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On TMo, what phone is the next best thing?

I have 90 days to return my phone at Costco so I'm wondering what the next best phone will be and will it be out within my 90 day window?

You can wait for the G2X to come in stock at which point hopefully all of its issues will be resolved. As for almost 90 days from now..I'm sure you'll have more options.

wrek said:
I have 90 days to return my phone at Costco so I'm wondering what the next best phone will be and will it be out within my 90 day window?
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I'd get as close to the 90 days as possible and get a Hercules personally.

If ya can wait till the end of summer, the Hercules will be the most powerful, feature rich device TMo will release in 2011(most likely). That's if all goes well with production. You also need to like holding tablet to your face.... It's a 4.5" beast. Good thing about the Hercules is that it is reported to have AT&T radios, so you'd covered when TMo get swallowed up.
Keep in mind though, pretty much every early review of the Sensation 4G said it was compatible with At&T...only later to be dismissed as false.
Only bad thing, imo, is that's it's made by Sammy. They use way too much plastic in their cell phones for my personal taste. I've never held a Samsung phone that felt like high quality in hand. That will still not prevent me from checking it out and possible making the purchase. AMOLED is nice but for me is too colorized.
I like big screens, but one would think 4.5" or maybe 4.7" will eventually be the acceptable limit for cell phones...but who knows...It'll probably hit 5" eventually. If it has a 16:9 aspect ratio like the Sensation, then it won't be too wide at least.

Hoggles said:
If ya can wait till the end of summer, the Hercules will be the most powerful, feature rich device TMo will release in 2011(most likely). That's if all goes well with production. You also need to like holding tablet to your face.... It's a 4.5" beast. Good thing about the Hercules is that it is reported to have AT&T radios, so you'd covered when TMo get swallowed up.
Keep in mind though, pretty much every early review of the Sensation 4G said it was compatible with At&T...only later to be dismissed as false.
Only bad thing, imo, is that's it's made by Sammy. They use way too much plastic in their cell phones for my personal taste. I've never held a Samsung phone that felt like high quality in hand. That will still not prevent me from checking it out and possible making the purchase. AMOLED is nice but for me is too colorized.
I like big screens, but one would think 4.5" or maybe 4.7" will eventually be the acceptable limit for cell phones...but who knows...It'll probably hit 5" eventually. If it has a 16:9 aspect ratio like the Sensation, then it won't be too wide at least.
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I'm assuming you've never held a Samsung Captivate. at&t's variant of the SGS was by far the best. I've never had a higher build-quality phone except my trusty Nokia 3390 Gold (the first AIM phone) that took a dive in a swimming pool and still worked when I pulled the battery out and let it dry for 5 days. Its all about how much the carrier is willing to invest in the making of the phone and how much they will actually subsidize. It's not Samsung's fault the carriers are cheap LOL

wrek said:
I have 90 days to return my phone at Costco so I'm wondering what the next best phone will be and will it be out within my 90 day window?
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Yup, your best bet would be the upcoming Hercules
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they lost me at 4.5" screen with only 480 x 800 resolution... S AMOLED + screen or not.
Samsung needs to bump that up.
rest of the specs look good.

I do not have the sensation quite yet but I have had quite a few phones including the Verizon variant of the SGS. I said I would never buy another samsung device because of extremely slow upgrades and lack of developer support for the Samsung devices.
That being said it seems that has completely changed. Samsung is moving fast to catch up with upgrades and since HTC is locking bootloaders developers are moving to the platforms that are more open.
So if i was to give my opinions. HTC has been my favorite manufacturer for quite sometime but the Fascinate (Verizon SGS) was one of the best android devices i've ever owned. Good battery life, good performance, fantastic screen, Crappy interface(Touchwiz 4.0 is much better), and super thin and light.
I know i didn't answer your question directly but hopefully my convoluted answer is of some help lol..

Isn't that the Million Dollar Question? The specs on the Hercules showed it not having an Exynos Chipset, and instead using the same Qualcomm that's in our Sensation. It should look almost identical to the ATT Inspire with a 4.5 SAMOLED+/480x800 screen. After using my thunderbolt with a 480 x 800 4.3 inch screen and my Sensation with a qHD display it now seems silly for devices with giant screens to not at least be qHD. All it does is make the icons and text larger. Maybe it's cool for old people, but I now love the extra usable real estate on my screen.

So true.... That 4.5in screen deserves nope demands a qHD display
Such a shame... I would have killed for it. Oh well maybe in another six months
Mobile industry is running out of stuff to upgrade every two months.
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+1 to what others said. If you don't know what I mean... look at my sig.
eyan15 said:
So true.... That 4.5in screen deserves nope demands a qHD display
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I agree. Only thing I don't like about the potential beast of a phone.

