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Ok so I have been going through a lot of the roms and seeing whats really difference between one sense rom to the next sense rom they all seem "stable" "fast" etc. side note here great work to the DEvs for making them btw keep it up.
But I have been running ninja 716 great work too, I'm looking to flash something new. I have flashed cleardroid, androidREV:, Gingerbeast, Cm7 nightly, Virtous,HoneySense HD, MIUI. Idk this may seem really funny but idk I did not see much differences between them lol.. well take that back a few of them seemed laggy, and battery life but thats about it lol..O. and besides the govs and setting for stuff like that. I know its Personal Choice. I just wanted something different and ninja seemed to be the only rom that i see a change,it could be me..most likely it is lol..
So I guess if anyone point out some other roms that is not memory hog like sense? that they like.
O what else is good thats out that you like to add to your roms (if they have mod packs for the rom) besides a new kernel, radio, RIL..
Well thanks for any reply's and suggestions.
I know with ROMs it really comes down to personall opinion.. so what's your personal opinion, go with CM7 or insertCoin, an why did you pick what you picked!
DaClowns said:
I know with ROMs it really comes down to personall opinion.. so what's your personal opinion, go with CM7 or insertCoin, an why did you pick what you picked!
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whenever i wanna use sense its insertcoin and CM7 when i dont wanna. i suggest using IC if you dont wanna deal with all these bugs that are present in CM7 because its only an alpha. Im not saying that CM7 isnt usable, but you might not be satisfied with some missing features
Try both, do a backup, you can always come back. I am running cm7.
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i was on ARHD and im about to flash IC.. im just too new to try CM7, maybe later.
I stick with IC because baad's releases are generally very stable and he's crazy quick to fix stuff when things aren't working. Plus his rom is as fast as any out there. I do play with the CM7 releases but find myself missing some sense stuff like the camera, keyboard, general ease of customization and proper sizing of wallpaper.
I guess CM7 is supposed to be fast, but I really haven't missed much speed with any of the sense roms tbh. As long as I can play the occasional game and emulate PSX smoothly, I really don't care if sense is running in the background and "hogging up resources".
Can i have a link on both CM7 and IC for 2.3.3 Sensation thanks!
MySlimey said:
Can i have a link on both CM7 and IC for 2.3.3 Sensation thanks!
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Go to dev forum and find them. It isn't so hard. Or if you can't, use the search function
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It's all personal preference when it comes down to it. Sense vs. Vanilla. Honestly, I was missing Sense a lot when I switched over to CM7 a few days ago, but the only thing I really miss is the camera, and now I just replaced it with Vignette. If you need the Sense stuff then I'd say go with InsertCoin (I've never used it. I was on ARHD before I went to CM7). I don't really see any of the bugs that people are talking about for CM7 other than not being able to record 1080p without it rebooting on you. One thing I did find though is that my battery meter isn't exact and it's kind of annoying me and I can't figure out how to fix it.
Try both, and do nandroid backups. I'd say a day or two on both and you'll know which one you want.
Depends on your preferences. If you like have all the sense goodies you can flash the IC right now, expecially the new sense3.5 version is really stable and fast, else if you like have an android stock experience with low impact on your device resources and an incredible high responsive system CM7 is the way to go.
This said, i must underline the fact that in CM7 there are some thing that must be tuned up and are sightly less enjoyable and pratical compared to the Sense rom's equivalent sector. EG: the camera in CM7 does really bad when it comes to some shot that goes beyond the typical photo, and the addition of the touch to focus in the last version is not enough to close the gap, and this occurs also in social integration and some other aspect.
Generally i choose a sense rom, but i remove al the bloatware (watch, locations in primis) with TitaniumBackup and i'm just fine. With the last IC i have 190mb of RAM free in idle, and a surprisingly responsive phone, wich is great for me.
PS: i hope my english is good enough, it is some time i don't practice it up now
I am a bit new to all this. Have rooted my sensation. Looking forward using IC roms!
stanleynhan said:
whenever i wanna use sense its insertcoin and CM7 when i dont wanna. i suggest using IC if you dont wanna deal with all these bugs that are present in CM7 because its only an alpha. Im not saying that CM7 isnt usable, but you might not be satisfied with some missing features
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CM7 is basically bug free. If it were any other CM dev it'd be classified as an RC...
