that you don't need to, and you'll be fine.
usb storage
I took a look and sure enough, the usb storage contained things I thought were on the sd card. I don't have much media on this phone at all. Maybe 70 pictures, no music, a couple videos, and I have no gameloft games at all.
I noticed that some apps are also stored here. I moved the little media to the sd card, but can I also move the apps here?
And is there anyway to change the settings so these files are directed here rather than the internal storage?
"A couple videos" was probably the culprit, as they tend to be big files of course.
About moving the apps to the sd card....allow me comment on that, and then rant a little bit.
Many apps can be moved to the sd card. If it's enabled by the app, you can just go to settings, applications, manage applications or whatever, and select the application you want, and in the same screen where you can uninstall an app, some apps let you move them to the sd card. Not every allows this, and in general, if you have an app with a widget on the sd card, it either won't work, or something weird happens. (Android designed limitation with widgets)
Now, to my rant.
My first android phone was a nexus 1. Great phone, but compared to a lot of phones it has a small amount of program memory. So if people were prone to having lots of apps especially large ones such as google earth, java, or whatever, that space filled up quick.
I think it was around 2.2 when Android started opening up moving apps to the sd card.
To this DAY, you can go into the market comments and pretty much read moron after moron doing things like, "I rated this a 1, because I can't move it to the sd card! Gah, you suck, let me move this to the sd card!"
Some times they would have a point, but more often than not, they wouldn't.
For example, this app that was 25k in size, had 15 comments in a row about people whining to move it to the sd card. SERIOUSLY? 25k is NOTHING, even to a phone with limited memory such as a nexus one.
And then there would be people whining about apps on SD cards for apps that you SHOULD NOT put on an sd card. "What apps wouldn't you want to run on an sd card?", you might ask.
Any app that should be always running, or able to be run by some event changing, while your phone is plugged into the computer.
For example....let's say you have a call blocking app. There are a few, I use one myself. If you move it to the sd card, that app can not function if the sd card is mounted to the computer. Phones mount memory cards just like computers do, and if it's unplugged......it doesn't work! So if you have the card mounted in the computer and your phone rings....guess what, your call blocking app doesn't work, and that annoying jerk is making your phone ring again.
Somewhere, a kitten dies.
I used the call blocking app as an example as something that even though it's not doing anything most of the time, but that when another event happens (your phone ringing), it can't do it's function.
I used to know why widgets on the sd card didn't work, but I suspect it has something to do with just they can't work reliably on the sd card. For example, my preferred music player poweramp, can be moved to the sd card, and of course it has widgets. So.....the dev made an add-on you can download where the widget stays on the phone, the app goes to the sd card.
Personally, I just keep poweramp on the phone memory. Since it's one of my 5 most commonly used apps, it only makes sense, right?
I can't remember if flash for browsers is able to be moved to the sd card yet, but what I do know is people whined and whined and whined about it, not realizing that.........the browser wouldn't work very well if flash was installed to the sd card.
Titaniumbackup and probably other similar apps can force apps to the sd card that are not normally allowed, but they will of course caution you about doing it. Some of that caution verbiage is there for reasons which are in this post, and I'm sure there's other concerns as well.
Moving along to your last question...... that depends.
Some apps can be configured to have a preferred directory location for storage, but realize that there are still phones out there that either don't have memory card slots, or don't have "usb storage". As a result, sometimes it works easily, sometimes it doesn't, but most file explorer apps make moving stuff around pretty easy.
Personally, I'm not really sure what the point of having both is, but it seems to be common. All I know is that having a memory card slot is a good thing. There are a few reasons why I wish I would have just bought a google nexus, but...... odds are the 64gig microsdxc cards work in this phone, and well, I plan to buy one.
Sorry nexus, you're hot.....but having 4 times the music or video on hand, is something I think I would enjoy more.
I'm having the same issues with the Samsung Blaze ~ when I go to Settings, Storage, USB Storage it shows total space 1.40 GB and available 127 MB. When I go to files, usbstorage, there is NOTHING in it and it shows "no files". I have 4 applications I've downloaded, no more. ALL of my pictures and music are on the external card. When I go to active applications, then Storage, it shows System storage 119MB of 1.12GB, USB storage 1.28GB used of 1.40GB, and SD card 4.33GB used of 7.39GB. I don't have games on it at all.
