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Hi all,
I found out that when I use kyrillos ROM 4.1 OC edition on my samsung galaxy apollo i-5800 then the phone sometimes freezes with only a reboot possible.
It occured to me this happened only in idle (no cpu intensive actions) mode.
With setcpu I raised the lower frequency limit from 83 to 166 Mhz (also in screen-off profile), because I thought the freezing could be related with lower 83 Mhz.
Since then I "never" ran into freezes anymore with my phone...no issues when cpu is between 166 and 1300 mhz (yes no issues even at high clock speed, against all laws ).
I just wanted to share this information for other people having the freezing issue, maybe also on other customized ROMS, just try this min cpu setting if it works for you
BTW I didnt really notice worse battery life with this 'remedy'
Enjoy your phone, it's made for you !!!
Br.
Michel
i5800 freeze
I'm new on this forum, but I'm used to flash my phone.
I got the next problem, I'm running Kyrillos'rom 9.7.1 (update) for 2 weeks.
On my first install of kyrillos my phone freezes when I was 2 minutes working, so I installed setcpu to lower the cpu-speed and It worked.
Now, I had to flash my phone again, because I did something wrong in the system file.
I re-installed the kyrillos 9.7.1 update with Odin, but then, when my phone boots, it almost immediately freezes when I do something.
I don't get the time to install setcpu to lower the freqency
I tried it almost 20 times...
Can anyone help me lowering the frequency?
Thanks!
UPDATE:
It worked, I finaly got into my files to install set cpu! After 30 times rebooting...
But My question is still there, because It's almost impossible for me to flash my phone again now!
Hi,
I have tried different rom + kernel:
cleanrom
ultra fast rom: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1901784
untermensch kernel: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1892326
and still can't oc the cpu to something higher than 1.3ghz
I used the No-frills CPU as well as the antutu cpu master (free version)
for the No-frills cpu, whenever I set the CPU speed to something high (ie. 1.6ghz max and 102mhz min), checked apply on root then apply, it worked fine for a while, but later on when I open no-frills cpu, th e current max and min will reset back to 1.3ghz and 102mhz.
Governor and I/O scheduler is fine though.
Sounds to me like u need to check start on boot..i havent oveclocked mine yet but option should be there where u select governors and such...
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Of course i have checked that it just didnt work
Give Voltage Control a try. It gives you the options to apply on boot or init.d. I use the init.d setting because the phone boots quicker. I had that problem with CPU Master in the past while running it on my phone.
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Will do, however i dont think it's the reboot problem. The problem was, when i set the cpu speed to 1.5 or 1.6 its works fine for an hour or so ( i closed the cpu app, reopen it and the curent seed got set) but then an hour or so, it got resetted back to 1.3 without rebooting the device
redjersey said:
Will do, however i dont think it's the reboot problem. The problem was, when i set the cpu speed to 1.5 or 1.6 its works fine for an hour or so ( i closed the cpu app, reopen it and the curent seed got set) but then an hour or so, it got resetted back to 1.3 without rebooting the device
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Hi !
Overclock automatically deactivates when the device enters in standby !
surdu_petru said:
Hi !
Overclock automatically deactivates when the device enters in standby !
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Ahh, that's what I thought was going on, this is happening to me as well.
treo4life said:
Ahh, that's what I thought was going on, this is happening to me as well.
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Hi!
No, this happens to everyone
However, it seems a pretty good thing - why we need OC - if the device sleep ? :laugh:
- it is also good for battery - !
So i will have to reoverclock it everytime ??
Mine doesn't do this at all. I use CleanROM 3.1, unters kernel and setcpu. No issues.
I guess I know why it's because setcpu has the profile settings allows u to set the CPU speed when screen is on / when screen is unlocked
Othe CPU apps I have tried have no such feature which means oc works when u set it, but when u turn off the screen then turn it on , it will reset back to 1.3ghz
Using setcpu, what I did was set a "screen off" profile to max out at 1700ghz when the screen is off or in sleep mode and it worked for me!!! That way will not default back to stock 1300ghz everytime I hit screen off or sleep mode.