Hoggles said:
Keep in mind though, pretty much every early review of the Sensation 4G said it was compatible with At&T...only later to be dismissed as false.
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I have never seen a review that said that the Sensation was compatible with AT&T

Im good till the next htc beast atleast. I refuse to purchase anymore samsung phones. Vibrant was the worst phone I ever had.
2nd no QHD means no interest from me.
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xnifex said:
I have never seen a review that said that the Sensation was compatible with AT&T
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the Canadian version is supposed to be compatible with AT&T

I dunno if it will be on tmo but my next phone will def be a nexus device if the rumous are true. I also really miss vanilla android.
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Paging Dr B said:
Maybe it's cool for old people, but I now love the extra usable real estate on my screen.
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The fact is you can always make more room on any rom, on any device by editing the build.prop
Stock is usually 240, on builds for HD2 I always edited them to have either 200 or 180.

KillaHurtz said:
The fact is you can always make more room on any rom, on any device by editing the build.prop
Stock is usually 240, on builds for HD2 I always edited them to have either 200 or 180.
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True. Just said that for a little extra dramatic effect.

xnifex said:
I have never seen a review that said that the Sensation was compatible with AT&T
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Go to www.phonearena.com they have an article talking about the FCC receiving the sensation with AT&T bands.
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I seriously think that the G2x is the best phone in the T-Mobile line up.
Unlocked bootloader
Vanilla Android
Super Snappy
HDMI port
Tegra 2 processor
Great build quality
Great GPS
Great data reception
8mp camera
Tegra Games
Cyanogen and many others developing for it.
And is just 2.2 Froyo, This phone will be even better when 2.3 comes out.
Despites the issues people have been having with the G2x which most if not all are software, I do believe that there isn't a better phone in the T-Mobile lineup as of now.
Sensation is a good phone but not just as good as the G2x.

[Q] Going to T-Mobile... G2X or Sensation???

Hi Guys... I have a bit of a predicament here. I will be switching to T-Mobile soon, and I need to figure out what phone to get! Basically it boils down to the Sensation or the G2X. Both of them now officially have Gingerbread, with the G2X being stock Android.
Originally I thought that the Sensation would be the sure choice due to it having 768mb of RAM instead of 512mb and because of the qHD screen.
BUT, as I've been researching more and more, I am seeing a lot of reports on how the Sensation screen isn't that great and can look washed out, and worse yet, I see a LOT of reports that the battery life is AWFUL.
I have tried to find more information on the G2X screen but other than it being LCD and 800x480. But I don't know if this is just me, but of the videos and images I've seen of the G2X, I almost have the impression that the contrast ratio and brightness of its screen is better than the Sensation. Has anybody compared them side by side? What do you think about this?
Two other things that make me lean in the direction of the G2X would be that the Sensation has only 1GB of internal storage and the G2X has 8gb, with both having microSD. And also I believe that the Tegra 2 GPU in the G2X is quite a bit better than the Adreno 220 in the Sensation.
So I am totally stuck now and can't make up my mind I'd love to hear input from you guys, especially if you've used both phones side by side (and if you've used gingerbread on the G2X even better!)

Vibrant 4G. We dont have official GB but we just got a great leak and devs are about to start building off of it
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Juls317 said:
Vibrant 4G. We dont have official GB but we just got a great leak and devs are about to start building off of it
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No thanks... I currently have a Galaxy S and am looking to upgrade to a dual core phone. And I've had too many issues with the GPS on my Mesmerize (which I rely on heavily). If we were talking about the Galaxy S II that would be different, but it isn't an option unless I want to spend a lot of money for an unlocked phone.

userno69 said:
No thanks... I currently have a Galaxy S and am looking to upgrade to a dual core phone. And I've had too many issues with the GPS on my Mesmerize (which I rely on heavily). If we were talking about the Galaxy S II that would be different, but it isn't an option unless I want to spend a lot of money for an unlocked phone.
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I was talking about the SGS4G not the II but i havent had an issue with the gps on this and if you compare all three of these phone, most people will tell you to get the 4G. And tmobile is getting the Hercules which is dual core. I believe ig should come out next month
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IMO the Sensation hands down. The G2x does run a lot smoother than I had anticipated but the Sensation is made by a better company and I personally can't get over the look of the screen on the G2x. It looks so thick and plastic-y

Juls317 said:
I was talking about the SGS4G not the II but i havent had an issue with the gps on this and if you compare all three of these phone, most people will tell you to get the 4G. And tmobile is getting the Hercules which is dual core. I believe ig should come out next month
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I prefer the g2x. I had the GS4g it is reall slow compared to all the dual core ones coming out.
I do currently have the sensation though, I had a problem with the g2x replacement that was sent to me from t-mobile and decided to just sell it and buy one.
G2x is a lot faster and has stock which is awesome, but Sensation has better build quality/bigger screen.
G2X has way better support for games, the sensation is lagging behind, even though its packed with specs it can't really use it.
Sensation's camera is WAY better than the G2X.

illatwill said:
IMO the Sensation hands down. The G2x does run a lot smoother than I had anticipated but the Sensation is made by a better company and I personally can't get over the look of the screen on the G2x. It looks so thick and plastic-y
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I think the g2x screen is better, it has way better contrast. The sensation colors and clarity are sort of washed out.

