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WARNING --> WARNING you can be killing your data plan and not know it
this problem is systemic because we all have the same hardware/software
don't wait till u get a 500 dollar data over usage bill, make sure you do not
have the problem NOW
This problem appears to arise from, BUT may not be limited to …...
Skipping the initial Google account setup when you first get your phone!
The symptoms:
you connect to your WiFi but are still download and surf the web with your network connection (2G/3G or 4G)
How can u tell if you have this problem ?
Open the App market (easiest and sure way to find out)
if you have the problem right next to your WiFi you will see 2G, 3G or 4G connection
you may have to click on an app in the market and wait for the page to load to see the above
BUT u will see it if you have a data plan, if you do not have a data plan you will get a network error!
Which tells you if you think about it that u are not surfing with WiFi at all!
And hence killing (using) your data plan!
Go here if u wanna read what we went through to find the offending app's and how to solve the problem
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1044349
the easiest solution comes from EtherealRemnant (I have his post quoted below)
for thoughs of u who can not do the original setup, because you don’t have a data plan
OR don’t want to do a factory reset! You will have to go to the above post for details on how to solve the problem.
Some are easy (and work for some) other solutions are harder and require you to take an extra step after every reboot! (as in my case)
Maybe a developer out here can make an easy one click Fix
peace and good luck
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Originally Posted by EtherealRemnant
I had this same issue and I found out the cause. First off, if you skip the initial setup and set it up later,
you will never fix the issue. Particularly when downloading from the Market. You need to go to Settings/Privacy
and do a factory reset and make sure you set up your Google account on the initial setup screen.
Second, make sure that your phone is not using any data before turning wifi on. If it is, let it stabilize for a few moments.
If this does not work, turn on wifi calling. Its better voice quality anyway and you don't get dropped calls.
This is obviously just a software bug that needs a patch to fix. I've seen far worse problems out of the gate with phones
than software bugs as small as this.
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lol thanks bud....
i always wondered why people skipped the setup... it takes 2 mins......
now look... you might have caused your own problems... maybe this is where the REBOOTS/LAG/DATA/LOCK DEATH PROBLEMS are coming from.........
nate420 said:
i always wondered why people skipped the setup... it takes 2 mins......
now look... you might have caused your own problems... maybe this is where the REBOOTS/LAG/DATA/LOCK DEATH PROBLEMS are coming from.........
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SO true maybe this is the cause of ALL them problems, I never thought of that!
BUT for myself i can not do the initial setup because i do not have a data plan to sync the account with in setup
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a1yet said:
SO true maybe this is the cause of ALL them problems, I never thought of that!
BUT for myself i can not do the initial setup because i do not have a data plan to sync the account with in setup
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i bet it will help with most of them (not the bleeding tho thats hardware)
Thank you for giving me credit on my fix.
I didn't really think about the people who don't have data plans - lots of us skip the initial set up on phones though due to slow network speeds. I have a lot of towers in my area but I get 100kbps on a good day and 300 off-peak... there's an air force base not even ten miles away and I have a feeling that's where a lot of it comes from... I switched from at&t to T-Mo because of the exact same speeds but I was also dropping calls in my house with them. I've yet to drop one with T-Mo.
Well I set my wife's up correctly. She still has the problem.
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nraudigy2 has posted a fix here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1046991
But it's still not working for some
my fix using his method stopped working and i am back to turning on wifi calling again ***SIGH***
i might just have to buy a day data plan and factory reset,
and set the phone up properly the first time
so i don't know whats up with this
just don't take this fix to be the end all be all fix
just be happy if it works for you
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unlimited data over hrere
The real culprit is T-Mobile's very own My Account app. It won't work over Wi-Fi and starts a native data connection with the mother ship with every query even when Wi-Fi's enabled. The way to prove this is to enable Wi-Fi calling and then try to get My Account to answer a query. It can't because Wi-Fi calling hard closes the native data connection and it apparently outranks the My Account app. Once Wi-Fi Calling's turned off I do still see the 4G indicator pop-up randomly when I'm on Wi-Fi.