I'm not an Einstein, but I'm getting really tired of everyone telling me I'm obviously not smart enough to have a smart phone. I'm no dummy when it comes to tech.
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"A couple videos" was probably the culprit, as they tend to be big files of course.
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similar problem - Rhapsody was the culprit
I had a similar problem -- I couldn't see any files in the USB Storage folder in Files, but it was full. In my case, Rhapsody was causing the issue -- by default it downloads music to /mnt/sdcard (or something like that, I changed it and can't remember the address exactly. But from what Cirkustanz said above, the Blaze interprets that address as "USB Storage" (confusing name, that) which is really internal storage. In the advanced settings for Rhapsody I changed it to /sdcard/external_sd and all of a sudden had 700MB free in USB Storage. Lost all of my Rhapsody downloads, however, and will have to add them back.
smiyem said:
I'm having the same issues with the Samsung Blaze ~ when I go to Settings, Storage, USB Storage it shows total space 1.40 GB and available 127 MB. When I go to files, usbstorage, there is NOTHING in it and it shows "no files". I have 4 applications I've downloaded, no more. ALL of my pictures and music are on the external card. When I go to active applications, then Storage, it shows System storage 119MB of 1.12GB, USB storage 1.28GB used of 1.40GB, and SD card 4.33GB used of 7.39GB. I don't have games on it at all.
I'm not an Einstein, but I'm getting really tired of everyone telling me I'm obviously not smart enough to have a smart phone. I'm no dummy when it comes to tech.
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"A couple videos" was probably the culprit, as they tend to be big files of course.
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focused67 said:
I had a similar problem -- I couldn't see any files in the USB Storage folder in Files, but it was full. In my case, Rhapsody was causing the issue -- by default it downloads music to /mnt/sdcard (or something like that, I changed it and can't remember the address exactly. But from what Cirkustanz said above, the Blaze interprets that address as "USB Storage" (confusing name, that) which is really internal storage. In the advanced settings for Rhapsody I changed it to /sdcard/external_sd and all of a sudden had 700MB free in USB Storage. Lost all of my Rhapsody downloads, however, and will have to add them back.
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smiyem said:
I'm having the same issues with the Samsung Blaze ~ when I go to Settings, Storage, USB Storage it shows total space 1.40 GB and available 127 MB. When I go to files, usbstorage, there is NOTHING in it and it shows "no files". I have 4 applications I've downloaded, no more. ALL of my pictures and music are on the external card. When I go to active applications, then Storage, it shows System storage 119MB of 1.12GB, USB storage 1.28GB used of 1.40GB, and SD card 4.33GB used of 7.39GB. I don't have games on it at all.
I'm not an Einstein, but I'm getting really tired of everyone telling me I'm obviously not smart enough to have a smart phone. I'm no dummy when it comes to tech.
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Its ur internal sd thats the problem u have to clean files out once in a while if u dont it will **** stuff up get astro or any file manager and go folder by folder and delete stuff and ur usb storage doesnt get used its just system internal and external thats all ur partitions in system settings it reads the part ur apps get put in when u put apps on sd as usb thats it but u cant look at them but just clean ur internal sd out clear caches and check lost.dir once in awhile too delete whatevers in there and u should be ok dont forget any videos u shoot in hd will be huge too those r in dcim... Thats why i switch my mounts and i keep my sdcards clean so i can have like 5 6 huge games and still have space but to each his own good luck tho
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My wife was complain8ng of this recently. I went through and saved all her pictures to her laptop. Cleared caches and moved apps to sd when I could but that did not help. Then I checked her download folder and found it full of videos from perez hilton .com. lol
This made the phone show that it was almost empty.
My question is why does usb storage show 1.40gb of total space with 9gb of space filled with misc.? Why does the blaze seem to handle its memory so much different than the other galaxy s phones?
Does rooting fix this strange memory setup?
Thanks guys.
(Update)
Took one photo to make sure they were being saved to the external sdcard (16gb) and now the phone says that storage is full again. When I check in settings it shows 1.20gb of pictures when there is only one photo (not sure how big but i know it is not 1gb) and it is not even stored on the phones memory? Instagram will also moy work because it says there is no storage to even take a photo.
