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wouldnt it be good idea to make a sticky about the fact that titanium backup causes more problems than its good for,most of the posts i have read about probs have one thing in common they all tried to restore a titanium back up now this wont work and that fc's or it just wont stop rebooting, factory reset and flash seems to always work and if ya.want a different kernel let it boot one time then install the kernel,naturally after you wiped cache and delvik again. those two ways always seem to work
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Never, ever restore system data. I bet if everyone that had a problem only hit "restore missing user apps" there wouldn't be a problem.
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Titanium backup rarely causes problems unless you restore system apps. Tibu is one of the most useful apps in the market, I would never discourage anyone from using it. It's especially helpful to have backups of an app that gets updated & then you find out the update breaks something or removes a good feature.
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Keep tb, lose rom manager
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restore missing apps and app data ONLY...never had a single problem the only system data i restore is the HTC desktop so i don't have to reconfigure my home screens...works like a charm

No problems here. You just have to be smart about what you restore. There is no "one click" method.

I think we are looking at user error ... but blame the software if you must.

As others have pointed out, I've never had an issue with Titanium Backup. Great software! Just do not restore system apps + data.

lynneddington said:
Keep tb, lose rom manager
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Ha, ditto.
Can we ditch rom manager or do you have to have it installed for CWR?

now if only there was something for unrooted phones to backup before they root so they could avoid that initial loss

patdroid1 said:
restore missing apps and app data ONLY...never had a single problem the only system data i restore is the HTC desktop so i don't have to reconfigure my home screens...works like a charm
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Lmao I literally almost said this exact post word for word in another thread.. even down to the works like a charm.
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I have had a problem with titanium backup, but it might be a setting. I restored using Titanium Backup from my Droid Incredible with no apparent issues to my 1st Thunderbolt. I did a backup w/ both Titanium and MybackupPro before swapping out my Thunderbolts. I always backup twice on my phones in case something goes wrong. Oh FYI it did go wrong before I returned the Thunderbolt I copied the MyBackup, but forgot the Titanium data. This is why i always double my efforts as I always forget something.
On my 2nd Thunderbolt I started to restore MyBackupPro data after unchecking everything that was a system app. I never looked into how to have MyBackupPro only copy user apps+data since I discovered Titanium. As soon as I went into Market Place multiple app updates downloaded.
For reasons that I am not sure why I decided to do it I did a hard reset to factory defaults. I copied my incredible data back over to the 2nd Thunderbolt and did a restore. None of the apps required updating from an older backup. I'm just wondering if something didn't restore correctly to market?

Powell730 said:
Lmao I literally almost said this exact post word for word in another thread.. even down to the works like a charm.
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Thats funny because I was just reading that thread thinking "where the hell did my post go"?

This may be a dumb question, but should you let apps download automatically after a wipe / new Rom install, and then have TB restore some apps with user data I need? Or is it better the skip the automatic download altogether and restore everything through TB? Thanks!
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I'm stock and rooted. Used ROM manager to install CWR, then Titanium Pro to uninstall ROM.
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The only issue I have had with titanium backup is that when I went to restore my apps and their data it did not seem to restore any of the data, just the apps. I was a little discouraged at first but then figured maybe the original location on my old droid X might have been different then where it is on the Thunderbolt. I doubt it but that's what I keep telling myself since the app data won't restore.

Recently had problems with restoring app data as well...hmmm... In my case it is probably user error.

Without Titanium Backup, I would not be as willing to try new ROMs. As with all things relating to rooting and flashing custom ROMs, you have to learn how to use the tools and understand their limitations.
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jrgalarza1 said:
Recently had problems with restoring app data as well...hmmm... In my case it is probably user error.
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I've had the same problem when moving to a GB-based ROM. So what is this "user error" that we're committing?

cowisland said:
This may be a dumb question, but should you let apps download automatically after a wipe / new Rom install, and then have TB restore some apps with user data I need? Or is it better the skip the automatic download altogether and restore everything through TB? Thanks!
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It's up to you really but that's how I do it. Just restore the data to apps that need that data and you can restore apps that didn't D/l from market and Ti will link them to the market so you'll still get updates.
I have no problem with TiBackup restoring data. When I move to GB ROMs (maybe that's just coincidence) Ti 'forgets' my settings so I have to setup my custom labels and scheduled backups again. I used to backup and restore texts (which is system data) but since switching between Froyo and Gingerbread ROMs I've gotten a separate app to do that if I want to take my SMS/MMS to my new ROM. Never backup/restore system data. I wish there was a way to exclude system data in TiBackup without also excluding uninstalled.

[Q] Seamless move to different ROM with help of Titanium (how to?)

