Why do roms get slower with time? - HTC Sensation

I notice that when you first flash a ROM its fast and smooth but after a few Weeks its starts allowing down. How do you fix this?
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Its the other way around for me... :S
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aamir123 said:
I notice that when you first flash a ROM its fast and smooth but after a few Weeks its starts allowing down. How do you fix this?
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It's difficult to answer this in general.
Also I don't pretend to be knowledgeable about the full scope of cases.
Often this has to do with a caching strategy and memory resource management strategy and as such you will observe this phenomenon on many platforms with any OS. Optimal caching is about resource management for short term satisfaction (and spectacular speeds while it lasts) or long term equilibrium.
Android makes it easy to cook your own ROM. the task is still about acquiring a huge amount of knowledge but it is not a difficult job, just a big one.
NB: when you pick a good ROM you'll observe that they do not slow down with time .

With the stock rom I haven't had the slowing down experience (and I just flashed arhd so I can't comment on that), except with messaging app which is understandable since I started with very little messages and now I have almost 3k.
offtopic :This slowwing down over time reminds me of M$ operating systems but they are getting better at it.

I get the same but I thin it has to do with all the crap I install on my phone and then all that collects more crap to make my phone slower

If you don't want it to slow down, don't install any applications beyond what comes with the ROM. Simple.

Just wipe cache and dalvik every week,
And deleting some big apps will help too.
And reboot your phone in the morning. That will delete temp files
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thanks I'll try that! I figured it had something to do with cache.
stroobach said:
Just wipe cache and dalvik every week,
And deleting some big apps will help too.
And reboot your phone in the morning. That will delete temp files
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Just a thought but i got sdmaid and cachecleaner off the market. Cachecleaner got rid of a lot of useless stuff but I've seen a huge improvement in speed with sdmaid pro. Worth a shot
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mf2112 said:
If you don't want it to slow down, don't install any applications beyond what comes with the ROM. Simple.
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stroobach said:
Just wipe cache and dalvik every week,
And deleting some big apps will help too.
And reboot your phone in the morning. That will delete temp files
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this are probably the biggest reasons.

its just a general android problem. the more applications you install the slower your phone will be

billobob said:
its just a general android problem. the more applications you install the slower your phone will be
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lol windows isn't immune either

aamir123 said:
I notice that when you first flash a ROM its fast and smooth but after a few Weeks its starts allowing down. How do you fix this?
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Switch of your phone at least every 5 days... No good if phone runs non-stop.

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[Q] Rom comparison chart?

