[Q] No recovery after OTA kj6 update....HELP! - Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)

I have rooted 2 different phones after the OTA KJ6 update. I rooted one phone with super one click 2.3.2 and the other using doomlord_v3_root and both phones sends the error:
Can't access
csc/ tmb....file? I tried flashing just the csc file using odin but it just soft bricked the phone. Can anyone help with this? I can't get either phone into recovery

I'm pretty certain that being rooted just gives you the ability to push the files needed for recovery to /system... Or, you could flash a kernel with cwm recovery
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That "can't access CSC/TMB" error is normal, at least for me. As for getting into recovery, it's different once you flash the Gingerbread boot loaders.
Power off the phone. Hold the volume up & down buttons at the same time. While doing that, press and hold the power button. Once the "Galaxy S" screen shows up, wait a second or two and you'll notice that screen gets a tad bit brighter. When that happens release only the power button while continuing to hold the volume buttons. You should get the recovery screen after that.

I know how to do download mode and recovery, and all that guys. I'm not a noob, I have just never posted anything. But I get stuck because on Froyo (rooted) the 2nd option on the recovery screen it said "reinstall packages" and you choose that one...blah blah blah....well on Gingerbread recovery the 2nd option on the recovery screen is "apply update to sd card" and that option takes me to files, and I can't find an update.zip anywhere in recovery or on the sd card or on the phone. And I keep getting the following error:
--Applying Multi-CSC...
Istallng Multi-CSC
Can't access to /system/csc/TMB/system/
Successfully applied multi-CSC.
What am I doing wrong? I know it has got to be something simple (hopefully), it usually is anyway. I appreciate yalls time.

Have you tried using Odin to flash a modded kernel? It will give root and cwm recovery which hopefully you will be able to access.
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I have actually, I flashed KJ1 + voodoo (Dr.honks kernel) and my phone doesn't act stable on it. I installed Busybox and everything but my phone does crazy stuff like shut off randomly and freeze up too frequently.

Is root your goal? Because your title states no recovery which is the reason you received the responses you did.
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Yes I have root, sorry if I'm misleading....that's kind of why I haven't posted anything before...don't wanna crash and get burned on here, ya know

You have root. You know how to get into recovery. What is your question?
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i can't get voodoo, or clockwork recovery. I can't flash anything, the recovery that is shown is the stock recovery. It's almost like I'm missing the update.zip or something. I posted what it was doing, is it not clear? I know it sounds crazy, I've actually never seen this before.

Odin a modded kernal as said above.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=20067583
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Danyelle39 said:
i can't get voodoo, or clockwork recovery. I can't flash anything, the recovery that is shown is the stock recovery. It's almost like I'm missing the update.zip or something. I posted what it was doing, is it not clear? I know it sounds crazy, I've actually never seen this before.
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I'm going to attempt to clarify things here, so forgive me (and correct me) if any of this is wrong
- You updated 2 different SGS 4Gs to KJ6 (2.3.6) using Kies Mini
- Both phones are now rooted
- You tried using drhonk's KJ1 kernel on at least one them (which gives you root, CWM, and voodoo lagfix) but it was unstable
- You WANT to have CWM vs the stock recovery
What is the current state of either phone with regard to what ROM & kernel are on it?
If you're at stock 2.3.6 (KJ6 ROM) and you were having issues with drhonk's kernel, you can try one of bhundven's [Heimdall][One-Click][UVKJ6] The KJ6 Heimdall One-Click Collection [12/11/2011]. The latter of which on that list will give you root, CWM, and voodoo lag fix.
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Note the link that lumin30 gave is flashable via Heimdall. I used it to flash onto my phone and the kernel works great. I'm currently running it, as a matter of fact.

[/COLOR]Note the link that lumin30 gave is flashable via Heimdall. I used it to flash onto my phone and the kernel works great. I'm currently running it, as a matter of fact.[/QUOTE]
Oops... I flashed it in CWM. Kernel does work great. Though bhundven recommends flashing Beta 2d until he releases his new version. Both kernels have worked great for me.

lumin30 said:
[/COLOR]Note the link that lumin30 gave is flashable via Heimdall. I used it to flash onto my phone and the kernel works great. I'm currently running it, as a matter of fact.
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Oops... I flashed it in CWM. Kernel does work great. Though bhundven recommends flashing Beta 2d until he releases his new version. Both kernels have worked great for me.[/QUOTE]
No oops, you can flash it either way. I had just installed stock 2.3.6 and didn't have CWM, so I went the Heimdall route. I didn't try Beta 2d, I went straight to Beta 3. I dig it.

I think he recommends Beta2d because of a deepsleep issue draining battery for some people.
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Danyelle39 said:
I know how to do download mode and recovery, and all that guys. I'm not a noob, I have just never posted anything. But I get stuck because on Froyo (rooted) the 2nd option on the recovery screen it said "reinstall packages" and you choose that one...blah blah blah....well on Gingerbread recovery the 2nd option on the recovery screen is "apply update to sd card" and that option takes me to files, and I can't find an update.zip anywhere in recovery or on the sd card or on the phone. And I keep getting the following error:
--Applying Multi-CSC...
Istallng Multi-CSC
Can't access to /system/csc/TMB/system/
Successfully applied multi-CSC.
What am I doing wrong? I know it has got to be something simple (hopefully), it usually is anyway. I appreciate yalls time.
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I get that same error about CSC. I think everyone does. Note that it says "Appling" not "Applying" LOL. Don't think that has anything to do with your problem.
Also what OTA 2.3.6 update? I thought we all had to use Kies Mini to put the stock update on? Or is that just a Tmobile USA thing.

Correct both are rooted...well correction I had to flash one back to stock because I messed it all up playing with Heimdall, so now only one has root. But yes, both are running KJ6 2.3.6 (only one is rooted with the "not working" recovery) neither one has voodoo as of right now. Both phones are giving the same error "cant access to /system/csc/tmb/system/" (even the one that is not rooted). Yes I want cwm or voodoo either one, but I've been experiencing the unstableness with voodoo. On the phone that is rooted...yes it goes into download mode and recovery, but recovery doesn't have an update.zip to flash, so therefore, I can't flash anything. I don't like using custom kernels (although I have found KG4 is probably the most stable), I just wish I could root my Gingerbread and actually be able to use recovery to flash, and fix permissions, and all that good stuff. I don't know what I did wrong. I'm not a noob, I just have never had to actually post anything on here. I find little things all time that ain't right, or just don't make sense about my phone. But I usually either fix it or live with it. But this one has got my brain boiling! I can't figure this one out. I know there are alot going on that doesn't make sense at all, I wish a magic fairy would come in and fix both phones like they just left the store so I can start all over and hopefully not run into this problem....anyone know of any fairys available?

Having CWM or the right recovery you refer to is a modded kernal. The stock kernal gives you the recovery you are seeing. The update.zip was on froyo. Now you just need to ODIN the modded kernal we keep telling you to do. That will give you CWM or the right recovery to flash away with. ODIN A MODDED KERNAL. Take your pick. I recommend bhundven as he is active developer and updating his work. They have worked great for me. No problems.
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And we understand now... you are not a noob.
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Related

I896UXJL1 odin

Is there a ODIN file for the Rogers captivate froyo 2.2? Is it possible to flash roms without the ODIN file?
Do I just flash the JF6 Stock [email protected] Kernel anyways? I'm kind of stuck right now, this is my first attempt to flash and I've already hit a roadblock can anyone help please.
Read this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905042
I downloaded that file, but couldn't figure out what to do afterwards. I watched the mobile tech videos and it seemed that he was able to just click on the file and open the odin, while when I try to open it says "can't find application to open" after I extract it. Also I don't understand why I have to flash back to stock when I'm already at stock.
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First download odin from this thread,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=884364
Open it first and then point it to your rom image that you would like to use, you don't extract the file you have, it's ready to use as downloaded.
Please watch the videos again because you don't understand it yet and you're well on your way to a solid brick.
BTW using CWM with a .zip is easier then Odin IMHO, and can be done completely from your phone, no computer needed, it will also let you know if you have the three button recovery ( very important if something goes wrong ).
Read, read and read some more. Flashing a rom is not hard but it does have to be done correctly. If you want an almost guaranteed result you'll do the homework and learn something. I've only been here a while and rarely do I see a question that hasn't been answered 50 times already, your answers are here, go look for them and you'll pick up other things you will need to know when you decide to be a bit more adventurous with setting your phone up JUST like you want it.
Thanks for the information, it looks like I got lots of work to do.. The link you sent me has a broken Odin link on the other side, do you have a mirror or some sort so I can get the file? Also my final question is that since I have a Rogers Captivate I need to JL1 file not a J16 right? I've looked everywhere but couldn't find an answer to this... Thank you.
Vik_92_Sandhu said:
Thanks for the information, it looks like I got lots of work to do.. The link you sent me has a broken Odin link on the other side, do you have a mirror or some sort so I can get the file? Also my final question is that since I have a Rogers Captivate I need to JL1 file not a J16 right? I've looked everywhere but couldn't find an answer to this... Thank you.
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do you want to install a custom rom?? like phoenix or cog? if you are already rooted, just install clockwork mod and flash it to phone... then reboot into recovery and choose install zip from sd card... then select 'choose zip from sdcard'. then find the zip of the rom you want to install. I'm a rogers user and I've flashed all the latest roms (currently using andromeda 2.0). Never needed odin.
oh I see thanks, I've tried flashing Cognition via ROM manager with no success. I had Cognition on my SD card, installed and flashed the Clockwork mod and then selected "install ROM from SD card". From their it makes me select my ROM and then after I do it takes me to recovery mode. From here I select Reinstall packages and it says something like "Can't verify file" in red writing and aborts installation. I've always thought that maybe since I skip the whole "flashing ODIN" step that's why it's not working but obviously that's not the case. Do you know why it's not working for me? Thanks for the help.
are you running rogers 2.2 update? it has 3e recovery and will not allow zips to be flashed.
if that's the case, you will need odin3 from this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=821625
then put a new kernel in the PDA section. I used the tar file listed in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=870760
then with your phone powered off, sim card and memory cards out (put back cover on so the battery doesn't fall out) hold 2 volume buttons and plug in usb... should go to download mode. then hit start.
boot up will take a bit while voodoo formats ext4 on your files. after that, you can go into recovery mode and flash zips from sd card
Vik_92_Sandhu said:
oh I see thanks, I've tried flashing Cognition via ROM manager with no success. I had Cognition on my SD card, installed and flashed the Clockwork mod and then selected "install ROM from SD card". From their it makes me select my ROM and then after I do it takes me to recovery mode. From here I select Reinstall packages and it says something like "Can't verify file" in red writing and aborts installation. I've always thought that maybe since I skip the whole "flashing ODIN" step that's why it's not working but obviously that's not the case. Do you know why it's not working for me? Thanks for the help.
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Another thing for CWM, the zips must not be hiding in a folder somewhere put them in the root and do not rename them.
Thanks for all your help, you guys give this site the reputation it deserves.
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just flashed Cognition! thanks!
Vik_92_Sandhu said:
just flashed Cognition! thanks!
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No problem.
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and PS.
thank the dev's who make all this possible by donating to them if you can afford it!
I have a quick question with this current Kernel Can I flash any type of Rom.. even the ones based on the i9000 like Paragon?
ps: would I have to to flash the stock Kernel/modem if I flashed back to stock?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905042
when you flashed cog it would have put a new kernel on there. when you flash a different rom they come packaged with one the dev chooses. You can switch the kernel after with sgs kernel flasher or cwm
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Vik_92_Sandhu said:
ps: would I have to to flash the stock Kernel/modem if I flashed back to stock?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905042
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I've never flashed back to stock installing any rom yet.
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thanks for the help rnewton, you have been a life saver
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btw rnewton, how is andromeda 2.0?, would you recommend it?, I really don't see many differences with cog, maybe because I already had froyo(it is much faster though, great work dg), also whats your opinion on phenoix rising?, I just recently downloaded it Do you have any suggestions if I wanted a really fast rom? How many roms have you went through? Sorry for all the questions, I just dont understand all the technical information that comes with all the rom information, maybe I should make a whole different thread for this. Thanks for all your help.
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Please help a newbie out

Hey All,
Just had my infuse for a week and no complaints about the phone so far. But I have been reading a lot on this forum and I want to get off this stocky phone and get a ROM on it and see how much better it will be.
I'm fairly new to this as I have never rooted or loaded ROM's before, so running into a lot of problems. Trying to root my Rogers Infuse with superoneclick which didn't work and ended up getting stuck in boot loop so used odin3 fix and got it up and running again and rooted phone.
I downloaded the 3e recovery and used root explorer to r/w in system/bin which is telling me to rename old recovery file but for some reason I don't have an original recovery file. So I just paste the one I downloaded and unzipped in the folder, use rom manager and flash cwm. Then when I get to cwm recovery to reinstall packages but that option is not available on screen.
Sorry guys I'm pretty struggling with this, I have been searching all over and starting to think I should just stick to stock. Any help would be greatly appreciated thanks in advance!!
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eddy82 said:
Hey All,
Just had my infuse for a week and no complaints about the phone so far. But I have been reading a lot on this forum and I want to get off this stocky phone and get a ROM on it and see how much better it will be.
I'm fairly new to this as I have never rooted or loaded ROM's before, so running into a lot of problems. Trying to root my Rogers Infuse with superoneclick which didn't work and ended up getting stuck in boot loop so used odin3 fix and got it up and running again and rooted phone.
I downloaded the 3e recovery and used root explorer to r/w in system/bin which is telling me to rename old recovery file but for some reason I don't have an original recovery file. So I just paste the one I downloaded and unzipped in the folder, use rom manager and flash cwm. Then when I get to cwm recovery to reinstall packages but that option is not available on screen.
Sorry guys I'm pretty struggling with this, I have been searching all over and starting to think I should just stick to stock. Any help would be greatly appreciated thanks in advance!!
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You probably need to hit reinstall packages twice then it should turn green and then you flash
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Yea thats what I have been reading on the forum but for some reason it doesnt even give me "reinatall package" option at all.
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eddy82 said:
Yea thats what I have been reading on the forum but for some reason it doesnt even give me "reinatall package" option at all.
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What color is it booting into then
If it's green install from sd card
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It's blue, I'm still in samsung recovery. I thought followed all steps already, gotta see what I missed I guess.
Thanks for reply, hope I can get it going tonight.
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First download your ROM,next use this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=14053463
Then flash your ROM
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you never set up CWM...
download rom manager from the market, click "flash clockworkmod recovery", then select plain old galaxys i900.
this should give you the "reinstall packages" option that you are looking for, and selecting that twice will get you to green recovery.
or you could just flash any infusion froyo kernel with heimdall or odin and get directly to red CWM (which is where you generally want to be flashing zips from).
Damn just tried it but stuck on Samsung boot screen. Seemed like everything got loaded on the phone, Odin3 said it was completed too. Maybe there is something wrong with my phone thanks.
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mfpearson said:
you never set up CWM...
download rom manager from the market, click "flash clockworkmod recovery", then select plain old galaxys i900.
this should give you the "reinstall packages" option that you are looking for, and selecting that twice will get you to green recovery.
or you could just flash any infusion froyo kernel with heimdall or odin and get directly to red CWM (which is where you generally want to be flashing zips from).
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I downloaded ROM manager before and clicked on "flash clockworkmod recovery" but the "reinstall packages" still didn't show up.
Not to sure how to flash kernels yet.
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try starting fresh from stock, and following this video to get your modded 3e recovery. make sure you adjust the permissions like the video does.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkMo8rBehHg
I will give it another go at it.
I will follow this link to get back to stock
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1092021
There are 2 downloads there that I see. "stock + rooted + 3e" and the other is "100% stock"
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whenever i need to (i say that because most of the time it isn't really necessary), i always go back to 100% stock, do a factory reset from settings (make sure the contents of your SD card are backed up), and re-root it using superoneclick (making sure USB debugging is on, and my SD card is mounted).
then, follow the youtube video for modded 3e recovery, making sure to adjust the permissions at the end. flash clockworkmod recovery again in rom manager (plain old galaxys i9000), and this should allow you to finally flash your ROM.
Yea going to give it one last try before I go to bed thanks!
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This is a good read on this phone. Kind if weird being so different from my Captivate for doing roms.
Thanks guys flashed Serendipity 7 it's great!
Just started fresh, made sure I took all the correct steps and it worked.
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eddy82 said:
I will give it another go at it.
I will follow this link to get back to stock
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1092021
There are 2 downloads there that I see. "stock + rooted + 3e" and the other is "100% stock"
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UCKD5 is a Froyo AT&T-derived ROM - the bootloaders on your Rogers Infuse probably won't like it.
It looks like you eventually figured things out, but in general - the Rogers Infuse has different "back to stock" and "rooting" processes from AT&T devices due to it having stock Gingerbread and more specifically, Gingerbread bootloaders. Since far more people here own AT&T Infuses, the Rogers-specific threads tend to get buried on the 2nd/3rd pages of dev, and people here forget that Rogers devices are "special" when posting suggestions.

The truth about version of CWM and your ROM

There have been many people wondering whether or not the version of clockworkmod recovery will be compatible with certain roms. Clockworkmod has no affect on the ROM whatsoever so you can be on 5.0.2.7, touch recovery 5.5.0.4, touch recovery 5.8.1.3, etc. and you can install any rom from within those recoveries. It makes absolutely no difference what recovery you are on. Every recovery above CWM 3.0 uses edify scripting (which is what is needed for all roms above android 2.0). So if anyone tells you that you need a certain recovery to flash ICS or GB they are wrong. All Clockworkmods are compatible with ALL ROMS.
I concur. Ive tried all 3 and ive had no issues. I think some folks state to use certain ones because thats what they used and they didnt have any problems, so they keep telling everyone to do what they did.
As with any Rom load, all issues arise or dont arise based on how well you cleaned the slate before applying the ROM.
Dixit
Good to hear this re-affirmed. I am having problems flashing .zip's in CWM and know for sure it's not the version!
randomtask16 said:
Good to hear this re-affirmed. I am having problems flashing .zip's in CWM and know for sure it's not the version!
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what issues are you having? right away the first thing i would try is downloading the rom again as you may have had a corrupted download.
From personal experience I have had a ton of issues before I ODINd the 5.5.0.4 recovery. Prior to that I was running the 5.8.1.3 and I was having a ton of issues flashing some of the roms. I don't have any proof of errors or anything but I'm certain that Appdroid will be willing to vouch for me right now.
~PsyCl0ne
I've tried them all without any major issues except for one. Flashing ROMS is one thing but the overall functioning of all the tools within seem to differ. Permissions for example work on some and not on others. They do differ overall but I agree flashing a ROM isn't an issue. Everyone has their preference and if a developer says to use a particular version, there is a reason. I'll ask you since your the expert, do the wipes and cache clears work the same way?
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Maybe someone can tell me what's wrong with my setup, I'm on Superlite 5.0 with ROM Mgr v5.0.0.6. I can only boot into CWM (Touch 5.8.1.3) from ROM mgr and nothing else. It's not a major deal but I can't go directly to backup, restore e.g. like I used to with a GB rom.
bdbx18 said:
Maybe someone can tell me what's wrong with my setup, I'm on Superlite 5.0 with ROM Mgr v5.0.0.6. I can only boot into CWM (Touch 5.8.1.3) from ROM mgr and nothing else. It's not a major deal but I can't go directly to backup, restore e.g. like I used to with a GB rom.
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I dont use Rom Manager, you wont find alot that use it for those functions either as its essentially passes that request off to CWM when its rebooted. So Id suggest just rebooting to recovery using the toggle panel in Superlite, then in the CWM touch, just backup, restore, do anything.
Dixit
bdbx18 said:
Maybe someone can tell me what's wrong with my setup, I'm on Superlite 5.0 with ROM Mgr v5.0.0.6. I can only boot into CWM (Touch 5.8.1.3) from ROM mgr and nothing else. It's not a major deal but I can't go directly to backup, restore e.g. like I used to with a GB rom.
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Are you saying that if you power down and use the three-button combo it doesn't work? (ie volume up+volume down+power)
If this is the case you may want to try using Odin to flash recovery again (found in the Fix Soft Brick or in the rooting thread...)
skrambled said:
Are you saying that if you power down and use the three-button combo it doesn't work? (ie volume up+volume down+power)
If this is the case you may want to try using Odin to flash recovery again (found in the Fix Soft Brick or in the rooting thread...)
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For my phone I don't have to hold power when booting up. I just hold both volume buttons till I see the recovery menu.
~PsyCl0ne
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PsyCl0ne said:
For my phone I don't have to hold power when booting up. I just hold both volume buttons till I see the recovery menu.
~PsyCl0ne
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This is exactly how I get into recovery on my AT&T phone. Holding three buttons just causes it to reboot over and over again
skrambled said:
Are you saying that if you power down and use the three-button combo it doesn't work? (ie volume up+volume down+power)
If this is the case you may want to try using Odin to flash recovery again (found in the Fix Soft Brick or in the rooting thread...)
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What I meant is that I used to do for e.g. 'Backup current rom' from ROM mgr, name it accordingly, and it will reboot into CWM and backup with that name. Now it just reboots to CWM main panel and sits there. Even the timestamp on the backup file is off.
PsyCl0ne said:
For my phone I don't have to hold power when booting up. I just hold both volume buttons till I see the recovery menu.
~PsyCl0ne
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Oh yes, you're on rogers. I thought rogers users had to hold volume down only+power button to get into recovery (ie no volume up key involved). I've seen many rogers users say that...
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bdbx18 said:
What I meant is that I used to do for e.g. 'Backup current rom' from ROM mgr, name it accordingly, and it will reboot into CWM and backup with that name. Now it just reboots to CWM main panel and sits there. Even the timestamp on the backup file is off.
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Oh! Now I get it. I have had weird issues with ROM Manager ever since I had this phone. Backup via ROM Manager worked a couple times on gb roms but then it started doing what you described. Ever since it started doing that I just backup from cwm, and then go back in with Root Explorer to re-name the files so I know what's what...
Can't you just boot straight to recovery from most roms as well as from rom manager if you were on a rom that didn't have that ability? I can't remember the last time I had to press buttons to get into recovery, I'm not saying it's not useful to know, but merely stating that it's highly unnecessary in most cases to ever have to touch the buttons for recovery.
sk8erwitskil said:
There have been many people wondering whether or not the version of clockworkmod recovery will be compatible with certain roms. Clockworkmod has no affect on the ROM whatsoever so you can be on 5.0.2.7, touch recovery 5.5.0.4, touch recovery 5.8.1.3, etc. and you can install any rom from within those recoveries. It makes absolutely no difference what recovery you are on. Every recovery above CWM 3.0 uses edify scripting (which is what is needed for all roms above android 2.0). So if anyone tells you that you need a certain recovery to flash ICS or GB they are wrong. All Clockworkmods are compatible with ALL ROMS.
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You are absolutely correct. That is why I have not required any specific recovery, but told people what I use. yours . But, there is a caveat, since flashing a full rom requires reliable wipe operations from the recovery, it appears to be a hit or miss. That is why, I have specified the requirement that whatever recovery you use, use the recoveries built-in Format /system, /cache and /data, I am not going to do it within my update script.
BTW, thanks for the recovery, it cuts down a bunch of time trying to test, build..
Funny you say CWR makes no difference. I disagree. The kernel works different in different versions of cwr
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Clockwork Touch aka recovery-clockwork-touch-5.8.1.3-hercules
I cant adb remount it gets stuck in Read only.
With
v 5.0.2.6 I have no issues
Flashing files in one ver the other may cause issues for some phones.. As we have seen every phone is handling the ICS flash different.
I have had better luck with the older CWR
mhx said:
Funny you say CWR makes no difference. I disagree. The kernel works different in different versions of cwr
With
Clockwork Touch aka recovery-clockwork-touch-5.8.1.3-hercules
I cant adb remount it gets stuck in Read only.
With
v 5.0.2.6 I have no issues
Flashing files in one ver the other may cause issues for some phones.. As we have seen every phone is handling the ICS flash different.
I have had better luck with the older CWR
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Nope..read the OP again...he is talking about the linkage of ROM and recovery. They are unrelated...
mohan_kr said:
Nope..read the OP again...he is talking about the linkage of ROM and recovery. They are unrelated...
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i beg to differ, mhx makes a valid point. The op may be true for gb, but for ics i too have noticed better flashes, and things "stuck better" with 5.0.2.6. I can't even get fix permissions to work on anything past 5.0.2.7
icenight89 said:
i beg to differ, mhx makes a valid point. The op may be true for gb, but for ics i too have noticed better flashes, and things "stuck better" with 5.0.2.6. I can't even get fix permissions to work on anything past 5.0.2.7
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I've flashed multiple ICS roms multiple times on multiple CWM (touch and non) recoveries, and I've never had a single issue.
icenight89 said:
i beg to differ, mhx makes a valid point. The op may be true for gb, but for ics i too have noticed better flashes, and things "stuck better" with 5.0.2.6. I can't even get fix permissions to work on anything past 5.0.2.7
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If the OP was talking about different features of a particular recovery, then yes there is point to it. He is talking about flashing a ROM with edifying scripting support for the skyrocket, which should work regardless of the version of the base android platform for our device, if of course the ROM creator has put the rights bits in the script for that particular ROM.

Caught in a loop - Guidance Please.

Good morning -
I'm hoping someone can point me in the right direction. I'm an existing user of the Galaxy Nexus and have been rooting / flashing it without any issue, but a little stumped on what went wrong with the captivate.
I picked up a brand new Captivate for my wife from Craigslist the other night for $60. I really nice phone...very nice screen.
I was successful in rooting it last night all though I did have to copy a recovery file into the system/bin. I believe that was because of a signature issue I was having and found some information on this site regarding the file.
Anyway, everything seem to have rooted fine and I copied CM9 to the proper location. Booted into ClockWorkMod and flashed the ROM.
However, it now boots to the AT&T screen, goes black, and then back to the AT&T screen. I can between ATT screens a script or something running.
I then used ODIN to get back to stock and appears it went through without any issues. However, it still gets in the same loop at the AT&T screen. I am still able to get into download mode. Perhaps I used the wrong ODIN.
Would someone have an idea of the next step? Do I need to get into some type of boot screen to do another master reset / format?
Thanks.
The first time when you were seeing the AT&T screen, a script screen, then rebooting, what was happening was that the phone needed to have the CM9 zip flashed again. The first time you flashed it, it essentially built the framework onto which the second flash would actually put CM9 in place.
As for where you are right now, you may want to flash back to a Gingerbread-based stock rom with bootloaders included (unless you're 100% certain it already has the Gingerbread bootloaders). There's a sticky in the development section that has all the stock roms.
Once you've flashed back to stock Gingerbread, try flashing the CM9 zip again. If it does the boot loop again, just hold Vol+/Vol-/Power until it reboots, and it should put you in ClockworkMod Recovery. At that point, just flash the CM9 zip again and you should be good to go.
One word of warning, as you're new to the Captivate. ICS-based roms, on some occasions, have a bug that can cripple the internal SD card of the Captivate. I'd suggest you look for the "Encryption Unsuccessful" thread in the Development section and read up a little bit so you are aware what that is.
Thank you for the assistance.
Is this where I should start for the ODIN?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=18370912&postcount=3.
In particular, 'I897UCKK4 Odin One Click - Stock, CONTAINS Bootloaders, Re-partition, Full Wipe'
Thanks.
That looks correct to me. I'm assuming you'll need the bootloaders package, as you had mentioned you were dealing with the 3e signature error (which, if I recall correctly, is associated with stock Froyo roms).
Okay. Maybe next time I should just stick with a non-ICS ROM. Just need to find one in the development section.
Thanks a bunch! A great little phone and the screen is just outstanding.
Okay....back up and running using "In particular, 'I897UCKK4 Odin One Click - Stock, CONTAINS Bootloaders, Re-partition, Full Wipe" from the above link.
However, now I can't get the one click root to work.
There's an easier way. Go to the Corn Kernel, grab a CWM-based zip file and flash it from within CWM recovery. That will give you the Corn Kernel, which will (I believe) give you root access.
Double check, though, that you can get to CWM recovery by using the V+/V-/Power key combo. It should have about 9 options (instead of the 4 in standard recovery).
If you don't have CWM recovery from the flash you just did, you'll just need to grab another one-click that has CWM baked in. There's one that says "Without Bootloaders - Link to thread - by 4-2ndtwin [With CWM Injected Kernel from Boog]". That flashes KH3, no bootloaders, but with the CWM-friendly kernel.
Or...from the Stock KK4 just use this new Utility by Red_81 to get CWM Kernel and Root... [Utility] KK4 Easy Root
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Another thing about cm7 or cm9 is you have to remove the external sdcard (storage) before you flash.
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crt60 said:
Another thing about cm7 or cm9 is you have to remove the external sdcard (storage) before you flash.
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I've heard this before, but I don't think I've heard the reason for why it's recommended to remove the external SD card.
I only ask because I've flashed those with my external SD card in place and the flashes went ok.
4-2ndtwin said:
Or...from the Stock KK4 just use this new Utility by Red_81 to get CWM Kernel and Root... [Utility] KK4 Easy Root
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Thanks so much! Rooted....my wife is happy. No I need to find a ROM to start with.
Legend 4 ...enough said
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jmtheiss said:
I've heard this before, but I don't think I've heard the reason for why it's recommended to remove the external SD card.
I only ask because I've flashed those with my external SD card in place and the flashes went ok.
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Everytime I've flashed aosp or aokp I had to remove the external sd or it would bootloop. Guess some phones deal with it better than others. Go figure...
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crt60 said:
Everytime I've flashed aosp or aokp I had to remove the external sd or it would bootloop. Guess some phones deal with it better than others. Go figure...
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I have tried a couple times last night with AOSP or AOKP and get into the same situation as you. However, I'm a rookie at the Captivate. I was able to flash a GB Custom ROM without issue.
More weekend research. I really want to try one of those other ROMS.
4-2ndtwin said:
Legend 4 ...enough said
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What he said. crt60 is a developer on it too.

[Q] Clockworkmod Recovery updated, can't enter recovery mode

Hi, I've searched and can't find an answer. I've managed to root my Infuse and got Infinitum rom installed. It was working great until just this evening when Clockworkmod updated (sorry, I can't find the version number). It went into a boot loop. It took me a bit, but I managed to get it out of the boot loop and back to stock, now it's rooted again with Infinitum running again.
I'm trying to get back to a recovery point that I do have on the phone, but I can't get the phone to boot to recovery no matter what I do. When I try using the vol and power buttons combination or from ROM manager I get the same thing. It goes past the stock Samsung logo into the Galaxy S/Cyanogen(mod) logo, but freezes there.
I can, of course, take the loss of my setup and redo everything manually. I would really prefer to be able to get that backup back. I'm also concerned should I ever need to get into recovery mode for any other reason. My guess is that I need to downgrade the CWM version, but I haven't been able to find how to do it.
Can anyone give me any help? Please let me know if there's info that I can give that would be useful...I'm noobie, I know!
VyCariously said:
Hi, I've searched and can't find an answer. I've managed to root my Infuse and got Infinitum rom installed. It was working great until just this evening when Clockworkmod updated (sorry, I can't find the version number). It went into a boot loop. It took me a bit, but I managed to get it out of the boot loop and back to stock, now it's rooted again with Infinitum running again.
I'm trying to get back to a recovery point that I do have on the phone, but I can't get the phone to boot to recovery no matter what I do. When I try using the vol and power buttons combination or from ROM manager I get the same thing. It goes past the stock Samsung logo into the Galaxy S/Cyanogen(mod) logo, but freezes there.
I can, of course, take the loss of my setup and redo everything manually. I would really prefer to be able to get that backup back. I'm also concerned should I ever need to get into recovery mode for any other reason. My guess is that I need to downgrade the CWM version, but I haven't been able to find how to do it.
Can anyone give me any help? Please let me know if there's info that I can give that would be useful...I'm noobie, I know!
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There are many layers to your questions.
You may need to read a bit more to get a better understanding.
Here is two points I can offer that may be helpful.
1. Don't use ROM Manager for the Infuse.
2. To downgrade a cwm version, you will need to flash a GB or FROYO kernel in download mode via heimdall or odin. You can also use any one of the return to stock that is flashed in download mode also.
If you think you lost recovery, try flashing the kernel for the rom you were running in cwm, if you can get back into cwm again.
qkster said:
There are many layers to your questions.
You may need to read a bit more to get a better understanding.
Here is two points I can offer that may be helpful.
1. Don't use ROM Manager for the Infuse.
2. To downgrade a cwm version, you will need to flash a GB or FROYO kernel in download mode via heimdall or odin. You can also use any one of the return to stock that is flashed in download mode also.
If you think you lost recovery, try flashing the kernel for the rom you were running in cwm, if you can get back into cwm again.
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I believe you about the ROM Manager. Too late, unfortunately. I'll take it off.
I had the phone back to stock with Odin. I went through all of the steps that I went through to first root it and install Infinitum. I had red cwm at the time. I just can't seem to get into it now. I don't think I lost it, I'm just unsure of how to get to it, since it freezes at the cm startup. I can just power off from there after I give up waiting, and it will boot to ICS normally when I power it on normally. I have Titanium Backup Pro, and it can access the nandroid backup that I have to get the apps and data. I was just hoping to recover the whole setup. I had an issue last weekend (oops to me) when I tried to install a JB rom where it went into a boot loop. I recovered everything after backtracking like I did tonight, and was hoping to be able to do the same. Is there any hope, do you think, if I go back and return to stock and start over from the beginning again? If not, I'll just suffer and redo the whole thing.
By the way, I really appreciate you answering. I've been lurking for a few weeks, and realize that you know a LOT about these phones.
VyCariously said:
I believe you about the ROM Manager. Too late, unfortunately. I'll take it off.
I had the phone back to stock with Odin. I went through all of the steps that I went through to first root it and install Infinitum. I had red cwm at the time. I just can't seem to get into it now. I don't think I lost it, I'm just unsure of how to get to it, since it freezes at the cm startup. I can just power off from there after I give up waiting, and it will boot to ICS normally when I power it on normally. I have Titanium Backup Pro, and it can access the nandroid backup that I have to get the apps and data. I was just hoping to recover the whole setup. I had an issue last weekend (oops to me) when I tried to install a JB rom where it went into a boot loop. I recovered everything after backtracking like I did tonight, and was hoping to be able to do the same. Is there any hope, do you think, if I go back and return to stock and start over from the beginning again? If not, I'll just suffer and redo the whole thing.
By the way, I really appreciate you answering. I've been lurking for a few weeks, and realize that you know a LOT about these phones.
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Okay, so next question. I've been reading and searching and reading some more. I can get the phone back to stock and work up again, but I still reach a point where it will freeze on the Samsung/CM startup screen. In reading the Infinitum Project thread, I found this (yes, it's pretty easy to find):
"Recovery/CWM messed up?
Here is how to fix it...
1) Download uclb3 heimdal by qkster
2) open the program
3) put phone in download mode
4) click flash (leave program open when finished DO NOT CLOSE)
5) after it finishes and your phone reboots, put the phone back in download mode and reconnect to PC
6) click flash bootloader on the heimdal program you left running
7) flash, let reboot and your recovery problems should be gone"
I used that to get back to stock before...doesn't that remove the root? Do I have to go through all that, then the bootloaders, and then go back and root all over again to get back to a working CWM? I'm sorry to ask so many questions, but it seems that I've done most of this already, though I admit to not doing the flash for the bootloader. I'm just unclear since it says "your recovery problems should be gone" at the end of that, like I have to do nothing more.
That does remove root access. However, root isn't really necessary, at least for the stock ROM, if you have no intentions of staying stock. The ROM .zips you'll subsequently flash are pre-rooted. After you Heimdall back to stock, and flash it again with "flash bootloaders" selected, then use Heimdall to flash this kernel:
http://d-h.st/6KA
That'll flash both a new kernel and CWM Red recovery. It'll take a few minutes to boot up the first time, as it's installing the lagfix. Once it boots up, just shut it down and boot back up in recovery. From there, you can do whatever you need to do.
VyCariously said:
Okay, so next question. I've been reading and searching and reading some more. I can get the phone back to stock and work up again, but I still reach a point where it will freeze on the Samsung/CM startup screen. In reading the Infinitum Project thread, I found this (yes, it's pretty easy to find):
"Recovery/CWM messed up?
Here is how to fix it...
1) Download uclb3 heimdal by qkster
2) open the program
3) put phone in download mode
4) click flash (leave program open when finished DO NOT CLOSE)
5) after it finishes and your phone reboots, put the phone back in download mode and reconnect to PC
6) click flash bootloader on the heimdal program you left running
7) flash, let reboot and your recovery problems should be gone"
I used that to get back to stock before...doesn't that remove the root? Do I have to go through all that, then the bootloaders, and then go back and root all over again to get back to a working CWM? I'm sorry to ask so many questions, but it seems that I've done most of this already, though I admit to not doing the flash for the bootloader. I'm just unclear since it says "your recovery problems should be gone" at the end of that, like I have to do nothing more.
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As Apex pointed out, each time we bring the phone back to stock, we lose root access and all the previous setup. It's a fact of flashing.
No big deal though, rooting is easy and is not really needed. What is needed is the insecure kernel with cwm. The link Apex gave you is the same as the posted kernel in post #2 of the thread. That kernel will give you the cwm. Review that thread if you haven't yet.
Flash the heimdall uclb3 repartition package. Immediately after it successfully boot your phone, don't close the program. check the bootloader box and put the phone back into dl mode and flash it again to get your gb bootloaders...
then flash the kernel.
review my how to thread if you need to.
Andros11 also made a how to for JB if you want to live vicariously.
gl
qkster said:
Andros11 also made a how to for JB if you want to live vicariously.
gl
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Thanks guys
It's been a crazy busy week and I just didn't have time to deal with the phone. I've been dealing with stock gingerbread. It's getting kind of annoying, though, it seems less stable than the custom ICS that I had on it before. Not sure when I'm going to have time to play with it again and try to get it to where I want it. I think I'm going to try to totally wipe all of the old stuff out of the memory before I do it again, though. There's something that wasn't allowing me to do what you guys are telling me to do successfully. I'm also thinking of finding a GS2 and just selling the Infuse, not because of my confusion, but because the GS2 was what I was originally looking for anyway.
I'll try to get this one set up first, though, as it's just a matter of me being obsessive about it.
qkster, I'll look into the JB, too, lol.
qkster said:
As Apex pointed out, each time we bring the phone back to stock, we lose root access and all the previous setup. It's a fact of flashing.
No big deal though, rooting is easy and is not really needed. What is needed is the insecure kernel with cwm. The link Apex gave you is the same as the posted kernel in post #2 of the thread. That kernel will give you the cwm. Review that thread if you haven't yet.
Flash the heimdall uclb3 repartition package. Immediately after it successfully boot your phone, don't close the program. check the bootloader box and put the phone back into dl mode and flash it again to get your gb bootloaders...
then flash the kernel.
review my how to thread if you need to.
Andros11 also made a how to for JB if you want to live vicariously.
gl
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Hey I am not the Infuse user... But I faced similar problem in my xperia some days back after updating the recovery.
I was also not able to enter recovery at boot time using my usual volume down way...
What the change was the new recovery checks for tap on the screen (repeatetive) instead of volume down button...
Not sure if it will work or not for you... But you can give a try...
Hit thanks if it works
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XperiaNeoVNoob said:
Hey I am not the Infuse user... But I faced similar problem in my xperia some days back after updating the recovery.
I was also not able to enter recovery at boot time using my usual volume down way...
What the change was the new recovery checks for tap on the screen (repeatetive) instead of volume down button...
Not sure if it will work or not for you... But you can give a try...
Hit thanks if it works
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I didn't get a chance to try it, sorry! I ended up wiping my phone totally back to stock Gingerbread with nothing on the sd card, either, and starting all over again. It seems to be working really well this time (fingers crossed). RemICS-UX is pretty much awesome
VyCariously said:
I didn't get a chance to try it, sorry! I ended up wiping my phone totally back to stock Gingerbread with nothing on the sd card, either, and starting all over again. It seems to be working really well this time (fingers crossed). RemICS-UX is pretty much awesome
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No probs...
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