OK, so i have one mod and now i want to migrate to another mod.
I have a paid Titanium backup app and i know how to restore apps and their data, but i have a few questions:
1. i have customized my Titanium by having filters and backup schedules, how do i transfer these things to new mod? Reinstalling this app will get these settings lost
2. on a new mod - destination mod, how do i properly restore all the apps? Do i set to recover missing apps and app data only?
3. is it possible to get all the widgets and shortcuts on screens like i had before?

Do you mean ROM not MOD?

Not using titanium, but an easy way to back up your apps, and restore them on a new rom
If you download ext4 recovery from the market.
Find it on your phone install recovery touch beta 8
Do a backup of your current rom, and then when you flash a new rom.
Go back to recovery, choose restore
advance restore
restore only data.
It will restore all your apps etc, but keep the new rom.

sromer said:
Do you mean ROM not MOD?
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YES sure
big_sw2000 said:
Not using titanium, but an easy way to back up your apps, and restore them on a new rom
If you download ext4 recovery from the market.
Find it on your phone install recovery touch beta 8
Do a backup of your current rom, and then when you flash a new rom.
Go back to recovery, choose restore
advance restore
restore only data.
It will restore all your apps etc, but keep the new rom.
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Thank you, but still, there should be some other way to do that, since i might not restore all the apps, but just some of them, and i really want to have Titanium installed with the custom settings i as already use

As I understand Titanium backs up its own settings to he sd card. At least that's what mine does, I don't remember if I had to enable that in the settings though
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ar4l said:
As I understand Titanium backs up its own settings to he sd card. At least that's what mine does, I don't remember if I had to enable that in the settings though
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Yeah, you have to enable it in the tb settings, otherwise it won't backup your tb settings.
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I wouldn't rely on Titanium specially if you have ICS. I would use nandroid or CWM backup and restore data. You will get your Titanium as is too. You can always delete unwanted apps but if you can't restore that a diffrent story.

big_sw2000 said:
Not using titanium, but an easy way to back up your apps, and restore them on a new rom
If you download ext4 recovery from the market.
Find it on your phone install recovery touch beta 8
Do a backup of your current rom, and then when you flash a new rom.
Go back to recovery, choose restore
advance restore
restore only data.
It will restore all your apps etc, but keep the new rom.
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will this also back/restore up text messages?

sykozylot said:
will this also back/restore up text messages?
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Im not 100%, but i think so

I'm not an expert but had done a few restore now after trying ics n goin back to gb. So with titanium, u do a restore missing apps n data...u can still deselect the app u don't want to restore
After that, u can restore some system data (in green) individually which includes ur txt msg, account info. Some can mess things up..like I restore the bookmark from gb to ics, n it crash in ics when opening bookmark
But others seems ok. To get all ur icons organized like b4, I restored the desktop one....these shld all b done just for the data if u r given a choice.
That's kinda my experience n it seems to b working ok now after I restore back to gb
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dadanepal said:
I wouldn't rely on Titanium specially if you have ICS. I would use nandroid or CWM backup and restore data. You will get your Titanium as is too. You can always delete unwanted apps but if you can't restore that a diffrent story.
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Anyone ever tried nandroid backup with gingerbread, then upgrading to ICS and then trying to restore the data partition?
I'm only asking because in this case (my case) most of the restored apps keep FC-ing. Everything else is restored perfectly - call lists, sms, mms, contacts list, favourite lists, backgrounds, sounds, ringtones... - you name it, it's there. So everything besides a lot of apps after restoring from nandroid works perfect even after upgrading from GB to ICS.
SO... any suggestions how to fix the apps FCs problem restoring from nandroid data partition? Thanx

Yes you can save titanium setting to ad card and it will restore by itself. Go to preference and tick first option auto synchronized TB setting. All done
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Unfortunately, i did that but it didn't work. I have the setting ticked, but i installed ICS 4.0.3 ROM and now i have a fresh Titanium Backup without any settings i had
jasminthoria said:
Yes you can save titanium setting to ad card and it will restore by itself. Go to preference and tick first option auto synchronized TB setting. All done
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camspy said:
OK, so i have one mod and now i want to migrate to another mod.
I have a paid Titanium backup app and i know how to restore apps and their data, but i have a few questions:
1. i have customized my Titanium by having filters and backup schedules, how do i transfer these things to new mod? Reinstalling this app will get these settings lost
2. on a new mod - destination mod, how do i properly restore all the apps? Do i set to recover missing apps and app data only?
3. is it possible to get all the widgets and shortcuts on screens like i had before?
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1. you could always use a secondary backup app like System Tuner Pro to backup your applications (particularly Titanium backup) then installing System Tuner Pro first then use it to Restore Titanium to the right working order.
2. I don't get this question.
3. Sadly, No
sykozylot said:
will this also back/restore up text messages?
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YES. it should be able to restore your messages.
jondalar said:
Anyone ever tried nandroid backup with gingerbread, then upgrading to ICS and then trying to restore the data partition?
I'm only asking because in this case (my case) most of the restored apps keep FC-ing. Everything else is restored perfectly - call lists, sms, mms, contacts list, favourite lists, backgrounds, sounds, ringtones... - you name it, it's there. So everything besides a lot of apps after restoring from nandroid works perfect even after upgrading from GB to ICS.
SO... any suggestions how to fix the apps FCs problem restoring from nandroid data partition? Thanx
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I don't think it is a good idea restoring GB data partition onto ICS. It is known to screw up the system/applications. Your applications need to be optimised so if you flashed it, the optimisation process may be skipped or cancelled out when you flash the data partition.