Hi,
Is there a ROM comparison chart somewhere for Nexus S?
I'm looking forward to a ROM, which is:
based on 2.3.4.
has a notification power widget.
has 3G SIP calling.
(sort of) stable.
fast.
Some nice to have features:
Lock-screen tweaks.
Battery percentage hack.
Permission management.
Any ideas?
CM7 nightly seemed to be a good choice, but it freezes time to time.
I am using infin1ty. Solid as a rock and fast too.
I think it fulfils your wish list.
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Graham19 said:
I am using infin1ty. Solid as a rock and fast too.
I think it fulfils your wish list.
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does the same for me
Graham19 said:
I am using infin1ty. Solid as a rock and fast too.
I think it fulfils your wish list.
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Thanks for the tips! I've just flashed the latest infin1ty.
There are some nice touch, like working Video Chat and a nice Battery icon, but two things bug me:
Skype crashes
Seems laggy to me a little, even laggier when CM7 nightly.
I'll keep trying it and we'll see...
Balázs
I've been running Infin1ty for a few days, upgraded to the new version this morning and really no lag on my end. Hated the battery icon so built a new one in UOT Kitchen and now it's looking good.
dlux.hu said:
[*]Skype crashes
[*]Seems laggy to me a little, even laggier when CM7 nightly.
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no idea about skype.
i played arround a bit with the cpu settings (No-frills CPU control) and voltage settings (proton) and i got a really smooth fast and stable rom. so just give it a try
I prefer CM7 never had any freezing issues.
I use with ogdobber 2.3.4 kernel
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The current CM kang coupled with morfics UV kernel is running so incredibly fast!
Not to mention I haven't experienced ANY stability issue as of yet!
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Just give them all a test ride and see which one you like best. I'm on superasop ATM and so far it's been the snappiest rom I've tried. Still not perfect though.
It has everything in your list though.
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Use benchmark in the android market.
Just to give this a bump as I'm looking for the same thing as OP but would like to know more about what everyone thinks. I m on cm7.0.3 atm and its really frustrating how it restarts out of the blue or gets into a bootloop. with the features listed by the OP, which rom is the most stable?
Good idea...
SuperAosp has been really, really good to me. I did an original wipe and reinstall a month ago, and it is has been really good and snappy ever since, even through non-wipe upgrades to ROM.
Heeter
I'm using ZuluZulu rom, fast and stable. Tried lot of cm based roms but this one is almost no random reboot like cm.
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NSCollab or ZuluGen are the best!
Heeter said:
SuperAosp has been really, really good to me. I did an original wipe and reinstall a month ago, and it is has been really good and snappy ever since, even through non-wipe upgrades to ROM.
Heeter
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I've just flashed SuperAosp. First impressions:
Really nice icons and theme.
Nice animations!
Video chat is nice, but it works only one way. I can see both myself and the called party on the phone, but the called party cannot see me on Gmail. Might not be related to the ROM, though.
ROM Manager is crashing. I can live without that app, though.
Very laggy. I expect the operating system to react immediately, but sometimes it lags for 1 sec or more when the system is busy. This is most probably due to I/O scheduling issues.
I'll probably give other ROMs a try as well.
jdevera said:
I'm using ZuluZulu rom, fast and stable. Tried lot of cm based roms but this one is almost no random reboot like cm.