Hello,
I was able to see that a few others have been having this issue (noted in the dev section ) but I wanted to ask if anyone else has noticed that their CPU frequency does not go above 384 mhz after phone comes out of deep sleep?
Using CyanogenMod 11.0 Nightlies with stock kernel. A reboot of the phone makes is speedy again, however if the phone goes to sleep, its super laggy when it it wakes up. ( the only solution I found is to either reboot, or set the minimum frequency and max frequency to be the same 1500 mhz)
Please let me know if I am alone in experiencing this mhz lock to 384 mhz after phone wakes up.
Note: I did a clean flash and I am still having the same issue.
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Hello,
I was able to see that a few others have been having this issue (noted in the dev section ) but I wanted to ask if anyone else has noticed that their CPU frequency does not go above 384 mhz after phone comes out of deep sleep?
Using CyanogenMod 11.0 Nightlies with stock kernel. A reboot of the phone makes is speedy again, however if the phone goes to sleep, its super laggy when it it wakes up. ( the only solution I found is to either reboot, or set the minimum frequency and max frequency to be the same 1500 mhz)
Please let me know if I am alone in experiencing this mhz lock to 384 mhz after phone wakes up.
Note: I did a clean flash and I am still having the same issue.
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change to ondemand in cpu settings, its not the default as to why idk, issue and fix has been posted many times b4.
if it is set to ondemand then you have some other prob or a setting that needs to be adjusted or app running in the background
vincom said:
change to ondemand in cpu settings, its not the default as to why idk, issue and fix has been posted many times b4.
if it is set to ondemand then you have some other prob or a setting that needs to be adjusted or app running in the background
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I actually don't have that as an option for the CPU governor.
All I have available is
Interactive
Conservative
userspace
powersave
performance
All of which cause the same lag issue as what I mentioned. Each nightly flash sets it back to "Interactive" as the default, but since you mention ondemand can you confirm if you can actually see ondemand as an available option to select on your phone using Official CyanogenMod 11.0 Nightlies for Skyrocket ([TeamChopsticks)? I don't have ondemand available.
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I actually don't have that as an option for the CPU governor.
All I have available is
Interactive
Conservative
userspace
powersave
performance
All of which cause the same lag issue as what I mentioned. Each nightly flash sets it back to "Interactive" as the default, but since you mention ondemand can you confirm if you can actually see ondemand as an available option to select on your phone using Official CyanogenMod 11.0 Nightlies for Skyrocket ([TeamChopsticks)? I don't have ondemand available.
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Interactive does usually end up being default, but I believe it was sometime last month where ondemand was removed from that ROM... which was the point where I jumped ship to another ROM.
Cpu Sticks at 384 On Call Or Wake
Hey All Hate to Bump this, but I have been having this same Issue for Months, Has Anyone Come Up With a Solution Other The Changing ROM??
I'm Also Having this "FREEZE" When The Phone screen is off and I get a Call but the Answer screen doesn't come up while the phone rings straight thru to Voice Mail, But if I slide to The right (On The Blank Screen) It answers.... I have messed with the CPU Performance Settings, and No Help....It does it On the Default settings and the Altered Settings??? I Checked the DEV Thread and Really Didn't see much about this....
Any Help Appreciated;
Mike
exhalum said:
I actually don't have that as an option for the CPU governor.
All I have available is
Interactive
Conservative
userspace
powersave
performance
All of which cause the same lag issue as what I mentioned. Each nightly flash sets it back to "Interactive" as the default, but since you mention ondemand can you confirm if you can actually see ondemand as an available option to select on your phone using Official CyanogenMod 11.0 Nightlies for Skyrocket ([TeamChopsticks)? I don't have ondemand available.
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You can use conservative; remember to tick de option "Apply automatically on boot".
franzpimp87 said:
You can use conservative; remember to tick de option "Apply automatically on boot".
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Ya I set it after I made that post and was gonna update today These Settings SEEM to be working extremely well... Will update if it changes..