Does anybody know what harm this is really doing? If the only app or apps that are using native data when Wi-Fi's enabled are Market and My Account how much data is really being consumed? Looking at my data usage (and I'm a pretty heavy user) it doesn't seem much different then what I was burning on the G2.
jerichoholic said:
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But... 3/4G are capped at either 2GB or 5GB depending on your plan. Once you hit that threshold you'll be throttled to GRPS speeds which makes dial-up look fast.
Well updating my wife's my account app fixed hers. I had to manually update hers. It was not like mine which updated itself.
But it worked so far. No errors since.
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For those with no Data Plan. Try this. (Probably works vice versa) You can't have My Account app running at all. I would root and remove it with Titantium Backup.
1. Factory Reset
2. Skip initial setup
3. Turn on Airplane Mode (hold down Power button for 3 sec)
4. Turn on Wifi
5. Setup Google Account/Market
6. Shutdown phone/Reboot ( Don't know if you need this)
7. Turn off Airplane Mode
This is more legit than my other solution.
nate420 said:
lol thanks bud....
i always wondered why people skipped the setup... it takes 2 mins......
now look... you might have caused your own problems... maybe this is where the REBOOTS/LAG/DATA/LOCK DEATH PROBLEMS are coming from.........
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no dude, that's not where those things are coming from. secondly, you skip the setup if A) you don't have a sim card or B) if you don't have a data connection. You have to get through all the crap to turn on wifi and then sync. all that wondering and you never thought of that?
EvanPatrickSmith said:
no dude, that's not where those things are coming from. secondly, you skip the setup if A) you don't have a sim card or B) if you don't have a data connection. You have to get through all the crap to turn on wifi and then sync. all that wondering and you never thought of that?
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My solution works with no data connection so far.
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My solution works with no data connection so far.
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i might try this tomorrow
it's time to take my Android to bed
? does that make me Android gay ?
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T-Mobile unlimited data is truly unlimited I'm at 8 GB according to T-Mobile and I'm still rocking my 4G $15 a month for unlimited web is great.
death1246 said:
T-Mobile unlimited data is truly unlimited I'm at 8 GB according to T-Mobile and I'm still rocking my 4G $15 a month for unlimited web is great.
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How did you get the unlimited internet for 15 dollars. I'm paying 20 right now.
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xl DIGITAL lx said:
How did you get the unlimited internet for 15 dollars. I'm paying 20 right now.
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How are you guys paying 15 and 20? I have to pay 30. ;(
I just remove that My Account and other TMo bs.
The worst effect of this is that it eats through your battery life at an alarming rate. seriously, check your cell standby statistic. Way too high for normal.
http://androidandme.com/2011/06/new...-bloatware-forever-and-we-love-them-for-that/
Not just Tmobile but all carriers should follow in Sprints footstep and allow users to remove bloatware. Most of these bloatware we never use anyway and if most of you don't know, they monitor your phone in ways you can't imagine. One example is Tmboile TV which always the app to:
Your messages: read SMS or MMS, receive MMS, receive SMS, receive WAP - (why would a app like that need to read your text messages?)
Your location: coarse (network-based_ location, fine (GPS) location - (enough said about that!)
Network Communication: full Internet access (and some of you wonder why your battery drains)
Services that cost you money: send SMS messages
Phone calls: read phone state and identity
System tools: change network connectivity, change WI-FI state, modify global system setting, prevent phone from sleeping - (PREVENT PHONE FROM SLEEPING....WHAT thats just some creepy stuff. and change network connectivity, so if your phone randomly acts up and switches from 2G to 4G or your WI-FI turns off, it might not be a defective device but an app trying to get info from you.
My theory is that if I purchase a phone fro $2006, it should be MY phone and I should be able to do whatever I want to the phone; root, remove, change anything as I please. I'm already paying the carrier for the data and thats where it should stop, they give me the data that I pay for and I purchase a phone that I do as please. Just saying!
Link doesn't work my friend
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Link doesn't work my friend
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Sorry about that, reposted.
