As Galaxy S owners, we are all united. As Android users we are all united. As far as Samsung is concerned we are all NOT created equal. Our device, the Vibrant (SGH-T959), is now being left to the wayside for any future updates from Samsung even though our core specs are extremely similar to the Google Nexus S, which has already received the ICS update. The CyanogenMod team has left us due to the on-going issue of 911/e911 and the lack of the proper code from Samsung to alleviate a potentially fatal result of a custom ROM. It is our intentions to serve Samsung with a petition asking for the update to ICS, which will in-turn, alleviate the 911/e911 issue as well.
We are asking all Galaxy S users to sign this petition to get Samsung to reconsider giving all top end Galaxy S devices the ICS update. Please help us with our goal and sign the petition. If you are on a Galaxy S phone, this affects you too.
Thank you for reading this and please see this link for more details and this link to sign the petition.
Ok, since it was explained a bit better to me, I'm allowing this to be reopened, however, I'll be keeping an eye on it. Keep it civil.
Thank you, Ann.
thanks for the update..hope things look up !!
I plan to sign this petition, but I'm a bit confused about how it includes all SGS devices. The entire letter speaks specifically to the Vibrant. Is a new letter still being written? Or how is it being conveyed that all SGS owners are signing this?
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The issue with the 3rd paragraph about how the Vibrant was released with 2.1 and then we fought for 2.2 only to be denied GB/ICS is in there to paint the picture of how consumer support has failed. It is specific to the Vibrant but the picture is for all Galaxy S users.
The CM team portion leaving the Vibrant is a problem (911/e911) that effects us all. For some reason they just dropped ONLY the Vibrant from their supported devices list b/c of this issue.
Still, we want to thank you for your support and help with this and hopefully they will at least listen to us.
Links to Samsung Twitter/Facebook/Google+:
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- twitter.com/samsungtweets
- twitter.com/samsungmobileus
- https://twitter.com/SamsungJohn
- https://twitter.com/DigitalTrends
Facebook:
- www.facebook.com/SamsungUSA
- www.facebook.com/SamsungMobileUSA
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- https://plus.google.com/114303379611712597260/posts
let's be honest guys. Samsung did a logical thing by NOT giving us ICS update. I mean come on now.. even if they do decide to give us ICS, chances are it will be buggy as gs1 doesn't have enough memory to have ICS and TW... so really there is no point in giving us ICS, not only Samsung won't make any profit from doing this they might get flamed even more for making the phone slower buggier .. etc and
some people are saying they want stripped version of ICS on gs1 then why don't you just go buy yourself a nexus phone? Why would people buy nexus over galaxy when they're the same thing ? I could go on and rant about how samsung would have to meet terms with google, service providers and etc but ill stop here
Gingerbread from Samsung has been released. Rogers released it AGES ago.Gingerbread from AT&T has NOT been released.
your problem for Gingerbread is with AT&T. NOT SAMSUNG. Samsung released gingerbread to the carriers.
and to the post above, its not about buying an SG1 over a nexus, its about ALREADY OWNING SG1... and not enough memory for ics and touchwiz?? thats a propaganda lie. it would run fine. touchwiz consists of a launcher and a second (TW)framwork-res.apk and a few code changes to other system files. every rom has a laucher, so no loss there, wow extra 7mb framework... ohhh.. noo!
POST 3000!!!!!!
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Signed even though I don't own one. you guys should get updates too!!
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TRusselo said:
Gingerbread from Samsung has been released. Rogers released it AGES ago.Gingerbread from AT&T has NOT been released.
your problem for Gingerbread is with AT&T. NOT SAMSUNG. Samsung released gingerbread to the carriers.
and to the post above, its not about buying an SG1 over a nexus, its about ALREADY OWNING SG1... and not enough memory for ics and touchwiz?? thats a propaganda lie. it would run fine. touchwiz consists of a launcher and a second (TW)framwork-res.apk and a few code changes to other system files. every rom has a laucher, so no loss there, wow extra 7mb framework... ohhh.. noo!
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Just curious how do you know Samsung released GB to the carriers? Any sources?
EDIT: it is just me who finds big size fonts very irritating and irrelevant?
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Just curious how do you know Samsung released GB to the carriers? Any sources?
EDIT: it is just me who finds big size fonts very irritating and irrelevant?
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All carrier control the release of the updates, manufacturers create the updates for the phone, except for the Nexus line which is controlled by Google. The new exception to that might be the Verizon Nexus. The evidence is that the I-896 and I897 are the exact same phone, except one says ATT on the front.
Can someone explain this 911 issue? I mean how can you dial 911 and it won't work? IT seems like any number would work! I'm a bit confused by it, am I missing something? Thats seems like a phone being unable to dial, well Pizza hut, I dunno. It doesn't make sense.
Oh and I signed the petition.
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Can someone explain this 911 issue? I mean how can you dial 911 and it won't work? IT seems like any number would work! I'm a bit confused by it, am I missing something? Thats seems like a phone being unable to dial, well Pizza hut, I dunno. It doesn't make sense.
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I think its related to dialing 911 when u don't have any network. I mean when u don't have sim card you can still make emergency calls.
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All carrier control the release of the updates, manufacturers create the updates for the phone, except for the Nexus line which is controlled by Google. The new exception to that might be the Verizon Nexus. The evidence is that the I-896 and I897 are the exact same phone, except one says ATT on the front.
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I agree that they control it. But we don't know if Samsung actually gave it to ATT yet. Also there is no need of those kind of statements like in the post above my first post. No one is forcing him to sign the petition.
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GB update (using KIES) for captivate:
http://www.samsung.com/us/support/SupportOwnersFAQPopup.do?faq_id=FAQ00024051&fm_seq=24219
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I agree that they control it. But we don't know if Samsung actually gave it to ATT yet. Also there is no need of those kind of statements like in the post above my first post. No one is forcing him to sign the petition.
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I support this, samsung should definitely take some initiative in regards to their previous devices.
Signed!
