What would an official bootloader unlocking tool offer us if we already have the ability to flash custom ROMs onto the device?
we could flash custom kernels, which would make overclocking possible, or maybe other functionalities...
LeoBloom. said:
What would an official bootloader unlocking tool offer us if we already have the ability to flash custom ROMs onto the device?
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You can use nvlash. This gives more possibilities to unbrick.
And you can install roms without being root. Without root (and cwm) you cannot install custom rom.
gls9 said:
You can use nvlash. This gives more possibilities to unbrick.
And you can install roms without being root. Without root (and cwm) you cannot install custom rom.
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this probably will not be the case actually, I forsee that they will just give fastboot access
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as title. Thanks!
mrjayviper said:
as title. Thanks!
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Yes, just install custom rom then you have root. (root build-in custom rom). No need to install superSU, however you need to flash TWRP first inorder to flash custom rom.
I'm on the latest official OTA of 4.2.1
Do I need to unlock the bootloader to root?
I read this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2187982
and I'm still not sure whats happening... Do I need to downgrade to root, and do I need to unlock the bootloader to flash TWRP?
I know a bit of what I'm doing as I have rooted and flashed roms on an htc desire and a samsung s2x (t989).
On 4.2.1 theres the occasional hiccup and freezes when I use chrome... Is this still an issue in the custom roms? Also my Settings app crashes when I try to load the "Running" tab in the apps section of settings lol
Can someone point me in the right direct?
Chris9446 said:
I'm on the latest official OTA of 4.2.1
Do I need to unlock the bootloader to root?
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Well, you have two basic options:
Get root without unlocking.
That is good, if you want to stick with stock ROM, but want to run Apps that need root access.
Or if you don't want to unlock for any reason.
More details in this thread: [JB ROOT] motochopper works! (Root JB 4.1.1 & 4.2.1 with locked bootloader!)
Unlock and install the patched TWRP for -4.2.
This will allow you to root stock ROM easily or you can install custom ROMs.
Be careful: You have the boot loader 4.2, which means you need to pick the patched TWRP for that boot loader and you need to pick one of the ROMs supporting the 4.2 boot loader.
People have bricked their TF300Ts not using the patched TWRP -4.2 version.
There are currently only two ROMs available, but more should be coming soon, as Asus has finally released the new kernel source code.
If your preferred custom ROM supports only the 4.1 boot loader, you need to downgrade. Or just wait a little, as you like...
I read this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2187982
and I'm still not sure whats happening... Do I need to downgrade to root, and do I need to unlock the bootloader to flash TWRP?
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No and yes.
You can use the tool from the tread above just get root; no downgrading, no unlocking.
But yes, if you want to install TWRP, you need to unlock your device first.
You only need to downgrade for installing a custom ROM that does not (yet) support the 4.2 boot loader.
On 4.2.1 theres the occasional hiccup and freezes when I use chrome... Is this still an issue in the custom roms? Also my Settings app crashes when I try to load the "Running" tab in the apps section of settings lol
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I have not used stock ROM for a while, but generally people report that most custom ROMs run much smoother than stock Asus ROM:
I would suggest downgrading ti the 4.1.1 bootloader, as there is a much larger variety or ROMS available.
f69m said:
Well, you have two basic options:
Get root without unlocking.
That is good, if you want to stick with stock ROM, but want to run Apps that need root access.
Or if you don't want to unlock for any reason.
More details in this thread: [JB ROOT] motochopper works! (Root JB 4.1.1 & 4.2.1 with locked bootloader!)
Unlock and install the patched TWRP for -4.2.
This will allow you to root stock ROM easily or you can install custom ROMs.
Be careful: You have the boot loader 4.2, which means you need to pick the patched TWRP for that boot loader and you need to pick one of the ROMs supporting the 4.2 boot loader.
People have bricked their TF300Ts not using the patched TWRP -4.2 version.
There are currently only two ROMs available, but more should be coming soon, as Asus has finally released the new kernel source code.
If your preferred custom ROM supports only the 4.1 boot loader, you need to downgrade. Or just wait a little, as you like...
No and yes.
You can use the tool from the tread above just get root; no downgrading, no unlocking.
But yes, if you want to install TWRP, you need to unlock your device first.
You only need to downgrade for installing a custom ROM that does not (yet) support the 4.2 boot loader.
I have not used stock ROM for a while, but generally people report that most custom ROMs run much smoother than stock Asus ROM:
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Thanks was a lot of great information! I rooted my pad and did a few speed optimization things such as re-trimming and now its much smoother! Maybe I'll try a custom rom later but as for now, I'm happy with the updates that Asus provides
cmendonc2 said:
I would suggest downgrading ti the 4.1.1 bootloader, as there is a much larger variety or ROMS available.
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I'll keep that in mind but I believe there should be more soon as f69m, stated that asus release the kernel for 4.2
I signed that petition in your signature as well
I'd say go for the 'full experience'. Having an unlocked device also allows you to reflash ROMs at will and can also help in a pinch when it comes to backups/restores. Also, if you happen to lose root, it's easily re-rootable through the bootloader.
