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Hey guys,
I am coming from a G1 which I got from craigslist that I did not think twice about rooting. Now, I bought my captivate brand new and am over all pleased. The thing that drives me crazy is I would flash my g1 constantly. I liked the tinkering aspect. My question is at this point, are the custom roms out for the captivate worth rooting?
Keep in mind, I really do not notice lag on my phone and the GPS works fine for what I use it for. I also use the sideload wonder machine to load non market apps.
If you like to tweak - Designgears and others are pushing ROM builds like crazy.
Personally I will probably never run the phone stock again.
avgjoegeek said:
If you like to tweak - Designgears and others are pushing ROM builds like crazy.
Personally I will probably never run the phone stock again.
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Right on, looks likes I am going to root my phone when i get home and see what I can load up. Thanks.
If you are happy with your phone and it does what you need it to do there is no reason to do anything. Look at what the custom ROMs have to offer and if there is anything you really think you would miss not having.
I'm personally running Con 2.2beta4 and have been running what dg has been putting out since SRE 1.2 or so, but I'm the kind of person who likes to tinker
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Hey guys,
I am coming from a G1 which I got from craigslist that I did not think twice about rooting. Now, I bought my captivate brand new and am over all pleased. The thing that drives me crazy is I would flash my g1 constantly. I liked the tinkering aspect. My question is at this point, are the custom roms out for the captivate worth rooting?
Keep in mind, I really do not notice lag on my phone and the GPS works fine for what I use it for. I also use the sideload wonder machine to load non market apps.
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Well, that's up to you, if you're pleased with your current setup, there's no need to.
Keep in mind stock rom with no lag fix gave me 900 on quadrant..
i9000 jg8 eclair rom (not recommanded unless you have a good reason for that specific rom) with reoriented kernel gave me 2200, and now, with cognition beta 4 I get about 1900 with lag fix, but it feels fast enough for me
and there's awesome flash support.
Stock setup is not using half of the potential of this phone if you ask me,
but if you're happy with it there's no need to risk it, you can always
brick it by accident if you flash (even though I flashed it a lot and unbricked it too many times but seems like some people managed to brick it completely..)
Unlike most of you guys I don't have a warranty, I'm living outside the u.s so I can't just go to at&t store and I paid for this phone
more than 650$ in cash and I still take the risk and flash it, I admit, I'm addicted.
So, I went ahead and rooted my phone and I have loaded a few roms already. Now I remember why I like android phones so much, heh.
quadrant doesnt matter.
if you like customization i say root. if you are in the know, then you should definitely root and customize
orlandoxpolice said:
quadrant doesnt matter.
if you like customization i say root. if you are in the know, then you should definitely root and customize
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I ended up at the stock firmware rooted, OCLF (honestly, besides the benchmarks, the phone does seem to be less laggy), stock lock screen and minus all of the ATT bloatware.
I feel silly for not rooting my phone before because this is exactly how I wish the phone was from the get go.
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I ended up at the stock firmware rooted, OCLF (honestly, besides the benchmarks, the phone does seem to be less laggy), stock lock screen and minus all of the ATT bloatware.
I feel silly for not rooting my phone before because this is exactly how I wish the phone was from the get go.
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yea im running cog 2.1.7 and it is blazing fast
hell yeah its worth rooting! im still debating to go to 2.2 or not, but im on cog 2.1.5 right now and its hella worth it
After using about 20 different roms I discovered that that I like it the way it came. Although, I did root it to use any rooted only apps, lol.
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knotrkr said:
After using about 20 different roms I discovered that that I like it the way it came. Although, I did root it to use any rooted only apps, lol.
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Have you tried a Sense cleaned up (bloatware) ROM? In any case, you might want to use Titanium to at least freeze some of the bloatware apps. You should still be able to get the OTA 2.3 update if/when HTC/TMo finally gets around to it.
I am not sure if being rooted will prevent that.
root on stock ROM shouldnt prevent it. although you will probably lose root. good idea to wait to update and see what the devs say about any new update. losing root to a new update isnt cool because you never know how long it will take for some one to figure out how to root again.
I am with you. I have not tried nor want to try any roms. I really like the default rom as is. I came from the HD2 where I flashed so many different roms, I ended up staying with a version of the mytouch 4g. Then I went and bought a real mytouch 4g and love it. I also rooted to get rid of the crappy apps. No problem with keeping it as is. People will always try and talk you into flashing a custom, but to be honest this is the first time I never have had any bugs or issues that I had to live with until the "next update".
same here...no matter how many different ROMS I flash, I always end up going back to the stock MySense. I did have a great experience with Orange Sense tho, pure sense and blazing fast thanks to Faux
Totally with you guys, after flashing several roms, trying to get them to work properly, then ending up too frustrated to continue, went right back to stock rom. rooted and removed bloatware. now happy as can be.
