Hello all, i rooted my tab today. Installed Superuser, Set CPU and Titanium backup. I froze a few of the pre loaded Samsung apps that came with the Tab. What other things can i do to speed up performance now that i am rooted? Any suggestions?? Thanks!
(Also if anyone else is currently using Set CPU on their Tab7 +, what settings work well for you? )
decaffviper17 said:
(Also if anyone else is currently using Set CPU on their Tab7 +, what settings work well for you? )
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Which model? (There are at least 4 different ones.) Are you willing to give up battery life for that speed? What do you want to use your tablet for?
garyd9 said:
Which model? (There are at least 4 different ones.) Are you willing to give up battery life for that speed? What do you want to use your tablet for?
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I have the Wi-Fi_GT-P6210. I guess my main issue with Set CPU is what are the limits i can go to without locking up the device. I have Set Cpu on my EVO 4g so i am familiar with it. I guess i was just seeing what advantages rooting gives me. I have my EVO rooted so i know the benefits on my phone, but what about the TAB. What apps can i remove without effecting performance. Thanks
If you want to overclock or undervolt, you'll need a custom kernel (see my sig.) At that point, you can OC to 1.4GHz. (I didn't include support for 1.6GHz has the processor in my own 7+ wouldn't stay stable at that speed, so I can't test it properly - it was also extremely easy for me to only add 1.4.) For voltages, you are also kind of going to have to experiment. I'm stable with 1300/1225/1125/1025/950/900 on my tab plus, but I can go much lower on my SGSII (which has the same processor.) You can search on the SGH-i9100 and SGH-i777 subforums for what other people have done with voltages.
As for which apps can be safely frozen, there's a post or two on that from a couple months back... I'd suggest searching for the full list. Nearly anything that looks like bloat really is.
I'd never suggest actually removing stuff - much better to just freeze it... then if you figure out that you really needed it, it's trivial to defrost it.
Good luck
Gary
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Just a quick question for you guys: I recently purchased an Infuse from the marketplace here, and so far I've gotten an absolute TON of lag using the device. I've flashed Infused 1.5 and Bionix with the Infusion kernel, and so far the lag has gotten better, but it's not totally cleared up. I'm definitely not new to Android, but I haven't seen anything like this before. I know that Quadrant isn't a reliable benchmark, but I'm scoring about 1900, OCed to 1.5Ghz.
Just to give an example: I'm using desktop visualizer to add some custom icons to my screen. When I go to select an icon image, it's fine, but it freezes for about 90 seconds when a list of my apps comes up.
Anyone experience this before? And if so, how did you solve it? If this was widespread, I'd imagine there would be complaints all over here.
Which app are you using to set your overclock settings, how many clock speeds do you have enabled, are you under or over volting, and *which governor* are you running?
I have seen some similar problems here when I was using conservative governor with poor choices of clock speed. Right now Infusion 1.5.2 kernel has some issues with not liking the ondemand governor, so I reduced my number of available clock speeds so it would jump to the top more quickly while using the conservative governor.
Also, did you use either the return to stock, or the ultimate unbrick flash before you flashed your ROM? If it was a used Infuse, I would do one of the above before I start looking anywhere else, then reflash your rom/kernel of choice.
I'm using SetCPU with the OnDemand gov (400/1500), no undervolting. I have a profile set to underclock it to 300/700 on conservative when I'm charging, but that's about it.
I think I'm going to use GTG's unbrick/return to stock and root the thing myself, I figured I'd ask before I did anything drastic. My UI is a ***** to set up every time, and I hate wiping because of it.
Just a quick note, I've had some serious lag using the oc kernel... Like real world usage got worse after oc'ing
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Although it is counter intuitive to the way governors should work I have seen less lag on Infusion 1.5.2 when I use conservative. The ondemand governor seems to be having some issues with the most recent update. If you flash back to 1.0 Infusion you get a max overclock of 1.4, but it is much more stable IMHO. Also FFC is presently broken in 1.5.2 and will hard freeze the phone (battery pull).
I'm debating flashing back to community kernel, but I am going to wait and see how long it takes my battery to drain because I am using some undervolting. You might try using conservative governor and only enable 100, 400, (800 or 1000), (1200 or 1300) and 1500. Honestly the infuse is my first smartphone, but I've tinkered with desktop hardware the last 15 years. It literally amazes me everytime I pull the battery out of this phone and feel how light it is.