Governor :Conservative
Min :192
Max:1512
I/O: NOOP
And it's Kinda Strange I/O on NOOP Is Actually throttling the CPU pretty well....Gonna run Like this for awhile and a see how Performance/Battery Use Work Out, And Probably Start Playing with the NOOP Setting, But from my tests it actually seems the most fluid, and Actually drops to 192 when no use....
Mike
Hello,
Mi 4i lags/slows down most of the time, when i check CPU-Z during that time, i can see that only the lower clocked 2/4 cpu cores run constantly at 800 Mhz. It is very difficult to use when it is so slow. Other 4/6 cores remain inactive.
Is there any solution for this weird behavior while running in Balanced mode. Even when switching to Performance mode, nothing changes. I believe due to the heat generated, the OS automatically underclocks the CPU. I have already rooted and tried changing the CPU Governor, Clock speed but it resets to default every time. Sometimes i am unable to change that too.
Thank you.
There's a configuration that does this, just try to use the provided tweaks available here and then configure the phone's cores and so manually.
http://en.miui.com/thread-140563-1-1.html
I tried tweaking the thermal config using the above thread. But still only four cores are active @ 800 Mhz. The phone is so lagging that it is not usable at most of the time. Unable to change governor in any CPU clocking app, turn on the other cores. If you can help me out, please let me know.
Thanks.
Hackerpunk1 said:
There's a configuration that does this, just try to use the provided tweaks available here and then configure the phone's cores and so manually.
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Might be a bug. Try a clean install and see
Same here
I am having a similar issue, very frustrating. I tried Sensei kernel, but no luck
i don't know what do you mean bro
everytime i change to other rom,other kernel
the results is...
all core is on
vijayr2002 said:
Hello,
Mi 4i lags/slows down most of the time, when i check CPU-Z during that time, i can see that only the lower clocked 2/4 cpu cores run constantly at 800 Mhz. It is very difficult to use when it is so slow. Other 4/6 cores remain inactive.
Is there any solution for this weird behavior while running in Balanced mode. Even when switching to Performance mode, nothing changes. I believe due to the heat generated, the OS automatically underclocks the CPU. I have already rooted and tried changing the CPU Governor, Clock speed but it resets to default every time. Sometimes i am unable to change that too.
Thank you.
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strange, i am using miuipro with sensei and havent found any problem.
This happens in the latest stable MIUI7 ROM. I think it is time to change to a custom rom.
i have the 1689mhz bug!!! at random time the MIN freq of the cpu is stuck at 1689mhz andthe max still at 2ghz. ( you can activate on developer options the "show cpu info" toggle)
i cannot change the min value from kernel adiutor, i click on 652mhz but nothing changes, only a REBOOT actually fix the min freq used.
i thought it was a problem of my custom rom resurrection 5.8.3 or the fact i am using kernel adiutor, in fact this app does randomly give CPU LOAD BUG on several devices i mod! sometimes kernel adiutor load my cpu cores at 100% also on light load, but just forceclosing the app the cores return to lower freq.
but the 1689mhz bug is a KERNEL BUG, i read about this bug also on people with stock rom, and the p2a42 phone.... and i have p2c72 hardware phone!!! so this kernel BUG is found in EVERY VERSION of this phone.
please developers, we need a modded kernel that fixes this bug, and why not.......... new i/o schedulers and governors.... and maybe a little undervolt for every cpu freq
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i have the 1689mhz bug!!! at random time the MIN freq of the cpu is stuck at 1689mhz andthe max still at 2ghz. ( you can activate on developer options the "show cpu info" toggle)
i cannot change the min value from kernel adiutor, i click on 652mhz but nothing changes, only a REBOOT actually fix the min freq used.
i thought it was a problem of my custom rom resurrection 5.8.3 or the fact i am using kernel adiutor, in fact this app does randomly give CPU LOAD BUG on several devices i mod! sometimes kernel adiutor load my cpu cores at 100% also on light load, but just forceclosing the app the cores return to lower freq.
