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I've checked every possible tag in my mind about this and couldn't find one for Sensation.
Is it possible to revet back to the original state before the Revolutionary. Is it possible to completely uninstall the Revolutionary from my phone?
I'm not talking about the s-off -> s-on
I'm talking about returning the phones software to its original state.
Like it is never installed in the first place.
Thank you.
It's funny because last weekend I wanted to do exactly the same thing.
What I learnt was to go from S-OFF back to S-ON can be quite fiddly and tricky, abd if you mess it up rub the risk of bricking your phone.
In order to get the stock Rom, here is the link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1074559
Now it's just a case of finding which one you are, and your ril and radio.
Good luck
Thank you for your answer. But this is not what I want I can do this already but when I check the bootloader I see the pink "Locked" and it tells me that Revolutionary is still there.
I can go to S-On without any trouble that is not what I am asking.
What I am asking is to be able to get rid of every little bit of coding about the Revolutionary and return my phone to its original bootloader software.
If is says locked then ur good since that's what it said when you bought the phone.
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If is says locked then ur good since that's what it said when you bought the phone.
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When I get my phone there wasn't such writing. It is the product of Revolutionary.
So it is still there. I want to be able to get rid of it.
I'm not asking this about the warranty purposes. I'm asking this because I've realized that after using Revolutionary I can't install any app from market via wireless no matter what I did. Strangely it is fine to surf and download via mobile.
I know this because this is the Second Sensation I've faced having this problem and I remember some user Leviathan(maybe wrong?) talking about wifi dieing after Revolutionary.
So what I need is to get rid of it and be able to install original bootloader(maybe bootloader is not the right term here I don't know).
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When I get my phone there wasn't such writing. It is the product of Revolutionary.
So it is still there. I want to be able to get rid of it.
I'm not asking this about the warranty purposes. I'm asking this because I've realized that after using Revolutionary I can't install any app from market via wireless no matter what I did. Strangely it is fine to surf and download via mobile.
I know this because this is the Second Sensation I've faced having this problem and I remember some user Leviathan(maybe wrong?) talking about wifi dieing after Revolutionary.
So what I need is to get rid of it and be able to install original bootloader(maybe bootloader is not the right term here I don't know).
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flash stock hboot, should come with a ruu file, but you can always check if you extract rom.zip from the ruu.exe.
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I've tried installing stock roms over it no luck untill now.
webmanya said:
I've tried installing stock roms over it no luck untill now.
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i am saying that you probably have a modified hboot, because of the revolutionary sOFF, just like alpharev. you need to flash stock hboot to get everything back, hboot flashing is dangerous, if it goes wrong youll have a brick.
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and stock hboots are found in ruus.
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and stock hboots are found in ruus.
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Thank you for your answer. I understand what do you mean. But I'm not sure if it will help because while flashing stock rom it also updates hboot.
Hi all, got my phone back from repair, with the latest orange crap and newest hboot. Ive read that I need to use Juopunutbear, to the s-off, root etc, but I dont like the look of Juopunutbear, (using wire? no chance_. I found the old revolution way much safer and easy to do. How can i still do it like that? Would i need to flash the old orange ruu on the sdcard?
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Hi all, got my phone back from repair, with the latest orange crap and newest hboot. Ive read that I need to use Juopunutbear, to the s-off, root etc, but I dont like the look of Juopunutbear. I found the old revolution way much safer and easy to do. How can i still do it like that? Would i need to flash the old orange ruu on the sdcard?
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You can't run older ruu when SON
To have custom rom's you need to do SOFF via Juopunutbear way or htc dev unlock
The later might not work for you.. As you might got motherboard replaced..
So only solution is JB via temproot
Link in my signature
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My repair was only for dust under the screen. so i have the choice of voiding warranty via a piece of wire (visual void), or I virtually tell htc im voiding it? There must be a sneakier way?
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so i have the choice of voiding warranty via a piece of wire (visual void), or I virtually tell htc im voiding it? There must be a sneakier way?