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Just read this article:
http://androidandme.com/2010/11/pho...-s-phones-will-not-see-android-2-2-till-2011/
The Captivate is seriously the best phone I have ever owned and I purchased it the first day it became available. Now I think I should have waited a few months before shelling out $499.99. But I am getting really disappointed with Samsung and just want to sell it soon. If this is JUST 2.2, imagine Gingerbread or Honeycomb? I know that I don't have to wait for the official releases, as I'm running DG's 9.1.3 ROM, but just this lack of support from Samsung AGAIN is annoying. On top of the lack of timely software support we still have the GPS issue. I did almost all of the tricks in these forums and the GPS works when it wants to. I have to have it work all the time. I'm thinking of when these new dual-core phones come out in the coming months of just selling my beloved Captivate and getting something else that's not made by Samsung-- as the only thing I will truly miss will be the screen. At this point Samsung might as well just skip 2.2 and go straight to 2.3 but we know they won't do that. Hopefully the Nexus S turns out to have fewer issues. /rant
Who is the "we" you are referring too? I guess you are a canadian fascinate owner as that is the only model that was stated for a 2011 update to 2.2.
Seriously, you are speculating on an article that is all speculation itself and creating FUD for others.
Just out of curiosity, what froyo features are you waiting for that you want so badly?
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Just read this article:
http://androidandme.com/2010/11/pho...-s-phones-will-not-see-android-2-2-till-2011/
The Captivate is seriously the best phone I have ever owned and I purchased it the first day it became available. Now I think I should have waited a few months before shelling out $499.99. But I am getting really disappointed with Samsung and just want to sell it soon. If this is JUST 2.2, imagine Gingerbread or Honeycomb? I know that I don't have to wait for the official releases, as I'm running DG's 9.1.3 ROM, but just this lack of support from Samsung AGAIN is annoying. On top of the lack of timely software support we still have the GPS issue. I did almost all of the tricks in these forums and the GPS works when it wants to. I have to have it work all the time. I'm thinking of when these new dual-core phones come out in the coming months of just selling my beloved Captivate and getting something else that's not made by Samsung-- as the only thing I will truly miss will be the screen. At this point Samsung might as well just skip 2.2 and go straight to 2.3 but we know they won't do that. Hopefully the Nexus S turns out to have fewer issues. /rant
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Go to Twitter.com/GalaxySSupport and look at how many times they specifically say the Captivate will have Froyo by the end of the year.
From what I understand, it's ATT, not Samsung causing any delay. In any event, I'm fine with 2.1...I don't see the huge features brought by 2.2 anyway
At this point we may as well just wait for someone to cook some gingerbread.
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According to Samsung Galaxy S Support, we should have 2.2 by the end of this year.
My friend that works for AT&T says that's supposedly they are supposed to update on November 26th but like everyone else I hear dates alot and have stopped holding my breath... Im looking forward to the flash 10.1 in froyo see what more I can do with my phone online its already taken the place of my laptop for reading my morning tech blogs so I can get up and go.
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My friend that works for AT&T says that's supposedly they are supposed to update on November 26th but like everyone else I hear dates alot and have stopped holding my breath... Im looking forward to the flash 10.1 in froyo see what more I can do with my phone online its already taken the place of my laptop for reading my morning tech blogs so I can get up and go.
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Tbh I rarely use flash for anything except maybe a few engadget videos. But I do use my phone more than anything now.
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I don't understand why you're so butt-hurt. Just flash one of the 2.2 ROMs, there are plenty to choose from and they all make the phone experience 100x better.
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Just out of curiosity, what froyo features are you waiting for that you want so badly?
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angry birds...
well isnt this just dandy.... :/
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angry birds...
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You can play angry birds now on 2.1.
take this with a load of salt..
from samsungmobileus twitter on Nov 11th...."we are working on Froyo update for our US Galaxy S phones. It will be available this year. "
here is the post http://twitter.com/SamsungMobileUS/status/2818439500533760
Seriously? Another thread speculating on the froyo release date? You said it yourself... there's a whole development section that has plenty of froyo for you. If you just wanted to use the software your carrier provides, you should have gotten an iphone.
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My friend that works for AT&T says that's supposedly they are supposed to update on November 26th but like everyone else I hear dates alot and have stopped holding my breath... Im looking forward to the flash 10.1 in froyo see what more I can do with my phone online its already taken the place of my laptop for reading my morning tech blogs so I can get up and go.
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I also work at AT&T and i've heard no such date as to when the official 2.2 roll out is going to happen.
yeah if you here a date it is unofficial and subject to change at any moment, usually it will get delayed not pushed up. the att reps i have talked to are kept in the dark until the release day in most cases. the truth is that att is quite lazy.
back in september when we all thought a froyo release was coming soon i spoke to a samsung engineer who quoted "we are working on the froyo update around the clock" and "the wait should not be unusually long" well the lanuage hes used of "working around the clock" put my expectations around november. now who knows.
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Bluetooth voice dialing. Bluetooth sound quality is bad on i9000 kernels used on the captivate.
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Even when the official 2.2 update comes out, I honestly don't see myself, or a lot of the xda community switching over to it. With DG doing great work on the Cog builds and a lot of people following in his footsteps to provide us new roms, the official Samsung and ATT approved updates will always be just mediocre at best.
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Bluetooth voice dialing. Bluetooth sound quality is bad on i9000 kernels used on the captivate.
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Same here...which is why I am seriously looking at this...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=836243..If for some reason the official version doesn't come out by Thanksgiving...I'll most likely root it and flash the latest Cog rom out at that time.
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Hey forum,
Well its official...i work for at&t and woke up to an email in my outlook that samsung is waiting for the final approval before the end of the month!! It seems the release date has been changing weekly. I originally had asked the head honcho samsung telecommunications rep (whose name I will leave un said) on saturday and didn't expect such a quick response.
Well there you have it forum its on the way!! and the 2.3 rumor is false.
As I'm not suppose to leak this proprietary information....i can't help myself
Coming soon to a captivate near you!
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Is it April all ready?