Soldi3rxx said:
http://androidandme.com/2011/06/new...-bloatware-forever-and-we-love-them-for-that/
Not just Tmobile but all carriers should follow in Sprints footstep and allow users to remove bloatware. Most of these bloatware we never use anyway and if most of you don't know, they monitor your phone in ways you can't imagine. One example is Tmboile TV which always the app to:
Your messages: read SMS or MMS, receive MMS, receive SMS, receive WAP - (why would a app like that need to read your text messages?)
Your location: coarse (network-based_ location, fine (GPS) location - (enough said about that!)
Network Communication: full Internet access (and some of you wonder why your battery drains)
Services that cost you money: send SMS messages
Phone calls: read phone state and identity
System tools: change network connectivity, change WI-FI state, modify global system setting, prevent phone from sleeping - (PREVENT PHONE FROM SLEEPING....WHAT thats just some creepy stuff. and change network connectivity, so if your phone randomly acts up and switches from 2G to 4G or your WI-FI turns off, it might not be a defective device but an app trying to get info from you.
My theory is that if I purchase a phone fro $2006, it should be MY phone and I should be able to do whatever I want to the phone; root, remove, change anything as I please. I'm already paying the carrier for the data and thats where it should stop, they give me the data that I pay for and I purchase a phone that I do as please. Just saying!
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Ok, how about this....Does any one know anyone ....that uses Bloatware???
I know several people who use My Account. Another few who use the TMO Family room...or family account thing. I asked them why ....they couldn't tell me why.
On other services...like WP7....they try to force you to buy ringtones via one of their services....Carriers have the ability to add Ringtones via a purchase mechanism....but owners do not....without hack.
Bloatware of any kind is the number one reason why phones run like crap and eat battery.
G2x with CM7 and faux kernel. NONSENSE!!!!
Pretty cool on Sprint's part. I guess that's one of the reasons their tops in customer service for the last umpteen years in a row. Too bad their coverage isn't better, though it has improved since I last used them.
Here is why removing the bloatware should be a option. Usually the people who are going to use that **** are people who don't even know why it should be on the phone, let alone even bother to remove it. If you want to use My Account then go to the market and download it.
Besides my G2X, I also have a Sensation and there is bloatware on there that doesn't only run in the back ground, it stays running in the fore ground eating up memory. Don't these company's know that there hurting the user experience.
jlevy73 said:
Pretty cool on Sprint's part. I guess that's one of the reasons their tops in customer service for the last umpteen years in a row. Too bad their coverage isn't better, though it has improved since I last used them.
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Since when has sprint ever been tops in customer service
G2x with CM7 and faux kernel. NONSENSE!!!!
There probably wont be a t-mobile usa in a year anyway.
I hope that's not the case but hey
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tackleberry said:
Since when has sprint ever been tops in customer service
G2x with CM7 and faux kernel. NONSENSE!!!!
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Oops, it was just this year (or 2010 I mean). http://www.precentral.net/sprint-scores-best-customer-satisfaction-improvement-across-all-industries
Soldi3rxx said:
My theory is that if I purchase a phone fro $2006 ...
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$2006!!! Return it and I'll sell you mine for HALF that. ;-) lol
But yea, that's pretty cool about the bloatware.
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I mean theres certain apps I do use but i would like to be able to remove the apps i don't use
System tools: change network connectivity, change WI-FI state, modify global system setting, prevent phone from sleeping - (PREVENT PHONE FROM SLEEPING....WHAT thats just some creepy stuff. and change network connectivity, so if your phone randomly acts up and switches from 2G to 4G or your WI-FI turns off, it might not be a defective device but an app trying to get info from you.
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lol this is awesome. Means it allows the phone to go from 2G/3G/4G/Wi-Fi without interrupting application, automatic switching is the term.
Also prevents the phone from sleeping is so you don't have to tap the screen every 30 seconds so it doesn't go black. I mean these things really don't have any effect on your phone when not in use. If you want this to not be an issue don't use the application.
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Oops, it was just this year (or 2010 I mean). http://www.precentral.net/sprint-scores-best-customer-satisfaction-improvement-across-all-industries
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I call bull**** lol
G2x with CM7 and faux kernel. NONSENSE!!!!
phburks said:
$2006!!! Return it and I'll sell you mine for HALF that. ;-) lol
But yea, that's pretty cool about the bloatware.