I'm still saying wait for the Hercules (i believe it releases next month, they pushed it back) or the Ruby
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What am I missing - Galaxy SII

I don't get what I am so suppose to be in love with when it comes to the SII vs Infuse 4g.
Now I am strictly comparing the US Specced SII (european I suppose as well since it is the same) vs Infuse 4g.
The infuse has a bigger screen and bigger battery.
The S2 has dual core and a small battery and smaller screen.
So I am going to get dual core eating monster with a smaller battery? Battery life on the Infuse is OK, good, but nothing crazy. The S2 must be awful?
Now if we were getting the 1.5ghz dual core with some form of LTE I could see a little more attraction.
personally though I'll be olding off for something better.

Dual core
1 gig of ram
It's only slightly smaller - actually feels better in your hand.
Gingerbread 2.3.4 from the carrier
Better GPS lock
I'm still wondering if it has the chip needed for voodoo sound though...

It's not a huge difference but you get gingerbread out the box, touchwiz 4.0, dual core, 1080p recording, hdmi(infuse as well), thx soluscado totally slipped my mind, etc. The infuse is ok but i'm probably getting rid of mine. The checkered loading is driving me crazy.

I agree with the OP. The dual core proc seems like a "meh" addition, especially considering the battery trade-off. I just don't use TouchWiz anyway, so that's irrelevant. The bigger screen is a BIG deal to me, and any video I take with my phone is displayed on my phone, so 1080p recording is irrelevant. I'm pretty sure you get HDMI out on the Infuse as well, but I have no use for that either. And the Gingerbread enhancements are so minor (to me) that I really couldn't care less whether it's available OOB or not.

crawlgsx said:
I don't get what I am so suppose to be in love with when it comes to the SII vs Infuse 4g.
Now I am strictly comparing the US Specced SII (european I suppose as well since it is the same) vs Infuse 4g.
The infuse has a bigger screen and bigger battery.
The S2 has dual core and a small battery and smaller screen.
So I am going to get dual core eating monster with a smaller battery? Battery life on the Infuse is OK, good, but nothing crazy. The S2 must be awful?
Now if we were getting the 1.5ghz dual core with some form of LTE I could see a little more attraction.
personally though I'll be olding off for something better.
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What you said.

Yea no point. I'll stick with my infuse until samsung releases an lte phone on att like ours or the s2. Or wait for googles next phone and hope that is lte as well.
Dual core is not enough reason to upgrade, I want real 4g speeds.
Infuse running Serendipity VII

If the GPS chip is better than that of the infuse then I'm switching. I use the GPS more than anything else on the phone and that is a deal breaker for me. If the infuse had a perfect working GPS, I'd take it over the s2 anyday.
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The battery life on the sgs2 i don't thinks all that bad. The battery.2 inch screen difference i hardly notice, gb is awesome. Mines yet to show any sign of lag at all. I haven't even touched the infuse since i got the sgs2. Once gb comes out ill use it. Until then though ill stick with gb and my dual core .
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VtHondaGuy08 said:
The battery life on the sgs2 i don't thinks all that bad. The battery.2 inch screen difference i hardly notice, gb is awesome. Mines yet to show any sign of lag at all. I haven't even touched the infuse since i got the sgs2. Once gb comes out ill use it. Until then though ill stick with gb and my dual core .
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Lol but auto text on it is a total fail.... Hopefully you guys understand.
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I know this topic has come up a few times in the month or so I've owned my infuse and watched these forums, and I'm sure I'm not the only one wondering if it's worth the switch to the AT&T-branded SGSII. Honestly the thing I'd have wanted most from the European SGSII was the physical Home button, but that didn't make it over here (needs more patent litigation).
I do agree that the .2" off the screen is actually a bonus; 4.3" screens feel a lot nicer when using to chat--somehow the AT&T SGSII is more than .2" off in both dimensions (4.96" x 2.60" vs. 5.2" x 2.8" according to Samsung). Still, a fifth of an inch either way isn't a deal-breaker for me either way.
The dual core SGSII processor is obviously the big difference, and I have yet to see anyone post a compelling, non-anecdotal reason to have a second core on a phone. I don't know many people who have felt their Infuse was insufficiently responsive, and no game I've run has had any noticeable lag on the Infuse, though my experience is hardly extensive.
Does anyone know how much RAM the AT&T SGSII has? If it had the full gig that the Euro version has, that'd also be a nice bonus, as I have managed to fill up the sub-half-gig that the Infuse has available.
The last feature I think deserves mention is NFC, which the ATT SGSII does have, reportedly. Not that I really expect to be paying by NFC any time soon, but what are we if not nerds who want more features on our phones?