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Hey forum,
Well its official...i work for at&t and woke up to an email in my outlook that samsung is waiting for the final approval before the end of the month!! It seems the release date has been changing weekly. I originally had asked the head honcho samsung telecommunications rep (whose name I will leave un said) on saturday and didn't expect such a quick response.
Well there you have it forum its on the way!! and the 2.3 rumor is false.
As I'm not suppose to leak this proprietary information....i can't help myself
Coming soon to a captivate near you!
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using XDA App
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I hope you don't mind and don't take offense to this ...but...#1 I'm not holding my breath......and really don't care to load any official release that is full of bloat ware and will most likely cause issues when downloading... #2...Have heard this un-official report of it coming soon so many times...I really won't believe till I see it...I am after all from Missouri ya know..
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Evilspawn said:
Hey forum,
Well its official...i work for at&t and woke up to an email in my outlook that samsung is waiting for the final approval before the end of the month!! It seems the release date has been changing weekly. I originally had asked the head honcho samsung telecommunications rep (whose name I will leave un said) on saturday and didn't expect such a quick response.
Well there you have it forum its on the way!! and the 2.3 rumor is false.
As I'm not suppose to leak this proprietary information....i can't help myself
Coming soon to a captivate near you!
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using XDA App
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Man, you got me all riled up and ready to update for nothin'. End of the month rumors have been floating around, thanks for the confirmation though.
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I am after all from Missouri ya know..
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Hey Mac, I doubt that many people know that Missouri is the "Show Me" state.
And no offense to EvilSpawn, in fact I appreciate that he is willing to share his experience and knowledge with us, but as a fellow Missourian, I'll have to see it to believe it.
Who really cares about gingerbread official?
We will get gingerbread in cm when that comes out
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i would think that if you could show this much, you could paste the text of the email... but even that doesn't prove anything.
After all, Samsung has always said "By the end of the year" so your email doesn't tell us anything new.
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i would think that if you could show this much, you could paste the text of the email... but even that doesn't prove anything.
After all, Samsung has always said "By the end of the year" so your email doesn't tell us anything new.
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Actually, if legit, it tells us there will be no delay. I, for one, appreciate hearing that.
No problem guys...I'm just excited hearing it from the source and not a rumor.....they usually fill us in right before so we are aware...none the less atleast it will be an official and not a buggy leak for devs to work with.....and the bloatware? Just remove it
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alphadog00 said:
i would think that if you could show this much, you could paste the text of the email... but even that doesn't prove anything.
After all, Samsung has always said "By the end of the year" so your email doesn't tell us anything new.
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This would be understood if samsung had the ok on the release...but as the email says "samsung is waiting for final approval" meaning there waiting for at&t...so samsung has no blame.
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No problem guys...I'm just excited hearing it from the source and not a rumor.....they usually fill us in right before so we are aware...none the less atleast it will be an official and not a buggy leak for devs to work with.....and the bloatware? Just remove it
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sooo just because it is official means it won't be buggy?? This is samsung we are talking about.....
Evilspawn said:
Hey forum,
Well its official...i work for at&t and woke up to an email in my outlook that samsung is waiting for the final approval before the end of the month!! It seems the release date has been changing weekly. I originally had asked the head honcho samsung telecommunications rep (whose name I will leave un said) on saturday and didn't expect such a quick response.
Well there you have it forum its on the way!! and the 2.3 rumor is false.
As I'm not suppose to leak this proprietary information....i can't help myself
Coming soon to a captivate near you!
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using XDA App
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So we will get Froyo in in the next 2.5 weeks? I'm holding you, Evilspawn, to that
Let's hope there's not some reason behind his screen name.
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atleast it will be an official and not a buggy leak for devs to work with.....and the bloatware? Just remove it
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Thats why I'm waiting for it
I would love to know which "buggy" froyo leaks people on the forums are talking about. The worst 2.2 beta that I have put on my phone is 1000 times better than the "final" builds that Samsung has put out. JH7 in particular is pure garbage (maybe not with bugs but it's features are neutered).
Bottom line, if anyone is still waiting for Froyo you deserve to wait as long as it takes them to crap out your bloated AT&T neutered froyo. I'll eat my keyboard if they put usb tether back in and don't cripple wifi tether so you have to pay for it.
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Bottom line, if anyone is still waiting for Froyo you deserve to wait as long as it takes them to crap out your bloated AT&T neutered froyo. I'll eat my keyboard if they put usb tether back in and don't cripple wifi tether so you have to pay for it.
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I, along with most people, are excited for the official release because that means source code follows shortly after. When the source code is released it means all sorts of stable roms, and tweaks to existing roms.
I really don't see why you and other people get so heated over other people wanting this released. I imagine by your attitude that you're running a custom rom. If that is the case there is no doubt you have flashed multiple beta releases of multiple roms and have had some issues along the way.
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I, along with most people, are excited for the official release because that means source code follows shortly after. When the source code is released it means all sorts of stable roms, and tweaks to existing roms.
I really don't see why you and other people get so heated over other people wanting this released. I imagine by your attitude that you're running a custom rom. If that is the case there is no doubt you have flashed multiple beta releases of multiple roms and have had some issues along the way.
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QFT
It's amazing how people are not able to see that an official release is beneficial to the custom ROM community as well.
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I, along with most people, are excited for the official release because that means source code follows shortly after. When the source code is released it means all sorts of stable roms, and tweaks to existing roms.
I really don't see why you and other people get so heated over other people wanting this released. I imagine by your attitude that you're running a custom rom. If that is the case there is no doubt you have flashed multiple beta releases of multiple roms and have had some issues along the way.
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It's really not that I have a particular disdain for the official release but honestly I'm just an end user I don't have a huge problem with a memory leak if the browser is fast and I don't care about quadrant benchmarks etc. I don't really know what those things are or what they measure. What I do care about is removed features and willful crippling of the OS. The source code just means the rom devs will need to put out a few crappy buggy versions of their roms while they try to figure out how to "fix" all the crap samsung and AT&T broke. I saw it with JH7 I don't think froyo will be any different.
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QFT
It's amazing how people are not able to see that an official release is beneficial to the custom ROM community as well.