Has anyone tried the native backup option in 4.0.3?

I'm a noob looking to start flashing roms and kernels and generally screw with my stock NS running 4.0.3.
Looks like the first step is to do a backup so I don't lose my app data, etc. when I do the required wipe.
I realize I could use different methods/apps like Astro, etc. but I notice under system settings/backup & reset there's what looks like auto (cloud?) backup and restore options.
Wondering if anyone has tested this and can vouch for it (or not) as a functional backup solution?
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heccubusxda said:
I'm a noob looking to start flashing roms and kernels and generally screw with my stock NS running 4.0.3.
Looks like the first step is to do a backup so I don't lose my app data, etc. when I do the required wipe.
I realize I could use different methods/apps like Astro, etc. but I notice under system settings/backup & reset there's what looks like auto (cloud?) backup and restore options.
Wondering if anyone has tested this and can vouch for it (or not) as a functional backup solution?
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I've been doing this since before ICS. What this refers to, really, is synching Google apps with their online counterparts (Contacts, Calendar, etc.) and storing settings for Google apps on Google servers. It won't help with any non-Google apps.

I can't upload a screenshot but there is an option-
"Back up my data: back up app data, wifi passwords and other settings to google servers"
And further down one that says: "Auto Restore: when reinstalling an app restore backed up settings and data"
So this is just referring to google's stuff and not to Market apps?
Thanks for your response btw.
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heccubusxda said:
I can't upload a screenshot but there is an option-
"Back up my data: back up app data, wifi passwords and other settings to google servers"
And further down one that says: "Auto Restore: when reinstalling an app restore backed up settings and data"
So this is just referring to google's stuff and not to Market apps?
Thanks for your response btw.
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In general it will restore your Android settings (wifi passwords, wallpaper, etc). And it will re-download all the market apps you had installed. But you will lose all the data and settings from the market apps.

heccubusxda said:
I'm a noob looking to start flashing roms and kernels and generally screw with my stock NS running 4.0.3.
Looks like the first step is to do a backup so I don't lose my app data, etc. when I do the required wipe.
I realize I could use different methods/apps like Astro, etc. but I notice under system settings/backup & reset there's what looks like auto (cloud?) backup and restore options.
Wondering if anyone has tested this and can vouch for it (or not) as a functional backup solution?
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I'd say it's not very functional. Like Bozzy said it won't restore your app settings. It will redownload all your apps but you'll usually find that to be more of an annoyance than anything. I'd recommend investing in Titanium Backup. Or if you're strapped for funds you can download MyBackup Root for free but Titanium Backup is well worth every penny. When I rooted my wife's phone I actually bought Titanium again even though I could've used my license key because it's such an awesome app.

I have Ti Backup downloaded and ready to go but that app requires root.
I guess I'll go with Astro, back up to SD card, and transfer to pc via USB.
If I'm understanding things correctly?
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heccubusxda said:
I have Ti Backup downloaded and ready to go but that app requires root.
I guess I'll go with Astro, back up to SD card, and transfer to pc via USB.
If I'm understanding things correctly?
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I should clarify. Without root you won't be able to backup app data. Titanium will be your best friend once you are rooted but prior you'll just be able backup the .apks, saving you from having to redownload them. So, yes you are on the right track with Astro.

Just to update.
Digging in the forums here I found a method of getting root without wiping my phone.
I was able to root my phone by running a batch file on my PC- doesn't touch the bootloader. Used titanium to back everything up before I start flashing.
Very cool.
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Titanium Backup

Quick question. There have been times where I've read that it's not good to restore stuff from Titanium Backup when flashing a new rom but is it on to just restore the apps without data? I think that's essentially the same as just downloading then from the market right?
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SkizzMcNizz said:
Quick question. There have been times where I've read that it's not good to restore stuff from Titanium Backup when flashing a new rom but is it on to just restore the apps without data? I think that's essentially the same as just downloading then from the market right?
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At the batch menu you can restore missing apps with data. You just don't want to restore any system data.

rquinn19 said:
At the batch menu you can restore missing apps with data. You just don't want to restore any system data.
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Ok thanks. I thought the app data as a problem also.
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rquinn19 said:
At the batch menu you can restore missing apps with data. You just don't want to restore any system data.
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I always restored my missing apps without data in the past (didn't restore any system) just to be on the safe side, but that's good to know that restoring data works fine for user apps.