teiglin said:
I know this topic has come up a few times in the month or so I've owned my infuse and watched these forums, and I'm sure I'm not the only one wondering if it's worth the switch to the AT&T-branded SGSII. Honestly the thing I'd have wanted most from the European SGSII was the physical Home button, but that didn't make it over here (needs more patent litigation).
I do agree that the .2" off the screen is actually a bonus; 4.3" screens feel a lot nicer when using to chat--somehow the AT&T SGSII is more than .2" off in both dimensions (4.96" x 2.60" vs. 5.2" x 2.8" according to Samsung). Still, a fifth of an inch either way isn't a deal-breaker for me either way.
The dual core SGSII processor is obviously the big difference, and I have yet to see anyone post a compelling, non-anecdotal reason to have a second core on a phone. I don't know many people who have felt their Infuse was insufficiently responsive, and no game I've run has had any noticeable lag on the Infuse, though my experience is hardly extensive.
Does anyone know how much RAM the AT&T SGSII has? If it had the full gig that the Euro version has, that'd also be a nice bonus, as I have managed to fill up the sub-half-gig that the Infuse has available.
The last feature I think deserves mention is NFC, which the ATT SGSII does have, reportedly. Not that I really expect to be paying by NFC any time soon, but what are we if not nerds who want more features on our phones?
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looks like 512 ram NOT 100% sure though

I wouldn't bet on better GPS lock
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dajeoo said:
I wouldn't bet on better GPS lock
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Mine is def a netter lock then on my infuse.
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There isn't a single thing that the Infuse beats the SGS II in. It ties in a few places like camera, but that's it. The SGS II is the best Android phone in existence, and the Infuse probably wouldn't have even been the best of 2010.

CheesyNutz said:
looks like 512 ram NOT 100% sure though
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It's 1GB of RAM total, and like 800 MB for the user.

MikeyMike01 said:
It's 1GB of RAM total, and like 800 MB for the user.
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If its anything like the Euro version it has 839mb ram for the user.
And I agree Mikey it is probably the best Android phone out there!

Do we know if its ddr2 ram? What about the i/o tech? That LG is dual something or other.
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MikeyMike01 said:
There isn't a single thing that the Infuse beats the SGS II in. It ties in a few places like camera, but that's it. The SGS II is the best Android phone in existence, and the Infuse probably wouldn't have even been the best of 2010.
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I don't think i can agree with that. I havent yet used one, but i cam say that having the largest and brightest display on the market is a huge plus for me. Regardless of whether it may seem like a better deal, i feel that the sgs2 is basically a smaller infuse. It looks the same and does all the same things. Really can't count gb as a plus either since we already have it on the infuse and an official version by the time the sgs2 is readily available to most. I can't see any advantage to 1080p either since it will just eat up more of that inferior battery. Just my 2 cents.
Edit: on top of all that, i don't know why u said 2010? you meant 2011? even if that was so i find that hard tp believe also. Considering that feature for feature, the Infuse was the best overall android device you could buy here in the U.S. when it was released. That said, the only real reason the Infuse hasn't out sold the competition is the lack of hype behind it and a very quiet release by Samsung. Quite unlike the sgs2 which is released first in their most local market. It obviously is pointed towards the more general technophile audience. The infuse i feel was directed towards the huge media phone freaks.
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tazbo28 said:
I don't think i can agree with that. I havent yet used one, but i cam say that having the largest and brightest display on the market is a huge plus for me. Regardless of whether it may seem like a better deal, i feel that the sgs2 is basically a smaller infuse. It looks the same and does all the same things. Really can't count gb as a plus either since we already have it on the infuse and an official version by the time the sgs2 is readily available to most. I can't see any advantage to 1080p either since it will just eat up more of that inferior battery. Just my 2 cents.
Edit: on top of all that, i don't know why u said 2010? you meant 2011? even if that was so i find that hard tp believe also. Considering that feature for feature, the Infuse was the best overall android device you could buy here in the U.S. when it was released. That said, the only real reason the Infuse hasn't out sold the competition is the lack of hype behind it and a very quiet release by Samsung. Quite unlike the sgs2 which is released first in their most local market. It obviously is pointed towards the more general technophile audience. The infuse i feel was directed towards the huge media phone freaks.
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Report back after you have held and used one!
you will see the difference for sure
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Edit: on top of all that, i don't know why u said 2010?
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I said 2010 on purpose. That's where single core Froyo phones belong.

HTC Vivid or SGSII Skyrocket?

I was going to upgrade to a SGSII until I just heard these two are coming out in the next couple weeks.
Issue with SGSII is now the user base and Devs will be split between these two devices. Add to that, it's still unclear if the phone will be on Exynos or Snapdragon - which could affect the Rom base.
The Vivid however looks like a really nice phone as well. Just unsure how many Devs will be jumping on that. Add to that it's a qHD screen (although probably not close to the SAMOLED+ in terms of colors and blacks).
Decisions...
But 4.5inch on a 800x480 doesn't seem to great. The qHD is quite better for a 4.5inch.