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Thank you...that was my point
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Well I consider myself quite loyal to the Android platform and handset manufactures. Bought (and all SIM free) HTC Magic, Motorola Milestone, HTC Desire, Nexus One, Galaxy S, Nexus S.... now that's quite a bit of cash I have spent.
So, after deciding to settle with the Nexus range, as I do like the idea of getting a vanilla android OS, plus the latest and greatest updates.... As I did with the Nexus One.
Well I have two Nexus S's, one for me and one for the girlfriend.... so we are looking nearly 1000€ at the time of purchase.
Both handsets are the i9020 models... and both running 2.3.4
So, out pop's 2.3.5, and it's only for the Nexus S 4G ... well, OK I can live with that.
Now out pop's 2.3.6 ... and once again, or at least for the moment, nothing for the i9020 owners.
To me this is just simply wrong. Plain and simple. There are too many variants of the handset now, but as someone who generally buys on day of release I am expecting to the get the updates.
I can not believe I am alone in thinking this, but one thing is for sure I will be seriously debating purchasing the Nexus Prime or whatever it may be called in the end, if this is how OTA's will be handled.
Interested to see if anyone feels the same about this.
U do know that there just bug fixes for our phone .....y would u want an ota that has nothing to do wit ur phone ...
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There are plenty of bugs in 2.3.4 on i9020 .... most of the problem is Samsung firing out god knows how many variants of the handset. OK, with the Nexus One they had no choice due to supplies of the displays.
It should all be streamlined, not so fragmented.
There are important security patches in these updates too.
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There are important security patches in these updates too.
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Which would apply to the i9020 I assume. Also I guess the android source is on 2.3.6 now... so our handset will be not up to date.
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most of the problem is Samsung firing out god knows how many variants of the handset.
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This isn't unusual when you provide phones to multiple carriers.
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This isn't unusual when you provide phones to multiple carriers.
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Yeah OK, but if I pay good money for a SIM free and unlocked handset, which also is meant to be THE purest Android handset on the market, then WTF are we lagging on versions? Sure if they find a carrier specific error, shoot out an update and name it GR1234. But if the base Android platform is update I expect and so should everyone to get them.
You are incorrect on one thing. Is that Samsung has anything to do with Nexus updates. They don't, this is all Google. Another thing, the update just dropped like a week ago, and isn't even widespread to those who are getting it. Doing research also would of helped your cause in this case. Sprint has already announced on the support page that it's coming. You should read my article.. http://the-android-world.blogspot.com/2011/09/nexus-s-update-build-gwk15f-outed.html
You sound as bad as Fixxer did with the Nexus. Be patient... It just dropped, the fix was mostly intended for the voice search bug. Which not all Nexus S's had the issue.
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You are incorrect on one thing. Is that Samsung has anything to do with Nexus updates. They don't, this is all Google. Another thing, the update just dropped like a week ago, and isn't even widespread to those who are getting it. Doing research also would of helped your cause in this case. Sprint has already announced on the support page that it's coming. You should read my article.. http://the-android-world.blogspot.com/2011/09/nexus-s-update-build-gwk15f-outed.html
You sound as bad as Fixxer did with the Nexus. Be patient... It just dropped, the fix was mostly intended for the voice search bug. Which not all Nexus S's had the issue.
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OK some of your comments are valid. And I know fine well that Google provide the OTA's and not Samsung. Think you are missing my point tho... and it's as simple as this, there is fragmentation of the version numbers and functionality too... I'm not banging on about the baseband, but the actual OS...
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Yeah OK, but if I pay good money for a SIM free and unlocked handset, which also is meant to be THE purest Android handset on the market, then WTF are we lagging on versions? Sure if they find a carrier specific error, shoot out an update and name it GR1234. But if the base Android platform is update I expect and so should everyone to get them.
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2.3.4 was suppose to be the last Gingerbread release. 2.3.5 was for the Nexus S 4G because of network issues. 2.3.6 was for the versions experiencing the search popup bug. It would make sense that they are holding off releasing anything to the other Nexus variants until ICS is ready.
There are many more changes than just the major updates you see in the promo materials. 2.3.5 changed way more than just network stuff for NS4G. and 2.3.6 changes way more than just fixing the search popup bug.
It would be nice to get all the latest security patches and bug fixes from 2.3.6 on my T-Mobile Nexus S. BUT, I know resources are often stretched thin especially ahead of a major new release like Ice Cream Sandwich, so I am totally fine with Google putting their attention and resources on that rather than updating my Nexus S with some security patches and bug fixes that the average user will never notice.
Also, the cool thing about Android is, if you really really want 2.3.6 on your NS4G or T-Mo Nexus or Nexus One.... well go here http://source.android.com/source/initializing.html and follow the directions and you can download the 2.3.6 source and build it for any Nexus device.
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There are many more changes than just the major updates you see in the promo materials. 2.3.5 changed way more than just network stuff for NS4G. and 2.3.6 changes way more than just fixing the search popup bug.
It would be nice to get all the latest security patches and bug fixes from 2.3.6 on my T-Mobile Nexus S. BUT, I know resources are often stretched thin especially ahead of a major new release like Ice Cream Sandwich, so I am totally fine with Google putting their attention and resources on that rather than updating my Nexus S with some security patches and bug fixes that the average user will never notice.
Also, the cool thing about Android is, if you really really want 2.3.6 on your NS4G or T-Mo Nexus or Nexus One.... well go here http://source.android.com/source/initializing.html and follow the directions and you can download the 2.3.6 source and build it for any Nexus device.
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But do you not think that if you fork out for a vanilla android handset, that you should get every single update. If the source is on 2.3.6, I expect my vanilla handset to also be on that. I do not think it is too much to ask considering it is still sold and marketed as being the real google android phone.
I never had this problem with the Nexus One, and I sure as hell did not expect it with the Nexus S... I feel I have been short changed a little by Google.
Seriously CRYING for NOTHING. Take a breath and put the phone down. We will probably get the update soon. Chill out. And because of this you don't want another nexus? Have fun waiting for almost a year for updates.