Same deal here. I came from the HD2 running android as well with the MT4G build, then I just bought the real deal. Mainly for the wifi calling and the front camera for the video calling. I gave the HD2 to my daughter and for some reason just last week the touch screen stopped working,, for windows and android. So there sending me a replacement, it should be here sometime this week. Does any of you know if I can use HP3 to flash roms and android builds? cuz I did use HD2 and Now I can't find it but I did find HD3. I waS Just wondering if they did the same thing. but I'm glad to hear i'm not the only one who digs the stock sense. I thought I was the only one.. LOL.. although now that CM7 is officially out I may give it a look... but I'm sure as always i'll end up back with stock.. and hopefully we'll get the honeycomb upgrade or the 2.3 sooner or later..
I'm also happy with the Stock Sense Rom, so happy in fact that I haven't rooted yet lol. My last phone was a mytouch 3g, which I rooted a few months into owning it, because with that phone there were so many glitches and so much lag that you had to root it to get it to work decently. And I wound up flashing a bunch of sense roms lol. But with this phone, it pretty much works and does everything I need it to out of the box.
With that said, do you guys really think it's still worth it to root for the non-rom-flashing benefits? i.e. setcpu and removal of bloatware? For my needs, I don't really feel like I need to overclock the phone, but I like the idea of underclocking to save battery...also, while the bloatware apps are annoying, it's not like they have taken away any functionality of the phone...I know everyone here's MO is "ROOT ASAP" but it seems like it's a little more complicated than it was for the MT3G, and while I'm not an idiot, I'm not really a tech-whiz either lol. Just not sure if it's worth the trouble and risk if I don't want/need to flash different roms.
I ran stock for a month and used ADW Launcher EX (normal version does this also) in order to hide the bloatware from the app drawer. This phone has so much power that for me it was out of sight out of mind with bloatware. I would assume LPP and other home replacement apps would have similar functions.
I flashed around a bit after rooting but always came back to stock, but then I switched to Orange Glacier by Faux123. It's stock, just quicker and debloated with some system apps moved in case you want to remove them also. IMO it's a bit better, but I still haven't decided how life changing it is His kernels def are.
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I'm also happy with the Stock Sense Rom, so happy in fact that I haven't rooted yet lol. My last phone was a mytouch 3g, which I rooted a few months into owning it, because with that phone there were so many glitches and so much lag that you had to root it to get it to work decently. And I wound up flashing a bunch of sense roms lol. But with this phone, it pretty much works and does everything I need it to out of the box.
With that said, do you guys really think it's still worth it to root for the non-rom-flashing benefits? i.e. setcpu and removal of bloatware? For my needs, I don't really feel like I need to overclock the phone, but I like the idea of underclocking to save battery...also, while the bloatware apps are annoying, it's not like they have taken away any functionality of the phone...I know everyone here's MO is "ROOT ASAP" but it seems like it's a little more complicated than it was for the MT3G, and while I'm not an idiot, I'm not really a tech-whiz either lol. Just not sure if it's worth the trouble and risk if I don't want/need to flash different roms.
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I waited around 10 days before I rooted my phone just to get a nice feel of how things ran. yes I would definitely root if I were you. if you dont want to uninstall the bloatware, you can just freeze them with titanium. setcpu with a custom kernel underclocking with screen off will improve battery life as well(only OC to play games or view videos)
hello guys, this is my first time using a android phone. I like the stock Rom but i hate how slow the phone is running. Is there a way for me to overclock the phone and get rid of the awful bloatware tmo put in this thing?
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hello guys, this is my first time using a android phone. I like the stock Rom but i hate how slow the phone is running. Is there a way for me to overclock the phone and get rid of the awful bloatware tmo put in this thing?
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Download ice or royal glacier.
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So I had a galaxy s phone and rooting it made a hugh performance improvement. How much better do you like your phone if rooted? Whats the best feature you like?
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I wouldn't like it if it wasn't...
Although I may not see a huge PERFORMANCE increase with root, my battery does, low volt kernels baby
And I couldn't make my own boot animations, I know... Dumb but I like it...
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I bought the thunderbolt Tuesday evening...it was rooted and alpha CM7 loaded before I went to bed that night...
Just looking at the size of an AOSP rom vs other roms...I always ask how can it not be a performance increase...then well custom kernels, voltage regulators, and all the other nifty awesome tools and tricks that can be used....