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I believe you do know that.. To turn back SON.. Just one command will do... So it literally means the process is reversible
And I'm afraid that there is no other way to use root/custom rom
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I dont actually mean using the exe, i mean pulling the pg file out and putting it on the sd, then it would let me flash back to gingerbread in the bootloader?
I see what you mean about not being able to go backwards. Im stuck now as the dev unlock is no use and I do not have the steady hand to do the wire trick
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I see what you mean about not being able to go backwards. Im stuck now as the dev unlock is no use and I do not have the steady hand to do the wire trick
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You can still flash ROMs while S On.
Its just that I found everything easier with s-off, rooted and supercid
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Its just that I found everything easier with s-off, rooted and supercid
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yes with SOFF ..everything is easy ..but sadly the JB method is the only way for you
Anyone working on a way to do it without the wire?
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Anyone working on a way to do it without the wire?
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idk and i dont think there's gonna be another SOFF process..as now ppl are concentrating on SOFF for ONE series
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Anyone working on a way to do it without the wire?
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I highly doubt it. If you're uncomfortable, you should stick with stock. It's always wise to not do it if you aren't sure of it..
If I had steady hands it wouldnt be a problem, Im a flashaholic, hate stock lol x
Maybe if you read over it a few times you might get a bit more comfortable with it? What I do is even print out the guide so I don't miss a step.this has really helped me in the past when doing new things, I know it may sound silly but its nice to have a printed guide infront of you incase you get in a pinch. This way all the steps are right there in front of you. This is what I do. Just a suggestion. If you DO decide to give it a shot then maybe this might help. I wish you the best in which ever you decide. I just wanted to share this with you because having a printed guide has really helped me out in the past. Good luck and best wishes to you!
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Well I decided to give it a go, downloaded everything printed of instructions etc. Ran the temp root file, then it said now run the bear, but after bear connected to my phone it says not rooted? Now I'm stuck.
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Well I decided to give it a go, downloaded everything printed of instructions etc. Ran the temp root file, then it said now run the bear, but after bear connected to my phone it says not rooted? Now I'm stuck.
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not properly rooted ..it seems..
did you got any errors when temp root was run...also make sure htc sync is uninstalled(have the drivers installed too) and the phone should be kept in htc sync mode ...also no hubs or usb 3.0 ports
Thanks for the help, it worked sort of. I completed the s off I said yes to modified hboot, then removed temp root. Then applied root. Problem is the hboot still shows as the normal but with s off and when I try to install recovery it says wrong cid. Nearly there
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Thanks for the help, it worked sort of. I completed the s off I said yes to modified hboot, then removed temp root. Then applied root. Problem is the hboot still shows as the normal but with s off and when I try to install recovery it says wrong cid. Nearly there
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what nearly there ...you are done lol..
just do a supercid
(first note down the actual cid though..just in case ...fastboot getvar cid ..to know cid)
fastboot oem writecid 11111111
EDIT: ohh the hboot is still locked huh ..
then get the pyramic ics one from here http://unlimited.io/hboot-downloads/
and flash it (instructions in the same link)
also after those instructions..to get back to bootloader..the command is "fastboot reboot-bootloader" without quotes
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Thanks for the help, it worked sort of. I completed the s off I said yes to modified hboot, then removed temp root. Then applied root. Problem is the hboot still shows as the normal but with s off and when I try to install recovery it says wrong cid. Nearly there
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If your Hboot still says *locked* you cannot flash a recovery.
Please get the correct Hboot from here & follow flashing instructions: http://unlimited.io/hboot-downloads/
You can then proceed to flashing recovery.
Right done that even though the green line never goes to the end my hboot no longer says locked. I put the recovery zip on the sd, booted into bootloader said yes, completed and rebooted, but no custom recovery there?
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Essentially, I have been stuck in some sort of loop. Here's my problem:
For about six months I had been using my phone with stock HTC rom, S-ON, locked as usual. After about three months, I started using Airdroid for all my media transfers etc. So after about six months I decided to start flashing custom ROMs from here. But before I started doing it, I noticed that my phone was not detecting USB and simply charging when connected to my laptop (essentially i have no idea when my usb stopped working, but it was pre-rom flashing period). However, fastboot USB worked perfectly and so I realised that it was a classical USB Brick situation. Tried the USB fix solutions for S-ON devices but they simply wouldn't work (worked randomly but reappeared).