What are "all the bugs"?
I alternate alot between incertcoin and cm7 I just can't decide I love them both. It depends on what you like.
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Now which ROM between the two, is the way to go for speeds?
And what are the pros and Cons of each of the 2, IN YOUR OPINION!
For speed ? I would say cm7 with out a doubt
Pros about cm7. Nice interface, minimalistic design, fast, snappy ,cm7 theme chooser, Cyanogenmod settings! Close to stock and very light
Cons- still has a few bugs. Dialer ,camera
Bland compared to sense
Ic pros- has Sense , is really smooth and plenty fast for most, camera ,dialer , lockscreen,nice widgets and ui ,keyboard ,might have beats depending on the Rom you get, some other HTC apps. Nice animations and effects.
Cons- its quite heavy so not as snappy as cm7 but insert coin is really smooth.
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I've tried both and I can say I prefer IC, But after all it really comes to what features you want from your phone, I really recommend you to try both or even other great roms that are offered on XDA.
I personally prefer Sense 3.5 (Therefor IC) because of the awesome widgets and how they integrate with the system.
If you are looking for speed and speed only my advice is go and flash CM7 right now. But, if you care something about social integration, camera, better ui/animation and a set of truely useful and integrated widgets take some time on the IC and judge if it's fast enough for you
Or you can use boot manager and have the best of both worlds.
I have a 3D, but since the sensation is very similar I could honestly say cm would fly on you guys device. Not trying to be bias but on another note I think that AOSP is more healthier for are phones.
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I'd choose CM7 because I'm used to it.
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Or you can use boot manager and have the best of both worlds.
I have a 3D, but since the sensation is very similar I could honestly say cm would fly on you guys device. Not trying to be bias but on another note I think that AOSP is more healthier for are phones.
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You're probably right, but no one can make me give up my Sense.
I, I love my Sense like a love song, baby. And I keep hittin repeat peat peat peat peat
CM7 is quick, but that's like saying u slept with the uglier chick because she was skinnier.
Praos of CM7 are that it's fast, consistent, and backed with high qual developers with stringent standards.
Cons are that all of these CM7 devs are so Spartan in their barebones approach that the phone is lacking in some areas. Not having a full functioning camera that can record hd vid was a dealbreaker for me. I also found that I missed the Sense keyboard.
I had CM7 on my Sensation for one day. It was very fast, especially the boot time was very short.
The interface is ok, but not as nice as Sense. I love Sense, although it is not that fast, i dont know. As I had several reboots with CM7, I switched so the new Stock with Sense 3.5.
Later, when Lee is back, I will go back to LeeDroid. Had there some random reboots, too. Hopefully he adds Sense 3.5
The rom scene for the Desire S is pretty cluttered right now, with loads of different roms out there.
Can anyone tell me which roms offer Sense 3.5 but also minimalist in terms of apps in stalled?
I want as clost as possible to default android, but with sense 3.5 as I like the widgets and can't bare of the other launchers like launcher pro and and go launcher.
Thanks
Honestly best way is to get stuck in and make your own decision. We all have different preferences. Anything you find you do not need with a custom ROM, freeze/delete with TB. Or remove it from the .zip before flashing if it is safe to do so.
Personally I have tried only one Sense 3.5 ROM, RCMix. Runs very nicely with excellent battery life and no clutter in the apps department. But you may disagree.
RhymeS v1's sense is perfect but has some problems like BT and Hotspot.
Thanks in advance for any help you fine chaps may (or may not!) provide.
Been lurking for quite a while. My brother rooted and put Cyanogen on my MyTouch3G about a year ago, and now that I'm on Senny for 60 days, I've about had it with the clutter and bloatware that came with the phone.
What I'm looking for:
- A sleek, sexy look. This will probably involve installing the ICS theme at some point.
- Minimalist. Seriously. I use like 20-25 apps. Maybe. If I don't use it, get it the hell off my phone.
- Good Camera. My phone is my social line. I take pictures of my cat, record idiots in the parking lot, and use it like a mirror all the frakkin time.
- Good Performance. Shouldn't need to be stated on a forum like this, but yes.
- Good Battery Life. Alas, the Stock Battery life has much to be desired of on the Sensation, but much can be fixed through a 1730 battery and judicious Modding.
What I'm not Looking for:
- The 2009 Android Look. Seriously. We're beyond that. Lockscreen Widgets, beautiful status bars, I need it, I want it. It's why I pay for a nice phone.
- So Barebones that I have to call a Bishop and pray to 7 saints in order to find settings or get to commonly used features.
Unfortunately, I think I'm going to have to part ways with HTC Sense. It's certainly a beautiful program. (I love the lock ring. I've embraced it and loved it since the first day. Goodbye, ring.) Unfortunately, many of you claim (and some others yet prove) that the Sense is a leech upon the Android system and needs to be purged. Up onto the altar now Sense. Yes. You. Shoo. Time for the sacrifice.
With that in mind, I've been recommended to use:
Reverted (The expansion on Xboarder's Mod). Looks interesting enough to try.
On the forums I've seen and have interest in:
HyperSensation
Cyanogen7 Basic
The drawbacks to the first is that it's still pretty deep in development it seems (Reverted, despite Xboarder's being pretty complete.) I also have heard that ADW Launcher has issues on it.
I'm intrigued by HyperSensation, but am not too keen on the theming styles for it.
I have experience with Cyanogen, but again, it's just the base that most people work from. Not the best necessarily, but stable and reliable.
Does anyone have any recommendations, thoughts, or advice, regarding a ROM that may suit my interests, or thoughts to persuade or dissuade me from my current three interests? I do this mostly to save time - I work in Retail at the moment, and being the Christmas season, I have little time to be fiddling around every night installing a different ROM.
Last, but not least. If I do find myself having to install different ROM's repeatedly, what's the best way to backup and restore my essential data between wipes? Can Titanium Free do everything I need?
Many thanks again, ladies, gentlemen, and newly self aware mechanical constructs!
I'd love to recommend one of the Sense ROMs but you said you are done with them. Perhaps a half-way point is to install one and then "de-sense" it. You get some of the better parts of things but have a lighter look and feel. In the dev section there are a number of ways to lighten the ROMs or you could just start flashing things like crazy Sense or not and see what sticks. I have two HTC Sensation 4Gs thanks to a mistake with tmobile so one runs CM7 alpha 10 and the other is now running InsertCoin (today). I've pretty much given in to the fact that the very first app I install is titanium backup and then I restore my apps. I also do nandroid backups very often so I have a known place to get back to.
My advice fwiw. Just start flashing, testing, removing, re-installing. Just go crazy with the new Sense ROMs and CM7. Something will stick unless you are like some of the rest of us and just want to flash things at some regular pace
I do like some of the Sense ROMs though. The Energy Sense ROM is very nice and I like Insert Coin and ARHD quite a bit. CM7 wins me over though and I still have a G2/Vision phone which has a CM7 nightly on it which I swap the simcard to every so often because I like that phone too.
Give 'em all a try and then come back in some days or a week. Then all of the developers will release new stuff. Its an agonizing circle of downloading, reading, fixing, wishing.
And I enjoy every minute of it.
I suppose my next question would be, what is the limit to which I can Mod an existing ROM.
Say for instance I wanted to use basic CM7 or Reverted's Mod, but install Amaze Cam, a new SMS Mod, and an ICS theme on top of that.
Is that possible? Or would it change the ROM / make it unusable?
I highly suggest Coredroid 2.7 That's what i have and it has the looks that no other rom has.. it's fast and isn't overloaded.. It's a beauty.. Atleast go look at it =D http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1195902
I don't believe you can have the Amaze Cam without Sense and it's worth noting that CM7 on Sensation is reported to have some camera issues (which can perhaps be eased with different cam mods/apps). I can't verify this, although I use CM7 and like it very much, I've never once used the camera, it's simply not one of the features I really need on my handheld.
If you want "the most toys" but without the sense bloat, you are probably best getting one of the Sense based ROMs that has a lot of the sense interface removed. ARHD is highly used and comes well recommended, so you could try that.
See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1098849 and look for post #4 for the de-sensed version.
Is it possible to theme Sense-based ROM's to look like ICS at all?
Edit: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=19451428
Is there any reason that Theme from Desire wouldn't work on Sensation?
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I don't believe you can have the Amaze Cam without Sense and it's worth noting that CM7 on Sensation is reported to have some camera issues (which can perhaps be eased with different cam mods/apps). I can't verify this, although I use CM7 and like it very much, I've never once used the camera, it's simply not one of the features I really need on my handheld.
If you want "the most toys" but without the sense bloat, you are probably best getting one of the Sense based ROMs that has a lot of the sense interface removed. ARHD is highly used and comes well recommended, so you could try that.
See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1098849 and look for post #4 for the de-sensed version.
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I would echo the ARHD recommendation. You can kill of Sense if you like, but it is pretty clean even with it.
- Computerslayer
I jump back and forth between ARHD, InsertCoin and P3D, though less of that last one lately. They're all Sense-based, but you can rid yourself of many Sense things by just using a custom Launcher, like GoLauncher. That way you can still have a functional camera (likely an issue, I hear, in CM7), and keep the lock screen.
Also, I know you said Titanium Backup Free would do the job, but if you do fork over the $6 for the premium version, all the restore installs are silent... that is, you don't need to click "INSTALL" and "DONE" for each one. The apps and their data are installed in the background. It's the best $6 I've ever spent on an app.
Hm Reverted or any of the other CM-based builds sound like what you're looking for except for the camera part since they all use the ****ty aosp camera.
Miui is pretty solid, but Scott and TD are still working on porting the miui cam. But until then, it also has the ****ty aosp cam. But until ics becomes reality for us, this is what I'm waiting for.
In the meantime, I desensed AHRD with this script and it's actually pretty decent. Plus you get to keep the lockscreen and sense cam. If you really wanted an ics look, you could replace the included Launcher Pro with ICS Launcher. Don't get confused with the term "desense" though. Sense is still there. Scripts like these just get rid of Rosie and delete all of the HTC widgets and extras.
OpenSensation is almost done. Great work Vorbeth an Sc2k. I think im switching to OpenS from virtuous inquisition and im sure im not the only one. No more sense based garbage
Cool, but Sense based roms aren't garbage. Sense can be sometimes, but stripped roms are good work. If video recording is fixed, I'll join you.
EDIT: So HD video recording is there. Jumping ship to CM9. lol.
hey man, you have an htc, sense is just for us, no one can have it...
htc without sense is just another phone, like others...
anyway, aosp is good framework
I totally agree, CM9 is pretty much the best ROM on our phone now
It's pretty awesome, but I do miss the Sense camera. Focusing is much better on it for some reason.
I always switch from going from CM to MIUI in trying to find what it the best ROM. I'm loving the MIUI ICS right now. I do like stock android but MIUI is beautiful and doesn't get in the way. All you have to do is put a launcher of your choice (hate stock MIUI launcher) and you are good to go.
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Until the Camera on CM9 is as good as the one on Sense, I'm sticking with Sense. With a custom kernel and some tweaks on Spare Parts, this phone really flies.
Glad to hear it. I've been avoiding CM9 until someone said something along these lines. I'm always on the lookout for an awesome AOSP Rom, so I guess I'll be downloading soon.
Try Hypernonsense. It is a good in between, stripped sense with AOSP theme and it used the sense camera. Closest rom to CM9 and it is a bit snappier IMO.
The only downside is it lost support couple days ago.
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hey man, you have an htc, sense is just for us, no one can have it...
htc without sense is just another phone, like others...
anyway, aosp is good framework
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sense is awful... its like saying that china has communism and no one else can have it... no one else wants it
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Until the Camera on CM9 is as good as the one on Sense, I'm sticking with Sense. With a custom kernel and some tweaks on Spare Parts, this phone really flies.
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What's wrong with the cm9 camera? Works fine for me and now we got 1080p.
Had Sense 2 months on my phone. Phone felt bloated and slow on 2.3.3 and Sense 3.0. Switched to AOSP. CM7 then virtous inq then CM9. Maybe 4.0.3 with Sense 3.6 is better and snapier but had no time to test it. The only thing i like about Sense ROMS is the CAMERA. Better quality! Touch to focus while recording a video! Amazing, but we cant have it all.
I also agree with throcker.