I'd just be careful of the current TWRP 4.2.1 recovery blob. I just flashed the one released this morning and I am currently getting this weird double screen thing. Best bet is to sit tight at the moment; an update should be out shortly.
danjng said:
I'd just be careful of the current TWRP 4.2.1 recovery blob. I just flashed the one released this morning and I am currently getting this weird double screen thing. Best bet is to sit tight at the moment; an update should be out shortly.
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Well, stay away from the TWRP 2.5.0.0-4.2 provided in some thread today, but TWRP 2.4.4.0-4.2 should still be working fine.
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What is a bootloader(tell me in simplest way)....Is unlocking the bootloader really required...? If not then please post another method for root......
ak_wolf007 said:
What is a bootloader(tell me in simplest way)....Is unlocking the bootloader really required...? If not then please post another method for root......
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watch this video to unlock it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIdJg7KNH3A
and a bootloader allows you to flash kernels/recovers/ and other custom things but only if it is unlocked.
with custom recovery you can install roms,make full system backup,and other things.
a custom kernel wil allow you to overclock cpu/gpu and more.
a custom recovery can be used to flash root.update zip.
but after unlocking bootloader you void your warranty . and your device got hard reset(factory reset)
it can be only unlocked if it is allowed to be unlocked.
android-vinay said:
and a bootloader allows you to flash kernels/recovers/ and other custom things but only if it is unlocked.
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Not entirely true, at least to all devices. I have a Moto Defy which also has a locked bootloader, no way to unlock, running KK CM11. Developer @pedrodh has managed to create an app called "2ndinit" (1) which allows a second kernel to boot on top of the locked one, allowing to flash new builds despite the locked bootloader. Because of this, Defy is known as unbricable. Similar approach could be used on E3 if some devel take a look into this.
(1) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1032212
Regards,
mmerlone said:
Not entirely true, at least to all devices. I have a Moto Defy which also has a locked bootloader, no way to unlock, running KK CM11. Developer @pedrodh has managed to create an app called "2ndinit" (1) which allows a second kernel to boot on top of the locked one, allowing to flash new builds despite the locked bootloader. Because of this, Defy is known as unbricable. Similar approach could be used on E3 if some devel take a look into this.
(1) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1032212
Regards,
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this required root.
for now you need to unlockbootloader to root xperia.
root ur device without unlocking
vinay said:
this required root.
for now you need to unlockbootloader to root xperia.
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just use kingoroot or kingroot to root ur device no need to unlock boot loader for running those you will have root access but can't do the flashing part
Can you use flash fire to flash a international rom on the g930t.
kevin527 said:
Can you use flash fire to flash a international rom on the g930t.
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Hi
Well is a good question , Chainfire said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/general/paid-software/flashfire-t3075433
FlashFire is the most advanced on-device firmware flasher available for rooted Android devices. It can flash full firmware packages from various manufacturers, as well as apply over-the-air (OTA) and ZIP updates - all while maintaining root, and without using a custom recovery.
So in theory you can, but he also said:
https://flashfire.chainfire.eu/
Unlocked bootloader
While an unlocked bootloader is not strictly necessary for many of FlashFire's functionalities, we strongly recommend all root users to run unlocked if possible. With locked bootloaders, there is a much higher chance of a device being unrecoverable if something goes wrong. This is not just true for FlashFire, but for many root apps. The specifics are device dependent.
nevertheless , here in this thread they seem to have used and work
http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmo...-available-t3414146/post67699508#post67699508
I'll test it out and report back.
kevin527 said:
I'll test it out and report back.
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Please do mate.
good luck.
kevin527 said:
Can you use flash fire to flash a international rom on the g930t.
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Are you sure you want to flash an exynos rom onto a snapdragon phone?
Is anybody going to or has anybody ported this ? ive seen on other websites its only available for the exynos versions
Not going to happen until we get an unlocked bootloader, unfortunately.
You're not going to see a full "custom" ROM until we get a bootloader unlock. Yes, there are stock, debloated ROM's with some tweaks already out there, but a full customizable ROM and kernel won't happen until we get an unlock.
troby86 said:
You're not going to see a full "custom" ROM until we get a bootloader unlock. Yes, there are stock, debloated ROM's with some tweaks already out there, but a full customizable ROM and kernel won't happen until we get an unlock.
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Why not? Can't you flash ROMs using FlashFire?
DragonFire1024 said:
Why not? Can't you flash ROMs using FlashFire?
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Again, locked bootloader ... So no custom recovery , no custom ROMs, no custom kernels.
KillerClaw321 said:
Again, locked bootloader ... So no custom recovery , no custom ROMs, no custom kernels.
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Not true at all. You can flash ROMs with FlashFire even if bootloader is locked.
DragonFire1024 said:
Not true at all. You can flash ROMs with FlashFire even if bootloader is locked.
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You can flash modified stock ROMs but that's it.
Nope we can flash stock roms bc it has a,secure-flash locked bootloader, which is similar to Verizon’s lock on previous Samsung devices. Also it has dm-verity is enabled in the kernel which means we can't modify the kernel or any partitions.
Can we flash an international rom would that work
SIGMAxB said:
Can we flash an international rom would that work
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No, because the international is an Exynos processor. While we are under the boot of qualcomm and US carriers having ours setup the way it is.