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in one phrase VOLDSTAB / JB SWAP
if your runnings stock ICS and or ICS ROM search for VOLDSWAP.zip and or if your running JB ROMS or you have a phone that runs JB truly with out having to rom if you on ICS flash through CWM if you don't know what that is dont waste your time if you do by all means you know what must be DONE!!! lol if you dont then google the phrase CLOCKWORK MOD RECOVERY ( then your phone type ie Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4g ) if your using JB and ROOTED ( YES BOTH OF THESE TAKE ROOT in order to be accomplushed ) if your on JB go into /system/etc/vold.fstab open with either Script Manager and or prefered editor of text choice and take the ( 0 ) on internal SD line ( ie dev mount blah blah sdcard0 change that to a
( 1 ) and then on external SD ie blah blah sdcard1 change the ( 1 ) to a ( 0 ) and reboot on the ICS just flash the voldswap.zip on the xda forum ( you will find it in the general section of the samsung blaze under thread title Internal / External Memory and go to page 2 give thanks to the dev who did that then procedd to download and then flash through CWM no need to wipe format etc blah blah but i take no cred for mentioned / said items and i damn sure dont take liability for burnt phones busted screens and just plain stupidity and also google is your FRIEND in hence of rooting rom's etc etc have a wonderful day
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if your runnings stock ICS and or ICS ROM search for VOLDSWAP.zip and or if your running JB ROMS or you have a phone that runs JB truly with out having to rom if you on ICS flash through CWM if you don't know what that is dont waste your time if you do by all means you know what must be DONE!!! lol if you dont then google the phrase CLOCKWORK MOD RECOVERY ( then your phone type ie Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4g ) if your using JB and ROOTED ( YES BOTH OF THESE TAKE ROOT in order to be accomplushed ) if your on JB go into /system/etc/vold.fstab open with either Script Manager and or prefered editor of text choice and take the ( 0 ) on internal SD line ( ie dev mount blah blah sdcard0 change that to a
( 1 ) and then on external SD ie blah blah sdcard1 change the ( 1 ) to a ( 0 ) and reboot on the ICS just flash the voldswap.zip on the xda forum ( you will find it in the general section of the samsung blaze under thread title Internal / External Memory and go to page 2 give thanks to the dev who did that then procedd to download and then flash through CWM no need to wipe format etc blah blah but i take no cred for mentioned / said items and i damn sure dont take liability for burnt phones busted screens and just plain stupidity and also google is your FRIEND in hence of rooting rom's etc etc have a wonderful day
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For clarity's sake, what is this going to accomplish? I'm running cm10 and can usually manage to keep the blazes memory problems under control just by keeping everything in cloud storage, but if there's another option, I'd be interested in trying it out.
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Wow, so after translating what you said back to english I need root for that option and what it does is swsp the external sd for the internal by flashing a zip or editing the fstab file.
I will have to convince my wife of that one. She does not let me root her devices. She needs them to work 100% of the time for work and she saw what I went through with the s2 trying to get JB to run early on.
I will do some more research on this.
Is this something that only happens to some blazes or do all of them have storage issues? My wife was hoping a factory wipe might fix it.
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Wow, so after translating what you said back to english I need root for that option and what it does is swsp the external sd for the internal by flashing a zip or editing the fstab file.
I will have to convince my wife of that one. She does not let me root her devices. She needs them to work 100% of the time for work and she saw what I went through with the s2 trying to get JB to run early on.
I will do some more research on this.
Is this something that only happens to some blazes or do all of them have storage issues? My wife was hoping a factory wipe might fix it.