I also used the desktop vis app and yes it lagged when chosing apps however it seemed to get better after three or four times but that seems to be the only place it lags for me im using the oc-uv kernal 1.0 clocked to 1.4 seems bulletproof compared to later versions im getting great speed and batt life with this kernal but i had the same lag in the same event as you
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I'm going to try bringing it back to stock and re-rooting it myself, if only because I trust myself with adb//scripts/rooting, and I'm hesitant to trust someone I don't know. Lag has gotten a lot better since switching to conservative, OCing to 1.6 and undervolting a tad, but it still lags when opening apps or scrolling through long lists. Desktop Vis is of course, still a nightmare.
Oh well, I'll report my findings tomorrow I guess. Hopefully I'll be scoring higher than the 1700 I just pulled in quadrant.
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I'm going to try bringing it back to stock and re-rooting it myself, if only because I trust myself with adb//scripts/rooting, and I'm hesitant to trust someone I don't know. Lag has gotten a lot better since switching to conservative, OCing to 1.6 and undervolting a tad, but it still lags when opening apps or scrolling through long lists. Desktop Vis is of course, still a nightmare.
Oh well, I'll report my findings tomorrow I guess. Hopefully I'll be scoring higher than the 1700 I just pulled in quadrant.
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Do you use spareparts?
usually yes, but I dont believe I installed it yet on the infuse. Why?
lag on stock also
I'm 100% stock & get lag also. Definitely in the situation you describe, when the app list comes up for adding shortcuts to any homescreen. Takes forever for that list to come up. Secondly, simply from running for a while, i have to kill all the apps using the built in task manager in order to get it to run smoothly again. It's like it never closes an app. I'm new to android, but guessing this is a problem inherit to android. Can't see how samsung or at&t could have screwed this soo badly to cause it to never close an app. Hoping memory management is better in Gingerbread.
Blario, you're new to Android, so you need to read up on how memory management works with Android. It's not SUPPOSED to kill apps, and that's not what's lagging your phone. In your case, I'd think it was more of a case of WHICH apps you were running.
yeah, the longer I have the phone the more it lags it seems
probably going to push me towards the Evo3D
If you're on stock and after a week or two your phone gets slow as hell (mine did), install a Voodoo lagfix kernel. All the current ROMs include it.
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If you're on stock and after a week or two your phone gets slow as hell (mine did), install a Voodoo lagfix kernel. All the current ROMs include it.
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I did
I still have random slow downs when it gets bogged down with stuff
I'd give a left nut to have this phone with dual core
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Blario, you're new to Android, so you need to read up on how memory management works with Android. It's not SUPPOSED to kill apps, and that's not what's lagging your phone. In your case, I'd think it was more of a case of WHICH apps you were running.
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I don't do much. Twitter, "Web" (some mozilla stock ish), SMS, phone, Android Market app (browsing), and Maps. I've had it lag up using only those. Far less often, I use Yelp... that's about it.
Not supposed to kill apps? When I kill them it fixes the problem. Maybe it *should* be killing apps?? If its supposed to flush their state to disk... it seems to be doing a poor job at it.
I would be suspicious of your microSD card (if you have one). Do you know what class it is? Have you tried removing it and performing the same functions in which you see lag?
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I did
I still have random slow downs when it gets bogged down with stuff
I'd give a left nut to have this phone with dual core
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I'd more readily assume the 512MB RAM is the issue. Looking forward to SGSII
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I would be suspicious of your microSD card (if you have one). Do you know what class it is? Have you tried removing it and performing the same functions in which you see lag?
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It's the stock card that came with the phone. Any way to check? The apps are installed to it... so removing it I wouldn't have the apps available anymore.
A little update: I returned back to stock and re-rooted. I installed 3E, then CWM, then threw on Infused 1.5 and Infusion, OCed to 1.6Ghz and slightly undervolted (about 25-100mv along the range) using SetCPU.
As of right now, it still lags on occasion, but not as bad as it did. Quadrant is giving me a whopping 1300 average score, with a low of 800 and a high of 1600. This is just pathetic.
Howdy folks. Could someone point me in the right direction? Thinking about overclocking but have not done it. What are the benefits / rewards?
Is there an app or program i can to do this?
And what is a safe range?