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I like the people that spend $550 for the phone and then still end up spending $80 a month for usage on the network. Cracks me up.
Allright. I received a bill for $80 this month for mobile browser/net usage (WTF!?). Now, as far as i know, they shouldn't be charging me. I'm connecting to my home's internet. AKA; the FREAKIN' internet i ALREADY pay for every month. My mobile data is ALWAYS off. I have no need for it. If i see a WiFi hotspot, i connect to it.
I did some research. There's some sort of carrier data packet setting that i can disable, to resolve this problem?
Although i shouldn't HAVE to do this... This shouldn't even happen. I'm not using the internet per my service provider.
I looked in Wireless settings, and couldn't seem to find this setting.
What the hell's going on? Please help... this is beyond ridiculous.
I would make sure you're actually connected to your home internet, this just about never happens.
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Allright. I received a bill for $80 this month for mobile browser/net usage (WTF!?). Now, as far as i know, they shouldn't be charging me. I'm connecting to my home's internet. AKA; the FREAKIN' internet i ALREADY pay for every month. My mobile data is ALWAYS off. I have no need for it. If i see a WiFi hotspot, i connect to it.
I did some research. There's some sort of carrier data packet setting that i can disable, to resolve this problem?
Although i shouldn't HAVE to do this... This shouldn't even happen. I'm not using the internet per my service provider.
I looked in Wireless settings, and couldn't seem to find this setting.
What the hell's going on? Please help... this is beyond ridiculous.
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Or find a new carrier. Sounds ridiculous to me.
If I were you and didn't want to use any of their data, you can call and ask them to block that feature on your line. I did this on some of the lines on our family plan.
sshede said:
I would make sure you're actually connected to your home internet, this just about never happens.
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Just about never happens? ...I'm at home. And i did in fact connect to my internet.
My mobile data is OFF. Always is. I only use my WiFi.
Prenihility said:
Just about never happens? ...I'm at home. And i did in fact connect to my internet.
My mobile data is OFF. Always is. I only use my WiFi.
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well like this happend to my gf. she went to take new contract ( actually she needed the phone) and the sells man invite her for free trial 2gb internet. she take. after a month they sent the bill + 25 euros for data charge. WTF?! she even didnt make a call. just minimum monthly charge. so she went and ask why u send the bill for data use? that smart sells man show something her in computer that she use data with this sim card. then she take out the sim card and through in his table, which was not even broken the security seals the sells man was f**** red face and apologies and says something must be wrong.
so go and be rude and ask explanation for extra data bill. i'm sure if ur data always off, thn they must make MISTAKE!!!!
I just got a Galaxy S3. I want my MT4GS to go to my wife. She's currently using a cheap slider with no data plan (Gravity S).
So, I just plugged her SIM card into my freshly reset (but rooted) phone. Wifi off. Navigation and google maps work with satellite views, which means that there is a data connection. I'm curious as to whether this is data I would be charged for.
My wife does maybe 10 messages and ten minutes a month. I don't plan to get her hooked on internet or email. I thought that having navigation would be a good thing. I do have wifi, so I could download maps ahead of time, but from what I have seen, navigation instructions are still a data user. I turned off the data and the maps don't work.
With all that above, I have my question. Will I get billed for a small amount of data?
Rooted, is there any way around it?
sandiegoan said:
I just got a Galaxy S3. I want my MT4GS to go to my wife. She's currently using a cheap slider with no data plan (Gravity S).
So, I just plugged her SIM card into my freshly reset (but rooted) phone. Wifi off. Navigation and google maps work with satellite views, which means that there is a data connection. I'm curious as to whether this is data I would be charged for.
My wife does maybe 10 messages and ten minutes a month. I don't plan to get her hooked on internet or email. I thought that having navigation would be a good thing. I do have wifi, so I could download maps ahead of time, but from what I have seen, navigation instructions are still a data user. I turned off the data and the maps don't work.
With all that above, I have my question. Will I get billed for a small amount of data?
Rooted, is there any way around it?
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It's at the carrier level, so there's no way around it (like throttling and the old services.jar trick). Are you both on the same plan? That might save you some headache.
blackknightavalon said:
It's at the carrier level, so there's no way around it (like throttling and the old services.jar trick). Are you both on the same plan? That might save you some headache.
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My wife's current phone is a basic phone that has slide out keyboard and touch screen. I am not now paying for a data plan. When I simply put the sim card in the MT4GS, the messages were available. They might be stored on the sim card, I don't know.
I brought up Google Maps and the local map came up. I added the satellite view and it came up. I didn't turn on wifi and I didn't turn off mobile data.
My main question is, If the phone doesn't get used much and we don't use web or email, will we get charged or will the data stop? There is a limited amount of data that comes with the phone to power the weather widget on the home screen.
I just don't want to get any surprises when the bill comes up next time.
Any information would be helpful.
sandiegoan said:
My wife's current phone is a basic phone that has slide out keyboard and touch screen. I am not now paying for a data plan. When I simply put the sim card in the MT4GS, the messages were available. They might be stored on the sim card, I don't know.
I brought up Google Maps and the local map came up. I added the satellite view and it came up. I didn't turn on wifi and I didn't turn off mobile data.
My main question is, If the phone doesn't get used much and we don't use web or email, will we get charged or will the data stop? There is a limited amount of data that comes with the phone to power the weather widget on the home screen.
I just don't want to get any surprises when the bill comes up next time.
Any information would be helpful.
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You need to turn off mobile data on the phone. Wifi is ok to use, but if mobile data is on, you will get charged per use. Not sure what the rate is, but it's usually steep.
Even if you don't use mobile data, smartphones are designed to constantly pull data. Which is why you'll get data charges if you don't turn it off. That's just how they are built. Gmail sync, weather updates, widgets, apps, etc. It's impossible for you to control how and when your phone uses data unless you're manually controlling each and every app.
That said, if you turn off data, you will lose MMS since it relies on mobile data
Technically, a data plan is REQUIRED when running a smartphone, but lately I've seen almost everyone get away with it. I'm not sure if they revoked the rule or they just don't enforce it anymore. Last time I checked, they're authorized to tack a data plan onto your account if they catch you using one of these phones.
SOURCE: I use a smartphone with no data plan
Check out my thread posing a similar question, it may help:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1635679
The app I mentioned there was an amazing idea for someone that doesn't have a data plan. Let me know if you figure out how to make it work
I think t-mobile charges u for the initial plan, like for a smart phone your plan would typically require some sort of data like 100mb to start at 4g, but there all unlimited as far as I know, and throttled after you go over the given amount, anyone feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but to be sure look at t-mobiles contract plans with data, may say #mb/gb of 4g/unlimited mines a month 2 month prepay of 2gigs and in my account says 2gigs/unlimited because they throttle you once your over
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Not sure I am understood
The phone my wife has is a dumb phone with a touch screen and a slide out keyboard. Because it can get weather and some email, there is limited data available.
When I put her sim card in the Slide 4g data is available. Somewhere there is a line that gets crossed and charges start occurring. I'm just trying to find out where that line is.
If she only makes calls and text, there is no problem. I can turn on wifi, but it doesn't help get directions when she is out. This wouldn't be a regular thing but I would like to see it available.
I am fearful of calling tmobile because it might flag my account. That is why I am asking here first.
Thanks.
sandiegoan said:
The phone my wife has is a dumb phone with a touch screen and a slide out keyboard. Because it can get weather and some email, there is limited data available.
When I put her sim card in the Slide 4g data is available. Somewhere there is a line that gets crossed and charges start occurring. I'm just trying to find out where that line is.
If she only makes calls and text, there is no problem. I can turn on wifi, but it doesn't help get directions when she is out. This wouldn't be a regular thing but I would like to see it available.
I am fearful of calling tmobile because it might flag my account. That is why I am asking here first.
Thanks.