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I've tested ZuluZulu: I flashed it, factory reset, set my accounts up, started to restore the Apps with Titanium Backup, and all of a sudden, it rebooted.
My first impression was that it is a pretty responsive ROM, but somehow this reboot did not make me happy.
dlux.hu said:
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I'm looking forward to a ROM, which is:
based on 2.3.4.
has a notification power widget.
has 3G SIP calling.
(sort of) stable.
fast.
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Uhm, how about stock...?
Wow, Bud,
1 sec of lag?
1 reboot?
Maybe you should just stick to stock.
Heeter
dlux.hu said:
I've tested ZuluZulu: I flashed it, factory reset, set my accounts up, started to restore the Apps with Titanium Backup, and all of a sudden, it rebooted.
My first impression was that it is a pretty responsive ROM, but somehow this reboot did not make me happy.
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Well even a stock rom gets a random reboot, just give it time. As long as a rom doesn't random hung or reboot in a call that's a keeper for me. Anyway you have your own idea on what you want in a rom. Hope you find one.
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why does my sensation feel sticky?

Since the last update the phone has played up.
I got stock rom, latest version.
Now when i use the phone its sticky when i slide through pictures or randomly unresponsive.
I only have @ 120mb free of memory when looking at settings even after i kill all processes.
Any ideas?
Dude go with android hd 3.11 definitely the fastest version
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sergeybrin said:
Don't listen to this noob. Cm7 is the best rom on sensation by a longshot
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There is no "best" ROM. It all depends on personal opinion.
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sergeybrin said:
Don't listen to this noob.
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says the guy with 19 posts....
jamiee6610 said:
Since the last update the phone has played up.
I got stock rom, latest version.
Now when i use the phone its sticky when i slide through pictures or randomly unresponsive.
I only have @ 120mb free of memory when looking at settings even after i kill all processes.
Any ideas?
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try removing any apps you don't need/use
I'd also recommend getting S-OFF/ROOT and installing a custom ROM.
There is a guide on how to do all of this in the Development section
Wasnt so intetested in rooting.
I have reset phone, and still the same? Its only been like it since last update, i guess i will have to suffer it for now?
Get an overclocking app and set it properly,if you dont have one itll run at the stock speed for that kernel
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Get an overclocking app and set it properly,if you dont have one itll run at the stock speed for that kernel
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Meaning? Could you explain a bit more please?
not to scare you, but you might be a "victim" of unresponsive screen on sensation. i'm having the same issues also. check this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1129272
Download CPU Master (its the only one that has worked on all OC kernels for me) open it>Allow root permissions>max speed (set to over 1000) >min speed (set to 192 or above)
sergeybrin said:
Don't listen to this noob. Cm7 is the best rom on sensation by a longshot
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Don't mean to be rude but that was kinda funny.
私の"DU4L C0R3 SH00T3Rは"³Dであなたを撃墜!トゥパックをねじ込みます 。
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Will putting a ROM on make this phone better?