At this point I can't own a phone that isn't rooted and customized to my "own" specifications. Making something mine is a huge thing for me in general...
I rooted not for the performance increase (or havent used those features yet), but more to try out custom rom's and remove bloatware that came with the phone
Yea the bloat on this thing is crazy!
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I cant seem to own an unrooted android phone for the reasons below...
Titanium backup, creating full backups in recovery, wifi tether, low voltage kernels, debloat, customizing the rom, and just wanting to try the latest and greatest leaked roms for fun.
I got the phone on launch day and liked sense at first, but then after trying CM7 on the thunderbolt I realized how much I missed Vanilla Android on my OG Droid. Now it's my daily driver and I would have a hard time using the phone unrooted without the ability to tether, use CM7, or overclock. Not having bloatware is a big plus as well.
Rooting it was the first thing I did after I got the phone. I didn't get into flashing the ROMs until das bamf 1.4 release. Now I keep 3 ROMs in CWR; bamf 1.6.2 (my daily), bamf 2b5, CM7. I like the fact that the bloat is minimized and the phone lasts a lot longer than the stock. Ability to use wifi tether is a huge plus as well.
O Root, Root! wherefore art thou Root?
Deny thy father and refuse thy name...
Couldn't help it. Anyhow, root for sure. The quesiton shouldn't be "why should I root," but rather, "why shouldn't I root?" (To which the only two reasons I can give are that you void your warranty and could brick your phone.)
Rooted with an unlocked bootloader is the only way I like my device! Customization possibilities are then endless thanks to the wonderful developers here at xda and other prominent android community sites. I feel so strongly about a rootable device with an unlocked bootloader (either from the manu or completely hacked like the thunderbolt).
So, the features I like best are probably the ones that are being developed right now.
I've reviewed some of the ROM comments and browsed around on the net but can't seem to come to a conclusion on if I should root my device or not. I had a T-mobile G2 before and it was rooted. I loved testing out other roms and finding ones that works best as well as obviously the boosts in speeds.
The Sensation to me feels more complete and aside from some useless apps and the occasional glitchy things that happen with it I'm pretty satisfied overall.
Can anyone provide some positive user experiences with rooting their devices or if some of the roms correct some of the known issues with the Sensation reliable without causing other issues lol?
I'm really up in the air about this and can't decide, what do you guys think?
I rooted my sensation just Cos I did the same to my old x10 mini, I found rooting it was easy following the guide on here and flashing new roms is easy too, all I can suggest is that you read the instructions, try different roms to see which one works for you and don't forget that rooting voids your warranty
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When flashing custom roms are you losing all installed apps each time and finding you need to restore via titanium? I ask because I've seen threads say you do and don't lose your installed apps and data.
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johnny0313x said:
I've reviewed some of the ROM comments and browsed around on the net but can't seem to come to a conclusion on if I should root my device or not. I had a T-mobile G2 before and it was rooted. I loved testing out other roms and finding ones that works best as well as obviously the boosts in speeds.
The Sensation to me feels more complete and aside from some useless apps and the occasional glitchy things that happen with it I'm pretty satisfied overall.
Can anyone provide some positive user experiences with rooting their devices or if some of the roms correct some of the known issues with the Sensation reliable without causing other issues lol?
I'm really up in the air about this and can't decide, what do you guys think?
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Heyya,
I'm pretty new here and my experience with android devices was 0 up to three weeks ago when i decided to buy the sensation. I then stumbled upon XDA dev forum and now i'm hooked .
I decided to root and flash a custom rom three days after getting the phone... as far as eye candy goes Sense is brilliant but the functionality is 0.
The whole process of installing clockwork, perm rooting and flashing a custom rom took exactly twenty minutes and was no hassle at all.
At the moment i run P3d Neon-No Sense and the phone is a whole lot better. Battery life is double, RAM consumption is 1/2 and overall the performance is great.
So... my advice... root and flash away!
Thanks jeryko that's the kinda thing I was looking to hear. The sensations touch screen is the only reason I'm Leary about voiding the warrenty with rooting. If you unroot the device can they still tell?
I love sense I think it integrates things nicely and visually (with the exception of a few minor things) and gives a way more polished premium feel to devices. However as stated above it does bog down the phone a bit...even with the dual core. HTC really should have added 1gb of ram I think. Overall though my phones not slow just sometimes a little stutter here and there.