USB and ADB work perfectly on the Andromadus rom, but they don't work on stock roms. So I am able to downgrade to a hboot 0.98 and to a previous stock rom, but I am unable to use revolutionary since ADB does not work on that rom. Essentially, I am unable to S-OFF. And with that I am unable to try the simple USB Brick solution for S-OFF devices.
USB Brick -> Can't use ADB -> Can't S-OFF -> Can't try USB Brick solution.
I hope I am not missing something (sorry for the long post).
If I understand your situation, you were able to downgrade your hboot. You were also able to unlock it, flash andromadus and verify that you could use adb.
I haven't followed the S-OFF path yet, but, now that your hboot is v0.98.*, why don't you unlock it (if not done yet), find and flash a GB custom ROM with which adb would work, and then S-OFF from this ROM ?
Correct me if I am wrong, but revolutionary needs a v0.98.* hboot but I haven't read that one needs to be on stock ROM in order to S-OFF by revolutionary.
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If I understand your situation, you were able to downgrade your hboot. You were also able to unlock it, flash andromadus and verify that you could use adb.
I haven't followed the S-OFF path yet, but, now that your hboot is v0.98.*, why don't you unlock it (if not done yet), find and flash a GB custom ROM with which adb would work, and then S-OFF from this ROM ?
Correct me if I am wrong, but revolutionary needs a v0.98.* hboot but I haven't read that one needs to be on stock ROM in order to S-OFF by revolutionary.
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Thanks for the reply! I tried unlocking 0.98.* but it would'nt unlock like it does in hboot 2.x. I don't think the htc unlock thing works in hboot 0.98. Or else I would surely have installed another rooted rom.
That's a shame you can't unlock the hboot. It was worth trying anyway. The. Only other alternative I can think of is using an XTC Clip. Read http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1076937 for more info.
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I dont think I can get an XTC clip.
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I dont think I can get an XTC clip.
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Why not?
http://www.fonefunshop.co.uk/Unlocking/xtc_clip.htm
One more question that I should have asked before : are you sure that your issue is not related to your laptop ? Did you try to connect your DS to another PC ?
Edit: we know that it is not an hardware issue because your DS and laptop can communicate in fastboot, and in adb with a custom ROM. There may be a software that gets in the way when your DS is on a stock ROM. I'm not sure that stock and custom ROMs advertise themselves with the same vendor id and device id. If not, it could be the reason why it works with a custom ROM and not with a stock one.
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So i was doing the s-off juopunut bear and im unnable to got it to work, so i want to use my phone on the stock tmo i was using but i dont know how cause now im stuck on the juopunutBear black screen with the green letters and arrow and the phone. If i put something on the sdcard it doesnt do anything, if i go to the recovery all i got si errors when i want to flash something and if i do a wipe data or something else its like im doing nothing. What can i do to fix this? and go back to use my phone? please guys help me with this!!! I need my phone back
Is there anything i can do?
Cause believe me im trying and trying to make the wire trick and all i got is S-OFF Failed and it has been like three hours since im trying to make it work.
Please someone who can help me with this problem? how can i go back to stock?
remove the battery and insert it again. plug it to the pc and run the s-off program again or do a reset in bootloader.
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remove the battery and insert it again. plug it to the pc and run the s-off program again or do a reset in bootloader.
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Ive been doing that since 6:30 and nothing all i got is S-OFF Failed
If you don't succeed, try, try, and try again...
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search sensation s-off wire trick on youtube.follow the video to do the wire trick.
thats how i s-off my phone successfully
i only tried 3 times
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This is incredible i need to laugh for real, it was the way i was putting the wire on the sdcard slot -____- jajajajajaa but thanks guys now my phone is working just fine =) now i have the bootloader unlock and the s-off, now what is the next step? i want to flash a rom, one with great battery life, stable, smooth and fast!! any advice?