Thanks in advance!
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Benefits : Faster phone, smoother ui
Cons: Phone may heat up if overclock is set too high
For this phone 1500 is the highest, safest number we can get to right now. I would suggest setCPU, which you can find on XDA for free. (search setCPU)
You'll need a new kernel first, the stock one doesn't support oc. Go with Faux's assuming you're running a rom compatible with it (and most are).
After that, download Pimp My CPU from the market and you're good to go.
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To be honest with you, I notice hardly, if any, real-world phone speed increase when I overclock...barring benchmark numbers. I'm not really sure why that's the case for me, and why for some others it's such an extremely obvious difference (or so they claim). Perhaps I'm not running the same cpu intensive apps that they run. But for general, day to day, running of my phone, it's just not worth it for me due to the battery cost.
So I would love to hear from some of you where "precisely" do you see such a marked improvement on the speed of your phone?
Well, first off, make sure you have a custom Recovery installed... Then find a ROM you'd like, and then, flash a custom OC Kernel..
You'll need an app such as SetCPU to control the overclock.
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To be honest with you, I notice hardly, if any, real-world phone speed increase when I overclock...barring benchmark numbers. I'm not really sure why that's the case for me, and why for some others it's such an extremely obvious difference (or so they claim). Perhaps I'm not running the same cpu intensive apps that they run. But for general, day to day, running of my phone, it's just not worth it for me due to the battery cost.
So I would love to hear from some of you where "precisely" do you see such a marked improvement on the speed of your phone?
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Are you using the stock launcher? It's alot smoother with the stock launcher if OCed to 1500, although i don't notice a difference from 800 to 1500 on launcher pro.
Hi,
this may be a stupid question but I'm owner of a xoom for 1 week now (got it pretty cheap on amazon cyber monday) and am actually quite fond of it. To my question:
I'm actually quite surprised by the user experience on 3.2, it's very responsive and fast so I'm asking myself if rooting is even necessary? Also looking in advance to the official release of ICS, which is supposed to come pretty quick for the xoom.
Is it worth it? If yes, which ROM would you recommend?
Thanks!
overclocking is worth it. most of us run rock solid @1.5
not to mention all the other things you can do...
I agree, rooting and using custom roms and kernels adds lots of functions that you otherwise wouldn't have, like being able to write to the micro sdcard and using usb host mode.
I love the setup in my signature and highly recommend it.
There is the expected ICS update, but I think it's still months away. Our developers are working on ports of ICS as we speak, so chances are that we might have it in a custom rom before the Xoom gets the OTA update.
Then that's settled. Thank's for the help guys!
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I agree, rooting and using custom roms and kernels adds lots of functions that you otherwise wouldn't have, like being able to write to the micro sdcard and using usb host mode.
I love the setup in my signature and highly recommend it.
There is the expected ICS update, but I think it's still months away. Our developers are working on ports of ICS as we speak, so chances are that we might have it in a custom rom before the Xoom gets the OTA update.
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hi okantomi,
i use rooted xoom but i dont do overclock due to battery drainage. Is it true that more you overclock the device more your battery drains? I am confused. I want to overclock and again want to save battery. what can i do? plz help.
raihankabir_1 said:
hi okantomi,
i use rooted xoom but i dont do overclock due to battery drainage. Is it true that more you overclock the device more your battery drains? I am confused. I want to overclock and again want to save battery. what can i do? plz help.
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yup OC = more battery usage.
if you OC with setcpu you can use profiles and set the clockspped to batt level,temp...
Profiles work really well to save battery under certain scenarios, also you can undervolt a bit to save battery...you will have to experiment a bit with that though, too much undervolting won't support the clock speed you have it set at...(do you follow?)...there have been a couple of good threads on this topic.
Hello,
I just installed the ressurection remix 1.5 rom, in combination with Thoravukk kernel, and i set my cpu to 1.6 ghz.
Set it at boot, and rebooted the device.
I'm really impressed about the boot speed, and overall smooth scrolling etcetera.
My question is, is there something else i need to do to keep it stable, or change other settings, like voltage, gpu, ram or anything else?
Because i'm really happy with the changes it's given me, but i don't want problems in a while.
Batterylife is not an issue, i don't expect it to last as long as it did on 1.2 ghz
Looking forward to information.
If i don't need to do anything else, i would like to know as well.