Not crying for nothing. I just don't think it's fair.
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But do you not think that if you fork out for a vanilla android handset, that you should get every single update. If the source is on 2.3.6, I expect my vanilla handset to also be on that. I do not think it is too much to ask considering it is still sold and marketed as being the real google android phone.
I never had this problem with the Nexus One, and I sure as hell did not expect it with the Nexus S... I feel I have been short changed a little by Google.
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Ever try to compile your own ROM? It is very simple and Google has very detailed instructions. The most difficult part, if it is difficult is getting linux and your dev enviroment up and running. Then you can compile your own ROM from source which will add another dimension of fun to your phone
Life isnt fair little Guy. I'm sorry you have to live in such a terrible world where everyone has choice. Someday when you are old enough to vote you can try to elect someone who will force everyone to be identical and all own Motorola razrs. Until that day comes, we will be stuck here forced to suffer as we wait for a small bugfix update that was much needed for hardware that isn't the same as the phone we own. Keep those dreams alive squirt. Never lose hope!
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But do you not think that if you fork out for a vanilla android handset, that you should get every single update. If the source is on 2.3.6, I expect my vanilla handset to also be on that. I do not think it is too much to ask considering it is still sold and marketed as being the real google android phone.
I never had this problem with the Nexus One, and I sure as hell did not expect it with the Nexus S... I feel I have been short changed a little by Google.
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Do you cry when your girlfriend gets the OTA notification before you do? Its not fair! Why does she get it first? They activated my phone before hers!
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Rem3Dy said:
Do you cry when your girlfriend gets the OTA notification before you do? Its not fair! Why does she get it first? They activated my phone before hers!
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Wow, you really are a total prick... but then again, I guess you can not afford SIM free and are roped into a contract.
Grow some pubes.
As one person stated there are changes and bug fixes that would also benefit i9020 owners, you know, the ones who can afford to splash out cash on handsets.
Finally you jumped up little spunk stain, I've never installed via OTA, I just grab the download link and slap it on as an update.zip
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Do you cry when your girlfriend gets the OTA notification before you do? Its not fair! Why does she get it first? They activated my phone before hers!
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Wow, you really are a total prick... but then again, I guess you can not afford SIM free and are roped into a contract.
Grow some pubes.
As one person stated there are changes and bug fixes that would also benefit i9020 owners, you know, the ones who can afford to splash out cash on handsets.
Finally you jumped up little spunk stain, I've never installed via OTA, I just grab the download link and slap it on as an update.zip
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It's been entertaining gentlemen, but please take it to PM if you wish to continue.
There was only one true "nexus" phone and that was the Nexus One. Google is now bright eyed about the making money from hardware business. Expect them to fold like a house of cards to the carriers in the US.
Dems the breaks.
(this is why nobody should support cdma phones)
http://www.androidcentral.com/asus-says-bootloader-unlock-tool-coming-gps-hard-yall
so, I know I personally am absolutely 100% enraged to read about this, since we still haven't heard anything about an official ota for NS4G.
Google is ****ing up big time, and they may lose a LARGE chunk of nexus users over this. I may be one of them, too, if they can't fix this problem asap!!
Ya, it is a bit disturbing.
Well, the work week just started back up for them, so maybe we will hear something in the next couple days?
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http://www.androidcentral.com/asus-says-bootloader-unlock-tool-coming-gps-hard-yall
so, I know I personally am absolutely 100% enraged to read about this, since we still haven't heard anything about an official ota for NS4G.
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Sprint says we'll be "among the first" to updates, not "the first".
hp420 said:
Google is ****ing up big time, and they may lose a LARGE chunk of nexus users over this. I may be one of them, too, if they can't fix this problem asap!!
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I'd be amazed if this is Google's doing.
Sprint's website says "It runs Android™ 2.3 (Gingerbread) the latest version of Android for smartphones." They're the ones that are clueopenic, not Google.
Don't get me wrong: I'm plenty annoyed at not getting OTA ICS. It's just that I don't actually expect Sprint to live up to their promises, since this is not something they've ever tended to do in the past. Sprint users go through this with every software update for every platform on every phone.
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Sprint says we'll be "among the first" to updates, not "the first".
I'd be amazed if this is Google's doing.
Sprint's website says "It runs Android™ 2.3 (Gingerbread) the latest version of Android for smartphones." They're the ones that are clueopenic, not Google.
Don't get me wrong: I'm plenty annoyed at not getting OTA ICS. It's just that I don't actually expect Sprint to live up to their promises, since this is not something they've ever tended to do in the past. Sprint users go through this with every software update for every platform on every phone.
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The update does come directly from Google. Sprint works with Samsung to create proprietary hardware drivers that contain everything you need to access Sprint's cell phone network. These drivers are then made available in binary only form to Google. Google then adds these drivers to their official build. The final product is then delivered directly from Google to your Nexus S 4G phone.
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this quote came from sprint community forums. http://community.sprint.com/baw/message/380145#380145
Sprint does NOT provide our update...google does. Google is falling behind, and they need to be held accountable for their screw-ups. Just because they didn't say "NS4G will be the first" does not make it acceptable for 3rd parties to get an update before they can even get off their lazy asses just to push a button for their OFFICIAL FIRST-PARTY USERS. Everything we need is on their server for download, and if devs here can get off their asses top compile this rom, google sure as hell can do the same!!!
No. Google is waiting on Sprint, not the other way around.
In addition to providing CDMA drivers, Sprint has to approve the final package that is pushed, and they haven't yet done that.
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No. Google is waiting on Sprint, not the other way around.
In addition to providing CDMA drivers, Sprint has to approve the final package that is pushed, and they haven't yet done that.
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Source or GTFO. And we've already got the drivers, I'm using ICS on my NS4G right now. 4g and everything.
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No. Google is waiting on Sprint, not the other way around.
In addition to providing CDMA drivers, Sprint has to approve the final package that is pushed, and they haven't yet done that.
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lol...is that why every single file needed to build a FULL ics rom is already on the server??