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I was going to upgrade to a SGSII until I just heard these two are coming out in the next couple weeks.
Issue with SGSII is now the user base and Devs will be split between these two devices. Add to that, it's still unclear if the phone will be on Exynos or Snapdragon - which could affect the Rom base.
The Vivid however looks like a really nice phone as well. Just unsure how many Devs will be jumping on that. Add to that it's a qHD screen (although probably not close to the SAMOLED+ in terms of colors and blacks).
Decisions...
But 4.5inch on a 800x480 doesn't seem to great. The qHD is quite better for a 4.5inch.
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The GS2LTE is a 1.2GHz clocked CPU; therefore, it is an Exynos and not the 1.5GHz Snapdragon present in the TMobile version.
The Vivid, being the only AT&T HTC device (and since it's a newer HTC device, hopefully stock unlocked bootloaders), should have a decent following both in general userbase and in development. I get the feeling that the only reason why people gravitated to the Captivate is due to the fact that it was AT&T's only reasonable Android device at the time.
I've just been so frustrated with Samsung's stock experience on the Captivate and all the problems that this phone has been giving me, unlike my friend's rooted and near-stock Inspire 4G, that I will never consider buying a Samsung Android device again. I don't care how good it looks on paper; the Captivate did not really work in practice until developers got their hands dirty and fixed it for the rest of us.

HTC.......
the SGS2 is great, but HTC always gets the latest and greatest and the most dev support....

qwertyaas said:
I was going to upgrade to a SGSII until I just heard these two are coming out in the next couple weeks.
Issue with SGSII is now the user base and Devs will be split between these two devices. Add to that, it's still unclear if the phone will be on Exynos or Snapdragon - which could affect the Rom base.
The Vivid however looks like a really nice phone as well. Just unsure how many Devs will be jumping on that. Add to that it's a qHD screen (although probably not close to the SAMOLED+ in terms of colors and blacks).
Decisions...
But 4.5inch on a 800x480 doesn't seem to great. The qHD is quite better for a 4.5inch.
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As much as I'm getting frustrated with my Cappy, I think I'm going to wait it out and see what other XDA members say about both of them before buying. Also, I want to see something official from the manufacturers and ATT on whether or not these are getting ICS.
I don't know about this (just thinking out loud here), but could the resolutions change after an ICS update? If it's possible, it would be worth waiting to see what happens after (if) they get an ICS update.
I really want to trust the specs from Samsung but after the GPS issues, the reboot issues, the poor camera quality, the lack of release updates (be it ATT or Samsung) - it's going to be tough to woo me back to another Samsung phone. I know I have a 1GHz phone with good hardware in my hands but my senses always feel like my wife's Nexus1 runs smoother and better on older hardware.
If Samsung (and all phone manufacturers for this matter) actually cared about the customer there would be one form factor across all wireless providers to help encourage innovative accessories and to help reduce the cost of accessories for the customer. Ok, now I'm ranting on a tangent. Time to stop.

The SGS2 i777 already has a good Dev base and continuing to grow already. The sgs2 i777 has in common with the i9100 as we that have/had cappys should know the i897 cappy and i9000 were like sisters and is HOW we had so much Dev support. Most the devs that I have seen already are stating that they are staying with the i777 and NOT moving to the i727 skyrocket.
There are already a few post over in the ATT SGS2 General forums debating this so you can catch up on it beforehand.
Basically it is an ALMOST FOR SURE thing that it is NOT the 1.5Ghz Exerynos chip in it since Samsung stated that ONLY test chips were ready by the end of this year and should make it into phones by the middle of 2012.
The screen is .2" larger but with the SAME 800x480 resolution.
It is Lte which is the ONLY GOOD THING I see in it unless you live in an Lte area now and don't stray out.of that area. The Lte coverage will ONLY BE 12 markets by the end.of the year and will take a few years to spread it out better.
Back to the Dev support, if you look into the tmobile section of xda you will see how slow the Dev support is there and how they have like 1 base kernel that is not tweaked much at all. The Dev base is not too good compared to the Dev base of the i777.
The reason I mention the T-Mobile version is it sounds like MOSTLY it is the same phone with the same chipsets just with a different Lte radio.
I came from/still have 2 of 3 of my cappys, went to the sgs2 i777 on Oct. 4th and Lte will be in my area by the end of the year. I am within the timeframe to return the sgs2 now but wont be doing it due to the Dev base and the similarities with it and the i9100. Which as we know the i9000 got all the updates and goodies which were pretty easily ported over to out captivates since they were similiar. The SAME is/will be true with the i777 and i9100. The i727 doesn't have a sister unbranded phone to port from so will likely be at the mercy of ATT for future software updates. The i777 should get ICS shortly after the i9100 well before att decides to give us ICS on either phone. So to make a long story short I am choosing because.of the Dev support and compatibility of phones already out there. The i727 will be a 1fer phone, one of a kind for the most part. Not wanting to start a i777/i727 flaming war here as each person will have their own ideas about it. That is how.it has already turned into in most of the post about this subject over there. Just giving my thoughts and feelings here.
Plus I have always qualified for an upgrade.on my line every 12 months as I did this time. So 12 months.from now Lte may be in a better spotlight with coverage, the sgs3 should be making its way by that time. The i777 sgs2 kicks ass for sure and I have not had any of the little learning issues/bad flashes/ test software as when I started out with my cappy last year in July. It just works without any of the hiccups. We had actual roms on LAUNCH DAY due to being SO CLOSE to the i9100...
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I guess it's true and I thought this before. If going for a SGSII, no point not getting the original - especially since soon ports of the International SGSII will be coming around and the Skyrocket might have different HW.
But the HTC is tempting as they usually make really nice phones - and there might be a good amount of Devs and people in general jumping on it after the Inspire.