Thank you
Lost in space xD
Can any one help me with some info on where can I download the Thoravukk kernel. I've entered around 3 or 4 (including the official team blockbuster) sites and I don't see any download links
Why do you have it overclocked to 1.6? is there even a difference in performance? The phone's so powerful already lol, you could UV for better battery life, increase gpu for performance (in games) I don't think you need more Ram, I have the OG epic 4g and I have plenty lol
As far as stable, pushing your processor may create problems that you won't necessarily see at stock frequency, you get what ask for.
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Why do you have it overclocked to 1.6? is there even a difference in performance? The phone's so powerful already lol, you could UV for better battery life, increase gpu for performance (in games) I don't think you need more Ram, I have the OG epic 4g and I have plenty lol
As far as stable, pushing your processor may create problems that you won't necessarily see at stock frequency, you get what ask for.
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Exactly what I had in mind
The Note is plenty powerful even amongst the current crop of droids. And no app requires a dual-core 1.6Gghz. The stock frequencies were chosen for a reason, I'm guessing it's quality. All chips burn out in time, they have a lifespan. But you overclock your device and you burn your chip faster.
So what I'm saying is stay with the original frequencies. Port an optimized ROM and that should suffice.
Thanks for your answers, but i really notice the differenct, especially with a reboot, it normally takes 30-40 seconds, and now in less then 10 secs i'm at my home screen, and ready to go.
Also it is smoother with scrolling, and apps launch even faster.
so the diff is hugh to me.
Battery life is not an issue, i said, even if it goes to crap, i replace it for €20,- (Just about $25,-)
And the performance is nice, but my question was if i have to set other things.
And i use lulzactiv governor, it uses only what it needs, it's not always the full 1.6 ghz. Only when speed is preferred.
@Kenepo112x40 this is where i found it, i use it now, so it works:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1574672
Edit: There's a zip in attachment, that's the one, install in cwm recovery
SGS2-1989 said:
Thanks for your answers, but i really notice the differenct, especially with a reboot, it normally takes 30-40 seconds, and now in less then 10 secs i'm at my home screen, and ready to go.
Also it is smoother with scrolling, and apps launch even faster.
so the diff is hugh to me.
Battery life is not an issue, i said, even if it goes to crap, i replace it for €20,- (Just about $25,-)
And the performance is nice, but my question was if i have to set other things.
And i use lulzactiv governor, it uses only what it needs, it's not always the full 1.6 ghz. Only when speed is preferred.
@Kenepo112x40 this is where i found it, i use it now, so it works:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1574672
Edit: There's a zip in attachment, that's the one, install in cwm recovery
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I had to go and look for the 2.30 on another post cuz the 2.41 doesn't allows me to have data on the phone. Thanks anyway man, the problem was that they hadn't uploaded the link yet on the official site but they did yesterday.
To OP, I suggest u increase voltage at over locked 1.6 to keep it stable
Now that we have root, what's everyone's favorite root apps and things to do with root?
I don't do much with root myself, but I do use Titanium Backup and SetCPU.
What do you guys use?
I'm using SetCPU but I'm trying to determine whether the clock speeds actually change on the stock kernel. Seems to be working for me, can anyone confirm?
titanium backup, root explorer, voltage control, adaway for me.
Titanium Backup, Root Explorer, Root Call Blocker, Adblock.
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I'm using SetCPU but I'm trying to determine whether the clock speeds actually change on the stock kernel. Seems to be working for me, can anyone confirm?
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We almost definitely cannot overclock with the default kernel. At least that's how all devices have operated in the past. I doubt HTC would ever include that function on the kernel, as it can damage devices.
Underclocking might work though, and I'm pretty sure changing the governor would work.
To test it, run some CPU benchmarks while using various settings. If it's working, you should see a noticeable difference in your results.
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We almost definitely cannot overclock with the default kernel. At least that's how all devices have operated in the past. I doubt HTC would ever include that function on the kernel, as it can damage devices.
Underclocking might work though, and I'm pretty sure changing the governor would work.
To test it, run some CPU benchmarks while using various settings. If it's working, you should see a noticeable difference in your results.
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I will do this now.
Not planning on overclocking at all! I never overclock phones, only underclock to improve battery life. I'm using the 'powersave' governor but it doesn't seem to be functioning correctly. Will post screens soon.