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ive rooted my sensation, well i at least i did / was rooted before the update came out. to be honest i haven't seen any reason to reroot. i still have a unlocked boot loader but the urge to root and flash roms isnt really there for me yet. this is probably because i am happy with sense 3.0 and the phone doesnt lag for me at all after the latest update. the only real thing that will probably get me to root again is when a good aosp rom releases or CM7. i really miss having then bluetooth capabilities of a stock aosp rom
No problem. Well... the sensation has it's drawbacks but price/quality it's definitely worth the money.
About the warranty issue... can't really tell you... I've read on the forum that you can Switch back to stock rom and kernel and S-ON again but the procedure (for S-ON) is a bit risky and frankly i have no clue if after you go through all that there's any way of telling that the phone has been tampered with... you'll have to ask the older and wiser folks around here for a knowledgeable answer.
Root it, stop delaying the inevitable.
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occasional glitchy things that happen with it
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And that's why I don't regret going s-off and flashing custom ROMs. Root just comes with the territory.
Funny thing, I went custom on my Sensation within the first week while I left my wife's stock. Fast forward three weeks later, I was pretty satisfied with the speed and stability on my phone. I pick up my wife's phone and unlock it to surf the net. First thing that happens? Random restart and back to the HTC splash screen. Really?? I'd totally forgotten about the random restarts and choppy home screen scrolling. Ended up s-offing that thing and flashing a custom ROM that same night. She hasn't complained about her phone since.
I'm so tempted....you guys are evil lol Seriously though the only thing holding me back is the warrenty being voided. I didn't care so much with my G2(that thing was the most reliable phone ever) but the sensation is still new and I'm skeptical about how long the hardware will keep up and all. My biggest complaint would be the volume on some things ...everything else works great though except an occasional lack of response until I lock and unlock the phone...which is rare.
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The ONLY reason I rooted was to remove the apps I don't want to use. I'm running my own ROM which is a basic version of 1.45.401.2 with all the crap I don't want removed. If it didn't have the **** on the ROM in the first place I probably wouldn't have bothered to root it
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The ONLY reason I rooted was to remove the apps I don't want to use. I'm running my own ROM which is a basic version of 1.45.401.2 with all the crap I don't want removed. If it didn't have the **** on the ROM in the first place I probably wouldn't have bothered to root it
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Agreed....
I unlocked the bootloader as soon as I could and started loading custom ROMs. I've been running the P3D ROM (Sense version) for a few weeks now, and it's doubled my battery life plus it's faster. My brother has his Sensation still S-ON stock (latest OTA update) and we compared it side by side and we both agreed mine is noticeably faster. I also like the blue neon theme with that ROM.
Even that particular ROM aside, I've had generally better battery life with anything other than the stock ROM. That alone is enough reason to do it IMO.
Link to P3D ROM:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1206746
Ok I know that I am a noob to rooting and installing roms. Currently I am on my second one Android Revolution HD™ 3.0.3. Rooting it was the best thing I've done. i wish I would have gotten the balls to root years ago!
Hi, I know I asked earlier but when you flash a new Rom do you lose all your apps and data? I see many people flashing new roms weekly and daily and am just wondering how you deal with all your apps and data. I can't imagine everyone starting from scratch each time. I know titanium can do a batch restore, is that what everyone does? (Sorry for my noobish behavior in this thread.)
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I am very happy with my rooted Sensation. My previous phone was a rooted Nexus One. I can say that rooting is a great way of customizing your phone to your liking.
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Hi, I know I asked earlier but when you flash a new Rom do you lose all your apps and data? I see many people flashing new roms weekly and daily and am just wondering how you deal with all your apps and data. I can't imagine everyone starting from scratch each time. I know titanium can do a batch restore, is that what everyone does? (Sorry for my noobish behavior in this thread.)
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Titanium batch, best app purchase for the crack flasher. I timed myself, 30 mins tops to go from one rom to another
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+1 for Titanium batch! A must for all heavy Flashers
We should have root access out of the box. Too much fun stuff, but impossible to find a ROM perfect for you. Your going to tweak something eventually
just got my sensation 4g still in box..first thing on to do list is "root it and boot it"
currently running HTC HD2 with ndt miui rom...love it but got to have that 4g
I am interested in potentially owning a G2X and I have been doing research on it.
I hear that it freezes all the time, text don't come through, and it is just a pain.....and then i hear people have no problems with it at all.
Is it really that bad? I don't really care about specs or else i'd get a sensation, amaze or galaxy s2.
It is free right now(Along with the Sidekick 4g...which i was considering getting but i've heard even worse stuff about that one)
But is this phone truly that bad?
It really depends on what you are going to do with it.
If you are planning on rooting it and installing a custom rom, kernel, etc then a lot of those issues will be fixed and the phone will operate very well.