Looks like the SGS2LTE has the Exynos 4212 just from comparing hardware specs. The 1.2Ghz version in the regular SGS2 the Exynos 4210. Throw "Exynos 4212" into google search and you'll see some impressive specs. It is supposed to have 30% better power use and 5 times more powerful graphics performance. I'm not an expert, but this is just what I think is under the hood.

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Looks like the SGS2LTE has the Exynos 4212 just from comparing hardware specs. The 1.2Ghz version in the regular SGS2 the Exynos 4210. Throw "Exynos 4212" into google search and you'll see some impressive specs. It is supposed to have 30% better power use and 5 times more powerful graphics performance. I'm not an expert, but this is just what I think is under the hood.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1319484
Read on the Rogers version Qualcomm
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Posted by Mr.Junky on other post. http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4124&idPhone2=4130
Only issue I see is that it list the OG SGS2 as still having the FM radio and the pic of the Ltd version is of a i9100 or something with the physical home button.
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Once the chipset is officially confirmed exyons vs qualcomm that will be the deciding factor in ROM porting. If the skyrocket has the qualcomm chip, there will be no i9100 ports. The only chance of ports will be the TMo version, which should have very little likelyhood of being any better than the ATT version.
There is a lot of circumstancial evidence pointing to the qualcomm chip, check out the several large threads in the i777 Galaxy S II forum. Most devs chimed in and have said the i777 will be the only us version capable of getting ROM ports from the I9100, because they are so close.
There is no proof yet the Vivid will have an unlocked bootloader when shipped.
If you enjoy flashing ROMs, or want the most selection in ROMs, the i777 OG GS II will likely be your best bet.
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Can't decide if I should get SG2 skyrocket or HTC vivid.
I am returning my AT&T SG2 tomorrow.

vl221 said:
Can't decide if I should get SG2 skyrocket or HTC vivid.
I am returning my AT&T SG2 tomorrow.
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Ah, first world troubles. I seriously doubt either phone will disappoint in any showstopping way, with or without a substantial amount of developer support.

Currently I have a Galaxy S II Epic 4g touch on sprint. I will be leaving sprint for multiple reason and going to AT&T to get the HTC Vivid. In my opinion samsung makes better phones but HTC gives you a much better user experience. Here are some pro's and cons of samsung and htc (my opinions are based on my current phone the gs2 and my previous phone the evo)
Samsung beats HTC at:
Screen is better
Camera is better
CPU is faster
Sound on speaker is louder and more clear
HTC beats Samsung at:
Way better widgets
Screen is more sensitive
GPS actually works (gps on samsung phones are always pure failure)
Higher quality plastic
please dont get mad if you disagree this is just my opinion. I will be getting the white vivid and will never get a non htc phone again.

The normal SGS II is better than the Skyrocket. FYI.

The one real downer to the SGS II LTE that would probably stop me from getting it is the resolution is 480 x 800 pixels @ 4.5 inches = 207ppi pixel density?? REALLY?! I think the G1 had better than that

So the HTC vivid and the SGS2 Lte both have worse processors that the OG SGS2? One with 1.2 snapdragon and the other with 1.5 qualcomm?
http://www.theverge.com/2011/11/3/2535251/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-skyrocket-pictures-hands-on-att-lte
Glad I am sticking with the OG SGS2
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Only downside now w/ the Vivid, is that it is plastic and not the usual aluminum unibody construction. One of the things that always separated HTC from Samsung IMO

Noob question: I don't know much about the new phones coming out but wouldn't the new nexus that's coming out be a greater or just as good choice. Just wondering because I always thought the nexus s had the most dev support and updates since it was a google phone.
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mossination said:
Noob question: I don't know much about the new phones coming out but wouldn't the new nexus that's coming out be a greater or just as good choice. Just wondering because I always thought the nexus s had the most dev support and updates since it was a google phone.
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It will, but not everyone is willing to fork over money off-contract; I've heard that they're changing it to allow multiple carriers to subsidize, but still. I am passionately avoiding Samsung devices from now on.

I thought Nexus is exclusive to Verizon in the US. Not much help for the ATT, Tmobile and Spring folks.
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It will, but not everyone is willing to fork over money off-contract; I've heard that they're changing it to allow multiple carriers to subsidize, but still. I am passionately avoiding Samsung devices from now on.
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What is wrong with Samsung? I have a SG2 but debating if I should get the Vivid or the Skyrocket.
Specs wise it seems like the skyrocket got the Vivid beat.