I'm not saying you're wrong, but in my opinion, it does not look like it's sprint's fault. It looks like Google is either lazy about releasing it, or they are too dumb to build a rom that's working properly so it's stuck in pre-release testing. However, this is just my opinion....but as far as actually building/releasing the OTA, that is 100% on google's end. whether or not the authorization is coming/has to come from sprint is another story entirely....the point is, if that is the case, google isn't doing their jobs and telling them to screw themselves so they don't look like the bad guy in this!! It's not sprint who will have the damaged reputation after this is all said & done.
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Source or GTFO. And we've already got the drivers, I'm using ICS on my NS4G right now. 4g and everything.
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<shrug> it's the way it's always worked.
This worked in our favor earlier when Sprint okayed deployment of Google Wallet on our devices and GSM users were foaming at the mouth to get it. In those cases, too, it wasn't Google (which has excellent reasons for getting Wallet into as many hands as possible) but the carriers which held up release.
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lol...is that why every single file needed to build a FULL ics rom is already on the server??
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No.
What is the connection between having all the files on the server and Sprint's approval of a final release version?
In your earlier quote lifted from another site, the poster was saying the updates are pushed from Google's servers, not Sprints. That's correct. However, they can't just start pushing updates without carrier approval. This is why, for example, T-Mobile got ICS before ATT.
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<shrug> it's the way it's always worked.
This worked in our favor earlier when Sprint okayed deployment of Google Wallet on our devices and GSM users were foaming at the mouth to get it. In those cases, too, it wasn't Google (which has excellent reasons for getting Wallet into as many hands as possible) but the carriers which held up release.
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No.
What is the connection between having all the files on the server and Sprint's approval of a final release version?
In your earlier quote lifted from another site, the poster was saying the updates are pushed from Google's servers, not Sprints. That's correct. However, they can't just start pushing updates without carrier approval. This is why, for example, T-Mobile got ICS before ATT.
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that was a result of carriers' investment in other companies that developed very similar software to google wallet....exactly the same as when the GN was delayed for verizon because google wanted wallet on their official device and verizon had a coronary about it because they had already backed another company's software that does exactly the same thing.
as for carrier approval, google can only wait so long before they just snap and push the update anyway. carriers can not make the rest of the world wait for an update just because they don't want it released to their devices yet. Google needs to just ***** slap sprint, tell them to shut the hell up, and push the update before this damages their reputation any more than it already has. Like I said, it won't be sprint whose rep is damaged from all of this, just like no one looks towards verizon for the GN delay...the world will blame google, and they aren't even standing up for themselves.
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lol...is that why every single file needed to build a FULL ics rom is already on the server??
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Sure, they could build ICS for the NS4G but the 4G radio wouldn't work. Drivers aren't part of AOSP.
Also, didn't Google pulled the ICS update for the (tmobile) Nexus S? If that's still true, they're clearly working out the issues with ICS before releasing it to the NS4G, etc.
It is most likely *not* Googles doing. I don't know where half of you get these crack pot ideas from that Google or any other OEM is in control over how and when they push an update.
- OEM builds ROM
- OEM submits ROM to carriers (i.e. Sprint branded phone would require Sprint to approve the update).
Carriers can be total dicks about updates and providing OTA. I've seen it all first hand from when I had a Motorola Milestone (Motorola telling us the 2.1 has been built and has gone through testing but they are waiting for carriers to approve them on their networks) we had to waiting months for the updates due to some carriers.
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Sure, they could build ICS for the NS4G but the 4G radio wouldn't work. Drivers aren't part of AOSP.
Also, didn't Google pulled the ICS update for the (tmobile) Nexus S? If that's still true, they're clearly working out the issues with ICS before releasing it to the NS4G, etc.
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Driver binaries are on Google's servers for nexus devices. 100% built from source and 4g works just fine.....
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we are waiting for sprint to approve the new radio that will come with the ota. That is what causes the holdup.
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maybe Google is still fixing what does not go to ics now and then....maybe xD we can see ics on all nexus ^^
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that was a result of carriers' investment in other companies that developed very similar software to google wallet...
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Precisely. I'm glad you finally see my point that Google can't just push out an update because they want to, but are hampered by needing carrier approval.
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carriers can not make the rest of the world wait for an update just because they don't want it released to their devices yet.
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When did this start being true?
It's absolutely true that carriers CAN prevent official release of an update for any reason, or for no reason. They've done it many times before and they'll do it again. Sprint has a long track record of doing exactly this.
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Google needs to just ***** slap sprint, tell them to shut the hell up, and push the update
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You have an awfully lot to learn about how contracts work.
If I run a massive business and another massive business violates my contract with them (for example, pushes an unapproved update to what I think of as "my" devices irrespective of the beliefs or desires of my subscribers), many lawyers are going to be fed and I will expect a massive transfer of assets from that other company to mine.
mstevens is dead on. Sprint will not allow the push of an ota until they can be sure this update won't toast peoples phones, and for the people in the world that have a nxs4g and don't do modding, if the update is broken, they can't just fix what Google's update did. My brother has the GSM version, and received the update, and honestly were not missing anything. The user made roms are already becoming superior builds anyway. We will eventually get the update, I for one am glad sprint said no at the moment though, I would hate to waste my time on a broken ota lol
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lol...too many people to quote you all, so I'm gonna do my best to answer everyone
Ok, I understand how contracts work. My point is this: yes, google has a contract with sprint (or any other carrier, for that matter) to provide radios, wimax drivers, what-have-you, and I understand that if sprint won't sign, there's not much the manufacturer can do...I get that. But my biggest concern with all of this is that google is not flexing their muscles. They have made a guarantee to their customers (not explicit, but still implied) that they would provide ALL NEXUS UPDATES in a timely manner. Sprint is now holding google back from seeing this implied promise carried through, and the fact that other manufacturers are already pushing full ota updates now makes google look bad (grounds for a lawsuit).
I understand that if google were to break that contract by circumventing sprint by releasing the update anyway, they could be sued...I get that. However, google could also counter-sue for making customers wait an unreasonable amount of time for an update that is, by all rights, a "god-given right" to all nexus users prior to anyone else getting it.