but the 1689mhz bug is a KERNEL BUG, i read about this bug also on people with stock rom, and the p2a42 phone.... and i have p2c72 hardware phone!!! so this kernel BUG is found in EVERY VERSION of this phone.
please developers, we need a modded kernel that fixes this bug, and why not.......... new i/o schedulers and governors.... and maybe a little undervolt for every cpu freq
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Haha! Have very less hopes,bcoz some feel that custom kernels are not at all needed! They think that a device wid 2ghz processor doesn't need custom kernel
And btw the post topic is 100% right,bt the place where it's posted is wrong! This should be under discussion section
realista87 said:
i have the 1689mhz bug!!! at random time the MIN freq of the cpu is stuck at 1689mhz andthe max still at 2ghz. ( you can activate on developer options the "show cpu info" toggle)
i cannot change the min value from kernel adiutor, i click on 652mhz but nothing changes, only a REBOOT actually fix the min freq used.
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Yes, thats true. The bug is i think VDD related. Sometimes the VDD switches automatically on, the min CPU freq goes up to 1689 MHz, and can not be lowered until you don't switch off the VDD. You can switch off in Kernel Adiutor/Thermal section, or use the following command :
echo '0' > /sys/module/msm_thermal/vdd_restriction/enabled
I use the KSLABS Schedule! app to run the command every 5 minutes.
I hope this will help you, until we get one bugfree kernel.
u are right
now the bug is MORE AGGRESSIVE THAN EVER............ i rebooted, i attachedthe phone to a charger, arrived 100%, then rest for 1h30min on idle(deep sleep) but when i started using the phone... i checked the frequencies and BOOM....... another time the bug of 1689mhz!!! the battery was 100%......
maybe there is an app that causes this... but which one?
realista87 said:
maybe there is an app that causes this... but which one?
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Which ROM do you use?
I have stock 244, but the method worked for me in 233 too. In the past, I used the Magisk Crossbreeder Lite module to eliminate this problem, but the latest (1.6+) versions made the phone very slow, especially booting.
Vis77 said:
Yes, thats true. The bug is i think VDD related. Sometimes the VDD switches automatically on, the min CPU freq goes up to 1689 MHz, and can not be lowered until you don't switch off the VDD. You can switch off in Kernel Adiutor/Thermal section, or use the following command :
echo '0' > /sys/module/msm_thermal/vdd_restriction/enabled
I use the KSLABS Schedule! app to run the command every 5 minutes.
I hope this will help you, until we get one bugfree kernel.
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can you help me with the console command... but with macrodroid? i don't use that app
edit_ i setted your app, ibut i prefer every 1h to toggle VDD off
realista87 said:
u are right
now the bug is MORE AGGRESSIVE THAN EVER............ i rebooted, i attachedthe phone to a charger, arrived 100%, then rest for 1h30min on idle(deep sleep) but when i started using the phone... i checked the frequencies and BOOM....... another time the bug of 1689mhz!!! the battery was 100%......
maybe there is an app that causes this... but which one?
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Maybe the Kernel adiutor itself cause the high load, as background task make 28-30% cpu load, see the attachment.
But, the 1689 MHz bug still exist. :-\
Vis77 said:
Maybe the Kernel adiutor itself cause the high load, as background task make 28-30% cpu load, see the attachment.
But, the 1689 MHz bug still exist. :-\
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what app do you use to see the % of cpu for each thread?
i don't think that the cause is kernel adiutor... i repeat, a lot of people with 100% stock rom have this bug.....
hey vis could you help me with the string of the scheduler app? i don't understand how to set every 1 hour my previous screenshot i think is wrong because it does not work every 1 h
sorry but the "cron expression" is too much difficult to me to understand.....
EDIT i found how to do every 1h!! 0 0 0/1 1/1 * ? *
thanks to this site!!! http://www.cronmaker.com/
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what app do you use to see the % of cpu for each thread?
i don't think that the cause is kernel adiutor... i repeat, a lot of people with 100% stock rom have this bug.....