HD?

Okay. So me and my mother are switching to AT&T soon, from Sprint. The skyrocket is the phone I'm going to go with, however I'm trying to figure out whether I should get the Skyrocket or use an old phone to hold me over until the skyrocket HD comes out? Yeah I know the only difference will be price and of course screen resolution but I don't want to get stuck for 2 years with 800x480 pixels when in a year we'll probably see like 3480x2140. Lol I'm wondering though, will the skyrocket HD have a decent amount of development? All I need is of course cm7/9 and or MIUI. I was also wondering, will it use the same roms and themes as the original Skyrocket since its the same phone just with a higher resolution screen? If that's the case I'm going to just wait for the HD. Which I'll probably do anyways. Just wanted to ask these questions. Thanks guys.
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Why do people buy skyrocket on att when its using snapdragon plus the screen is messed up? When you guys have the other version for 100 dollars!!!!! Fuq me im stuck on tmobile smh
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My snapdragon and screen are fine...anyhow, wait till the HD in my opinion. Skyrocket is a great phone either way.
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Why do people buy skyrocket on att when its using snapdragon plus the screen is messed up? When you guys have the other version for 100 dollars!!!!! Fuq me im stuck on tmobile smh
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there are these 3 letters that everyone NOT on TMo/Sprint like:
L
T
E

The original poster already said he was conflicted on whether to get the Og or the HD because he didn't want to be left behind with an obsulete version. I say get the HD, my phone having the latest features helped me pick the skyrocket. I knew I would never be happy with a phone knowing LTE was out.
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Why do people buy skyrocket on att when its using snapdragon plus the screen is messed up? When you guys have the other version for 100 dollars!!!!! Fuq me im stuck on tmobile smh
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barmanham said:
Why do people buy skyrocket on att when its using snapdragon plus the screen is messed up? When you guys have the other version for 100 dollars!!!!! Fuq me im stuck on tmobile smh
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My Skyrocket is better than the SGS2 for AT&T (i777) I had previously: equivalent UI/app speed, much faster data, bigger screen, equivalent battery life.
What was your point?

By the time HD skyrocket hits retail the SGS 3 should be coming out.
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Okay. So me and my mother are switching to AT&T soon, from Sprint. The skyrocket is the phone I'm going to go with, however I'm trying to figure out whether I should get the Skyrocket or use an old phone to hold me over until the skyrocket HD comes out? Yeah I know the only difference will be price and of course screen resolution but I don't want to get stuck for 2 years with 800x480 pixels when in a year we'll probably see like 3480x2140. Lol I'm wondering though, will the skyrocket HD have a decent amount of development? All I need is of course cm7/9 and or MIUI. I was also wondering, will it use the same roms and themes as the original Skyrocket since its the same phone just with a higher resolution screen? If that's the case I'm going to just wait for the HD. Which I'll probably do anyways. Just wanted to ask these questions. Thanks guys.
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Development between the Skyrocket and HD will likely see a huge amount of overlap. Adapting ROMs from one to the other will likely require little more than a recompile. So in that regard, ultimately the two models are good for us, brings more people into the fold.
So don't worry about the HD getting neglected. If that's your concern, wait it out.
You might also want to consider the regular Galaxy S II. All it's missing is LTE, and it's cheaper, available right now, already has ICS, and the Exynos is generally considered to be the more powerful chip (although the difference isn't that huge, they're both very speedy phones).
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By the time HD skyrocket hits retail the SGS 3 should be coming out.
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In Korea or whatever. We never get that stuff until 6 months later.

Even if you get the HD another phone that's better will probably come out. Besides isn't the battery life going to be worse on HD than on the OG rocket?
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my advice is to wait for the HD and see how it compares performance, battery wise etc and then make a decision. Not sure the snapdragon or any processor can handle almost 3X more pixels with ease.

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Even if you get the HD another phone that's better will probably come out. Besides isn't the battery life going to be worse on HD than on the OG rocket?
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It doesn't really work that way. The HD Super AMOLED screen isn't going to use more just because of its resolution. Super AMOLED Plus in our phones demonstrated much lower power consumption, despite a huge increase in subpixel resolution compared to the Super AMOLED panels in the first Galaxy S.
I mean the screen may or may not be a greater power draw. I haven't seen any comparisons. But I wouldn't assume it is just because it's HD resolution.
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Not sure the snapdragon or any processor can handle almost 3X more pixels with ease.
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This is a legit concern. Not that the chip can't handle it; It's at the very least better equipped to do so than the OMAP in the Galaxy Nexus. But there's surely a performance hit to be taken by running at a much higher resolution.