Now let's talk about how many people use an NS4G to develop software that they get paid top develop. By sprint not releasing an official update, they are now inhibiting developers from doing business, and therefore they are taking money out of people's pockets. Yes, I know this last example is far-fetched a little bit, but honestly, it's really not all that far off. Yeah, people can just compile aosp themselves, and if they are truly developers, they should know how to do that....but let's say they are working on one particular app that is exclusive for sprint users, and they want to make sure it will run properly on sprint's network via an ICS handset....oh, wait...they can't because sprint are a bunch of lazy pieces of **** who won't sign. This is grounds for class-action, IMHO.
I may not be a lawyer, but it's blatantly obvious to me that if sprint holds out long enough, they are absolutely 100% vulnerable to class-action suits...and maybe even a suit from google, as well. Let's face it, no one but sprint & google execs really know the terms of the contract, but for all we know, it IS in the contract to provide timely updates. If this is the case, I hope someone gets sued like a SOB for this delay, because it's unacceptable!!!!!
hp420 said:
Google is ****ing up big time, and they may lose a LARGE chunk of nexus users over this. I may be one of them, too, if they can't fix this problem asap!!
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I suggest that this LARGE chunk of nexus users may be better served by one of the many other smartphone mfrs who provided a pure ICS update (i.e. no BS extra UI layer and no bloat) over the holiday. Which one will you choose? Oh, wait.
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I hope someone gets sued like a SOB for this delay, because it's unacceptable!!!!!
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Really. You want a lawsuit, because a bunch of software developers wouldn't work at your whim over the nation's biggest holiday?
The111 said:
I suggest that this LARGE chunk of nexus users may be better served by one of the many other smartphone mfrs who provided a pure ICS update (i.e. no BS extra UI layer and no bloat) over the holiday. Which one will you choose? Oh, wait.
Really. You want a lawsuit, because a bunch of software developers wouldn't work at your whim over the nation's biggest holiday?
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actually, since the drivers, kernel, etc. was all pushed to google's update servers WELL over a week before christmas, they wouldn't have been working during the holiday at all to get it pushed to NS4g...they just had to click a few buttons....something I've done a few hundred thousand times in the last 5 minutes.
BTW, no need to be a smartass about it. if I want to switch from nexus to get a pure android ui, I can always just root and modify the ota to have a stock theme. So now what do you have to say about that, smartass??? Oh wait...
tool.
hp420 said:
actually, since the drivers, kernel, etc. was all pushed to google's update servers WELL over a week before christmas, they wouldn't have been working during the holiday at all to get it pushed to NS4g...they just had to click a few buttons....something I've done a few hundred thousand times in the last 5 minutes.
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You're making multiple assumptions. You assume that by the existence of particular source files on a particular server, you know what Google's stance as to the public release candidacy of a compiled package is. Please explain why you believe this. There are only two ways we could know such a thing:
1) Google publicly declares it (i.e. this compiled package IS ready for public use... or vice versa)
2) Google actually pushes the compiled package (in the absence of such an action, the logical assumption to make is that they are not ready to do such a thing yet, for their own reasons... i.e. there is still something else they need to do. NOT that they are "too lazy/stupid to push a few buttons")
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BTW, no need to be a smartass about it. if I want to switch from nexus to get a pure android ui, I can always just root and modify the ota to have a stock theme. So now what do you have to say about that, smartass??? Oh wait...
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You're right, the sarcasm is 100% optional. It's an option that I quite enjoy though. I won't, however, stoop to personal attacks.
How about this. Sarcasm removed for you, I will ask the question that was clearly evident in my last post. If you decide to "leave Google" because of your discontent, which handset vendor will you turn to? Who do you believe is a better option? Who will give you a pure Android update in a shorter timespan? I am genuinely (no sarcasm) interested!
So I had a chat with someone from Samsung, Tried to gather up all the problems everyone is having with unresponsiveness and the overall firmware being laggy. This Asshole pushes me forward into just telling me that theres issues with my phone.
Chat Information Please wait for a Samsung Agent to respond.
Chat Information You are now chatting with 'Phillips'. There will be a brief survey at the end of our chat to share feedback on my performance today.
Chat Information Your Issue ID for this chat is LTK5640680671X
Phillips: Hi, thank you for contacting Samsung Technical Support. How may I help you today?
Visitor: hello
Phillips: Hello, please go ahead with your inquiry.
Visitor: I was able to obtain the Gingerbread update for my Samsung Infuse 4G and Updated the firmware February 1st when it first came out and I'm noticing things like my touchscreen being unresponsive and the overall software being laggy. I heard they pulled the Update for fixing, but those of us who already updated will there be a fix for those who already updated?
Phillips: I am sorry to know that, I will be more than glad to assist you.
Phillips: I understand that you are experiencing issues with the Infuse phone after you have updated the phone software to Gingerbread. Is that correct?
Visitor: After doing the Update on February 1st I proceeded on deleting all cache and data and doing the Factory Reset thinking it would help perform better after the update, this is my 2nd week running the software and I'm just overall unhappy with it.
Phillips: I apologize for the inconvenience.
Phillips: Thank you for confirming.
Phillips: Just to know, did the issue start after installing any specific application on the phone?
Visitor: Nope! I noticed it right after the update with no apps installed on the phone, If the phone is lying flat on a surface it normally won't swipe when I run my finger across the screen, it just don't respond to my touch. it works a little better when the phone is held in a upright posistion.
Phillips: Okay.
Phillips: I see that you have tried with all possible troubleshooting steps and even restored the phone to factory settings to fix the issue with phone performance.
Visitor: Yes! Even done battery pulls.
Phillips: I suspect issue with phone itself and it requires a physical diagnosis to fix the issue with phone.
Visitor: I just got this phone 2 weeks ago, Brand new Refurb.
Phillips: As you are saying the phone is new, I suggest you contact place of purchase for assistance.
Phillips: However, you can contact our voice team for further assistance.