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There's no way your wife has been using her phone without some sort of mobile data. Either pay per use or part of your plan. It's not possible to get email and weather on your phone unless you have data or are using wifi
Ok so then from what I understand is you wife has a phone with the smallest data plan on it
Then you just have to watch out for data overages. Your limit must be pretty small (not sure what it is)
there are minimal data accounts for dumb phones
As far back as almost 4 years ago I had weather and email without the $5 web account. Since it was the same limited web that you got with a flip phone and it wasn't practical and usable, there was the $5 for the web. I had constantly updated weather and I had email to my gmail, and live/hotmail addresses. It was very hard to use and to configure (not the weather, which had a little picture widget with the tempurature) but it did have limited data. I could download maps. Again on a dumb phone, it was mostly not worth using, but I had a little taste of a smart phone in early 2009.
So, I guess that all the expertise here is on Android phones with full data plans. I was hoping that someone here would know about the limited data plan that IS on the Samsung Gravity S. I asked here because I want to see how far I can go with the no data plan and still use that limited data.
Seriously, we're talking about a tech less person. The old phone has a plastic screen and is hard to use.
I see that I am not getting what I want here.
Thanks for trying.
I think you are right about not getting your answer. I wonder if you can get on their CS chat anonymously and find out that way. I feel where you are coming from in not wanting to ask directly and getting hosed for your trouble. Whatever you find out please post it here if you don't mind so we can all benefit.
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Coug76 said:
I think you are right about not getting your answer. I wonder if you can get on their CS chat anonymously and find out that way. I feel where you are coming from in not wanting to ask directly and getting hosed for your trouble. Whatever you find out please post it here if you don't mind so we can all benefit.
Hastily spouted for your befuddlement
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Yeah.
Maybe go into a TMobile store, or *maybe* a Best Buy and ask the reps in there, as they might tell you something different too.. Dont tell the TMo Store reps u are a member already just ask hypothetically how their data billing works.
I am sure many people ask the same questions. Good luck! :good:
Answer will you get charged data/, t-mobile offers unlimited data, w/ limited 4g, click your "my account" application, it will say "data plan amount/data limit". If data limit says unlimited, you have unlimited data, if it shows a limit it will either charge u to go over or just turn off your data make sure the phone is stock, and factory or it may not state the correct amount,
But like someone said above stated call t-mobile ask them when they charge you and what your limit is. That is your best bet, don't let them know you have put your sim in a new phone, though they probably know already.
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For some reason, I am getting an error when I try using t0mmy (found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1677261) one click tether enabler. I've done some searching and cannot find anyone else who has had this issue. What the heck am I missing (screenshots attached)?! Any ideas?
Info:
- Stock AT&T ROM
- Rooted
- Android 4.0.4
- Used on StraightTalk... all APNs are setup correctly... data works on the phone.
For solution, SEE BELOW
One other thing I should mention is that even when I am using `android-wifi-tether` it will not work. It just shows up as a device on my computer when it is turned on as a wifi hotspot.
I've downloaded SQLite Browser and have changed all fields with "broadband" to "pta". Still no go.
I don't understand what you need that program for...
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When I click to activate the native wifi hotspot, it says that I cannot have a hotspot and to call 611. So I am trying Android Wifi Tether, which works for a little bit then after about 3 seconds, says "what the hell, your phone is taking over. shutting down wifi." Something like that. I'm just trying to get this phone setup so my friend can use it as a hotspot.
SQLite is to edit my `telephony.db`
Well, I do believe that it could be because you are using a stock rom, so att bulit in securities could be taking over. Also, I do want you to know that ATT does have advanced technology to detect tethering. without notice, they can upgrade you data plan to 5gb ($50) because you were caught tethering. it is the way the apn connects. now you can try to change your apn to BROADBAND, which is tethering, but again, but warned. if your data plan changes (esepcially if you are grandfathered into one), then that's on you...
so here are my suggestions: change the APN to broadband, get off the stock, and im sure there are a plethora of apps in the play market that should work
Herc08 said:
Also, I do want you to know that ATT does have advanced technology to detect tethering. without notice, they can upgrade you data plan to 5gb ($50) because you were caught tethering.
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They will send you a warning (physical letter or SMS, can't remember which exactly) notifying you have been caught tethering without the appropriate data plan. Then, if you are caught again, they will change you plan.