Check this out: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=37121632
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I am currently stuck in the bootloader. To make matters worse, I relocked to RUU and am stuck at Sending with that. I am Super CID which I think is the problem. To make matters even worse, I no longer have my unlock_code.bin file.
Is there any hope for my phone? Also, the RUU process has completely wiped my phone. Thanks for any input in advance. I have searched and searched for an answer but haven't found anything useful.
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You haven't given enough information, what are you trying to do? You could just unlock your bootloader again.
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You haven't given enough information, what are you trying to do? You could just unlock your bootloader again.
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How can I unlock my bootloader without the unlock_code.bin file? Update. I reverted back to original CID CWS__001 and am going to try and run the RUU again.
I tried to s-off my wife's phone and it screwed it up somehow (rather I screwed it up). I simply wanted to take it back to stock to start fresh and now I am stuck in the bootloader with no Rom and a locked phone.
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How can I unlock my bootloader without the unlock_code.bin file? Update. I reverted back to original CID CWS__001 and am going to try and run the RUU again.
I tried to s-off my wife's phone and it screwed it up somehow (rather I screwed it up). I simply wanted to take it back to stock to start fresh and now I am stuck in the bootloader with no Rom and a locked phone.
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You would just go to htcdev like you did in the first place and go through the unlock process again. But, you can't do that now because you just changed the CID back to CWS__001 which is blocked by htcdev. And I'm guessing you didn't succeed in getting s-off? If so, you've just used the one and only time you can change the CID without s-off to change it to a CID which is blocked, which means you have no way to unlock the bootloader again, ever. I hope your original plan was to stay stock because that's your only option now. Maybe that's for the best though, you seem to be doing things without fully comprehending what you're doing or the potential catastrophic results.
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You would just go to htcdev like you did in the first place and go through the unlock process again. But, you can't do that now because you just changed the CID back to CWS__001 which is blocked by htcdev. And I'm guessing you didn't succeed in getting s-off? If so, you've just used the one and only time you can change the CID without s-off to change it to a CID which is blocked, which means you have no way to unlock the bootloader again, ever. I hope your original plan was to stay stock because that's your only option now. Maybe that's for the best though, you seem to be doing things without fully comprehending what you're doing or the potential catastrophic results.
Thanks for your input. I appreciate it. Can I at least ruu the 3.18 now and get back to stock... That's better than bootloader I suppose. By the way, how could I have unlocked in the state I was in?
Ruu is stuck at sending for some time now.
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timmaaa said:
You would just go to htcdev like you did in the first place and go through the unlock process again. But, you can't do that now because you just changed the CID back to CWS__001 which is blocked by htcdev. And I'm guessing you didn't succeed in getting s-off? If so, you've just used the one and only time you can change the CID without s-off to change it to a CID which is blocked, which means you have no way to unlock the bootloader again, ever. I hope your original plan was to stay stock because that's your only option now. Maybe that's for the best though, you seem to be doing things without fully comprehending what you're doing or the potential catastrophic results.
Thanks for your input. I appreciate it. Can I at least ruu the 3.18 now and get back to stock... That's better than bootloader I suppose. By the way, how could I have unlocked in the state I was in?
Ruu is stuck at sending for some time now.
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If you have a locked bootloader and the correct CID there should be no harm in running the RUU. The unlock process (from memory, I could be wrong) doesn't require the phone to be booted into an os, it's all taken care of while the phone is in bootloader. That's kinda irrelevant now anyway as it isn't possible anymore.
Are you using the usb cable that came with the phone? You can try using a different usb port, usually the ones on the back of the pc tower are the best.
May I ask, how exactly do you think the s-off process screwed up the phone? It either succeeds or fails, and there should be no serious repercussions from either.
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Ever since I ran the s off process I couldn't copy anything to the sd card, I.e. to flash a new Rom. I feel like an idiot for changing the cid back now. I ran the zip for s off and I waited an hour or so and it never went throufh
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Ever since I ran the s off process I couldn't copy anything to the sd card, I.e. to flash a new Rom. I feel like an idiot for changing the cid back now. I ran the zip for s off and I waited an hour or so and it never went throufh
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It sounds to me like you might have actually done a factory reset from bootloader which corrupts the sd card. The s-off process has no ability to change the sd card. Did you have HTC drivers and adb/fastboot all installed when you tried the s-off process? That's probably why it didn't work.