Chrysis said:
I always restored my missing apps without data in the past (didn't restore any system) just to be on the safe side, but that's good to know that restoring data works fine for user apps.
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Wanted to know what you did is it applicable if you are upgrading your rom from gingerbread to ics?
And i also did that but was always on gingerbread

I used titanium backup when for the first time to backup all my apps + app data and restore it after installing a new rom. It didn't work. It took forever to install the apps because I didn't pay for the premium version, and after it did install it didn't actually transfer the app data properly for most of my apps. My save games were lost and most apps didn't log me in from the save data.
So i downloaded Go Backup, which is much simpler to use and always works. Backsup all apps you want, and restores them in the same way titanium pro does, all at once without you having to accept each app. And the difference is my game saves and app accounts were auto logged in the first time I opened them. I would say Go Backup is a much better solution if all you need to do is backup apps + app data. Don't waste your time with titanium (and it's crappy UI).

sad6549775 said:
Wanted to know what you did is it applicable if you are upgrading your rom from gingerbread to ics?
And i also did that but was always on gingerbread
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Not entirely sure about that. I'd imagine so, but haven't had personal experience with such.

[Q] After the ROM Burn

I am fairly new to this but did burn the Synergy ROM to my Verizon Galaxy S3. Very nice but:
After wiping out everything (Dalvick/Factory Reset, etc.) what is the best method to get back to where I was.
I have a full Titanium backup but I am sure that I do not want it to restore everything since some things are from the VRALHE version and the new Synergy ROM is from the lastest VRBLK3 (v4.1.1) ROM.
So what is the best method to get all my programs and settings for them back into the phone? Anyone?

You can use TB for all downloaded apps. I wouldn't use it to back up system apps as it causes problems when used if different roms. I would buy mybackup pro. It will let you backup contacts sms mms phone logs dictionary and a few others. Between those 2 backups the only thing you'll have to "setup" would be your home screens if your not using nova or apex. I use apex which let's me backup my screens so I can flash a new rom and within 20 min my phone will look as it did before the new flash minus any new features the rom might have
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Jarredw said:
You can use TB for all downloaded apps. I wouldn't use it to back up system apps as it causes problems when used if different roms. I would buy mybackup pro. It will let you backup contacts sms mms phone logs dictionary and a few others. Between those 2 backups the only thing you'll have to "setup" would be your home screens if your not using nova or apex. I use apex which let's me backup my screens so I can flash a new rom and within 20 min my phone will look as it did before the new flash minus any new features the rom might have
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As much as some people are changing ROMs I wondered about this. I went through TB and turned off the restore on all the system apps. Quite a pain. So now I will stop it from backing up the system apps in the first place. I am using GO and it allows me to backup the screens.
Was hoping there was some magically quick method that did it all. Guess 20 mins is best.
Thanks for the answer.

Skubacb said:
As much as some people are changing ROMs I wondered about this. I went through TB and turned off the restore on all the system apps. Quite a pain. So now I will stop it from backing up the system apps in the first place. I am using GO and it allows me to backup the screens.
Was hoping there was some magically quick method that did it all. Guess 20 mins is best.
Thanks for the answer.
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Can backup and restore all data and system apps + data. Do not restore system data. That is different from system app data.. Do not use the option to restore system data. Data to any app is fine whether it be data or system app. There is no difference between system and data apps except that system apps are not as easily deleted. All roms have the same basic system apps. If you want an app to stay in rom regardless of data reset you move it to system. Apps in system are not removed by a data reset.

prdog1 said:
Can backup and restore all data and system apps + data. Do not restore system data. That is different from system app data.. Do not use the option to restore system data. Data to any app is fine whether it be data or system app. There is no difference between system and data apps except that system apps are not as easily deleted. All roms have the same basic system apps. If you want an app to stay in rom regardless of data reset you move it to system. Apps in system are not removed by a data reset.
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Thanks for the help. I turned off backing up system apps. When doing this I noticed that TB can make a zip file of the backup. That should be sweet. Couldn't we have ROM Manager burn the ROM and then install the TB zip.
If the above would work this could make life much easier since I would not then have to install TB find the backup and then install it. Everything would already be reinstalled.