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The app name is 3C Toolbox Pro.
Yes the bug is still here, Kernel Adiutor is only different problem.
After reading all your discussion.. I understood that one of you knew solution to stop the bug ,and the other guy learnt how to do it ..
But I don't get a single thing ,what and how you solved that bug
Note : I don't even know that 1698 bug is present , all I know is cpu idle is consuming more power ..
Is this the same thing you guys were discussing?
If yes ..how can a I solve it ? Any walkthrough?for dumb minds like me ...?
nandakis4 said:
After reading all your discussion.. I understood that one of you knew solution to stop the bug ,and the other guy learnt how to do it ..
But I don't get a single thing ,what and how you solved that bug
Note : I don't even know that 1698 bug is present , all I know is cpu idle is consuming more power ..
Is this the same thing you guys were discussing?
If yes ..how can a I solve it ? Any walkthrough?for dumb minds like me ...
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I've made the following observations:
On a fresh install(stock or custom rom(i have not tried Firelord versions)), rooted phone(with Magisk or SuperSU), if you install the Kernel Adiutor, and go to Thermal section the VDD restriction by default is OFF. You can change freely the CPU minimum frequency.
After some hours/days(total random) something switch ON the VDD restriction, the CPU minimun frequency going up to 1698 MHz, and unable to set back the default 652 MHz. If you switch off the screen the cores going to deep sleep, but if you switch on the screen the min. freq. is still 1698 MHZ.
If you manually switch OFF the VDD restriction, the CPU working normal, until switched ON automatically again.
If your phone is not rooted, the only thing what you can notice that the battery is dropping faster than usual, or the phone a bit warmer.
The problem still occurs even if you do not have a program that you can turn on/off the VDD.
The above solution does not repair the problem, it only remedies the symptoms...
I sometimes notice that even though I don't use it, "Google Play Services" consume an unusual amount of battery and will continue to do so unless I reboot the phone. I have never investigated the cause. Might this be related to the 1698MHz bug ?
medwatt said:
I sometimes notice that even though I don't use it, "Google Play Services" consume an unusual amount of battery and will continue to do so unless I reboot the phone. I have never investigated the cause. Might this be related to the 1698MHz bug ?
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I do not think so, but check the status of VDD when you have rooted phone. Sometimes I have too huge battery usage caused by the Google Play Services, but i would suspect first of the Location services. If I use some sport tracker, or navigation app then growing for me the Google Play Services consumption.
Vis77 said:
I do not think so, but check the status of VDD when you have rooted phone. Sometimes I have too huge battery usage caused by the Google Play Services, but i would suspect first of the Location services. If I use some sport tracker, or navigation app then growing for me the Google Play Services consumption.
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My phone is rooted. I will start monitoring VDD. FYI, I don't use any google app (Gmail, Play Store, Maps, etc ...). Location services is also turned off. Sometimes, out of nowhere, I'd see Google Play Services at the top of the battery consumption details. Yesterday, it had a very high CPU consumption time of around 1h (prevented the phone from going to sleep; had 3000+ wakelocks). I had to reboot the phone to get it to stop eating my battery. Usually, Google Play Services use the CPU for a total of 10min on a full charge.
medwatt said:
My phone is rooted. I will start monitoring VDD. FYI, I don't use any google app (Gmail, Play Store, Maps, etc ...). Location services is also turned off. Sometimes, out of nowhere, I'd see Google Play Services at the top of the battery consumption details. Yesterday, it had a very high CPU consumption time of around 1h (prevented the phone from going to sleep; had 3000+ wakelocks). I had to reboot the phone to get it to stop eating my battery. Usually, Google Play Services use the CPU for a total of 10min on a full charge.
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If you don't use it, you can remove what is mentioned on the MicroG Prerequisites page[0].
Some apps nag about it but the only noticable problem I have is messenger lite notifications don't go automaticaly away after replying. Even my banking app keeps working.
[0]https://github.com/microg/android_packages_apps_GmsCore/wiki/Prerequisites