Phillips: You can contact our voice support at 1-888-987-4357, Mon-Fri: 7 AM - 9 PM (CST), Sat: 9 AM - 6 PM (CST).
Visitor: I just wanna know if those who already updated with the bad Update, will they receieve a Patch fix to fix the buggy problems with the OS firmware.
Phillips: As you have tried with possible troubleshooting steps, I have provided you with the contact details to reach our voice team for sending in the phone for service.
Phillips: No, many of our customers are using the phone without any issues even after updating the phone software to Gingerbread.
Phillips: Please do not worry, I suspect issue with the phone itself. Once you contact our voice team they will be glad to assist you further with the issue.
Bottom Line is.........The only issue there fixing with it is those who couldn't update it in the first place which was something contained in the Official Update that blocked Kies Mini from Updating your phone. What we have is what we have folks, a piece of **** bugged firmware. Case Closed!
Final Words: Phillips: No, many of our customers are using the phone without any issues even after updating the phone software to Gingerbread.
dang,from now on i will be buying unbloated,unlocked international phones.glad i didnt update!! but i guess you can still get back to froyo? after the gingerdeath downgrade..
all this is supposedly what is holding up source code release too. already harrased the osrc till I got a human responce and they claim the holdup has to do with putting tthe update on hold. this is horse **** being that the sorces are supposed to be released simultaneously. the Rogers release was actually before the phone hit the shelves in Canada.
well as I've said many time...my Infuse 4g runs excellent on Stock GB.
I use an alternative launcher so maybe that's it.
I agree... the update was ****, worse gb update of all the galaxy phones... Samsung coulda kept that one to theirselves.... the leak was better with some tweaking
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Dani897 said:
all this is supposedly what is holding up source code release too. already harrased the osrc till I got a human responce and they claim the holdup has to do with putting tthe update on hold. this is horse **** being that the sorces are supposed to be released simultaneously. the Rogers release was actually before the phone hit the shelves in Canada.
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How and who do you contact to get the source code released? I would be more than happy to help harass whoever to get this released. If you point me in the right direction on this i would be glad to help.
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right next to the froyo source code there is an email link, it says if you don't have a responce in 24 hours to try again so I was sending daily emails. but the official standing now is that they will wait till it gets re-released.
Ok, good to know. Thanks
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the op still has a hard on about screen troubles lol never seen this and i do think he is the only one i see complaining about it lol
i think he has baked himself to much
CheesyNutz said:
the op still has a hard on about screen troubles lol never seen this and i do think he is the only one i see complaining about it lol
i think he has baked himself to much
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Haha! Was at work sorry. I was just going thru some threads and just asked in general if there would be any fixes to the official, the answer. Is No! There fixing nothing with the official besides getting it unblocked so others can have the update which is well not worth it after hearing this.
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dman3285 said:
I agree... the update was ****, worse gb update of all the galaxy phones... Samsung coulda kept that one to theirselves.... the leak was better with some tweaking
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Very well agreed, as far as your Zeus rom their is really nothing more that can be done to improve the performance, It's a done deal.
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The day the update came out I asked them about source. I JUST got a reply back. Here it is:
HTML:
[SAMSUNG OSRC COMMENTS DELIVERY NOTIFICATION]
♦ classification : Mobile Phone ♦
♦ model name : SGH-I997 ♦
Dear Customer,
Thank you for your continuous interest in our product.
Support of updated firmware(I997) is stoppped now.
We will publish source code when supporting firmware recommence.
Please accept our apology for not being able to handle your request up to your satisfaction.
Thank you!
Sincerely yours,
You may find the source code
Select URL below to evaluate satisfaction for our reply.
https://opensource.samsung.com/satisfaction/mail_satisfaction.do?mailId=C89311F34383ED66704D76E0C21D829958468DD5
It's like the people from chat are replying to this too. Haha.
I wonder if we can figure out why the UCKL2 update causes problems on some Infuse phones but not others. I installed UCKL2 (via Odin, after the official download was pulled) and it's been working great. No screen-responsiveness problems, whether the phone is upright or horizontal. (And I've finally got Skype videochat using the front camera.)
Have you tried the *#0*# test of the touchscreen? Does it pass?
Axiomkid said:
Very well agreed, as far as your Zeus rom their is really nothing more that can be done to improve the performance, It's a done deal.
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There are some good roms by good devs for the infuse. We are lucky we have that. I would be extremely pissed if i had just bought the phone and left it completely stock because of Samsungs ****ty software for it. They could of done a lot more with this phone than what they have.
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There are some good roms by good devs for the infuse. We are lucky we have that. I would be extremely pissed if i had just bought the phone and left it completely stock because of Samsungs ****ty software for it. They could of done a lot more with this phone than what they have.
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They chose not to and your absolutely right. They knew gingerbread was over past due for the Infuse, they spent less time figuring ways for us to run ICS, but wasted a lot of time updating us to old firmware that they already knew was buggy as hell and there's a ****load of extras gone and vanished. No root option, and etc. They totally ****ed the phone up. It's being sold for so cheap due to its ****ty features and no rooting options. Samsung you Fail! What you gonna do next cripple the firmware on the Skyrocket so ppl can't root?
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They chose not to and your absolutely right. They knew gingerbread was over past due for the Infuse, they spent less time figuring ways for us to run ICS, but wasted a lot of time updating us to old firmware that they already knew was buggy as hell and there's a ****load of extras gone and vanished. No root option, and etc. They totally ****ed the phone up. It's being sold for so cheap due to its ****ty features and no rooting options. Samsung you Fail! What you gonna do next cripple the firmware on the Skyrocket so ppl can't root?
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Which is why I'll never have a non-Google Android phone. I've put my Infuse away... for good I think. I'll stick with my Nexus S now. Stock GB and AOSP ICS is faster and smoother than any ROM on my Infuse.
Just to let people know its not an isolated problem let me say I too have had response and lag issues since the update.
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That would be negative on it being final.... lo and behold UCKB1....
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Edit..UCLB1
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dman3285 said:
That would be negative on it being final.... lo and behold UCKB1....
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Haha totally called L2 not being the official official