I'm a bit unimpressed with this phone, (Sensation XE) Sense crashes often when you press the home button and goes through the process of re springing etc, If I hold the phone at the bottom cell signal disappears, if I hold it at the top wifi disappears, battery life is poor, it struggles to last a day and in general use for a phone with 1.5ghz dual core process and 768mb ram it feels sluggish for some reason, RAM is also almost full all the time even when I kill everything. I get the impression is can't handle sense 3.6, My old Desire felt much quicker, and the SGS2 blows this out of the water. I am not rooted or anything at the moment, just running ICS and 3.6, It shipped with ICS so don't know what GB was like on this device. In quadrant I can't even get 2000, most I have seen is 1900, my SGS2 gets 3200+
Would a rom make this phone better or is eBay the best option.
Fot real. Stock ICS is pretty rubbish. Stick an Anker innit and load up ARHD. If u get rid of Sense it will free up RAM. ARHD also have pption when installing to keep Launcher in Memory if RAM is maxed out.
Load up Faux, SebastianFM or, my fav, Bricked kernel to get optimized CPU processing.
This should make ur phone twice better.
Beamed from my Senny..
Stock can be a nightmare sometimes. Let it be known a few things though:
1) A new rom won't help your reception issues. Sorry
2) Quadrant scores do not reflect real-world performance and should be ignored. My Senny's faster than my friend's GNex (AOKP) and my other friend's SGSII (Stock) but the quadrant scores say otherwise.
3) The Sense launcher dying thing is always fixed when installing a custom rom. It comes from carriers (and HTC) bloating up the OS too much and the launcher being killed to keep room for applications open. Most custom roms will force the launcher in the memory, circumventing the issue.
That being said, "root it, flash it, enjoy it".
Yes! My crashing stopped never to return again after I rooted s off and installed custom rom. I am totally convinced that custom Roms can be far more stable than stock Roms! Never have I once had the restarting issue on custom rom. You will see the difference immediately.
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i couldn't go back to sense.
I'm going to be the one to go against the grain here...
If you don't like a device to begin with then I don't think a new rom will make you love it. You may find it tolerable, but in the end you will most likely be dissapointed overall.
You're best off finding a device that you really like, and then improving upon it...
Grogg is likely correct, if you don't like it now, you'll probably still be unhappy with whatever you do to it. Best to sell it and get something that makes You happy. Everyone is different with different opinions and tastes . As for me, I LOVE my device and truly enjoy modifying it in different ways. I'm very interested in this kind of thing but others might see that differently.so yes It's best just to find something you like. Good luck and hope you find something your happy with!
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Well before selling your device you loose nothing to give it a try a custom rom !
I remember i hated stock gb to death and was a little bit deceived by my purchase but i did flash a custom rom and honestly im keeping this phone until my contract ends...
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Switched to ARHD and have never looked back.
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Right I'm gonna give a custom rom a try. Is the process the same as it was on my incredible s? Htcdev install cwm then rom?
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slugger09 said:
Right I'm gonna give a custom rom a try. Is the process the same as it was on my incredible s? Htcdev install cwm then rom?
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What hboot you have ? My phone when i bought it itwas unlocked via revolutionary and already rooted ...
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Ok thought I would update this, I spent the weekend making it S-OFF and installing ORDroid 9.
The phone still feels like its struggling, Quadrant only shows slightly over 2000, the Desire HD gets higher and its single core.
WiFi reception now seems a bit better, but cell reception is still very poor, No signal most of the time at home, most other phones I've had give 2 bars min.
And battery life is still shockingly bad, 10% per hour in stand by, and in 10 mins setting it up etc I lost 10%.
Not sure what to try now, I think Sense 3.6/4 may be a factor here. The phone struggles with it.
Strange because here is my last quardent test on ordroid as you can see its in the 4,000's what kernel are you running? I'm using same Rom and look at my score? You say you scored a 2,000? This is the same Rom but twice the score? Perhaps it's the kernel? I'm running bricked kernel.no problems here in fact I'm number two in the quadrant. Not bad... [ ATTACH]1136354[/ATTACH]
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realsis said:
Strange because here is my last quardent test on ordroid as you can see its in the 4,000's [ ATTACH]1136354[/ATTACH]
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Mine did get up around there when I first installed, when I put my apps on I get around 2000 now
I have numerous apps installed on mine and it still scored number two. May I ask which kernel are you running? Maybe if you changed your kernel you might be happier? Just a thought. I'm sorry your having problems. I guess I've been lucky. So far mines been running really well. I wish I could be of more help! Maybe tweak it a bit and the performance might improve for you? Best of luck!
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realsis said:
I have numerous apps installed on mine and it still scored number two. May I ask which kernel are you running? Maybe if you changed your kernel you might be happier? Just a thought. I'm sorry your having problems. I guess I've been lucky. So far mines been running really well. I wish I could be of more help! Maybe tweak it a bit and the performance might improve for you? Best of luck!
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Don't know what Kernel I have, I didn't change anything so just whatever came with Ordroid as standard
During installation we had choices on the Aroma installer also it asked what your goal is like performance, battery saver, ext.next time during install pay close attention to what Aroma is asking you because. It gives the ability to under or over clock ext. I just used default but I choose "bad ass " bricked kernel
Aroma gives lots of options during install and you can focus on performance if you like. Hope this helps out. If you want to reinstall you can really look at the options closely and change it to help the performance. Best of luck! Have a great day!
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I like sense Idk why just gives it that..HTC look and feel I haven't had a flashed Rom respring since flashing use to get it all the time when playing high performance games etc shadowgun but on coindroid not at all
Got a notbad.jpg score it was 3178 with ordroid taptalk and music playing also on the Badass setting
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I reflashed using different settings and its running a lot better now.
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While OrDroid is a good and stable rom, it's not exactly the epitome of speed, no Sense 4 rom is. I recommend AOSP/CM9/AOKP if you're looking for speed.

How to open apps faster

There are some apps like browser, fb, tapatalk, whatsapp, etc which I use very often.
They take from 1-3 secs to open. Is there any way to keep these apps in memory, in order to open them faster? I noticed that cached apps are mostly some apos I never use. I compare it to my iPhone which opens apps immediately. Is there any solution?
Edit: don't tell me to oc, I'm asking a different thing
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What are you using for a Rom? Sense 4 Roms tend to kill background processes pretty aggressively to keep the launcher in memory.
I've noticed that if I run something like Hypernonsense Rom, apps like the ones you mentioned open much quicker than the same apps on a Sense 4 Rom. However I'm currently into Sense 4 so I'll take the extra second.
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gustav30 said:
What are you using for a Rom? Sense 4 Roms tend to kill background processes pretty aggressively to keep the launcher in memory.
I've noticed that if I run something like Hypernonsense Rom, apps like the ones you mentioned open much quicker than the same apps on a Sense 4 Rom. However I'm currently into Sense 4 so I'll take the extra second.
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Yes see my specs. I want to know if there os a way to keep desired apps in memory. The don't even consume that much memory, max 100M. I don't want to change my ROM, not my setup
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perhaps zram or swap but may end up hurting more than helping..
ziddey said:
perhaps zram or swap but may end up hurting more than helping..
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That's what I think too. How does iPhone manage to open apps so quickly?
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Zram helped when I was on Viper...
Also, Anthrax kernel was better than bricked, IMO.
CM10 is a lot better than ViperS... apps are loading faster, and things are much snappier... on default settings... try it out... but then again you seem to prefer Sense to Holo...
SleepyKrushna said:
Zram helped when I was on Viper...
Also, Anthrax kernel was better than bricked, IMO.
CM10 is a lot better than ViperS... apps are loading faster, and things are much snappier... on default settings... try it out... but then again you seem to prefer Sense to Holo...
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+1 for ZRAM in ViperS
Just wayyyy awesome, Quick access while Switching apps..No lags in Opening apps as well as App drawer..
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But Zram eats more battery ? No
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xeloni said:
But Zram eats more battery ? No
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Oui, it does eat some more battery... but it also makes the phone very snappy.....
Anyway I use DS Battery Saver (free for XDA users)... it switches off 3G on screen off... and it has loads of other options... try it.... getting awesome standby times with it...
elvisypi said:
Yes see my specs. I want to know if there os a way to keep desired apps in memory. The don't even consume that much memory, max 100M. I don't want to change my ROM, not my setup
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Download Pimp My Rom from the Play Store and go to the TOOLS tab then click on Lock Apps in Memory. You can then select which apps you want to have locked in memory.
I am just reading the sensation xe threads because I ordered it and is on the way, but currently I am using my old budget android, which had lots of lag (and one of the main reasons I actually ordered the new sensation xe).
The other day I found this thread and installed this and it is just insane at removing lag and doesn't pump up the cpu or use more battery.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1987032
The developer's reason for why it works seem to be incorrect, and other people (including android's own developers) don't know exactly why it is working either (other than it's not the reasons stated by the developer), but just about everyone agrees that whatever the reason, it does work and significantly (on any non new / top-of-the-line phone because those don't have lag anyway).
It is also available at the play store if you want auto updates and to say thank you to the awesome guy who developed it:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lcis.seeder
pwoita said:
I am just reading the sensation xe threads because I ordered it and is on the way, but currently I am using my old budget android, which had lots of lag (and one of the main reasons I actually ordered the new sensation xe).
The other day I found this thread and installed this and it is just insane at removing lag and doesn't pump up the cpu or use more battery.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1987032
The developer's reason for why it works seem to be incorrect, and other people (including android's own developers) don't know exactly why it is working either (other than it's not the reasons stated by the developer), but just about everyone agrees that whatever the reason, it does work and significantly (on any non new / top-of-the-line phone because those don't have lag anyway).
It is also available at the play store if you want auto updates and to say thank you to the awesome guy who developed it:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lcis.seeder
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It forces the CPU to stay online and not idle because it wakes it up every second, so that's probably why there's a speed increase.
pwoita said:
I am just reading the sensation xe threads because I ordered it and is on the way, but currently I am using my old budget android, which had lots of lag (and one of the main reasons I actually ordered the new sensation xe).
The other day I found this thread and installed this and it is just insane at removing lag and doesn't pump up the cpu or use more battery.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1987032
The developer's reason for why it works seem to be incorrect, and other people (including android's own developers) don't know exactly why it is working either (other than it's not the reasons stated by the developer), but just about everyone agrees that whatever the reason, it does work and significantly (on any non new / top-of-the-line phone because those don't have lag anyway).
It is also available at the play store if you want auto updates and to say thank you to the awesome guy who developed it:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lcis.seeder
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Well, actually I tried it, but fir me it makes no difference AT ALL. I think it's a placebo effect. However I must say that I don't usually notice lags with my ROM
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[POLL] - Do you use Dalvik or ART?