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to answer your ? on what it does the blaze stock comes with 4 gigs of memory 2 gigs used by system leaving about 1.12 for device mem and 1.40 for internal mem with the vold.fstab swap ( voldswap.zip ) or the number swap of JB ( ie INT SDCARD 0 change to 1 and EXT SDCARD 1 change to 0 what that does is for example instead of 1.40 gigs of internal space in my personal blaze i have 32 GIGS of space instead of crappy 1.4 works the same on JB ROMS but also if you choose to add files either connect USB into USB CONNECTION or POWER DOWN phone to be on the safe side power down the phone pull the sdcard from the micro sd slot and put into adapter on your PC ( i do this cause i transfer large files and on JB the MTP is a peice of **** and the USB CONNECTION sucks to it stops all of a sudden out of no were ) ( on ICS stock/custom that's not an issue ) but that's what the swap does hope this helps for clarity and you can pick up a 32 GIG San Disk off EBAY fpr 16.98 plus S/H at like 3 bucks a pop and it works cause i have that same card off of ebay
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to answer your ? on what it does the blaze stock comes with 4 gigs of memory 2 gigs used by system leaving about 1.12 for device mem and 1.40 for internal mem with the vold.fstab swap ( voldswap.zip ) or the number swap of JB ( ie INT SDCARD 0 change to 1 and EXT SDCARD 1 change to 0 what that does is for example instead of 1.40 gigs of internal space in my personal blaze i have 32 GIGS of space instead of crappy 1.4 works the same on JB ROMS but also if you choose to add files either connect USB into USB CONNECTION or POWER DOWN phone to be on the safe side power down the phone pull the sdcard from the micro sd slot and put into adapter on your PC ( i do this cause i transfer large files and on JB the MTP is a peice of **** and the USB CONNECTION sucks to it stops all of a sudden out of no were ) ( on ICS stock/custom that's not an issue ) but that's what the swap does hope this helps for clarity and you can pick up a 32 GIG San Disk off EBAY fpr 16.98 plus S/H at like 3 bucks a pop and it works cause i have that same card off of ebay
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That is awesome three hours of reading this that and the other thing all over the internet and it comes down to swapping two numbers in a file, sheash in an idiot.
The reason I wanted to do this is I have an app that downloads two to five GB of map files and the app just cried when I tried to install it on this phone.
Thank You.
Just an FYI, even though I am using a JBCamera app to store actual photos on my external 32gb uSD card, my internal 1.4gb SDcard was still getting full frequently. Discovered the Quickpic App, creates a large almost 1gb thumbnail file on the internal SDcard. There is an option to turn it off to make this go away in Quickpic.
OK, I am having storage/space issues with my Blaze that are making the cameras inoperable (I keep getting a message stating there's a lack of memory or space on the SD card). I am running CM10 Stable on Android 4.1.2 with the CM kernel.
When I go into Settings and look at the Storage, here's what it says (I tried taking Screenshots but they didn't work):
Total Space= 1.12GB
814MB of Apps
252MB Available
Internal Storage= 1.4GB
208MB Apps
553MB Pics/Videos
4.78MB Downloads
SD Card= 3.69MB Total Space
1.99GB Available
Here's the thing: I have NO pics/videos, yet somehow 553 MB are being used for this. So what's the deal? Can someone give me the quickie/noob explanation? Or at least explain what's the best way to control your storage on the Blaze (and yes, I've used Search but haven't really found what I was looking for)? I would really appreciate it, this is a very annoying and frustrating issue.
Thanks!
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OK, I am having storage/space issues with my Blaze that are making the cameras inoperable (I keep getting a message stating there's a lack of memory or space on the SD card). I am running CM10 Stable on Android 4.1.2 with the CM kernel.
When I go into Settings and look at the Storage, here's what it says (I tried taking Screenshots but they didn't work):
Total Space= 1.12GB
814MB of Apps
252MB Available
Internal Storage= 1.4GB
208MB Apps
553MB Pics/Videos
4.78MB Downloads
SD Card= 3.69MB Total Space
1.99GB Available
Here's the thing: I have NO pics/videos, yet somehow 553 MB are being used for this. So what's the deal? Can someone give me the quickie/noob explanation? Or at least explain what's the best way to control your storage on the Blaze (and yes, I've used Search but haven't really found what I was looking for)? I would really appreciate it, this is a very annoying and frustrating issue.
Thanks!
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i think you never cleaned up ur cache and over time lots of crap got accumulated hogging up all your space...also u need to look into your thumbnails as they tend to stay over time even if you move the actual photo...all you need to do is to backup your apps and their data n then boot in recovery mode and do a factory reset and then boot and go to any file manager and move whatever pics and vids you have on internal storage(by change if u have any) to external storage and delete the DCIM folder then...if even that doesnot let you do anything i think you are in need to format your system, cache, data and dalvik and flash the rom u use fresh and start over...you will be good as new then for sure even if it takes lil more time to set up things as u want again but thats better than being frustated and not able to do anything...hope that helps you
Check the ".thumbnails" directory under DCIM (or camera, I forget). My daughter's blaze seems to like accumulating 100+MB files I'm there.
Definitely check app cache too. The Cheeseburger Network app was pulling 500MB of cache on my S2.
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I was traveling but I read your recommendations and deleted a ton of files under DCIM folder. That seems to have fixed the issue for now, thanks so much. But I do need to re-flash the ROM anyway due to another issue so that will help.
Thanks! :good: