There are many steps to returning to stock if i don't decide to use PD15IMG, i really just want some security and clarity on this.
Can someone help me understand how to do the following things-
1.Turn S-ON
2.replace clockwork with stock recovery
I used the visionary method, so unrooting is as simple as clicking unroot in the app.
I'm just confused about how to do the listed things.
The reason i don't want to use pd15img is because i'd rather not go through installing all of my apps and whatnot.
Also important- I want to know if there is a certain order in which to do these things to minimize risk? an example would be (Not coming from any prior knowledge about this, just something that sounds like it could be realistic) booting a rooted rom on hboot with S-ON - would it be incompatible for some reason?
I hope i make sense here, I just want to know that if i ever have the urge to revert to stock, i can without erasing all of the stuff on my phone.
I suppose you could also tell me these things about pd15img-
1. will it turn s-on?
2. will recovery be stock?
3. will i still be rooted?
4. will i be restored to hboot 0.86?
5. are there any dangers involved if i use it properly through hboot?
I'm sort of asking for a lot of information here I suppose, but answering as much as you can of it would be incredibly helpful. thanks in advance.
Ok, I do not think you can go back to s=on and such w/out it basically doing a factory reset. What is your current ROM? Is it Gingerbread or Froyo? If you have google backup then your apps should be fine, it will just take some time to restore them once you are back up and running again.
Also, check out this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=863899
Look in the development section... there are multiple threads explaining what you want to do with step by step instructions.
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I wanted try the update and same time get my eng-S back on. I followed the return to stock method to get my phone back to the factory state with s-on and successfully got the update. My question is, now will any versions of the ace-hack-kit work on my updated phone to root, s-off and sim-unlock again if I so wished? I only ask because I am not very happy with the battery usage on the stock rom. I did wanted to get rid of the eng-s off because of all the warnings but I didn't think about going back to my rooted and unlocked state when I updated (that was sort of foolish of me).
You're basically back where you started. To re-root, you'll need to downgrade the ROM so you'll lose anything you got from the update anyway.
attn1 has already posted a rooted version of the new update here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1058042) so flashing this ROM will give you everything from the update with root
Or root it yourself using Gingerbreak (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1057104)
I have not tried either of these, but both threads are reporting good things. A little search goes a long way
I need to go back to stock actually, and from all the "stock" roms I've seen they are all cingular based. When I got the phone it said nothing about Cingular splash screens or whatever. it was all ATT screens and I cannot for the life of me find that specific stock rom for my Inspire.
Sudogaron said:
I need to go back to stock actually, and from all the "stock" roms I've seen they are all cingular based. When I got the phone it said nothing about Cingular splash screens or whatever. it was all ATT screens and I cannot for the life of me find that specific stock rom for my Inspire.
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Follow the steps in my sig, second post.
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Follow the steps in my sig, second post.
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I'm doing that right now actually. I found it after posting that last message.
Okay, I'm pretty sure no one on the sensation forums has posted a thread on this yet.
I'm fairly new to the Android experience. So sorry for any noobness this might seem.
So here's the deal, I'm really excited that the sensation got S-Off treatment a few days back (So I take it we can flash all sorts of custom ROMs right?). Though I'm fairly satisfied with the stock ROM on my sensation, I'll probably flash it in the near future (you know, when htc decides, it's no longer worthy of updates.) But what happens if I regret installing a certain ROM and want Stock sensation ROM back?
If you're lazy:
How do I get stock sensation ROM after having flashed a custom ROM?
Simple run a nandroid back up through cwm so you can revert to it
Clockwork mod
okay, so nandroid is an app I can get from the market right? Though I have no idea what cwm is, so... if you'd be kind enough, i'd love it if you could explain it to me. Also, does this back up to my micro sd card? And if so, is it in the form of a file/folder that i can copy to my computer?
thx in advance~
thanks! This seems like an awesome app!! So before I go and S-off my phone, is this any different from the other methods of flashing rom? and why is the recovery file amazingly small? 4.5megs for the sensation?
You can use the ruu.exe application from the development thread. Its an exe file you just need to run and it will flash over any rom and restore S-ON to your phone. The whole process takes about 5-7mins. I had done that since I s-off my sensation and realized it needed to be sent back for warranty (dust under screen).
aznknightz17 said:
You can use the ruu.exe application from the development thread. Its an exe file you just need to run and it will flash over any rom and restore S-ON to your phone. The whole process takes about 5-7mins. I had done that since I s-off my sensation and realized it needed to be sent back for warranty (dust under screen).
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It will change to ship s-on but not off. There is a guide in the dev section on how to make soff
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yueli93 said:
Okay, I'm pretty sure no one on the sensation forums has posted a thread on this yet.
I'm fairly new to the Android experience. So sorry for any noobness this might seem.
So here's the deal, I'm really excited that the sensation got S-Off treatment a few days back (So I take it we can flash all sorts of custom ROMs right?). Though I'm fairly satisfied with the stock ROM on my sensation, I'll probably flash it in the near future (you know, when htc decides, it's no longer worthy of updates.) But what happens if I regret installing a certain ROM and want Stock sensation ROM back?
If you're lazy:
How do I get stock sensation ROM after having flashed a custom ROM?
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Hi,
This thread will help you get s-off,and help you restore everything as well:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192300
It will give you CWM and you can make your NANDROID backup with it.
Well, I got my Sensation today, and I'd like to know what to do first.
I have a Vodafone branded HTC Sensation, with compilation number 3.32.162.11, Base band version 11.69A.3504.00U_11.23.3504.07_M2, it comes with ICS Sense 3.6.
I'd like to know how to be able to install a recovery and install other roms, and later return to the same branded original rom, in case I have to send it for warranty.
I'd first like to know how to do all of this. Also, I'd like to save the original RUU, but can't find it.
Can anyone help me?
Thanks
RCOO said:
Well, I got my Sensation today, and I'd like to know what to do first.
I have a Vodafone branded HTC Sensation, with compilation number 3.32.162.11, Base band version 11.69A.3504.00U_11.23.3504.07_M2, it comes with ICS Sense 3.6.
I'd like to know how to be able to install a recovery and install other roms, and later return to the same branded original rom, in case I have to send it for warranty.
I'd first like to know how to do all of this. Also, I'd like to save the original RUU, but can't find it.
Can anyone help me?
Thanks
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Go this thread it will answer all ur questions http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1530004
U can do root with s-on or u need to do s-off install custom recovery then do a nandroid backup then do root and super cid to be able to flash any room u want f it custom or stock just read will before u do any thing remember nandroid is so important and when u need something always search it then ask wish u luck peace
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I'm sorry, I didn't understand a lot that you've said =\
I'm pretty sure what you're supposed to do is search the forums to find the answer to your question that's been asked over and over again.
That's why he told you to goto that link and read. Has all the information you want.
Yeah, the thing is I can't find the RUU I currently have, and I'd like to have it before doing everything on the link provided...
In that case, make a nandroid backup. Know what you have stock and assemble the bits needed.
Is this a new or used phone and are you son it soff
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Using the method: " 1) Easy Method for Installing ICS Custom Roms ( S-ON Devices with hboot 1.27.0000 ) " from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26277186#post26277186, without S-OFF, how can I go back to stock, if I have to return the phone to warranty?
I can make a nandroid backup of my current rom, which is the stock one, from Vodafone, updated. The thing is I don't have the ruu to restore the vodafone branding + ICS. And I can't use an older Vodafone ruu and update, because of hboot version. I can only flash the Europe ICS ruu, which I don't know if will void the warranty with Vodafone (since it gets debranded). I assume the phone goes to HTC and they just check that the bootloader is locked, S-ON and unrooted, and they fix it and don't care about branding but still... Technically even if I do the nandroid backup of my current rom, I can restore it, but won't be able to remove the bootloader lock without flashing a complete ruu, correct?
Which stock Sensation XE rom has the least amount of bloatware?
The question pretty much sums it up. I just got a Sensation XE, Hong Kong model. It has a lot of crap software on it: youni sms, xda assistant, 通通电话，baidu, kuwo player, and all this other Chinese crap. I hate Chinese software with passion. If skynet was/is real, I believe it would be running a Chinese OS. Chinese software naturally tries to take over your computer or phone.
I want to switch to the stock rom with the least amount of junk on it. If it also has a good Chinese/English keyboard with handwriting input that is a plus.
Also, just to make sure I'm on the right track, this is what should be done before I can change roms, right?
1) Get S-off
2) Install Clockwork Mod
3) Get permanent root
4) Write super cid
5) Change Stock Rom
typci said:
Which stock Sensation XE rom has the least amount of bloatware?
The question pretty much sums it up. I just got a Sensation XE, Hong Kong model. It has a lot of crap software on it: youni sms, xda assistant, 通通电话，baidu, kuwo player, and all this other Chinese crap. I hate Chinese software with passion. If skynet was/is real, I believe it would be running a Chinese OS. Chinese software naturally tries to take over your computer or phone.
I want to switch to the stock rom with the least amount of junk on it. If it also has a good Chinese/English keyboard with handwriting input that is a plus.
Also, just to make sure I'm on the right track, this is what should be done before I can change roms, right?
1) Get S-off
2) Install Clockwork Mod
3) Get permanent root
4) Write super cid
5) Change Stock Rom
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the steps are fine ..but 3rd step is not required ...and 2)better have 4EXT recovery ..its better imho and between 4 and 5 there might be one more step ..which can only be decided after you told the current rom you are having (if running gb now ..for ICS you need to flash 3.32/3.33 firmware ..then ROM)
as for the ROM ..for simple STOCK like and fully customized with bloat removed ..try ARHD, insert coin or Elegancia
Hi,
If you go through the steps you mentioned:
1) Get S-off
2) Install Clockwork Mod (Try to get a PG58IMG.zip version of it, saves having to fastboot flash it)
3) Get permanent root
4) Write super cid
5) Change Stock Rom
You could stop at step3 and manuall delete stuff off the ROM you have. OR, what I'd probably do), and as mentioned you can skip step 3 if you're installing a new ROM. Go for a WWE (World Wide English) RUU if you want to keep completely Stock, you can then run ROMcleaner to remove some redundant crap.
Look for something like: RUU_PYRAMID_ICS_HTC_Europe_3.32.401.5_Radio_11.69. 3504.00U_11.22.3504.07_M_release_246089_signed.exe
It's ICS with Sense 3.6. The 401 in the above means it's WWE and will either need SuperCID (11111111) or HTC__001, it's completely unbranded.
You can find ROMcleaner at: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1217664
Thanks for the replies. I know I can root and then uninstall system apps. I don't really like doing that because you just don't know what else has been done to the rom. This Hong Kong rom won't let me use stock SMS (I know how to select default SMS program, it doesn't work on this rom) and doesn't have stock browser (it has some chinese version of Opera), is asking me if I want to invite my contacts to join all kinds of stupid networks, gets involved with my text messages, has some Chinese antivirus that keeps complaining, and all kinds of other crap. It's the worst rom I've ever seen. The WWE appears to be what I'm looking for. It's unbranded and shouldn't have carrier or region specific stuff. Youtube and other apps that don't ask me questions I can deal with.
I want root, for all of it's obvious benefits. I usually run stock, rooted and custom kernal with GPU overclock. But I'm not so sure I like sense, but I want to try a cleaner rom before I decide on sense.
I'm guessing I don't need to do the OTA update before I start the process. I also saw there were some special procedures for the latest ICS. I'll deal with that bridge when I get there. For now I just need a clean rom that doesn't bombard me with useless Chinese crap.
typci said:
Thanks for the replies. I know I can root and then uninstall system apps. I don't really like doing that because you just don't know what else has been done to the rom. This Hong Kong rom won't let me use stock SMS (I know how to select default SMS program, it doesn't work on this rom) or doesn't have stock browser (it has some chinese version of Opera), is asking me if I want to invite my contacts to join all kinds of stupid networks, gets involved with my text messages, has some Chinese antivirus that keeps complaining, and all kinds of other crap. It's the worst rom I've ever seen. The WWE appears to be what I'm looking for. It's unbranded and shouldn't have carrier or region specific stuff. Youtube and other apps that don't ask me questions I can deal with.
I want root, for all of it's obvious benefits. I usually run stock, rooted and custom kernal with GPU overclock. But I'm not so sure I like sense, but I want to try a cleaner rom before I decide on sense.
I'm guessing I don't need to do the OTA update before I start the process. I saw there were some special procedures for the latest ICS. I'll deal with that bridge when I get there. For now I just need a clean gingerbread that doesn't bombard me with useless Chinese crap.
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There are a few WWE GB ROMs out there, the one I mentioned is pretty slick as it's ICS which seems to work better IMHO.
The following is mentioned in post 1776 and there abouts in the following thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1074559
http://shipped-roms.com/index.php?category=android&model=Pyramid
The OP has filefactory as the repository but it never worked for me so I gave up on it, looks like others had the same issue.
Just get a Europe one xxx.401.xxx. Avoid 1.24 if you want to go through OTA updates, I had issues with that, might have been me but .....
The ROMcleaner thing I mentioned is pretty good at removing the HTC extra stuff.
Of course, there are a few very nice custom ROMs out there. I was using Virtuous Inquisition (AOSP look and feel based on Sense but de-sensed as much as possible). I've not tried ARHD/IC and some of the others for a long time so can't comment on them.
Have fun and GL on your quest.
EDIT:
P.S. after applying the RUU you'll need to re-install CWM (again easiest was is if you have a PG58IMG.zip version of it) and then apply the root. It looks like the best root at the moment is SuperSU (reading some posts here from EddyOS).
Thanks again. I'm downloading:
RUU_PYRAMID_LE_ICS_35_S_HTC_Europe_3.32.401.105_R2_Radio_11.69.3504.00U_11.22.3504.07_M_release_253443_signed.exe
Now that I look again the 3.33 version is available, I probably should have downloaded that.
I've already got: ADB drivers, HTC Sync, HTC driver, java, pg58img(recovery.img), CMW 5.0.2.0, revolutionary-0.4pre4, su-2.3.63-efgh, and the unbrick stuff in case something goes wrong. Once I finished downloading the firmware I should be ready to go. I'll double check that all the files are good, re-read all the instructional threads, and then get started. My phone doesn't have a warranty, so I have to make sure everything is done correctly the first time.
I also found this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1459767
Will I need to flash this as well?
HTC phones are so much more complicated compared to the other phones I've rooted and flashed. On my Huawei phone you plugged the phone in to the computer, copied two files, and you were rooted and had CWM installed.
typci said:
Thanks again. I'm downloading:
RUU_PYRAMID_LE_ICS_35_S_HTC_Europe_3.32.401.105_R2_Radio_11.69.3504.00U_11.22.3504.07_M_release_253443_signed.exe
Now that I look again the 3.33 version is available, I probably should have downloaded that.
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The 3.32 contains the 1.27.0000 HBOOT which can be unlocked (just done it myself). The 3.33 contains 1.29.0000 which at the moment cannot be unlocked.
As you're already S-OFF it probably doesn't make much difference. I'm on 3.32 at the moment, I don't know what the differences are between 3.32 & 3.33, I assume minor bug fixes.
I've already got: ADB drivers, HTC Sync, HTC driver, java, pg58img(recovery.img), CMW 5.0.2.0, revolutionary-0.4pre4, su-2.3.63-efgh, and the unbrick stuff in case something goes wrong. Once I finished downloading the firmware I should be ready to go. I'll double check that all the files are good, re-read all the instructional threads, and then get started. My phone doesn't have a warranty, so I have to make sure everything is done correctly the first time.
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Unless you go back to HBOOT 1.18.00 or earlier revolutionary can't help to S-OFF, as you're already S-OFF you shouldn't need it.
Does the PG58IMG.zip you mention contain CWM 5.0.2.0 ?, I usually keep a copy about called PG58IMG-CWM5020.zip, then change the name when I want to install it. The reason I ask is that PG58IMG.zip is a generic name and can be used for many things. You'll need to pop the uSD card when it asks you to reboot.
As far as SU is concerned, look at: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1538053
I also found this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1459767
Will I need to flash this as well?
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No the RUU is self contained and includes the firmware/radio. You might want to install HBOOT 1.27.0011 afterwards, IRC it allows fastboot commands. I think it's in that thread.
HTC phones are so much more complicated compared to the other phones I've rooted and flashed. On my Huawei phone you plugged the phone in to the computer, copied two files, and you were rooted and had CWM installed.
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I know HTC seemed to have created hassles. I had an early Sensation and waiting for someone to work out how to S-OFF was a real pain.
GL
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REMEMBER to take a nandroid backup before you start, just in case ! Also remember that nandroid backups don't include HBOOT or Radio so if you need to revert you'd need to get them. Take a note of the existing baseband/radio & HBOOT.
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Does the PG58IMG.zip you mention contain CWM 5.0.2.0 ?, I usually keep a copy about called PG58IMG-CWM5020.zip, then change the name when I want to install it. The reason I ask is that PG58IMG.zip is a generic name and can be used for many things. You'll need to pop the uSD card when it asks you to reboot
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I found the PG58IMG-CWM5020.zip file you were talking about. I like that idea better.
gol_n_dal said:
REMEMBER to take a nandroid backup before you start, just in case ! Also remember that nandroid backups don't include HBOOT or Radio so if you need to revert you'd need to get them. Take a note of the existing baseband/radio & HBOOT.
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Good point. I'll add that to the list of steps so I don't forget.
1) Setup ADB/fastboot
2) Get S-off
3) Install Clockwork Mod
4) Backup via CWM!!!!
5) Get permanent root
6) Write super cid
7) Change Stock Rom
Unfortunately the rom didn't download correctly, so looks like I won't be installing the rom tonight.
typci said:
I found the PG58IMG-CWM5020.zip file you were talking about. I like that idea better.
Good point. I'll add that to the list of steps so I don't forget.
1) Setup ADB/fastboot
2) Backup via ADB!!!!
3) Get S-off
4) Install Clockwork Mod
5) Backup via CWM!!!!
6) Get permanent root
7) Write super cid
8) Change Stock Rom
Unfortunately the rom didn't download correctly, so looks like I won't be installing the rom tonight.
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The nandroid backup is via ClockworkMod, not certain what you're backing up through ADB/fastboot. Guess you could get Radio/Recovery etc. Never tried it myself, I like a simple life
There is no point applying SuperSU until after you have installed the new Stock ROM. You can change the CID directly with fastboot, it doesn't need root for that.
Shame about the download, at least the steps look about right.
Eek, I thought you already had S-OFF ? What HBOOT are you on at the moment ? If it's 1.18.0000 or earlier revolutionary.io is perfect, if it's later it's a different process.
Note that when you install the new stock rom via RUUxxxx.exe, it'll splat the custom recovery so it'll need to be re-applied.
Umm, I booted into HBOOT to get my HBOOT version and at the top of the screen it says:
PYRAMID PVT SHIP S-OFF RL
HBOOT 1.17.008
RADIO-10.11.9007.15_M
That mean I already had S-OFF, right? Well that was easy.
Actually the phone was smuggled into China to avoid taxes. The sellers probably had to get S-OFF to put a Chinese language rom on there. Which also would explain all the extra bloatware, probably was installed by the same people.
Also, I wasn't able to pull the images through ADB. Have to wait until after rooted.
UPDATE: Installed CWM, backing up now, then root. So far so good. I'll probably have to settle for using Titanium Backup to remove the unwanted apps for now. The second try at downloading the RUU also failed.
UPDATE: Rooted, through it probably was already rooted. Also checked the CID and it was already 11111111. Thanks Chinese smugglers. You did all the work for me. Now to finish uninstalling all the crap you put on my phone.
So actually, the only work I did was install the SU and backup my system.
Nice to see it going smoothly for you, and remember if you want to install ics, you need to flash a ics firmware 3.32 or 3.33. Or you'll be in a boot loop.
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typci said:
Umm, I booted into HBOOT to get my HBOOT version and at the top of the screen it says:
PYRAMID PVT SHIP S-OFF RL
HBOOT 1.17.008
RADIO-10.11.9007.15_M
That mean I already had S-OFF, right? Well that was easy.
Actually the phone was smuggled into China to avoid taxes. The sellers probably had to get S-OFF to put a Chinese language rom on there. Which also would explain all the extra bloatware, probably was installed by the same people.
Also, I wasn't able to pull the images through ADB. Have to wait until after rooted.
UPDATE: Installed CWM, backing up now, then root. So far so good. I'll probably have to settle for using Titanium Backup to remove the unwanted apps for now. The second try at downloading the RUU also failed.
UPDATE: Rooted, through it probably was already rooted. Also checked the CID and it was already 11111111. Thanks Chinese smugglers. You did all the work for me. Now to finish uninstalling all the crap you put on my phone.
So actually, the only work I did was install the SU and backup my system.
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LOL
As you say that was easy.
There are other sites that you can download 3.32.401 from as it's fairly common, have a look.
As you have a nandroid backup that you can recover back to if needed you can also try ROMcleaner.
I'm going to try a Jelly Bean ROM tomorrow so my nandroid backup will be vital )
A really nice fairly lightweight ROM is Virtuous Inquisition. As I said it's AOSP look and feel but has Sense backend, it's been de-sensed as much as possible.
Anyway Have Fun.
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Nice to see it going smoothly for you, and remember if you want to install ics, you need to flash a ics firmware 3.32 or 3.33. Or you'll be in a boot loop.
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I downloaded 3.32 Europe RUU. I plan to install that tonight after work.
typci said:
I downloaded 3.32 Europe RUU. I plan to install that tonight after work.
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The RUU will contain everything you need and update firmware, Radio, Recovery, HBOOT, ..... and of course the ROM.
Remember it'll flatten the ROM so all saved messages, WiFi details etc. will be lost.
If for some reason you need to revert back to your existing ROM you'll need to downgrade the firmware to 1.17.0008, including the radio. I doubt you'll bother though when you're on 3.32.
help
Does Anyone Have
RUU PYRAMID hTC Asia WWE 1.77.708.148
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rafael1369 said:
Does Anyone Have
RUU PYRAMID hTC Asia WWE 1.77.708.148
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1. Don't double post, you posted this somewhere else as well.
2. Go and look in Football's Shipped ROM Collection thread.
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help
I know but it's urgent
how I can upgrade my frimware to3.33.x???
I have install dark forest without upgrade my frimware but my device still in htc logo
s-on
with touch recovery
and rooted
please help mee
If it's that urgent you should spend time familiarize yourself with the search button. There is Asskicker's guide how to flash roms with s-on in the general forum. Plus I gave you a link to RUU's in the other thread you posted in.
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e
matekaneve said:
If it's that urgent you should spend time familiarize yourself with the search button. There is Asskicker's guide how to flash roms with s-on in the general forum. Plus I gave you a link to RUU's in the other thread you posted in.
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e
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Hi
I dont understand what u saied??
What can I do?