Just like the Title implies. I am trying to get a good idea on what runtime users perfer.
I like ART but its a batter killer and some apps are not compatible. Luckily I am not concerned about incompatible apps because I have not come across one that I use.
I would like to know what you use...
Do you prefer Art or Dalvik and why?
Everyone is encouraged to join in... Even if from another forum :highfive:
I use ART, though I'm not entirely convinced it does anything. Especially for my piece of **** device
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monkor said:
I use ART, though I'm not entirely convinced it does anything. Especially for my piece of **** device
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What device, the Sensation?
Prolly not. ART is really designed for high end devices. I dont know much about the sensation though...
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What device, the Sensation?
Prolly not. ART is really designed for high end devices. I dont know much about the sensation though...
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768MB of pure RAM and sex appeal! ART is supposed to help memory challenged devices such as mine. My Nexus 4 broke, but I definitely noticed the difference in terms of RAM savings then. On this device, I don't. You like it on the M8?
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Dalvik across all maintained devices..
Lim Wee Huat said:
Dalvik across all maintained devices..
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Cool!
monkor said:
768MB of pure RAM and sex appeal! ART is supposed to help memory challenged devices such as mine. My Nexus 4 broke, but I definitely noticed the difference in terms of RAM savings then. On this device, I don't. You like it on the M8?
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See, I thought ART was supposed to use more memory
ON the M8, which is already stupid fast... It really brought it up a notch.
The best way to describe it is that apps load almost instantly. Its like the device is clocked to 3GHZ or something... It really is that notable.
Art
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Dalvik. As others have said I've really seen no difference in performance or smoothness I haven't tested long enough to test battery. Maybe furture android versions might have better use for ART they still don't consider it fully functional I thought almost like beta phase maybe.
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Dalvik, for broader compatibility, and to be able to use Xposed Framework. Battery life is so amazing the purported gains of ART don't make it worth the loss of being able to make modifications.
My name's Harold and I'm a flashaholic....
Dalvik. Art breaks too many things, and on the 4 devices I've tried it on the speed benefits are negligible.
Dalvik, one incompatible app is one too many. Stability is always my main priority!
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I prefer ART, but I need xposed so I'm on Dalvik. I personally see better battery on ART.
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Dalvik
I'm using ART, basically because it's newer. Newer must be better!
Right?!
Anyway, I have no idea what the difference is between the two, but I actually thought ART was supposed to *improve* battery life. At least I thought I read that was one of the missions of the project.
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Just to follow up, everything I can find on the net at the moment indicates ART should/does improve battery life. It's less of a strain on the CPU so that would make sense.
Scott you know a hell of a lot more about these devices than I ever will (and probably more than most of these internet sources) so if you say it's the opposite I'd be inclined to believe you.
I just switched to ART... Been about a week and I notice that there is no more lag when opening my keyboard and no lag when swyping... Only app I see crash so far is quadrant but no biggie....
Does ART effect the kernel possibilities? I want to try faux again but don't know if it will cause a reload of everything if it breaks
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I'm not using ART because frankly on this phone it's not necessary. It's just as fast without ART as it is with it, unlike my DNA. and I use Xposed framework modules so it's a no brainer for me
I don't even have the ART option
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fireguy0306 said:
I don't even have the ART option
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I use dalvic cause I am too lazy to change over
@fireguy0306 the ART option is under < developer options/Select runtime =]
JelloB said:
Just to follow up, everything I can find on the net at the moment indicates ART should/does improve battery life. It's less of a strain on the CPU so that would make sense.
Scott you know a hell of a lot more about these devices than I ever will (and probably more than most of these internet sources) so if you say it's the opposite I'd be inclined to believe you.
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I'm far from knowing everything. I just read one article and it show battery drain statitistcs of art and dalvik on identical devices set up identically. Art drain was higher.
I dont know this test to be as all conclusive so take it with a grain of salt.
two_cents said:
I just switched to ART... Been about a week and I notice that there is no more lag when opening my keyboard and no lag when swyping... Only app I see crash so far is quadrant but no biggie....
Does ART effect the kernel possibilities? I want to try faux again but don't know if it will cause a reload of everything if it breaks
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Art should not affect kernel. But I aslo see the gians you see. The keyboard is just one. Wake time to home screen is another, launching any app is amazingly faster.
Rushing said:
I use dalvic cause I am too lazy to change over
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A man after my own heart!
The reason I ask is on my next ROM build I want to include items that I know will not be ART compatible. Such as Xposed...
So I wanted to gauge the efficacy of ART vs Dalvik on the M8.

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