The corrupted sd card might be why the RUU won't work, can you still get into TWRP recovery? If so, you can use the mount menu to mount it to your pc and format it. If not, you might seriously be in trouble. The combination of these things you've done have possibly rendered the device completely useless. If this if the case, I hope this has been a learning experience. It's really important to have a firm understanding of what you're doing (and the results and potential risks) when modifying your device. It looks like you've rushed into all this without understanding it all properly.
In any case, let me know about what I asked about above and I'll do my best to see if there's a way out of this.
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It sounds to me like you might have actually done a factory reset from bootloader which corrupts the sd card. The s-off process has no ability to change the sd card. Did you have HTC drivers and adb/fastboot all installed when you tried the s-off process? That's probably why it didn't work.
The corrupted sd card might be why the RUU won't work, can you still get into TWRP recovery? If so, you can use the mount menu to mount it to your pc and format it. If not, you might seriously be in trouble. The combination of these things you've done have possibly rendered the device completely useless. If this if the case, I hope this has been a learning experience. It's really important to have a firm understanding of what you're doing (and the results and potential risks) when modifying your device. It looks like you've rushed into all this without understanding it all properly.
In any case, let me know about what I asked about above and I'll do my best to see if there's a way out of this.
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Took your advice about the usb port. Switched it to the back and the ruu worked. Will I be able to run the root exploit again? Yes, this definitely has been a learning experience. Coupled with my lack of sleep and overall frustration I made some bad moves. Thanks for your patience and help though. Much appreciated.
And no, I could not get back into recovery after I relocked it. It would send me right back to the bootloader. Also, I did do a factory reset from the bootloader. Believe me, taking mental notes all the way here.
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Now that you have a working os, you could be able to use the exploit again to unlock the bootloader etc. Just take it slowly though, do some reading so you gain a bit of knowledge. And if you have any questions, don't be afraid to ask.
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Unlocked and rooted. Again. Thanks for your help. Leary of trying to s off again though
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Very glad to see you got it all working again. S-off might seem daunting now, but it's a pretty straight forward process as long as you follow the instructions exactly.
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Very glad to see you got it all working again. S-off might seem daunting now, but it's a pretty straight forward process as long as you follow the instructions exactly.
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Yes, I have done it before, on my One X. Not quite sure what went wrong. Maybe the issue with my wife's phone was preexisting and reared it's ugly head in the process. I have been rooting and nodding phones for years. I am not a complete noob. I am experienced in java programming and have created many interesting applications for my phone. Perhaps I should take my java knowledge and automate my s off experience.
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If you're looking for an automated method, I saw this just before. It's brand new but it looks to have some great tools incorporated. I prefer the manual method myself but many people will love this.
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timmaaa said:
If you're looking for an automated method, I saw this just before. It's brand new but it looks to have some great tools incorporated. I prefer the manual method myself but many people will love this.
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Very nice found Tim.....:thumbup:
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timmaaa said:
If you're looking for an automated method, I saw this just before. It's brand new but it looks to have some great tools incorporated. I prefer the manual method myself but many people will love this.
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Appreciate it. I don't mind working from the command line either. Could my trouble have had anything to do with being plugged into the front of the cpu, for s off that is? Was getting stuck at sending with the flash zip command.
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Appreciate it. I don't mind working from the command line either. Could my trouble have had anything to do with being plugged into the front of the cpu, for s off that is? Was getting stuck at sending with the flash zip command.
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Yeah that was probably it, try again using the rear port and it'll probably be fine.
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Yeah that was probably it, try again using the rear port and it'll probably be fine.
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Just wanted to let you know that I went through s off and all went well. Only thing I can think was the problem was that either there was a pre existing corruption on the phone, or the usb port I was using.
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It could have been anything. It's becoming more and more apparent that different things halt the process for different users. It makes it really difficult to troubleshoot when helping someone through the process. In the end you got it though which is great.
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