Probably nobody except folks at AT&T know the exact methods they use to monitor for tethering. But the thought here is that a high amount of usage will raise red flags, then they will examine data packets for the signs of tethering.
Some folks (myself included) have been able to tether without getting caught, by just doing it occasionally, and keeping the data usage low. But even then, the system seems far from consistent. I've seen a couple of folks report on here getting the tethering warning from AT&T, despite having never even tethered.
The days when you could easily pirate tethering may be coming to an end. AT&T has really cracked down on it and improved their methods of detection. Even if you get this working, you will get caught if you start tethering regularly.
redpoint73 said:
They will send you a warning (physical letter or SMS, can't remember which exactly) notifying you have been caught tethering without the appropriate data plan. Then, if you are caught again, they will change you plan.
Probably nobody except folks at AT&T know the exact methods they use to monitor for tethering. But the thought here is that a high amount of usage will raise red flags, then they will examine data packets for the signs of tethering.
Some folks (myself included) have been able to tether without getting caught, by just doing it occasionally, and keeping the data usage low. But even then, the system seems far from consistent. I've seen a couple of folks report on here getting the tethering warning from AT&T, despite having never even tethered.
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I do apologize, you are right. You will get a notice first. And then if you continue, then you will still bumped out. It is an email AND a SMS. Using small amount of data is usually the way to go. But if you trying to tether a computer, then most likely the data usage will be high. As I mentioned in other posts, as a former AT&T employee, if you want to tether, just upgrade your data plan. If you are on unlimited data, you will already get throttled at 3gb, so the Unlimited data and 3gb are basically the same thing, which is why the price is the same.
I have seem some accounts when excessive tethering is done, that the data is actually suspended, no matter what the case is. It's weird that AT&T can do that, but it is in their wireless agreement, which is at section 6 i think.
Thanks for the heads up about AT&T clamping down on this. It is good to know. I am doing this for an elderly couple who rarely use the internet. This is their first smart phone. They are savvy enough to know what that message means if they get it. I will let them know about it too.
They mainly will be accessing on the device itself but wanted the option to use it as a hotspot as well. They are already paying for data... they purchased the phone used and are under no contract (on Straight Talk). They want to use something they own, however they want. It's too bad AT&T is so mean.
It's like buying a computer and then the manufacturer says you cannot use bluetooth unless you pay them a monthly service charge.
[SOLUTION]
Oh yeah, I forgot to post that I figured a way out to get 'android-wifi-tether.apk' to work on the stock AT&T ROM.... here we go:
Get "Proxoid" from the Google Play Store
Get WiFi Tether from the Google Play Store (or from here [QR Codes in link]: http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/)
Get a mobile data widget
Once you have them installed, get them all lined up somewhere you can easily run them one after the other.
Make sure mobile data OFF before you turn anything on.
Open Proxoid and check the box to start/stop Proxoid... you want it ON
Open WiFi Tether and turn on tethering
Now you can turn on mobile data
This worked successful for me. I tested it for about 10-15 minutes, playing YouTube videos, reading some blogs, checked out some google image searches and so on. If you do not turn Proxoid on before mobile data is on, this will NOT work.
ENJOY! :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
UPDATE: This only worked on my Mac and Android phone. Mac picked up the HOX as a "device" instead of a wifi connection but it worked. Windows cannot find the connection at all. If someone knows how to get Windows to find the device and use it as a hotspot please let me know.
While tethering is a feature of the phone they own, the data being used is a service that is not owned and while I don't agree with what at&t does, I can understand why they would discourage tethering and it is technically within their right to limit how their data is used. They/you could have picked another company that allows tethering but as a consequence you may face saturation from all those heavy tether users.
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exad said:
While tethering is a feature of the phone they own, the data being used is a service that is not owned and while I don't agree with what at&t does, I can understand why they would discourage tethering and it is technically within their right to limit how their data is used. They/you could have picked another company that allows tethering but as a consequence you may face saturation from all those heavy tether users.
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Which is the reason behind the detection. Same as throttling. With the explosion of bandwidth needed, the big companies cannot keep up. Hence why smaller companies offer unlimited data.
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