The Galaxy S II LTE WIMAX came out here in Japan recently with the HD resolution. The screen is slightly bigger than the LTE/Skyrocket but the AMOLED technology is the same as the previous Galaxy S II.
The screen is very nice, perhaps a little better than the LG Optimus LTE HD (Nitro) in terms of viewing angle and brightness, however it's not the same as the super AMOLED plus in the LTE/Skyrocket which is quite vivid by comparison.
Text on the WIMAX is very readable, and nicer to read than on the LTE, however some people might find it a little too small. I've always been a 1080p guy, but have found myself straining my eyes on small screens these days. A 10.1" tablet would just about be the minimum size for full HD.
The smaller size resolution and screen on the LTE makes panel transition smoother (the Galaxy S II is smoother still), the HD panels of the WIMAX is hefty work for the same processor also used by the LTE, if speed is your priority then I would recommend waiting for the second generation HD phones to come out with much faster processors.
I had a feeling that the HD panels wouldn't be as bright being a first generation type which was why I went for the LTE, it may probably be the last of the 800x480 type but it will be the best it can be.
Anyway and we are still subjected to regular Android changes that may produce more HD based applications, so who knows where this will be heading. It will benefit tablets more because the higher resolution helps, but not sure on mobile phones.

The only reason I would say wait is if the resolution is that big of a deal to you.
Personally I went from the 4" Atrix with a higher resolution to the 4.5" Skyrocket with a lower resolution, so it bugged the ****ing hell out of me (made me feel like an old person phone with the huge ass buttons). It was fixed with the "LCD Resolution" app; I'm now running at 914 x 548 with the Skyrocket and this phone is everything I've ever wanted.
Like others have said, when the Skyrocket is announced there will be other phones that you will want and will just have to wait even longer.

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The only reason I would say wait is if the resolution is that big of a deal to you.
Personally I went from the 4" Atrix with a higher resolution to the 4.5" Skyrocket with a lower resolution, so it bugged the ****ing hell out of me (made me feel like an old person phone with the huge ass buttons). It was fixed with the "LCD Resolution" app; I'm now running at 914 x 548 with the Skyrocket and this phone is everything I've ever wanted.
Like others have said, when the Skyrocket is announced there will be other phones that you will want and will just have to wait even longer.
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lol! I was at a meeting in December and pulled out my skyrocket to look at something and a co worker said "why are your icons so big? Is that the cricket phone for old people?" hahahaha!

Kaaji1359 said:
The only reason I would say wait is if the resolution is that big of a deal to you.
Personally I went from the 4" Atrix with a higher resolution to the 4.5" Skyrocket with a lower resolution, so it bugged the ****ing hell out of me (made me feel like an old person phone with the huge ass buttons). It was fixed with the "LCD Resolution" app; I'm now running at 914 x 548 with the Skyrocket and this phone is everything I've ever wanted.
Like others have said, when the Skyrocket is announced there will be other phones that you will want and will just have to wait even longer.
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same exact situation here! Once density changed, it changed everything for me! Had the same issues when retiring the atrix.

Get HD Go big or do not go at all Luv my rocket
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Kaaji1359 said:
The only reason I would say wait is if the resolution is that big of a deal to you.
Personally I went from the 4" Atrix with a higher resolution to the 4.5" Skyrocket with a lower resolution, so it bugged the ****ing hell out of me (made me feel like an old person phone with the huge ass buttons). It was fixed with the "LCD Resolution" app; I'm now running at 914 x 548 with the Skyrocket and this phone is everything I've ever wanted.
Like others have said, when the Skyrocket is announced there will be other phones that you will want and will just have to wait even longer.
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I will have to check out that app! I have been bothered by the giant icons after coming from the Atrix. I'm looking forward to trying out the Alien ROM on this phone, I loved it on the Atrix.

taylrjones said:
I will have to check out that app! I have been bothered by the giant icons after coming from the Atrix. I'm looking forward to trying out the Alien ROM on this phone, I loved it on the Atrix.
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I have the Galaxy Captivate, the AT&T Galaxy S II, and the Skyrocket.
The captivate served me well. Still is kicking ass with ICS on it.
The AT&T Galaxy S II is nice, fast and a good phone.
But I use the skyrocket because it's JUST as fast as the GS II, it's got LTE and a bigger screen (My screen looks fine, great actually).
I had some battery issues with a rom but flashed again and It's been kicking along just fine. 12 hours later , still got 63% battery left.

Kaaji1359 said:
The only reason I would say wait is if the resolution is that big of a deal to you.
Personally I went from the 4" Atrix with a higher resolution to the 4.5" Skyrocket with a lower resolution, so it bugged the ****ing hell out of me (made me feel like an old person phone with the huge ass buttons). It was fixed with the "LCD Resolution" app; I'm now running at 914 x 548 with the Skyrocket and this phone is everything I've ever wanted.
Like others have said, when the Skyrocket is announced there will be other phones that you will want and will just have to wait even longer.
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Wow thanks for the tip on that app, love my phone even more now! Just wish I could fit more apps on the screen now, they seem so spaced out...lol
Ok nevermind about fitting more apps. Tried out ADW Launcher and it works beautifully. Only pita is having to go back to stock resolution to install some things in the market then setting everything up again...