On the other hand if you arent going to root it then it has got some serious problems. The code on this phone is ****, so that potentially leads to a lot of problems. Basically if you are not going to root it, i would not suggest it.
In the end this phone has serious potential and that potential can be unlocked if you root it and add roms, but if not it has too many problems and just isnt worth the hassle.
I've never had a single problem with my g2x. I think most of the issues are in the early production ones.
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I had mine for over 5 months before i rooted it and installed CM. The issues were minimal for me and i loved the device. Why did i end up rooting it and putting on a custom rom? Not to fix issues, but to be daring (using the term loosely here), and have fun with my device. I actually liked it so much, I bought a second. What were my issues? Lockups now and again, but it seemed to be heat related (ie when plugged in while driving my car), causing to remove the battery and turn it back on. Never had an issue with texts not coming through.
I also got my original for free...and to me, the random battery pull wasn't a show stopper (my palm running WebOS would lock up too now and again) and was easily overlooked due to the specs and capabilities of the device.
On a side note...I still see a random battery pull with CM installed, so custom roms isnt a fix all for this device either...but i still love it(them). Other roms may address other issues, but I havent tried any others so i cant say from personal experience. I have also played with a Sidekick 4G...negative captain...it drove me crazy.
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You'll be fine man. Most of those problems occurs in the first batch of G2x' when it first came out. Good luck.
I don't believe that'd true, I had g2x 2 weeks since release. I think people just don't know how to use a phone.
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I don't believe that'd true, I had g2x 2 weeks since release. I think people just don't know how to use a phone.
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So you are saying there's no bad productions of this phone and they all have no issues despite all the reported common problems people have experienced?
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I will put it this way, if I had the chance to get this phone for free with my past experience with it, is a yes. Would I pay 200$ and re-up on my contract... not a chance in hell. With the SGS II out right I would go for that or an HTC phone. For free this phone is more then good enough though.
Free G2X? Worth it.
Making bad decision's one at a time.
I would say if you get the phone and put Cyanogenmod on it, it's awesome, when I stuck with the stock ROM, it would freeze overnight, now that I have Cyanogenmod I have no problems whatsoever
My g2x is very stable overclocked to 1.6 with morphic's kernel. Cyanogenmod with the Trinity kernel is stable, fast, and very fun.
I paid for mine and it was worth every penny.
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If you are getting this phone for free DO IT! In the end the phone works great and plays every game I load up, rooting and adding a custom rom is a must, I find that weapon is a good rom for the average user, the only thing I didnt like was the back cover but thats just me being picky
i think i was one of the lucky ones to get the first of the 2nd batch of the g2x. i did not have any problems with my phone but i rooted it after about a week. I have to say that the custom rooms are buttery smooth. You have so much more flexibility and it just creates for a much much better user experience. The stock was choppy, not as smooth, and was not very customizable. so i would say if you intend to put custom roms on it, this phone is perfect. if you want to keep it stock then i would go for the galaxy s2.
Every phone will have its issues. If its free, sure get it. If u got the dough to spare then go for the s2
the funny thing is i ask myself the same question when i bought mine your answer well i would buy it again i have had no issues im running a quadrant with phoneixblood rom trinity 15 kernal ext 4 at 6120 my battery last all day with moderate use with juice defender i think you would be totally happy with it its so simple to root like 5 minutes several very good roms for phone cyanogenmod eaglesblood phoneixblood miui you wont be dissapointed if you get it and you need help rooting flashing or anything just inbox me on here i gladly help in any way
Coming from someone that still has a release day phone, the only issues the stock phone ever gave me was stone random lockups, like 10 in the 2 months i had it stock. And for me that issue was fixed completely fixed with a flash to cyanogen mod. I'm really happy with this phone, and i honestly would buy it again even with the original $200 price tag.
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I had a lot of issues with this phone stock but once i rooted and did all the stuff to it its running fine now.
I got my phone about a month ago. And yes, those lock ups or screen of deaths occurred a couple times in a few days. Rooted it and flashed a different rom/kernel and now it works wonderful. I believe it is the stock kernel that causes the issues.
My friend had this phone before and he hated it because of all the issues. He then went on to get another phone and told me not to waste my time.... It's unfortunate he didn't read up about rooting the device. This phone has awesome specs, and for the price of $100 that I got it for, I wanted to give it a try.
No problems for this phone whatsoever. Its a good phone I'd say.
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thanks for the comments, you have made up my mind. upgrading from a optimist t to the g2x in 3 days (when my tax return comes in) already downloaded all the rom's i'm going to flash....